[twelve]

Well add in the ending scene with the gun fire in the house that likely held people stranded with what Maddie told Daniel about non sick people being gunned down and I conclude that if you are outside the fence you are a threat alive/dead it doesn't matter. Why do you think Maddie hid under the car when the patrol came by?

[acesn8s]

I have a bad feeling about that doctor.

I also guess that a lot of the doctors and nurses and dead at this point, seeing as hospitals must be ground zero for walkers. They must be desperate if they are willing to take Travis ex-wife who isn't actually a nurse.

I'm wondering if the wounded are gathered up to experiment on, that is something we haven't really seen in either show yet.

[Bulwyf]

twelve, on 24 September 2015 - 06:39 PM, said:

Well add in the ending scene with the gun fire in the house that likely held people stranded with what Maddie told Daniel about non sick people being gunned down and I conclude that if you are outside the fence you are a threat alive/dead it doesn't matter. Why do you think Maddie hid under the car when the patrol came by?

Well she did cut a hole in their fence and sneak out, I don't think she was looking to get caught and having to explain. "Just out for a stroll guys, sorry about the hole in your fence!" She's also doing recon so it would kind of defeat the purpose of exposing herself. Also she's playing it safe/smart, I'd stay hidden too. Even if the they're 100% legit that could be the patrol w/ the nervous twitchy trigger finger guy.

I'm not saying the guard isn't mowing down everything that moves, but there's been no clear evidence of it yet.

That end scene w/ the gunfire in the house, I've been picturing people trapped in the house w/ walkers trying to get at them, signaling trying to draw attention of someone to come help them. I figured it was them shooting the walkers who finally got in and overran them. I guess it could have been the guard finding people held up. It could also be guard finding people trapped and shooting the walkers, saving the trapped people. Those people may show up in the shelter next week's episode.

ps does anyone else start typing the word zombies and catch themselves and delete and rewrite walkers? Either would fit, but I feel like I have to say walkers when talking TWD.

This post has been edited by Bulwyf: 25 September 2015 - 01:16 PM

[Nicodimas]

Bulwyf, on 25 September 2015 - 01:14 PM, said:

twelve, on 24 September 2015 - 06:39 PM, said:

Well add in the ending scene with the gun fire in the house that likely held people stranded with what Maddie told Daniel about non sick people being gunned down and I conclude that if you are outside the fence you are a threat alive/dead it doesn't matter. Why do you think Maddie hid under the car when the patrol came by?

That end scene w/ the gunfire in the house, I've been picturing people trapped in the house w/ walkers trying to get at them, signaling trying to draw attention of someone to come help them. I figured it was them shooting the walkers who finally got in and overran them. I guess it could have been the guard finding people held up. It could also be guard finding people trapped and shooting the walkers, saving the trapped people. Those people may show up in the shelter next week's episode.

I like this theory, this might indicate a swarm is slowly moving toward the NG station/hospital before it gets over-ran? That set up they have running is quite prepared, unless it revolts internally <food sources?> could be there to stay..

[acesn8s]

Last night's episode hints at where the swarm will be coming from. I'm not digging the new character introduced, something just seem too over the top IMO.

You can see the shit flying towards the fan with only 1 episode left before the long break.

[Nicodimas]

acesn8s, on 28 September 2015 - 12:32 PM, said:

Last night's episode hints at where the swarm will be coming from. I'm not digging the new character introduced, something just seem too over the top IMO.

You can see the shit flying towards the fan with only 1 episode left before the long break.

I liked the twist on this episode and went with it as it means the 2nd half the season should be fast paced.

Spoiler

did anyone think cobalt was a reference to... Dr.Strangelove, are they going to fry the cities?

[Bulwyf]

Nicodimas, on 28 September 2015 - 05:12 PM, said:

acesn8s, on 28 September 2015 - 12:32 PM, said:

Last night's episode hints at where the swarm will be coming from. I'm not digging the new character introduced, something just seem too over the top IMO.

You can see the shit flying towards the fan with only 1 episode left before the long break.

I liked the twist on this episode and went with it as it means the 2nd half the season should be fast paced.

Spoiler

did anyone think cobalt was a reference to... Dr.Strangelove, are they going to fry the cities?

