Game thread 131.5 The List, the list
#681
Posted 29 April 2016 - 05:26 PM
There really isn't much content at all, is there?
Lets see if we can get him talking a bit
Vote A Demon Llama
Lets see if we can get him talking a bit
Vote A Demon Llama
#682
Posted 29 April 2016 - 05:33 PM
And with that, I am off for the night. Weekend break in a few hours?
#683
Posted 29 April 2016 - 06:01 PM
Lady Bliss, on 29 April 2016 - 04:58 PM, said:
I can't search and multiquote on single users in my phone... Grrrr
Just did a read through on ADL. 15 posts of almost nothing. Mostly jokes. This guy is coasting way under the radar.
vote ADL
Just did a read through on ADL. 15 posts of almost nothing. Mostly jokes. This guy is coasting way under the radar.
vote ADL
15 posts? That's more than I thought I had. I thought I would have time to play but I guess I was wrong. I'm skimming through posts when I have time but can't compose anything useful about anyone and only respond about myself. So I apologize for that. I understand your vote but I think it is mainly a great opportunity to throw people off of looking your way and towards me. There was talk how youre posts had no meat and folks agreed so now you decided to find someone with mess meat. Which is fine I guess but I don't believe you think I'm scum, just trying to save your own self just in case.
No Touchy.
#684
Posted 29 April 2016 - 06:03 PM
I'm not gonna be able to post anything useful until the weekend. That's where I'm at.
No Touchy.
#686
Posted 29 April 2016 - 06:20 PM
A Demon Llama!, on 29 April 2016 - 06:01 PM, said:
Lady Bliss, on 29 April 2016 - 04:58 PM, said:
I can't search and multiquote on single users in my phone... Grrrr
Just did a read through on ADL. 15 posts of almost nothing. Mostly jokes. This guy is coasting way under the radar.
vote ADL
Just did a read through on ADL. 15 posts of almost nothing. Mostly jokes. This guy is coasting way under the radar.
vote ADL
15 posts? That's more than I thought I had. I thought I would have time to play but I guess I was wrong. I'm skimming through posts when I have time but can't compose anything useful about anyone and only respond about myself. So I apologize for that. I understand your vote but I think it is mainly a great opportunity to throw people off of looking your way and towards me. There was talk how youre posts had no meat and folks agreed so now you decided to find someone with mess meat. Which is fine I guess but I don't believe you think I'm scum, just trying to save your own self just in case.
Actually there is a significant difference between our play. While I have been stuck in meetings and playing mobile,I have been contributing my opinions and justifying where I have voted with reasons. YOU have completely coasted with nothing.
"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" - Shylock
#687
Posted 29 April 2016 - 06:26 PM
So, Tatts asks me who I am suspicious off.
1) Tattersail
2) Gust Hubb - because I think he backs strange trains and I don't have a full sense of his reasonings for it. To a lesser extent, this also goes for
3) Andorion
4) Coltaine, who seems a little defensive - but that might be because of the fact it's a debut.
Standard targets:
2) HiddenOne - because he's HiddenOne.
3) Khell - because always.
Other stuff:
1) Bubba is PI in my book for nothing but gut. He's around, not highly contributing but more than needed for just laying low.
2) there's enough material on Lady B to get a read. She's definitely around and very actively playing, I have her as solid town (PI) but opinions are divided about that.
1) Tattersail
2) Gust Hubb - because I think he backs strange trains and I don't have a full sense of his reasonings for it. To a lesser extent, this also goes for
3) Andorion
4) Coltaine, who seems a little defensive - but that might be because of the fact it's a debut.
Standard targets:
2) HiddenOne - because he's HiddenOne.
3) Khell - because always.
Other stuff:
1) Bubba is PI in my book for nothing but gut. He's around, not highly contributing but more than needed for just laying low.
2) there's enough material on Lady B to get a read. She's definitely around and very actively playing, I have her as solid town (PI) but opinions are divided about that.
Everyone is entitled to his own wrong opinion. - Lizrad
#688
Posted 29 April 2016 - 07:19 PM
I don't buy the whole train on Khell. We can't be sure that Mess was a symp. The whole signaling is highly doubtful, as Kitsu was a newby . Giving someone a signal you can't be sure he understands it is risky. If you are too obvious you will get caught. And if he was signaling for someone, it didn't work. Kitsu was killed by the other killer, probably.
