[Mentalist]

Apt, on 13 June 2016 - 06:49 PM, said:

Definitely a lot of great looking titles at the conference.

This is the official pre-liminary list of games that will also be available on Win10:


Forza Horizon 3
Gears of War 4
Halo Wars 2
ReCore
Scalebound
Sea of Thieves
State of Decay 2
We Happy Few

I am at the same time thrilled and disappointed by the list. I just do not understand why Microsoft keeps producing more and better looking exclusives than Sony, only for them to port them to PC. For me personally it's great, I don't have to buy their console, but in terms of convincing new buyers to adopt the X-box it's like pouring money down the drain. Such a confusing business strategy. Very consumer friendly (sort of) but I want a stronger console war.

Most excited about Forza Horizons 3. I have gotten really interested in driving games the past couple of years but there's just not that many non-simulation driving games on PC. I will definitely be buying FH3 eventually.

M$oft didn't win over the business sector in Win 10 adoption. So instead they're gonna try to hit the gamer market. Seeing a few previously XBone exclusives make their way to Win 10 might be enough to get me to adopt Win 10 as a secondary OS purely for their games (i'll keep my Win 7 as a primary for Steam, GOG and pretty much everything else).

(I had to take a prolonged break in E3 watching. Paused the livestream on the Scalebound demo. WANT!!! I'll finish wrappin up my thoughts after I get home and sit down to work, with E3 in the background.)

[Obdigore]

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M$oft didn't win over the business sector in Win 10 adoption.

What are you talking about? Business take a while to verify all their in house software runs on new OS'es. Acting like every business with MS desktops isn't preparing to, or in the middle of, migrating to Win10 is just right off.

Everyone I know in the field who works on this stuff has either already done it or is getting ready to do it.

[LinearPhilosopher]

Obdigore, on 13 June 2016 - 10:33 PM, said:

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M$oft didn't win over the business sector in Win 10 adoption.

What are you talking about? Business take a while to verify all their in house software runs on new OS'es. Acting like every business with MS desktops isn't preparing to, or in the middle of, migrating to Win10 is just right off.

Everyone I know in the field who works on this stuff has either already done it or is getting ready to do it.

Yeah pretty much every company is likely in the middle of doing it. But theres a lenghty testing period (assuming your company's IT is being done right)

[Silencer]

LinearPhilosopher, on 14 June 2016 - 01:03 AM, said:

Obdigore, on 13 June 2016 - 10:33 PM, said:

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M$oft didn't win over the business sector in Win 10 adoption.

What are you talking about? Business take a while to verify all their in house software runs on new OS'es. Acting like every business with MS desktops isn't preparing to, or in the middle of, migrating to Win10 is just right off.

Everyone I know in the field who works on this stuff has either already done it or is getting ready to do it.

Yeah pretty much every company is likely in the middle of doing it. But theres a lenghty testing period (assuming your company's IT is being done right)

Unless your company is behind on versions and the support window is closing rapidly.

[Stalker]

Just watched through the Microsoft conference. Games, games, games, hardware. No true exclusives but I don't care if the games are also on windows 10, as part of the ecosystem.

I liked the look of Sea of Thieves, Gwent (!), We Happy Few, Forza, some other too. Camera work sucked throughout the event though. I don't care what's happening on stage, I just want to see the games.

The Slim was nice and had some cool features like 2 TB hard drive and integrated power brick, but not enough to make me buy one (unlike 360 elite) when Scorpio has been announced for next year. That should be cool. Interesting that my best of their press conference that last 2 years has been hardware - elite controller (amazing) last year and Scorpio this year.

[Silencer]

Stalker, on 14 June 2016 - 01:33 AM, said:

Just watched through the Microsoft conference. Games, games, games, hardware. No true exclusives but I don't care if the games are also on windows 10, as part of the ecosystem.

I liked the look of Sea of Thieves, Gwent (!), We Happy Few, Forza, some other too. Camera work sucked throughout the event though. I don't care what's happening on stage, I just want to see the games.

The Slim was nice and had some cool features like 2 TB hard drive and integrated power brick, but not enough to make me buy one (unlike 360 elite) when Scorpio has been announced for next year. That should be cool. Interesting that my best of their press conference that last 2 years has been hardware - elite controller (amazing) last year and Scorpio this year.

