[Ultama]

Ultama, on 19 January 2017 - 06:02 PM, said:

Telas, on 19 January 2017 - 05:42 PM, said:

Ultama, on 19 January 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

Telas, on 19 January 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

One thing that baffles me is why the fuck you're still alive, Kas, given everyone and their dog spent 2 days CI-ing you.

Either you've played us all with that Day 1 vote, or Ultama is trying to fuck with my head (and it's working)

I've given that a bit of thought as well. The only reason I think you've let him live is meta. He has a recent history of picking the wrong side when it comes down to him on dday at this point. Given that both Fandy and Omtose had written me of as likely town going into today with me and Kas here gives you the best odds of scraping through with the win.

Also, If Kas has been the killer all along he deserves the win. He's been doing a spot-on impression of Mr. Clean.

Pfft, if was scum, I'd be convincing you to vote off Fandy right now.

My real question about you would have been why you were so cozy with Omtose? But your voting and posting pattern is all over the place, for, I suspect, similar RL reasons as me.

I'm feeling like I'm missing smth here, with sierg's advertised "twist"

The only day I was really "cozy" with Omtose was day 2. The issue I'd started
out with him on that day was the complete non-existence and participation after commenting that he was embarrassed wed let it slide on day 1 and would be back on day 2. Now, Day 2 was a complete clusterfuck for any of us to try to unravel, and when I placed my vote on him for that he appeared immediately and gave a well thought arguement that lacked the passion of those caught up in the middle of it.

Days 3 and 4 I voted against his known wishes and he only followed my day 3 vote on LOCK in order to hammer after voicing protest.

If anything, post day 1 I was aligning with Fandy after I alted her and had her as PI.

Fixed my error there.

[Ultama]

Here is the day 2 interactions with Omtose. I omitted his large analysis due to the size, and that's an easy one to spot when you go back looking for it.

Omtose, on 13 January 2017 - 04:17 AM, said:

Ultama, on 13 January 2017 - 04:06 AM, said:

The more I've about it today I've become less and less convinced that Fandy is scum. Yes she hammered Kesso, but that isn't enough for me today. Not when there is another huge question mark floating around this thread in the form of Telas. That play at EOD was bad enough even he admitted he needed lynched to clear that sit up. Also, Omtose where the fuck are you?

On thread the entirety of today, waiting for someone to notice that I only have two posts in almost 60 hours.Thanks for noticing.

Ultama, on 13 January 2017 - 04:20 AM, said:

In fact I think it might be a solid idea to shed Omtose today. So far he has contributed nothing to town. I think there is a chance that he could be the scum partner hiding. If nothing else it gives us more time to chew over the clusterfuck of finger pointing that has been happening between those of us actually around and participating. Vote Omtose

Omtose, on 13 January 2017 - 04:44 AM, said:

Ultama, on 13 January 2017 - 04:42 AM, said:

Omtose, on 13 January 2017 - 04:31 AM, said:

Ultama, on 13 January 2017 - 04:20 AM, said:

In fact I think it might be a solid idea to shed Omtose today. So far he has contributed nothing to town. I think there is a chance that he could be the scum partner hiding. If nothing else it gives us more time to chew over the clusterfuck of finger pointing that has been happening between those of us actually around and participating. Vote Omtose

That's actually a great idea!

Unless of course you have anything to add? You've been sitting out so far so you should have an outside view of this clusterfuck.

Actually I'm going over the thread right now and trying to figure out what the hell is going on. I gotta admit it feels like a novel written by a delusional paranoid.

Ultama, on 13 January 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

Thanks Omtose. Going into today's vote I've really been caught up on the Telas/Fandy/Serc triad. Your analysis really put the main issue I'd been having with Telas into a new light. I was hung up on his having removed from a viable train to go with something seemingly off the cuff and then failing to hammer after he claimed he would. Your analysis as to why his action points him away from being scum helped a lot there. That leaves me with the Fandy/Serc issue. After mulling it over, I'm leaning Serc. His behaviors over day one and two have been divisive towards town causing splits between several players, his place in the lynch was questionable, and I'm still paranoid about how buddy-buddy he was with me day 1.Remove voteVote Serc

[Ultama]

They're was little from either myself or Omtose day 3 but this is the core of it.