So if the other killer did not know him, he could also not defend him.
I'm not sure if Khell is innocent, but I also can't see why we should lynch him.
I'd be fighting like this whatever role I had. Otherwise I wouldn't bother playing. You guys can do what you want, I've said my piece and I think I've refuted the points pretty well.
I'm going to travel, work, and then come back to find someone to make a case on. Someone who I think will make a good case for scum.
Incidentally, I'm not wholly convinced by two independent killers and a symp. In a 17-person game, that seems set too difficult for scum.
What do you think? Two symps? Or another member of the scum aside from killer and symp? I don't know all possibilities.
So if the other killer did not know him, he could also not defend him.
I'm not sure if Khell is innocent, but I also can't see why we should lynch him.
Khellendros, on 29 April 2016 - 12:34 PM, said:
Gust Hubb, on 29 April 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:
Khell is fighting slippery and hard. This is why we never let him get to day 3.
vote khell
vote khell
I'd be fighting like this whatever role I had. Otherwise I wouldn't bother playing. You guys can do what you want, I've said my piece and I think I've refuted the points pretty well.
I'm going to travel, work, and then come back to find someone to make a case on. Someone who I think will make a good case for scum.
Incidentally, I'm not wholly convinced by two independent killers and a symp. In a 17-person game, that seems set too difficult for scum.
What do you think? Two symps? Or another member of the scum aside from killer and symp? I don't know all possibilities.
#689
Posted 29 April 2016 - 07:46 PM
Andorion, on 29 April 2016 - 04:08 PM, said:
Since we don't seem to be getting anywhere, I have a suggestion.
This Tatts-Khell thing, which is mutating into a Tatts-Khell-Tapper thing is getting a lot of attention.
So why don't we lynch them all? One per game day, if one of them is scum, we win.
This Tatts-Khell thing, which is mutating into a Tatts-Khell-Tapper thing is getting a lot of attention.
So why don't we lynch them all? One per game day, if one of them is scum, we win.
Andorion, on 29 April 2016 - 05:13 PM, said:
Two possibilities. lynch the ones who are the loudest or the most quiet ones. But wait? Whats with the moderate players

Now seriously. Voting for ADL is again a vote against someone lying low. Nothing wrong with that. It is as legitimate as voting for Lady Bliss yesterday. But I hoped we could find some kind of clue in connection with Kitsu. But I think as the killers did not knew each other, probably, we may not find any clues.
In the case of Tatts vs Khell, Tatts arguments did not convince me, but from what I have seen until now, Tatts not voting on Khell would be suspicious. So also no vote on Tatts.
I think I will reread some of the posts and look into the notes. Maybe I will find something.
If we don't find an alternative I will probably also vote on ADL. It is as good as any vote on someone lying low I think.
#690
Posted 29 April 2016 - 07:59 PM
Coltaine93, on 29 April 2016 - 07:46 PM, said:
Andorion, on 29 April 2016 - 04:08 PM, said:
Since we don't seem to be getting anywhere, I have a suggestion.
This Tatts-Khell thing, which is mutating into a Tatts-Khell-Tapper thing is getting a lot of attention.
So why don't we lynch them all? One per game day, if one of them is scum, we win.
This Tatts-Khell thing, which is mutating into a Tatts-Khell-Tapper thing is getting a lot of attention.
So why don't we lynch them all? One per game day, if one of them is scum, we win.
Andorion, on 29 April 2016 - 05:13 PM, said:
Two possibilities. lynch the ones who are the loudest or the most quiet ones. But wait? Whats with the moderate players

Now seriously. Voting for ADL is again a vote against someone lying low. Nothing wrong with that. It is as legitimate as voting for Lady Bliss yesterday. But I hoped we could find some kind of clue in connection with Kitsu. But I think as the killers did not knew each other, probably, we may not find any clues.
In the case of Tatts vs Khell, Tatts arguments did not convince me, but from what I have seen until now, Tatts not voting on Khell would be suspicious. So also no vote on Tatts.
I think I will reread some of the posts and look into the notes. Maybe I will find something.
If we don't find an alternative I will probably also vote on ADL. It is as good as any vote on someone lying low I think.
Actually no. There is a significant difference.
