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#441 User is offline   Itwęs Nom 

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 01:59 PM

View PostSiergiej, on 21 February 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 21 February 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

View PostSiergiej, on 21 February 2017 - 01:16 PM, said:

View PostMentalist, on 21 February 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

Something about Mess is rubbing me the wrong way in all this. Busy this morning, but in 2-4 hours I should be back in the office and have some time to try to figure out what.

Agreed. I pointed out before that his eagerness to jump in every time Blend came back to his crusade but waiting a long time to put a vote behind this looks spooky.

Also, it doesn't look like anyone is considering Blend for scum. Is it because we just collectively assumed that he is more likely to be a madman than a killer?


There was a short discussion about that yesterday, missed it?



I vaguely recall someone suggesting that Blend is possibly just an honest townie who happens to be very useful to scum - a train of thought I'm tentatively accepting. If there was more, I didn't notice. Will look for it in the evening when I have more time.


What about a certain vote?
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 02:00 PM

View PostAndorion, on 21 February 2017 - 01:20 PM, said:

View PostAndorion, on 21 February 2017 - 05:47 AM, said:

Practically every vote on Khell falls into the OMGUK category (OMG U R Khell!!!!)

I am not convinced.

View PostMessremb, on 20 February 2017 - 09:15 PM, said:

Since we're getting to a more serious state of play than the earlier shenanigans;

Tatts. Normally he's all over thread getting reactions from people. My sense of him this game has been that he's not been looking at people which strikes me as odd. What do other people think?


Mess makes a point I was considering myself. Tatts should be doing what Blend and JPK are doing, but he isn't.

Interesting.



View PostTattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 09:47 AM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 21 February 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 09:25 AM, said:

I am caught up. Tattersail is now Live.

Logical choice indicates I should vote for JPK, (including that post by Andorion)


How does Andos post support that choice?


That post by Ando is so off, he is agreeing with what Mess is saying about my approach yet chooses two examples that are totally the opposite, I can only conclude that he is signalling.


I meant I expect you to be all over the thread making cases with very flimsy basis It is Day 1 after all.


I have been all over the thread though and have voted 4 people so far. That is not what I am getting at and you know it. It doesn't matter, if one of those gets lynched and CF's scum then it isn't too far a stretch to come back and highlight that post.
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:02 PM

It has been ages since we have seen a split thread like this, and it is quiet now, people just waiting until day two?
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:16 PM

Nope Tatts, just busy. I'm about to go in to work and won't be available for a few hours.

At this point I see that my lynch is much more like than Khell's, and I'd like to finish this day. Look at Khell, look at Macros, look at Nom. My final thought that is unrelated is look at Mess.

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:22 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 21 February 2017 - 01:59 PM, said:

View PostSiergiej, on 21 February 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 21 February 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

View PostSiergiej, on 21 February 2017 - 01:16 PM, said:

View PostMentalist, on 21 February 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

Something about Mess is rubbing me the wrong way in all this. Busy this morning, but in 2-4 hours I should be back in the office and have some time to try to figure out what.

Agreed. I pointed out before that his eagerness to jump in every time Blend came back to his crusade but waiting a long time to put a vote behind this looks spooky.

Also, it doesn't look like anyone is considering Blend for scum. Is it because we just collectively assumed that he is more likely to be a madman than a killer?


There was a short discussion about that yesterday, missed it?



I vaguely recall someone suggesting that Blend is possibly just an honest townie who happens to be very useful to scum - a train of thought I'm tentatively accepting. If there was more, I didn't notice. Will look for it in the evening when I have more time.


What about a certain vote?


I had a real quick look but unless I'm missing something, there was only this:

View PostHoosierDaddy, on 20 February 2017 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 20 February 2017 - 08:19 PM, said:

View PostHoosierDaddy, on 20 February 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 20 February 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

remove vote

Vote blend


This tunnel vision is grating and is easy to play off day 2 if Khell comes back innocent.

Fine you think Khell is scum, what do you make of the rest of the players?


I see what you are getting at, but it'd be one hell of a ballsy play as scum to do this.


Doesn't seem that ballsy considering all the stuff that's been spouted today and how many people followed/ have been following the approach.


Sometimes it's good to be unfettered from the past. Plus it's only 3 people. I think Bubba is a little more fluid, but he can speak for himself.

That's literally 3 sentences. I'd like to hear what other people think about Blend.

Early on there was also Mac's vote for Blend but it was the same post where he said he likes Nickelback so I think we'll all agree it doesn't count.

@JPK: now, that is getting interesting. Even though I never liked suicidal tendencies, it looks genuine. Would there be interest in flipping to Nom?
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:22 PM

View PostSiergiej, on 20 February 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

I will not be surprised at all if Blend and Khell turn out to be paired killers just fucking with us.


Well, you're half right, cause Khell is scum and should be lynched.

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:24 PM

View PostAndorion, on 21 February 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:

So Tatts is finally here.

Good. That barrage of posts by him actually makes me happy, including the silly one about me signalling.

I agree with Macros. Going after Khell because he is Khell makes no sense.

Frankly it looks like a soft lynch option for JPK on Day 1. Khell is always controversial, and a lynch train on him, plus all the confusion in this super-high posting day 1 will I think totally confuse Day 2. Or that's what scum is hoping for.


I don't disagree. Khell has had no choice but to play this way and as I stated earlier, he can't really defend his mere existence in the game.

My rationale is still that we need to break up this clusterfuck. However, I'm willing to swing and hope the more, intractable players come around.