Ultama, on 17 January 2017 - 03:04 AM, said:

I'm in a similar spot to yours Telas. It's a real clusterfuck between them. After some time thinking it over, I'm leaning Lock though. Fandy looks so unbelievably scummy that it would take brass balls to pull what she has been doing as scum. I also have a habit of looking at her as scum every game though. Lock has been playing it much more safely and has been missing for a large amount of the game. The no nk due to not bring around to submit provisionals theory fits him to a t as well. Finally, if we don't lynch him, we're doomed to keep coming back to this point due to Telas' Eiffel Tower hardon.Finally, gut. Just gut.Vote Lock

Omtose, on 17 January 2017 - 03:15 AM, said:

That's Lock at L-1.I would personally prefer a Fanderay lynch, for reasons I set out yesterday and due to the fact that she has not done anything that has changed my mind. But I think we have around 1 hour or less left, so I'm going to hammer Vote Lock

[Telas]

Ultama, on 11 January 2017 - 09:38 PM, said:

Now, looking back through I'm not liking Fandy one bit. He started the Kama Sutra spam and contributed the following:

Fanderay, on 10 January 2017 - 05:45 PM, said:

sloppy seconds!

Fanderay, on 10 January 2017 - 06:34 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 10 January 2017 - 06:05 PM, said:

Lock, on 10 January 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

Third! I enjoy how we have been using a bunch of alts we haven't seen much of in a while!

Fande on the other hand apparently prefers the ones more used recently

Yeah... ST did some pretty kinky shit while he was wearing this alt...

Fanderay, on 10 January 2017 - 07:40 PM, said:

Hey, we can play kamasutra pictionary!

Fanderay, on 10 January 2017 - 11:22 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 10 January 2017 - 09:49 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 10 January 2017 - 07:41 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 10 January 2017 - 07:40 PM, said:

Hey, we can play kamasutra pictionary!

I like that, you go first.

Well...???

Sorry I got distracted with research. You know, there are a lot of them out there on the internet, and I didn't think I could draw some of them. Nor did I want to offend Starling's sensibilities.

Fanderay, on 10 January 2017 - 11:26 PM, said:

Oh it's a position.

Fanderay, on 11 January 2017 - 12:24 AM, said:

Okaros, on 11 January 2017 - 12:11 AM, said:

Standing tiger, hidden grass snake?

close...

Fanderay, on 11 January 2017 - 02:02 AM, said:

nope

Fanderay, on 11 January 2017 - 05:21 PM, said:

Maybe this tiger is better... pictionary2.png

Fanderay, on 11 January 2017 - 05:23 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 11 January 2017 - 07:32 AM, said:

I'm gonna show a move I call crouching Tiger Hidden penis.Anyone every see that movie? I really liked it with all the flying and stuff.Morning.Pretty weak way to get a first joke vote out igmeoy Kesso.So bar some more kamasutra b's I've missed sweet FA on my sleep.

closer...

Fanderay, on 11 January 2017 - 05:26 PM, said:

I agree with whomever said that people are being too cagey so far this game. Based on the limited number of posts I have nothing on a day 1 case.

After all of that he drops this little gem:

Fanderay, on 11 January 2017 - 07:27 PM, said:

Fanderay 10
Gamelon 9
Kessobahn 7
Path-Shaper 5
Okaros 4
Kaschan 3
Ultama 3
Lock 3
Telas 2
Serc 1
Omtose 1

Seriously? There's not enough to get a read here. Out of such slim pickings, why does Kaschan stand out?

Part1 of your Day 1 case

[Telas]

Ultama, on 11 January 2017 - 09:41 PM, said:

Directly after that he goes on to attack both me and Lock for the lack of content in our posts thus far.

Fanderay, on 11 January 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Yo diggity, checking in.

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 09:58 PM, said:

Lock, on 10 January 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Yo diggity

I like the way you work it.

Ah, close sir. However the good Dr. Dre was "No Diggity". However, you'll never find me bitching about someone bringing up Dre.

Ultama, on 11 January 2017 - 04:22 PM, said:

Lock, on 11 January 2017 - 02:26 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 09:58 PM, said:

Lock, on 10 January 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Yo diggity

I like the way you work it.

