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Mafia 124 - Let Sleeping Dogs Lie 2-phase game

#101 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 02:53 PM

It is Day 2. There are 25 hours 34 minutes remaining.

There are 10 players alive:

Aranatha, Demelain, Denul, Eloth, Hanas, Hood's Path, Karosis, Liosan, Omtose, Telas

6 votes to lynch.

1 vote Telas: Hood's Path
1 vote Demelain: Eloth


Players not voted: Aranatha, Demelain, Denul, Hanas, Karosis, Liosan, Omtose, Telas

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 29 July 2015 - 02:54 PM

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#102 User is offline   Denul 

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 03:50 PM

Hanas you sure use this word a lot. I don't think it means what you think it means.


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View PostHanas, on 28 July 2015 - 06:08 PM, said:

Moronic.

moronic.
moronic.
moronic


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 03:54 PM

View PostHanas, on 28 July 2015 - 08:20 PM, said:


Saying something about my brother using tinder is RL. I'm not going to use RL to throw a signal out there. Not if I'm scum. Not caring whether or not it may be construed as signalling should be a point in my favour of being town because I'm not watching what I say.



You would say something like that if you where scum or town, and lots of people use rl to do lots of stuff in mafia. There are not points in mafia. I think you have this confused with eclipse.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 05:12 PM

I would just like to point out that Aranatha has just had 3 posts. With no content at all. He has completely avoided everything. With only 10 players in the game there is no call for that. While I am not advocating a low poster hunt. I do want to hear some thoughts from Aranatha.


View PostAranatha, on 27 July 2015 - 08:11 PM, said:

What's up
looks like this could be a fun game



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View PostHanas, on 27 July 2015 - 10:09 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 27 July 2015 - 08:11 PM, said:

What's up
looks like this could be a fun game


What makes you say that? Your role pm?


Yeah, you got one too?



View PostAranatha, on 29 July 2015 - 02:55 AM, said:

Just a quick check, am currently in bed suffering some physical issues and reading from phone


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 05:33 PM

View PostOmtose, on 28 July 2015 - 06:13 AM, said:

So...vote night over and over and the game never ends? Sounds great!



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View PostDemelain, on 28 July 2015 - 07:44 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 28 July 2015 - 06:13 AM, said:

So...vote night over and over and the game never ends? Sounds great!


Omtose is a few cans short of a crate



It's called a six-pack, biznitches.

So we don't vote night and let it time out. Same thing.

I believe rule K-11 states that stalemate games are awarded to town!

PS, go ahead and post spoilers over now.



View PostOmtose, on 28 July 2015 - 11:53 AM, said:

I like this Hanas speculation rather than random-telas speculation. AND, if he comes up innocent, we can consider this a deflection from lower posters. An info win-win!

Vote Hanas


So Omtose' entire contribution is trying to end the game day and jump rather randomly on a Hanas lynch. Then he disappears.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 05:58 PM

The entire Telas lynch idea seems really weak. Demelain started that because Telas mentioned a game item? And I am linked to Telas because I posted "Nephilim" I read OP#2



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You find yourselves in a totally original tale of heaven versus hell. Simple-minded humans share the mortal plane with angels and demons, who try to influence them as best they can. The Code states that no direct interference is permitted. Both sides, however, are prone to interpreting the Code more as a set of guidelines than hard and fast rules, and should something happen to awaken their wrath, then it is always humans who will pay first.


And I reacted "Angels and Demons on the mortal plane? Huh, sounds like Nephilim"

And i posted.

This is essentially the product of an early Day1 attempt at being serious with very little to go on.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 06:07 PM

View PostTelas, on 28 July 2015 - 11:34 PM, said:

For starters, if you're going to use spurious logic to indict me, the least you could do is get your facts straights. The cube from diablO was a utility item. While it did have certain quest uses in terms of creating certain items or portals, it was a utility item. The main purpose of the item was the face it gave you a net increase in inventory space (which was rather limited in the game). It wasn't a weapon.