...is there a 2nd half of the season? I thought it was a 6 episode mini season, and they were going to judge the reaction/success of the show to see if a season 2 would be made.

[acesn8s]

Bulwyf, on 29 September 2015 - 02:30 PM, said:

Nicodimas, on 28 September 2015 - 05:12 PM, said:

acesn8s, on 28 September 2015 - 12:32 PM, said:

Last night's episode hints at where the swarm will be coming from. I'm not digging the new character introduced, something just seem too over the top IMO.

You can see the shit flying towards the fan with only 1 episode left before the long break.

I liked the twist on this episode and went with it as it means the 2nd half the season should be fast paced.

Spoiler

did anyone think cobalt was a reference to... Dr.Strangelove, are they going to fry the cities?

...is there a 2nd half of the season? I thought it was a 6 episode mini season, and they were going to judge the reaction/success of the show to see if a season 2 would be made.

I guess they are calling it season 2, which will be 15 episodes.

[Bulwyf]

acesn8s, on 29 September 2015 - 07:06 PM, said:

Bulwyf, on 29 September 2015 - 02:30 PM, said:

Nicodimas, on 28 September 2015 - 05:12 PM, said:

acesn8s, on 28 September 2015 - 12:32 PM, said:

Last night's episode hints at where the swarm will be coming from. I'm not digging the new character introduced, something just seem too over the top IMO.

You can see the shit flying towards the fan with only 1 episode left before the long break.

I liked the twist on this episode and went with it as it means the 2nd half the season should be fast paced.

Spoiler

did anyone think cobalt was a reference to... Dr.Strangelove, are they going to fry the cities?

...is there a 2nd half of the season? I thought it was a 6 episode mini season, and they were going to judge the reaction/success of the show to see if a season 2 would be made.

I guess they are calling it season 2, which will be 15 episodes.

Oh, is there a season 2 premiere date then? Is it going to start right after TWD mid-season finale I hope? ...Or more likely is it starting next Summer?

[twelve]

Yeah AMC pre committed to a second season regardless of the fan reaction. Though from reading the comments of the latest episode it seems like there are a lot of haters of the show. I think most of the issues are with the pace and the fact that most of the characters are zombie survival idiots. My thoughts are what did you expect? Characters like season 5 walking dead who have been seasoned through their trials? That is completely unreasonable. It takes time for civilization to break down and everyone on the show outside the military types that face the threat day in and day out really don't understand that things are NOT going to go back to the way things were. I am personally enjoying the ride slow though it may be. It seems like fans of TWD forgot about season 2 where they spent most of the season hiding out on the farm looking for Carols daughter. Tell me that was a action packed fast paced season.

[acesn8s]

twelve, on 29 September 2015 - 08:28 PM, said:

Yeah AMC pre committed to a second season regardless of the fan reaction. Though from reading the comments of the latest episode it seems like there are a lot of haters of the show. I think most of the issues are with the pace and the fact that most of the characters are zombie survival idiots. My thoughts are what did you expect? Characters like season 5 walking dead who have been seasoned through their trials? That is completely unreasonable. It takes time for civilization to break down and everyone on the show outside the military types that face the threat day in and day out really don't understand that things are NOT going to go back to the way things were. I am personally enjoying the ride slow though it may be. It seems like fans of TWD forgot about season 2 where they spent most of the season hiding out on the farm looking for Carols daughter. Tell me that was a action packed fast paced season.

Agreed. I'm enjoying the slow personality reveals for each of the characters.

As a father, there are things that I've done for my daughter that I probably would have avoided for myself. I'm waiting to see something similar from Travis. You can see Maggie doing it all the time for Nick. Come on, Travis! Time to Hulk out.

[twelve]

acesn8s, on 30 September 2015 - 12:01 PM, said:

Agreed. I'm enjoying the slow personality reveals for each of the characters.

As a father, there are things that I've done for my daughter that I probably would have avoided for myself. I'm waiting to see something similar from Travis. You can see Maggie doing it all the time for Nick. Come on, Travis! Time to Hulk out.