Yeah. Anyone who is excited instead of pissed off by the 2Tb on the slim...go back to the release of the original One and realise that this should have been standard back then.
Then also realise how much of the commentary from that still holds today and is only validated by Microsoft releasing new hardware so soon. Bleh.

[Stalker]

It's interesting though. Probably part of the whole "eliminating boundaries / games for all" rhetoric they were going on about. Create a low cost of entry for people who don't care what the console's specs are and scale up from there.

$299 for slim / regular Xbox one with 500gb

$399 for 1 TB

$499 with kinect (why was I forced to buy one initially?!)

$599 Scorpio?

[LinearPhilosopher]

Silencer, on 14 June 2016 - 01:32 AM, said:

LinearPhilosopher, on 14 June 2016 - 01:03 AM, said:

Obdigore, on 13 June 2016 - 10:33 PM, said:

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M$oft didn't win over the business sector in Win 10 adoption.

What are you talking about? Business take a while to verify all their in house software runs on new OS'es. Acting like every business with MS desktops isn't preparing to, or in the middle of, migrating to Win10 is just right off.

Everyone I know in the field who works on this stuff has either already done it or is getting ready to do it.

Yeah pretty much every company is likely in the middle of doing it. But theres a lenghty testing period (assuming your company's IT is being done right)

Unless your company is behind on versions and the support window is closing rapidly.

well the alternative is too simnply not upgrade at all. TD canada trust still runs windows XP and canadian tire's system is an OS from from the 70s. You can just keep running the same thing provided it works and doesn't crash.

[Mentalist]

Bethesda

QUake: ok, I missed its heyday, and i'm not an MP kind of guy, but hey, good for those who play it.

TES card game: yawn.
Skyrim legendary- eh. I still need to play Morrowind

Arkane's Prey- the shooting and enemies feel kinda similar to the orignal X-COM FPS. The FPS aesthetic feels kinda simlar to the original's screenshots. not getting a system shock vibe, but that's a good thing in this case, I think.

more things for Doom. fairly standard

More TES online stuff- MMO so yawn

Dishonored 2:
pretty and atmospheric setting

Gameplay- so much stabbing. Dust looks cool, but should probably make the PC take damage.

The time thing is a cool gimmick. though the set-up feels a bit Cradle-y

Overall, one new IP to look forward to with interest. And I really DO need to play Dishonored.

[Cause]

God of war! The cynic in me feels that was a very staged demo. Also what were we seeing? Open world? Rpg leveling mechanics?

Also announcing the Xbox one s and the Scorpio for One year later seems a wierd tactical blunder. Why would I buy now when a better one is out in a year

[Aptorian]

I thought Microsoft's conference was good and Bethesda's conference was excellent, but god damn that Sony conference was amazing. Just one rock solid reveal and demo after another.

Spoiler

God of War, Days Gone, The Last Guardian, Horizons, Detroit, Spiderman, Death Stranding, etc. I've been really disappointed in Sony's exclusive line up but it looks like they finally have a bunch of console sellers lined up. Then again at the end of the conference they revealed only one of their exclusives had a release date, and that date was set for 2017.

God of War looked phenomenal and surprisingly some how evolved. Like it took some of the best stuff from The Last of Us and Tomb Raider and used those games strengths to rethink what a God of War game could be. I have no idea what GOW will play like but it seems like the spectacle fighter aspect is taking a back seat for a much more personal story.

Days Gone looks great but unimaginative. I actually thought Bend had taken over the Last of Us franchise for a second. But then they make it about bounty hunting and zombies? I cannot describe how very tried of Zombies I am. For fucks sake just make the enemies mutants or aliens or demons instead. Anything else than fucking zombies. Have to admit though that the amount of zombies on screen and their animations was fascinating.

The Last Guardian looks older and more dated every time they show it. But it has a lot of atmosphere. They better god damn not kill the Dog Bird Monster at the end of the game. I will cry.

Glad to see another demo of Horizon. The hunting/analysis aspect is interesting. I assume they are borrowing somewhat from Monster Hunter.

Detroit looks very much like a Quantic Dream game. I love that they are leaning into the whole "choices matter and have series consequences" angle. Now I just wonder how big the game actually is? I hope it's more like Heavy Rain and less like Beyond. I imagine we will be following various androids through out the game like Heavy Rain. I certainly hope we get to see Kara again.

Excited for VR but since I don't even own a PS4 I can't really get that hyped about the games. Yet.