1) look at post counts between me and ADL
2) look at the fact that I actually have provided feedback on other posts
3) I haven't just dropped votes and ran
aaaaaaaaaaand 4) I am in a pretty boring meeting today so I looked at ADL's performance in past games. Oddly he is usually one of the higher posters when he is RI and when he is scum (for example when he played Serial Killer in 122.5) he low posted (7 posts) Meta I know... but relevant
"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" - Shylock
#691
Posted 29 April 2016 - 08:19 PM
Alright, so I've finally managed to catch up on reading - sorry folks, been a busy couple days at work...
Right now, I'm very on the fence about Tatts - he's flinging shit in a very Tatts-like fashion, but I feel like he only really started doing that after Day 1, and that's what I'm most suspicious of.
Regards Khell - I dunno, I don't really think there's too much there. I mean, aside from the fact that he's still alive. I'd be willing to vote Khell for that reason alone, but I certainly wish I had more than that.
Tapper and Lady B are on my PI list.
I've got very little read on ADL.
I could go either way on Bubba, Coltaine and Dhenrabi right now - they're all participating, the latter two especially have been putting up very good cases, and really analyzing everything on thread, so I guess I lean more towards the inno side of things for them.
Uhm...
Andorion has been pretty active, but I've got very little read on him - I think I may have to take some time to really see what he's had to say...
Gust has been less active, and I've not got much of a read on him either.
Macros is being his normal ornery self, plus he hasn't done or said anything that has struck me as particularly scummy.
HO is coasting a la HO-style. I wouldn't mind lynching him, but I think there are better targets out there...
So, in short, my vote, at the moment, goes to Khell, Tatts, or HO, with a willingness to go Gust or Andorion if I see a good case there.
Right now, I'm very on the fence about Tatts - he's flinging shit in a very Tatts-like fashion, but I feel like he only really started doing that after Day 1, and that's what I'm most suspicious of.
Regards Khell - I dunno, I don't really think there's too much there. I mean, aside from the fact that he's still alive. I'd be willing to vote Khell for that reason alone, but I certainly wish I had more than that.
Tapper and Lady B are on my PI list.
I've got very little read on ADL.
I could go either way on Bubba, Coltaine and Dhenrabi right now - they're all participating, the latter two especially have been putting up very good cases, and really analyzing everything on thread, so I guess I lean more towards the inno side of things for them.
Uhm...
Andorion has been pretty active, but I've got very little read on him - I think I may have to take some time to really see what he's had to say...
Gust has been less active, and I've not got much of a read on him either.
Macros is being his normal ornery self, plus he hasn't done or said anything that has struck me as particularly scummy.
HO is coasting a la HO-style. I wouldn't mind lynching him, but I think there are better targets out there...
So, in short, my vote, at the moment, goes to Khell, Tatts, or HO, with a willingness to go Gust or Andorion if I see a good case there.
There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived. ~ Anomander Rake
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
#692
Posted 29 April 2016 - 08:22 PM
Lady Bliss, on 29 April 2016 - 07:59 PM, said:
Coltaine93, on 29 April 2016 - 07:46 PM, said:
Andorion, on 29 April 2016 - 04:08 PM, said:
Since we don't seem to be getting anywhere, I have a suggestion.
This Tatts-Khell thing, which is mutating into a Tatts-Khell-Tapper thing is getting a lot of attention.
So why don't we lynch them all? One per game day, if one of them is scum, we win.
This Tatts-Khell thing, which is mutating into a Tatts-Khell-Tapper thing is getting a lot of attention.
So why don't we lynch them all? One per game day, if one of them is scum, we win.
Andorion, on 29 April 2016 - 05:13 PM, said:
Two possibilities. lynch the ones who are the loudest or the most quiet ones. But wait? Whats with the moderate players

Now seriously. Voting for ADL is again a vote against someone lying low. Nothing wrong with that. It is as legitimate as voting for Lady Bliss yesterday. But I hoped we could find some kind of clue in connection with Kitsu. But I think as the killers did not knew each other, probably, we may not find any clues.
In the case of Tatts vs Khell, Tatts arguments did not convince me, but from what I have seen until now, Tatts not voting on Khell would be suspicious. So also no vote on Tatts.
I think I will reread some of the posts and look into the notes. Maybe I will find something.