We'll see.
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:24 PM

Oh and I'll remove for now, because we have a lot of time to reconsider. Right now I'm okay with lynches in this order: Nom > JPK> Mess > Khell. If there's no movement towards Nom, I'll put my vote back when I come back from work.

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:26 PM

Sierg, I'd be willing. I'm not as solid on him though. I suspect that he's town and falling for his habit of seeing me as scum no matter what I do.
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:27 PM

Uh, sorry for spam. To get the ball rolling:

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:28 PM

View PostJPK, on 21 February 2017 - 03:16 PM, said:

Nope Tatts, just busy. I'm about to go in to work and won't be available for a few hours.

At this point I see that my lynch is much more like than Khell's, and I'd like to finish this day. Look at Khell, look at Macros, look at Nom. My final thought that is unrelated is look at Mess.

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:30 PM

The self vote is interesting and does make even me waver (slightly) on JPK. However, I'm not really seeing the Nom suspicion right now. I'll read back.
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:32 PM

View PostMacros, on 21 February 2017 - 09:41 AM, said:

morning.

Im going to say something massively contraversial.

I feel sorry for Khell, he can't do anything without being screamed at and jumped on, why? because he has the temerity to be a good player? to have the sheer gall to win some games as a killer? heaven forfend, the man played mafia! how dare he!

how often are we hamstrung by bad town play (myself very much included here) most times scum win because we fuck up.

Tatts says his logical vote is JPK, the says he wants to lynch khell just because. keep your grudges until you are a killer. and shoot them in the face.

Town play is trying to make logical moves to benefit us all. Not crying, B b b b but khells so sneaky he set me up for a fall one time he was a killer.
so the fuck what, if that's the case everyone here is probably candidate for a petty vengeance lynch. unless you are copping a direct correlation between a players actions in this game, and how they played in another game, the past is fucking irrelevant.

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:37 PM

Okay, so a few of things:

1) The self vote is ridiculous - we still have quite a bit of time in the day if I'm not mistaken.
2) The resistance to the Khell lynch is very telling. At this point, if the Khell lynch doesn't go through, we are going to be spending Day 2 talking about how you all defended him.
3) Tatts' play IS suspicious. First he was defending Khell, then he was agreeing with me, then he was voting alongside Khell. Perhaps Khell's scum partner?
4) Scum love lists, so I must be scum. Fools.
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:40 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

I have been all over the thread though and have voted 4 people so far. That is not what I am getting at and you know it. It doesn't matter, if one of those gets lynched and CF's scum then it isn't too far a stretch to come back and highlight that post.


Like seriously - "I've voted 4 different people, doesn't that make me super townie?!"

Laying it on a little thick don't you think?
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:42 PM

Blend, you are making me question if there's a secret Joker role.
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:44 PM

View PostSiergiej, on 21 February 2017 - 03:22 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 21 February 2017 - 01:59 PM, said:

View PostSiergiej, on 21 February 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 21 February 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

View PostSiergiej, on 21 February 2017 - 01:16 PM, said:

View PostMentalist, on 21 February 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

Something about Mess is rubbing me the wrong way in all this. Busy this morning, but in 2-4 hours I should be back in the office and have some time to try to figure out what.

Agreed. I pointed out before that his eagerness to jump in every time Blend came back to his crusade but waiting a long time to put a vote behind this looks spooky.

Also, it doesn't look like anyone is considering Blend for scum. Is it because we just collectively assumed that he is more likely to be a madman than a killer?


There was a short discussion about that yesterday, missed it?



I vaguely recall someone suggesting that Blend is possibly just an honest townie who happens to be very useful to scum - a train of thought I'm tentatively accepting. If there was more, I didn't notice. Will look for it in the evening when I have more time.


What about a certain vote?


I had a real quick look but unless I'm missing something, there was only this:

View PostHoosierDaddy, on 20 February 2017 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 20 February 2017 - 08:19 PM, said:

View PostHoosierDaddy, on 20 February 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 20 February 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

remove vote

Vote blend


This tunnel vision is grating and is easy to play off day 2 if Khell comes back innocent.

Fine you think Khell is scum, what do you make of the rest of the players?


I see what you are getting at, but it'd be one hell of a ballsy play as scum to do this.


Doesn't seem that ballsy considering all the stuff that's been spouted today and how many people followed/ have been following the approach.


Sometimes it's good to be unfettered from the past. Plus it's only 3 people. I think Bubba is a little more fluid, but he can speak for himself.

That's literally 3 sentences. I'd like to hear what other people think about Blend.

Early on there was also Mac's vote for Blend but it was the same post where he said he likes Nickelback so I think we'll all agree it doesn't count.

@JPK: now, that is getting interesting. Even though I never liked suicidal tendencies, it looks genuine. Would there be interest in flipping to Nom?

Why Nom all of a sudden?
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:46 PM

View PostHoosierDaddy, on 21 February 2017 - 03:42 PM, said:

Blend, you are making me question if there's a secret Joker role.


Oh my, you think Macros is pissy about how I'm playing the game, you should see the hissy fit he'd take if he found out there was a secret role!

Alas no, I simply created a situation where not lynching Khell is stupid. If you don't lynch Khell, this day will just get relived, over and over again. The thread is pretty evenly split down the middle now, with a couple people trying to "ride the fence" without making any mistakes. I think reactions to everything today have been very telling, and I think that the fact that the thread is so evenly split is pretty telling as well.
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:47 PM

View PostMentalist, on 21 February 2017 - 03:44 PM, said:

Why Nom all of a sudden?


Yeah - where did the idea of a Nom lynch come from?
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:50 PM

Looking at the vote recap I have Bubba as a possible symp and JPK and HD possible partners.
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