COD: Infinite War looks good. Not great. But fascinating from the perspective of "what is a COD game supposed to be?" kind of angle. I find the space combat cool but I do wonder what is going to become of that franchise.

I wonder if COD4 remaster will have all the multiplayer maps? If it does I might not be able to help myself. I might be forced to purchase the full package.

Happy to see Crash Bandicoot getting a remaster. I haven't played those games since the 90s. I hope it turns into a new game eventually.

Cannot get excited for another Lego game (even though I secretly adore them).

Very surprised to see Hideo Kojimas new game at the conference. Even if it was just a cinematic teaser. I figured it was years away. I love how up its own ass that trailer was. Really weird, really artistic and totally Kojima, warts and all. I kind of wonder if Death Stranding is actually a smaller game, like a Silent Hills thing and not the real

I CANNOT BELIEVE INSOMNIAC IS MAKING A SPIDERMAN GAME! This is fucking insane! Insane! My inner child was whooping with excitement when I saw that. I hope it is fully open world and I just get to swing around and punch the shit out of muggers in Central Park.

Gonna sit down and watch Nintendo's Tree house thing next.

[QuickTidal]

The Spiderman game looks hype...but the costume update in the trailer is possibly the worst Spidey costume I've ever seen. That big splotchy white spider is AW-FUL.

That said, I don't really care much about the costume...as the gameplay in Spiderman games is always what makes them sing. As long as the webslinging is intuitive...I'm in.

[champ]

Relevant to upthread, TESVI will be years away apparently, they are working on two new games equivalent in size to Skyrim/Fallout so don't have the time for it at the moment... which means they'll be working on it but keeping it secret for now.

Random thoughts:

I'm not an Xbox fan but still watched the conference, thought it was decent enough though the drilling home of cross purchase got annoying but...

Watching the Sony conference afterwards, Sony absolutely shown them how to do it. Probably one of the best in years.

God of War looks sooooo good, Open World it seems, a matured Kratos, I've played all the games and cannot wait for this.

Same goes for Horizon Dawn, everytime I see this it just looks better and better.

Is it just me or anyone else getting sick of zombies now, I see them in a game and just don't want to buy it, lost my interest.

I know I'll purchase PSVR but wait to see what games are out first to decide when to buy it.

As for Nintendo... god damn you Nintendo, I was lucky enough to skip Wii U, first console of theirs I haven't owned and dubious about the NX but it doesn't matter anymore... Zelda.... wow! Zelda-Skyrim but without the side quests, I'm in.

As an aside, that Pokemon section was so boring after the Zelda intro trailer, was like a twisted torture making you wait for more Zelda fix and onto that...

This game looks like gaming-crack, the open world aspect, start from nothing and salvage your weapons/equipment is a great new dynamic but in a way a return to the earlier Zeldas too. Apparently if you're an amazing gamer, it's that open world you could run straight for the final boss and attempt the end game. 12-14 times the size of Twilight Princess, this game will be huge. My only concern is that they give you enough to do in the world to keep it interesting but it's Nintendo, I have faith with their games and from what has been shown, it looks like so much fun.

I know i'll be buying this console purely for this game, cannot wait to see more.

[Mentalist]

Managed to watch Ubi conference tonight. Hrrm

The new IP is kind of a miss for me. I like the raw enthusiasm of the devs, but I got absolutely 0 interest in winter sports, so I don't relate to the theme at all.

Watch Dogs and South Park are 2 interesting IPS, but I still need to play the originals.

Ubi's tendency to make open-world games with frequent attempts to throw in multiplayer I have no interest in severely limits my ability to be interested in their games.
Wildlands might be interesting, but I'll probably be more interested in Boiling Point or Just Cause if I want a fix of Latin American drug barons stomping as opposed to this.

[Khellendros]

Apt, on 13 June 2016 - 07:36 PM, said:

Just remembered, there was no For Honor at Bethesda's conference. I was hoping for single player footage. I hope it doesn't die like Battlecry.

There was also no Crackdown 3 at Microsofts conference. I was hoping to play it this year but it looks like it was pushed to 2017. I need my orb gathering fix damn it!

Well, it's an Ubisoft game so unlikely to be at Bethesda's conference There was plenty of For Honor on show at Ubi's...and it managed to make me intrigued for the game in a way it totally failed to last year.