If we don't find an alternative I will probably also vote on ADL. It is as good as any vote on someone lying low I think.
Actually no. There is a significant difference.
1) look at post counts between me and ADL
2) look at the fact that I actually have provided feedback on other posts
3) I haven't just dropped votes and ran
aaaaaaaaaaand 4) I am in a pretty boring meeting today so I looked at ADL's performance in past games. Oddly he is usually one of the higher posters when he is RI and when he is scum (for example when he played Serial Killer in 122.5) he low posted (7 posts) Meta I know... but relevant
I just had both of you in the same categorie, "Lying low". But probably ADL should get his own categorie, "Lying lower"
Meta, but a good point.
Vote A Demon Llama
#693
Posted 30 April 2016 - 01:09 AM
It is Day 3. 16 hours 50 minutes remaining
13 players alive: A Demon Llama, Andorion, Blend, Bubba, Coltain93, Dhenrabi, Gust Hubb, HiddenOne, Khellendros, Lady Bliss, Macros, Tapper, Tattersail
7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to night.
2 votes Khell: Tattersail, Gust Hubb,
3 votes ADL: Lady Bliss, Andorion, Coltain93,
Players not voted: A Demon Llama, Blend, Bubba, Dhenrabi, HiddenOne, Khellendros, Macros, Tapper,
Game is frozen for the weekend. It will restart this time EST or somewhat later Sunday night.
Votes count but will most likely not be tallied until then.
13 players alive: A Demon Llama, Andorion, Blend, Bubba, Coltain93, Dhenrabi, Gust Hubb, HiddenOne, Khellendros, Lady Bliss, Macros, Tapper, Tattersail
7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to night.
2 votes Khell: Tattersail, Gust Hubb,
3 votes ADL: Lady Bliss, Andorion, Coltain93,
Players not voted: A Demon Llama, Blend, Bubba, Dhenrabi, HiddenOne, Khellendros, Macros, Tapper,
Game is frozen for the weekend. It will restart this time EST or somewhat later Sunday night.
Votes count but will most likely not be tallied until then.
This post has been edited by Gnaw: 30 April 2016 - 01:14 AM
"Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor Frankl
#694
Posted 30 April 2016 - 01:12 AM
Gnaw when are you going to put in the weekend freeze?
#695
Posted 30 April 2016 - 01:15 AM
now.

"Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor Frankl
#696
Posted 30 April 2016 - 01:17 AM
Awesome. Since the freeze is in, and ADL said he can only post during the weekend, I will be keeping an eye out
#697
Posted 30 April 2016 - 01:20 AM
Andorion, on 30 April 2016 - 01:17 AM, said:
Awesome. Since the freeze is in, and ADL said he can only post during the weekend, I will be keeping an eye out
Well of course now that we've called him out he's going to change his tune

"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" - Shylock
#698
Posted 30 April 2016 - 08:44 AM
Not everyone can be scum. If I listen to multiple players saying they find someone pi then I've got to listen to it. Tapper AND Blend both have Bliss as probably innocent.
Apt is the only one who reads this. Apt is nice.
#699
Posted 30 April 2016 - 08:54 AM
remove vote
Just read everyone's reaction to my case. It's not just one or two people it's most. Maybe Khell is scum but my case doesn't hold water.
I did say in my pm that I wouldn't use Messremb's post. Yet I did. I also said we shouldn't look at symps because we never know and there's no way to prove it.
No distractions this morning so I'm once again looking at the thread with fresh eyes.
Just read everyone's reaction to my case. It's not just one or two people it's most. Maybe Khell is scum but my case doesn't hold water.
I did say in my pm that I wouldn't use Messremb's post. Yet I did. I also said we shouldn't look at symps because we never know and there's no way to prove it.
No distractions this morning so I'm once again looking at the thread with fresh eyes.
Apt is the only one who reads this. Apt is nice.
#700
Posted 30 April 2016 - 08:55 AM
Tattersail_, on 30 April 2016 - 08:44 AM, said:
Not everyone can be scum. If I listen to multiple players saying they find someone pi then I've got to listen to it. Tapper AND Blend both have Bliss as probably innocent.
The problem with this game is too much evidence. I can find light cases on almost everybody. Usually I struggle to find more that one or two. Deciding who to vote for is therefore quite a problem