Alright, a few things that stand out to me, and I’m sure I’m not the first to notice them, but still…
Tattersail_, on 19 September 2016 - 02:07 PM, said:
I'm just a humble guard, hoping the museum will just, come to life of a night.
Others have definitely mentioned that it’s an odd slip by Tatts. That being said, I doubt it’s anything more than a poor choice of words on Tatts’ part. Even if it were deliberate, he’d be a symp at best, I’d say. Doesn’t make sense for a killer to draw attention to themselves in any deliberate way. If he IS a symp, best to keep him alive and keep an eye on him and what he does as it may point us at scum inadvertently.
The thing I don’t like about it is this:
Tattersail_, on 19 September 2016 - 09:33 PM, said:
Well I could be a guard. Even if I am not, it creates a safer place if there actually is a guard. Killers can leave me around at their own peril but town should definitely not lynch me. That would be all kinds of crazy!
Scum WOULD say that, no? I’m not saying we definitely SHOULD lynch Tatts, just that we shouldn’t take it for granted that he’s town… If Tatts IS a guard, he deserves to be lynched for such an obvious screw up. If he is a symp, best we keep him alive and watch his moves. If he’s a killer, he deserves to be lynched. That’s 2 out of 3 scenarios where Tatts should be lynched for that comment alone…
Andorion, on 20 September 2016 - 03:30 AM, said:
I don't think Khell would be scum in altless, but that is never a safe assumption to make
Assumptions like the above are the kind of assumptions that lose games… However, this:
Andorion, on 20 September 2016 - 05:36 AM, said:
I would be very very hesitant about following Khell into a supposedly symp lynch this early.
Is true about any symp case made prior to potential D-Day. If we think we know who the symp is, best to keep him or her around to ensure that they can try to lead us in a merry circle. The more information they put on thread, the better chance we have to try to figure out who they are trying to distract us from, thus leading us to scum. That’s the theory anyway...
This post here:
Lady Bliss, on 20 September 2016 - 12:37 PM, said:
Back and just finished a reread. This has to be the scummiest post so far:
Khellendros, on 20 September 2016 - 10:45 AM, said:
This is the most sensible post so far, even if it does point out the pointlessness in currently voting for Bliss (boo!). Yes, I believe Bliss will CF RI (read: symp), which at this stage doesn't help us much (I mean, other than getting rid of a scum, but we wouldn't know for sure blah blah - well, I'll know for sure, because I'm sure, and all the rest of you have to do is trust me on that...what?).
Khell is certain I'll cf RI, and admits it won't help much but says you should vote for me anyway? Khell's declaration comes hard on the tail of Tatts gettimg to 3 votes. I'm tempted to keep my vote on Tatts for that reason, but I would consider switching to Khell.
Bugs me quite a bit. Lady B is being pretty disingenuous – she highlights the part of Khell’s message where he says he ‘believes’ that Bliss will CF as RI, then goes right on to say that ‘Khell is certain’ she’ll CF as RI. Blatant disregard for what she has JUST pointed out was actually said… Kind of weird methinks.
And then there are posts like this:
Khellendros, on 20 September 2016 - 02:40 PM, said:
But until I see something better, my vote remains.
This really grinds my gears. “Until I see something better” is a classic way for scum to seem non-threatening. ‘Listen guys, I know my case fucking sucks, but I don’t want to put more work into this, so I’m going to stick to my guns cause it looks less scummy if I don’t just hop around all willy nilly. So the onus is now on you to give me some reason to hop this train!’ Ick.
Khellendros, on 20 September 2016 - 03:03 PM, said:
Why is saying Bliss will CF RI so controversial? If I already before that said that I believe that she is a symp, then surely that follows???
I am voting for her because I think she is scum. Again, I'm not sure what is controversial about that. In fact, I find it quite odd that people are voicing confusion about this.
Come on Khell, really? You know as well as anyone on here that voting for a symp early in the game is not only a waste of time, but also a waste of information. If you truly believe that Lady B is a symp, you should be moving on to trying to figure out who she’s symping. A symp lynch gives us absolutely no information.
Of course, then we have the issue that a lot of the fluff around what Khell is saying absolutely makes sense. It’s just a few triggers here and there that really irk me, and Khell should know better.
Here’s another post that bugs me:
Tattersail_, on 20 September 2016 - 04:14 PM, said:
My play with my early game is to draw the night kill because the killers cannot be sure whether I am lying or telling the truth.
That’s actually a smart thing to do early game if you’re not roled town. The fact that you’ve said that’s what you want to do is the reason I am suspicious of it. Now you’ve given the killers an excellent reason NOT to kill you. If they don’t, it leaves a giant soggy puddle of WIFOM for all of us to wade through. “Did they leave him alive so we’d think he was lying scum and should lynch him? Is he still alive because he’s scum and trying to be clever?”
Either way I believe that something like the above just warrants a lynch to prevent the amount of times we’ll have to go over this case again over the next couple of game days.
So yeah, after all that, I’d be comfortable with a Khell lynch, but I think I’d much prefer a Tatts lynch. I think the Bliss thing is just some misdirection by a clever Khell, so I’m not really interested in voting for her. None of the other cases made today have really stood out to me, though I’ll certainly be keeping an eye on a couple of people!
On that note...
vote Tatts