[Messremb]

Tattersail_, on 27 April 2016 - 10:50 AM, said:

Glad you brought this up, so are you happy with all the votes by all these people? All these votes makes sense?

Nope. But none of them are around to talk about theirs as much as you are. Look at Bubba - vanished without a trace.

Tattersail_, on 27 April 2016 - 10:50 AM, said:

Why don't you vote someone for your own reason then? Who do you find scummy?

I don't find Andorians train worth it - basically it's a "he mentioned town roles, lynch him!" train which I'm never really happy with, being a known role speculator myself.

The Itwas train starts dubiously. Khell finds HO suspicious but votes Itwas and is content to totally ignore new players - there's as much a chance of scum being amongst them as amongst vets (unless Gnaw fiddled with the randomness) so I'm almost inclined back to my joke Khell vote from this.

He does however raise to me a valid point in the eagerness of Itwas and Itwas' defence of that vote. This is currently the direction I am leaning, it having the most votes at this point is handy too.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 27 April 2016 - 09:00 AM, said:

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Bloody hell, I didn't know about this. I always did filtered searches. Thanks for pointing this out Tatts.

[Khellendros]

Coltaine93, on 27 April 2016 - 09:48 AM, said:

I completely forgot about HO.

Beprepared to say this a lot To be fair to HO, he loves to play, but he's a busy busy guy.

[Messremb]

Khellendros, on 27 April 2016 - 11:09 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 27 April 2016 - 09:00 AM, said:

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Bloody hell, I didn't know about this. I always did filtered searches. Thanks for pointing this out Tatts.

You should all realise I've come up with at least two ways to game this system to your severe future embarrassment...

[Khellendros]

That's not excusing HO's content in his posting in this game by the way, just a general observation. I agree with what I've read so far about HO's vote on Andorion, and indeed pointed it out before, though I decided to vote for Nom.

[Khellendros]

Messremb, on 27 April 2016 - 11:15 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 27 April 2016 - 11:09 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 27 April 2016 - 09:00 AM, said:

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Bloody hell, I didn't know about this. I always did filtered searches. Thanks for pointing this out Tatts.

You should all realise I've come up with at least two ways to game this system to your severe future embarrassment...

Always 'in the future' Mess, always in the future...

[Messremb]

And holy crap it's gone midday.

I am awake far too late. Expect more sense from me Wednesday. Well okay, more Messremb from me on Wednesday.

Vote Itwas Now

[Tattersail_]

So after all that, you could have just voted Nom, or did that post. Basically you didn't like my vote on HO, and felt the need to defend him. At its core that's what just happened.

[Khellendros]

Messremb, on 27 April 2016 - 11:02 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 27 April 2016 - 10:50 AM, said:

Glad you brought this up, so are you happy with all the votes by all these people? All these votes makes sense?

Nope. But none of them are around to talk about theirs as much as you are. Look at Bubba - vanished without a trace.

Tattersail_, on 27 April 2016 - 10:50 AM, said:

Why don't you vote someone for your own reason then? Who do you find scummy?

I don't find Andorians train worth it - basically it's a "he mentioned town roles, lynch him!" train which I'm never really happy with, being a known role speculator myself.

The Itwas train starts dubiously. Khell finds HO suspicious but votes Itwas and is content to totally ignore new players - there's as much a chance of scum being amongst them as amongst vets (unless Gnaw fiddled with the randomness) so I'm almost inclined back to my joke Khell vote from this.

He does however raise to me a valid point in the eagerness of Itwas and Itwas' defence of that vote. This is currently the direction I am leaning, it having the most votes at this point is handy too.

Ignore new players is unfair. I rather don't have a read on them yet. That's not the same as giving them a pass. At the moment I'm happy to vote Nom, Kitsu, or HO, but did feel and do continue to feel that the Nom vote has the best basis (such as it is). It's the one that convinces me the most. If one of the other two become more likely for a lynch, I would switch.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 27 April 2016 - 11:20 AM, said:

So after all that, you could have just voted Nom, or did that post. Basically you didn't like my vote on HO, and felt the need to defend him. At its core that's what just happened.

I actually agree with Mess that your reasoning for voting HO was badly worded - you DO refer to HO as posting like HO and then vote him for that. That doesn't preclude you from being right in yur vote, obviously - but your reason in the way it was put is not a good one.

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 27 April 2016 - 11:30 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 27 April 2016 - 11:20 AM, said:

So after all that, you could have just voted Nom, or did that post. Basically you didn't like my vote on HO, and felt the need to defend him. At its core that's what just happened.

I actually agree with Mess that your reasoning for voting HO was badly worded - you DO refer to HO as posting like HO and then vote him for that. That doesn't preclude you from being right in yur vote, obviously - but your reason in the way it was put is not a good one.

If that last one liner wasn't there, would he/you have any problem with the vote?

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 27 April 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 27 April 2016 - 11:30 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 27 April 2016 - 11:20 AM, said:

So after all that, you could have just voted Nom, or did that post. Basically you didn't like my vote on HO, and felt the need to defend him. At its core that's what just happened.

I actually agree with Mess that your reasoning for voting HO was badly worded - you DO refer to HO as posting like HO and then vote him for that. That doesn't preclude you from being right in yur vote, obviously - but your reason in the way it was put is not a good one.