None of the new IPs blew me away this year, I have to say. No Horizon or Watch Dogs-like game this year where I was like, "I have to know more about this!" The best games seemed to be the ones we already knew plenty about, only they've all been delayed to 2017 when originally they were supposedly coming out this year

Probably the game I was most 'wow' about that I didn't know much about before was actually Legend of Zelda. Looks absolutely gorgeous and I like the tech angle they're going with for this one.

Most disappointing: Finding out what Sony Bend's game finally was. Yet another post-apocalyptic zombie game. Great. The gameplay felt underwhelming too. The 'sea of onrushing zombies' thing is only cool for like the first five seconds, and then it was basically like, 'sooo, they've increased the speed of the Dead Rising zombies?'

[Mentalist]

Well, there's the new Prey from Arkane. It's exciting to have that confirmed. The problems are:

1) at first brush it's not as cool a concept as Human Head's Prey 2 was.
1)a) people remember the legal nastiness between Zenimax and Human Head for the IP.
2) Arkane is going for a system shock-y vibe. But,
2)a) That's not original anymore, because Warren Spector I already working on System Shock 3.

[Mentalist]

Sony impressions:

God of War: winter edition. Umm, Skyrim edition?

Days Gone- Moar Zombie survival stuff? It feels a bit dated.

Oh hey, the epic of Last Guardian is ending- it has a release date.

Ok, horizon zero dawn still looks cool. Too bad it's an exclusive.

Android movie game-multi-variant adventure game? Cool, I guess?

Ooh-er, new Resident Evil.

VR... stuff... overload. Som of I looks cool. Too bad I don't care about VR

Kojima game- weird.

New Spidey looks interesting with a all the exploding and destruction. It's like Infamous, but Spider-man.

Daysgone gameplay- all that shooting strikes me as a waste of bullets when you should be running running F away back to the bike.

One thing I like about Sony is how laconic they can be. Sometimes it's literally "here, look at our games" they speak for themselves.

Overall, some pretty cool stuff.

[Khellendros]

Mentalist, on 16 June 2016 - 06:34 PM, said:

Well, there's the new Prey from Arkane. It's exciting to have that confirmed. The problems are:

1) at first brush it's not as cool a concept as Human Head's Prey 2 was.
1)a) people remember the legal nastiness between Zenimax and Human Head for the IP.
2) Arkane is going for a system shock-y vibe. But,
2)a) That's not original anymore, because Warren Spector I already working on System Shock 3.

That's what I forgot to write about in my previous post. I was really disappointed by that new reveal trailer for Prey. Obviously an entirely different game from Prey 2. But if you're doing that, then why not just have it as an entirely new IP? Is the name recognition for Prey really that powerful, after one game that sold and reviewed 'okay', that it had to be called that? I somehow doubt it. Ultimately it just seems a fuck you to Human Head to call this Prey as well.

As for the game itself, it looks like a mix of Alien: Isolation and Dead Space. There's no reason why it can't be 'good', but the original concept for Prey 2 was far more intriguing for me, and I'm sad that this finally means any hope of that being resurrected is now extinguished.

[Khellendros]

Oh, and Christopher Judge (Teal'c from Stargate) is the voice of Kratos. That's cool.

[Mentalist]

Khellendros, on 16 June 2016 - 10:05 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 16 June 2016 - 06:34 PM, said:

Well, there's the new Prey from Arkane. It's exciting to have that confirmed. The problems are:

1) at first brush it's not as cool a concept as Human Head's Prey 2 was.
1)a) people remember the legal nastiness between Zenimax and Human Head for the IP.
2) Arkane is going for a system shock-y vibe. But,
2)a) That's not original anymore, because Warren Spector I already working on System Shock 3.

That's what I forgot to write about in my previous post. I was really disappointed by that new reveal trailer for Prey. Obviously an entirely different game from Prey 2. But if you're doing that, then why not just have it as an entirely new IP? Is the name recognition for Prey really that powerful, after one game that sold and reviewed 'okay', that it had to be called that? I somehow doubt it. Ultimately it just seems a fuck you to Human Head to call this Prey as well.

As for the game itself, it looks like a mix of Alien: Isolation and Dead Space. There's no reason why it can't be 'good', but the original concept for Prey 2 was far more intriguing for me, and I'm sad that this finally means any hope of that being resurrected is now extinguished.

I want Human Head to change the name and Kickstart that space-bounty hunter game