Ah, close sir. However the good Dr. Dre was "No Diggity". However, you'll never find me bitching about someone bringing up Dre.

Uhm, Dr. Dre did not sing No Diggity, it was Blackstreet, Dr. Dre just rapped in it!

I... I knew that. I swear. Frankly, I always had it in my mind as Dre featuring Blackstreet because I never really cared that much about Blackstreet whereas Dre is Dre. My point still stands.

Nothing to see here...

Fanderay, on 11 January 2017 - 07:30 PM, said:

Lock, on 10 January 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

Third! I enjoy how we have been using a bunch of alts we haven't seen much of in a while!

Lock, on 10 January 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Yo diggity

I like the way you work it.

Lock, on 11 January 2017 - 02:26 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 09:58 PM, said:

Lock, on 10 January 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 January 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Yo diggity

I like the way you work it.

Ah, close sir. However the good Dr. Dre was "No Diggity". However, you'll never find me bitching about someone bringing up Dre.

Uhm, Dr. Dre did not sing No Diggity, it was Blackstreet, Dr. Dre just rapped in it!

Another middling player...

With that in mind, and following on Serc's thought to look at the spammers for scum I think I'm going to place my vote here. It's really the only stand-out scummy thing I've seen so far in the game.

Vote Fanderay

Part2

[Ultama]

Telas, on 19 January 2017 - 06:07 PM, said:

If I believe you, that leaves me to conclude that our good friend Kas somehow lucked out with that Day 1 train.

How likely is that?

I don't think it is. I think you got lucky with Omtose PIing you after your cute little Kesso lynch stunt by misreading it in your favor and that you've been coating by ever since.

[Telas]

Kaschan, on 11 January 2017 - 10:00 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 10 January 2017 - 07:22 PM, said:

Someone mention kamasutra? Please ellaborate further...

whilst Fanderay started the pictionary stuff, it was Kesso who technically started the Karmasutra back and forth by immediately looking to start an alternative to dragon secks. First post of the game, looking to be fun bobby and thus is able to spin out a few more posts and pad his post count harmlessly.

Also note (and this is not OMGUS)

Kessobahn, on 10 January 2017 - 10:32 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 10 January 2017 - 10:06 PM, said:

I'm for bed, wake me up if anything happens.

or don't.

see if I care

Wake up!

vote kaschan

Someone voted for you.

yes its a tongue in cheek remark but its a throwaway vote that make it look like at least jokey contribution without having to commit to anything.

and then jumps for a low poster hunt with this

Kessobahn, on 11 January 2017 - 04:59 PM, said:

Let's hear something from the lower end of the table shall we.

Vote Omtose

Is it just me, or is that particular alt always at the bottom of the pile?

and vanishes.
but its another vote than can easily be tossed away as its an alt meta vote.

vote Kessobahn

come out and speak to us little man

And then Kas does this.

He could have followed your case on Fandy, since you were shifting focus away from Kesso.

Instead he straight up puts him in the line of fire.

Now, was this distancing taken too far? Or was it genuine?

[Kaschan]

home form work. reading up

[Telas]

Ultama, on 19 January 2017 - 06:37 PM, said:

Telas, on 19 January 2017 - 06:07 PM, said:

If I believe you, that leaves me to conclude that our good friend Kas somehow lucked out with that Day 1 train.

How likely is that?

I don't think it is. I think you got lucky with Omtose PIing you after your cute little Kesso lynch stunt by misreading it in your favor and that you've been coating by ever since.

Funny you'd say this. Between the Lock and Omtose lynches you've had 2 posts (including the hammer), while I had 5.

If I was "coasting", you were a non-entity,

[Kaschan]

Telas, on 19 January 2017 - 05:42 PM, said:

Ultama, on 19 January 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

Telas, on 19 January 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

One thing that baffles me is why the fuck you're still alive, Kas, given everyone and their dog spent 2 days CI-ing you.

Either you've played us all with that Day 1 vote, or Ultama is trying to fuck with my head (and it's working)

I've given that a bit of thought as well. The only reason I think you've let him live is meta. He has a recent history of picking the wrong side when it comes down to him on dday at this point. Given that both Fandy and Omtose had written me of as likely town going into today with me and Kas here gives you the best odds of scraping through with the win.