Secondly while i can agree with the sentiment that hunting low posters is a valid strategy, it isn't as useful this early into the game. I do applaud you for getting the discussion started, and there might be something to be gleamed from the exhcanges above. As such no hard feelings. As far as im concerned you're either a diligent townie or a scheming scum. Time shall tell


As I said I was having internet issues (one of the telegraph poles to the village had come down - it fell in line with the cables so the slack taken up meant the cable didn't part immediately however it was clearly not doing it much good. One vehicle abandoned overnight by it so potentially a traffic accident although the car showed no visible damage) so therefore couldn't do a thorough checkup. My recollection of the cube was that you put weapons in it, add gems and make better weapons, the inventory space increase is incidental to the purpose of the item as it was a quest item. Your post read (and still does read to me) like it was a reference to the Cubes weapon enhancement function.

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View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 July 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

You find yourselves in a totally original tale of heaven versus hell. Simple-minded humans share the mortal plane with angels and demons, who try to influence them as best they can. The Code states that no direct interference is permitted. Both sides, however, are prone to interpreting the Code more as a set of guidelines than hard and fast rules, and should something happen to awaken their wrath, then it is always humans who will pay first.



You have quite a treasure there in that horadric cube


Whilst the cube reference is a nice way of figuring in the 3 scum as the Prime Evils, the only reason I can see for making the reference like that would be for you to indicate to yours scum partners that you are one of the 3 and that your role PM contained one of the names of them - Baal, Mephisto and Diablo. It gets around Khells warnings about posting anything from role pm quite neatly. The only bit that I don't get is the Code reference from Khell; not having played Diablo 3 I may be missing out on this though.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 29 July 2015 - 09:42 AM, said:

God sighed, and once more His infallible mind wandered back to good old Old Testament days, when His wrath was furious and His vengeance was quick, back before the political correctness brigade said He shouldn't do things like that, but had to be all lovey dovey and peace and mercy and compassion and all that rubbish.

And look where it had got them. Now not even the fact that the Earth appeared to be in perpetual day seemed to stir these feckless mortals into action. And His angels had grown fat and lazy too, all of them counting on His Divine Forgiveness to get them out of any mess they made.

Hmm, now, if he were to exact His Fury on all those PC-types, blasting them all from the face of the earth, then there wouldn't be anyone left to complain about His lack of forbearance. Maybe next time they decided to remain indolent, maybe next time...



And thanks Gnaw!


30 hours and 56 minutes remaining in day 2.


AKA Khell would like us to lynch, please.

View PostHanas, on 29 July 2015 - 11:10 AM, said:

View PostTelas, on 28 July 2015 - 11:50 PM, said:

This depends on your propensity to risk. By virtue of the fact that everyone is looking for signalling it of itself it's a risky proposition. Furthermore, assuming you are scum, and you know who another scum is, there's only a 1/8 chance of a lynch hurting you. Unless you're telling me these scum are SOOO clever that they could signal each other without anyone noticing it makes no sense to make the attempt. Let the dice roll a few times. Then you can start co ordinating kills when there's less town around.

You're either an idiot, or you're trying to shift attention

I think most of my unease with Telas comes from the way Liosan acted through day one.

As far as I am aware there are 3 players so far that would think it stupid to signal or are just saying that because they did and do not want us to pick up on it.

I say it's stupid to signal, so does Demelain but Telas makes a speech out of it. Does the part I highlighted seem like gloating to anyone else?


The whole post seems to me to be Telas saying "Oh shit I signalled and got caught, better promote the no-signalling approach so that people don't think I actually signalled" Other than that I agree with his logic. I've missed Liosans acting on day 1, I'll catch up on that in a bit

View PostEloth, on 29 July 2015 - 02:47 PM, said:

So, if we are going to look at potential candidates for a lynch, I think we need to take a look at Demelain. With only two posts, one non-edit post, he has effectively control the thread moving the majority of the focus to Telas. Second, in a couple of games the "real life problem sorry can't post" excuse was used and worked well for scum so now we won't think badly about him for not posting too often. That was he can promote a low posters hunt while being one.