I think Travis got a serious wakeup call from the Humvee ride and finding out about Cobalt. Speaking of which how do you all think the military will execute Cobalt? I'm trying to remember what happened in TWD. I think it was likely a flashback episode but can't quite remember. Plus this is a different town anyway. Personally I think the Nuclear option is off the table. But anything that would permanently kill likely requires at a bare minimum extreme fire if they want to be efficient. But then you are sacrificing infrastructure. Else you have to go around and put bullets in everyone's heads and I just don't see soldiers going around person to person shooting civilians in cold blood. Should be an interesting final episode.

[Illuyankas]

I'm betting on nerve gas and then bolt guns while they're still alive.

[acesn8s]

MOABs.

[acesn8s]

Spoiler

So, let's free over 2,000 walkers in order to save a dying woman (dead) and a junkie. I'm not sure how to take this. Travis won't shoot anyone, but he's okay freeing a horde to ravage the sick and imprisoned people? Not to mentioned anyone still hiding out in the city?

[Nicodimas]

acesn8s, on 05 October 2015 - 08:39 PM, said:

Spoiler

So, let's free over 2,000 walkers in order to save a dying woman (dead) and a junkie. I'm not sure how to take this. Travis won't shoot anyone, but he's okay freeing a horde to ravage the sick and imprisoned people? Not to mentioned anyone still hiding out in the city?

To this in a article I read:

Spoiler

I read somewhere this group is going to be more like the Governor ...I am still curious if this was true, but they may make vastly different decisions then the other group to survive. I'm psyched if true.

[Bulwyf]

acesn8s, on 05 October 2015 - 08:39 PM, said:

Spoiler

So, let's free over 2,000 walkers in order to save a dying woman (dead) and a junkie. I'm not sure how to take this. Travis won't shoot anyone, but he's okay freeing a horde to ravage the sick and imprisoned people? Not to mentioned anyone still hiding out in the city?

They probably saw it as their only weapon to take on an army that they were thinking were going to kill them and retreat elsewhere. They're also new to the apocalypse so probably thought an army with guns could deal w/ the herd, it would just slow them/distract them so they could free their people.

Also I bet Travis does either turn into a zombie killing super saiyan or a Govenator (hey, they are in Cali!). They want to show his transformation from someone hating guns, so I bet they evolve him into an ultra violent guy so they can show the progression of the apocalypse.

[paran falcon]

Bulwyf, on 06 October 2015 - 12:49 PM, said:

acesn8s, on 05 October 2015 - 08:39 PM, said:

Spoiler

So, let's free over 2,000 walkers in order to save a dying woman (dead) and a junkie. I'm not sure how to take this. Travis won't shoot anyone, but he's okay freeing a horde to ravage the sick and imprisoned people? Not to mentioned anyone still hiding out in the city?

They probably saw it as their only weapon to take on an army that they were thinking were going to kill them and retreat elsewhere. They're also new to the apocalypse so probably thought an army with guns could deal w/ the herd, it would just slow them/distract them so they could free their people.

Also I bet Travis does either turn into a zombie killing super saiyan or a Govenator (hey, they are in Cali!). They want to show his transformation from someone hating guns, so I bet they evolve him into an ultra violent guy so they can show the progression of the apocalypse.

I agree with your first point for sure. The National Guard has military weaponry. I'm pretty sure I'd do about the same to get one of my kids, especially if I suspected the military was going to abandon and/or kill civilians on their way out.

I'm not sure about Travis, though.

Spoiler

I was actually surprised at his violent outburst on Andrew, the torture victim that shot Ophelia. That seemed a little out of character for him at this stage. I saw the Talking Dead also and Cliff Curtis (Travis) explained it as Andrew had made a "deal" with him (telling him where to find their people in exchange for not being killed) and then broken it and that Travis won't stand for. I can buy that, I guess.

There could be some intriguing possibilities for a S2.

Spoiler

Things could be worse than cruising around on a luxury yacht, assuming they actually take possession of it! Pirates at some point will be an issue, as well as eventual re-supply. I already thought of: What if they come upon a cruise ship and try to stock up from it? Could make an interesting episode or two...