Also, If Kas has been the killer all along he deserves the win. He's been doing a spot-on impression of Mr. Clean.

Pfft, if was scum, I'd be convincing you to vote off Fandy right now.

My real question about you would have been why you were so cozy with Omtose? But your voting and posting pattern is all over the place, for, I suspect, similar RL reasons as me.

I'm feeling like I'm missing smth here, with sierg's advertised "twist"

this post has given me something of an epiphany.

but first, to address Telas; query on me, I have no idea why I am still alive (well I think I do now) I assumed the N2 without a kill was a healer so didn't reference it at all, and assumed that someone had taken a shot at me and then decided not to try again. But since neither you nor ultama has come out and claimed healer this can't be the case.


now onto my WIFOM meta whatever laden Epiphany.

You would have struggled to convince Ultama to lynch Fanderay I think, given that their last few posts yesterday were intimating that they didn't think Fandy was scummy, in fact they say
"I know that this is crazy thinking, but I'm leaning towards Fandy bring town and either Telas or Omtose being the other killer.<br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 251, 252);">I'll dig into the pair of them later tonight since I'm working for the next several hours. "


I also had said I wouldn't consider Fandy likely scum as they were too scummy. I had suggested yesterday I thought we were down to Ultama/Omtose.


Given my history and the players left; me and ultama facing off when I had said I struggled with your play as being scum due to the aggressive lock hunt, is much more appealing than Fandy and ultama facing off and likely voting for you.


WIFOM to the hilt but its what jumped into my head when I read that post.
will be about for a few hours this evening, doing work on the laptop so will be trying to skim over both players again to see what Ive missed

[Telas]

Both of you were the least lynchable in my eyes, so I would not keep you around fwiw.

Anyhow, I'm struggling to see you as scum with the context of that Kesso vote. So it seems it'll come down to which of us you believe more.

[Kaschan]

Why do I get the feeling that one of you is just hovering over the keyboard hammering F5 waiting for me to drop a vote and praying its on the other?

I could vote Ultama based on my gut feeling, or vote Telas on my WIFOM trip. both methods have let me down badly in the past to be fair.

I think Telas might be on to something with ultamas play on day one regarding the fanderay vote so I'm going back to look at it in its original context to see it better

[Kaschan]

Ultama, on 12 January 2017 - 04:22 AM, said:

Anyways, I'll follow through on what I said I'd do earlier and hop to Kesso. I don't think that this is the right lynch for today, but with Telas jumping ship I think it's the only vote that still possible for today. My vote should put Kesso at L-2.

Remove Vote

Vote Kessobahn

Ultama's vote switch here wasn't forced, sure he had said he would switch but could easily have campaigned for a fanderay vote. had he been the one to push him to L-1 or the hammer, both position where the lynch was looking like a cert, I would have been much more suspicious but in reality its Ultama's vote that tips the wagon down the hill and pushes the momentum on.

Whilst around the same time was Telas' switcharoo to Lock. which had the potential to just dead lock the whole thing. I had viewed this as being an anti kesso move as it made the fandy lynch less likely, but its ultamas actions that started the final vote switch for serc and thus let Fandy hammer.



fuck it, chasing the WIFOM dragon

vote Telas

[Ultama]

Thank you Kas.

I'm actually town

Vote Telas

[Kaschan]

please dont be fucking with me Ultama.

that would not be nice

[Kaschan]

oh god, the insta vote just makes me think you were the one sitting hammering f5

[Itwæs Nom]

It is some fucking day with some fucking time remaining.

Telas has been fucking lynched, he was Mentalist and fucking RI.

Big hearty fuck congratulations to Macros and Tattersail, the fucking Evil twins!

Ultama, on 19 January 2017 - 07:59 PM, said:

Fuck you Kas.

I'm actually town

Vote Telas

FTFY.

Really though... well played scum!

SH is earth

[Kaschan]

VICTORY IS MINE!

[Macros]

oh man can't wait to read spoiler heaven

[Mentalist]

Sigh. I told you, JPK...