If that last one liner wasn't there, would he/you have any problem with the vote?

The problem is I have no better-worded reasoning for voting HO than the one you wrote. Yes, it can be argued to be an easy, sliding vote, and similar unconvincing backtracking after too. However, it can equally be argued to be typical HO posting. That's the problem with unalted. If we didn't know for sure it was HO, I would actually be more confident voting there.

Like I said, ultimately I have no issue with voting HO, but at the moment I see more traction with Nom. It would be good to have others chip in with their two cents on this.

[Itwæs Nom]

Lunchbreak

I've somehow managed to skimm through prolly missing number of posts

I'd like to change my vote but I'm not sure where, my current candidates would be

HO, I don't really have a reason, he already posted more than he did in his las two games it seems and is coasting as he did in those games, but he still only adds very little content. Exactly what he played last games like. Guess I just don't like it.

Mess speculated on players very little, placed no serious vote until now, basically trying not to create too much waves around. Usually thread seems to be all around him when he's high poster, but this time he's in the background despite the high number of his posts. I haven't really realised his presence until now

I don't klnow how much time is left and I think I should switch to HO for being HO, which is at the moment better option for me than Ando with whose later contribution I have to admit I feel satisfied

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vote Mess

[Gust Hubb]

I do love waking up to find so much discussion again. It's been a while since Mafia was natural and not a constant stream of "can't get a read because no one is posting."

First off, HO: I am torn. His posts seemed pretty standard to me. He is in the open, so he is being more vocal (not surprising) but true to form he is not really posting much regardless. He always worries me because he lives up to his name and a victory from him is disconcerting. I am not ready to bite that hook yet though.

Second: People need to take a look at Lady Bliss. Alarm bells were going off there, and while I don't have time this morning (on the crapper and then heading off to exercise before a resident meeting at 7 am) to do a deep dive, I have been keeping an eye on her and don't like what I see. Again, more of a day 2 problem, but a reminder none the less.

Third: Nom, definitely playing a background, lurking game. Not really helping much and just as much defensive as going for the "meh, whatever" vibe. There is a good train on him, and to get a day 1 lynch it is Tatts, Ando, or Nom. Tatts is still bugging me, albeit less so now that he has branched out and started harassing more people (though the newbies need some more going over, seriously). The thing that is helpful about Tatts is he provides a lot of material to look over and he does slip up from time to time. Ando is in the same boat as far as I am concerned.

I'll keep trying to read up on my phone, being spotty and all. Hell, I might do the elliptical, and then participate more at the gym, we'll see.

Remove Vote

Vote Nom

[Tattersail_]

It is day 1. 2 hours 10 minutes remain.? roughly 2pm gmt..

17 players alive: ADL, Andorion, Blend, Bliss, Bubba, Coltain93, Dhenrabi, Gusty, HO, Itwas Nom, Khell, Kitsu, Macros, Mess, Sergiej, Tapper, Tatts

9 votes to lynch, 9 votes to night.

Votes:
6 votes Itwas Nom: Khellendros, Andorion, Blend, Coltaine93, Messremb, Gust Hubb
3 votes Andorion: Itwas Nom, HiddenOne, ADemonLlama
1 votes Tattersail: Macros
2 vote HiddenOne: Bubba, Tattersail
1 vote Gusty: Sergiej
1 vote Macros: Just Plain Kitsu
1 vote Messremb: Itwasnom

[Gust Hubb]

So why not nom Tatts?

[Tattersail_]

Gust Hubb, on 27 April 2016 - 12:04 PM, said:

So why not nom Tatts?

2 hours to go, i'll switch if needed but feel more comfortable with my vote where it is.

[Gust Hubb]

That wasn't an answer

[Gust Hubb]

OK, on the elliptical, OST (stupid autocorrect) in front of me, and carrying on with both rereads.

Edit:cleaning up after the autocorrect

This post has been edited by Gust Hubb: 27 April 2016 - 12:12 PM

[Gust Hubb]

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 09:34 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 26 April 2016 - 07:52 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 02:19 AM, said:

Woo game thread.

Vote Khellendros

Because Macros and Venge have a point...

Remind me what that point is. Place joke votes on me at beginning of game for good luck?

Many might consider lynching you to be good luck

Note for JPK, Siergiej and Dhenrabi, genuine truth - if Khell is alive on Day 3 then he is scum

Another note: in un-alted mafia some old grudges occasionally get settled

Also, Day 1 votes can be extremely random. Example:

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Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 04:35 AM, said:

You know, if the voting system was actually for lynching - with the last candidate standing getting the position - I'll bet we'd have much larger voter turnout here. Besides that's the only way I can imagine voting Trump.

You'd consider voting Trump for anything? Clearly scummy

Vote JPK

Lynches have run off of far less than that.

So

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Are we going to be serious today or whimsical?

Khellendros, on 26 April 2016 - 07:55 AM, said:

2) You want us to speculate on town roles. That's interesting.

Why do you think it is a Town role? It could be scum, it could be independent.

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 08:21 AM, said:

Soo lets see, Day 1:

1. Standard nonsential conversation: Check
2. Joke voting: Check
3. Suspicion of player speculating on game roles: Check
4. Accusation of signalling and symping: Waiting on this one.
5. Lynch Bubba: Inevitable

OMGUS?

Is mess with the symp and kitsu a master?