[Bulwyf]

paran falcon, on 06 October 2015 - 02:22 PM, said:

Bulwyf, on 06 October 2015 - 12:49 PM, said:

acesn8s, on 05 October 2015 - 08:39 PM, said:

Spoiler

So, let's free over 2,000 walkers in order to save a dying woman (dead) and a junkie. I'm not sure how to take this. Travis won't shoot anyone, but he's okay freeing a horde to ravage the sick and imprisoned people? Not to mentioned anyone still hiding out in the city?

They probably saw it as their only weapon to take on an army that they were thinking were going to kill them and retreat elsewhere. They're also new to the apocalypse so probably thought an army with guns could deal w/ the herd, it would just slow them/distract them so they could free their people.

Also I bet Travis does either turn into a zombie killing super saiyan or a Govenator (hey, they are in Cali!). They want to show his transformation from someone hating guns, so I bet they evolve him into an ultra violent guy so they can show the progression of the apocalypse.

I agree with your first point for sure. The National Guard has military weaponry. I'm pretty sure I'd do about the same to get one of my kids, especially if I suspected the military was going to abandon and/or kill civilians on their way out.

I'm not sure about Travis, though.

Spoiler

I was actually surprised at his violent outburst on Andrew, the torture victim that shot Ophelia. That seemed a little out of character for him at this stage. I saw the Talking Dead also and Cliff Curtis (Travis) explained it as Andrew had made a "deal" with him (telling him where to find their people in exchange for not being killed) and then broken it and that Travis won't stand for. I can buy that, I guess.

There could be some intriguing possibilities for a S2.

Spoiler

Things could be worse than cruising around on a luxury yacht, assuming they actually take possession of it! Pirates at some point will be an issue, as well as eventual re-supply. I already thought of: What if they come upon a cruise ship and try to stock up from it? Could make an interesting episode or two...

I don't know how much cruising they'd be doing. Boats are gas gusselers for sure. Figured they'd keep it near the beach and do supply runs on land. Just use it for the isolation safety. Be able to sleep a little easier knowing a herd isn't going to crash in on you. Basically a tiny castle with a huge moat hopefully they bring some fishing poles!

[paran falcon]

Bulwyf, on 06 October 2015 - 03:54 PM, said:

paran falcon, on 06 October 2015 - 02:22 PM, said:

Bulwyf, on 06 October 2015 - 12:49 PM, said:

acesn8s, on 05 October 2015 - 08:39 PM, said:

Spoiler

So, let's free over 2,000 walkers in order to save a dying woman (dead) and a junkie. I'm not sure how to take this. Travis won't shoot anyone, but he's okay freeing a horde to ravage the sick and imprisoned people? Not to mentioned anyone still hiding out in the city?

They probably saw it as their only weapon to take on an army that they were thinking were going to kill them and retreat elsewhere. They're also new to the apocalypse so probably thought an army with guns could deal w/ the herd, it would just slow them/distract them so they could free their people.

Also I bet Travis does either turn into a zombie killing super saiyan or a Govenator (hey, they are in Cali!). They want to show his transformation from someone hating guns, so I bet they evolve him into an ultra violent guy so they can show the progression of the apocalypse.

I agree with your first point for sure. The National Guard has military weaponry. I'm pretty sure I'd do about the same to get one of my kids, especially if I suspected the military was going to abandon and/or kill civilians on their way out.

I'm not sure about Travis, though.

Spoiler

I was actually surprised at his violent outburst on Andrew, the torture victim that shot Ophelia. That seemed a little out of character for him at this stage. I saw the Talking Dead also and Cliff Curtis (Travis) explained it as Andrew had made a "deal" with him (telling him where to find their people in exchange for not being killed) and then broken it and that Travis won't stand for. I can buy that, I guess.

There could be some intriguing possibilities for a S2.

Spoiler

Things could be worse than cruising around on a luxury yacht, assuming they actually take possession of it! Pirates at some point will be an issue, as well as eventual re-supply. I already thought of: What if they come upon a cruise ship and try to stock up from it? Could make an interesting episode or two...

I don't know how much cruising they'd be doing. Boats are gas gusselers for sure. Figured they'd keep it near the beach and do supply runs on land. Just use it for the isolation safety. Be able to sleep a little easier knowing a herd isn't going to crash in on you. Basically a tiny castle with a huge moat hopefully they bring some fishing poles!

Good points. Fuel would be a definite issue.