As far as signaling, scum may or may not be doing it. Either way, scum tend to like to pat each other on the back and second ideas that will get the thread moving in the right direction. It's like they can't help it.

As an aside, I'd also like to site the overuse of the word moronic in the last day.. I do not think I've ever read that word so much. If I was a suspicous person, I'd think it some kind of weird signaling. :(

View PostDemelain, on 28 July 2015 - 07:44 AM, said:

Fear not, Demelain is here.Been having some internet issues (currently a range of sites includi ng google are not resolving) so forgive my lack of banter please, forum access may not last.Cue mildly serious start from me.There's 10 of us, 5 have roles (2 town, 3 scum.) That gives a 50% chance of hitting a role should we lynch at random. Statistically entirely random lynches should hit scum with a chance of 30% after 1 lynch and 63% after 2 random lynches (although google is as I say out so someone check my math, it is a long time since I did statistics of any form.)We can go for the entirely random lynch approach. I don't like it though, strikes me as a little too mechanical for this game (or any game)What else can we do?We can try jumping on suspected symping but that is chasing shadows with a torch, for reasons I shouldn't need to explain.It is a long time since we had a low poster hunt, I could get behind the lynching of someone with a low post count and low content - as town we should be thrashing out details of mechanics not waiting on scum to slip up. Although I am the last to check in so realise I'm first on the block here :pHaving said that, now I take a quick glance at those alts with 1 post only (in the order that the forum lists them when you click the number of posts for the thread from the Mafia forum page for those who think there is more logic to it than that)
*snip*
I'm going to vote Telas because of that there post but I'd also be happy with Eloth for the essential nothingness of their post.Vote Telas


I'm not going to discount Telas, as scum..or Hanas. It's early in the day so I'm going to feel out the thread on this idea. Maybe it's completely cracked but I think it has some merit..

Vote Demelain


Everyone is a candidate for lynch, would you mind doing the same for everyone else? :( As for "RL problems" then yes, internet dropping out at random and a range of sites not resolving was a problem but does seem to be mostly fixed now (apart from one blip an hour ago) As I didn't want to have posts lost each time I reply I decided to concentrate into a single post each time so much easier to copy text as a backup. It clearly worked well because I'm controlling thread with only 2 proper posts. Go me. Although I will admit to tunnel vision on Telas for the moment, I'll try and move past that.

Your accusation of moronic being signalling is mo... oh wait, yes. So on the chance this is actually a genuine thing that has slipped by can anyone who hasn't used the word/had it used at them please take a look at it?

Also note I said low post *and* low content - as I knew damned well I'm be low posting for a time so put as much content in as I could :apt:

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 06:19 PM

View PostKarosis, on 29 July 2015 - 05:58 PM, said:

The entire Telas lynch idea seems really weak. Demelain started that because Telas mentioned a game item? And I am linked to Telas because I posted "Nephilim" I read OP#2



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You find yourselves in a totally original tale of heaven versus hell. Simple-minded humans share the mortal plane with angels and demons, who try to influence them as best they can. The Code states that no direct interference is permitted. Both sides, however, are prone to interpreting the Code more as a set of guidelines than hard and fast rules, and should something happen to awaken their wrath, then it is always humans who will pay first.


And I reacted "Angels and Demons on the mortal plane? Huh, sounds like Nephilim"

And i posted.

This is essentially the product of an early Day1 attempt at being serious with very little to go on.


You've already been linked to Telas and here you are defending him?

Vote Telas

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 06:19 PM

View PostKarosis, on 29 July 2015 - 05:58 PM, said:

The entire Telas lynch idea seems really weak. Demelain started that because Telas mentioned a game item? And I am linked to Telas because I posted "Nephilim" I read OP#2



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Posted 27 July 2015 - 04:02 AM

You find yourselves in a totally original tale of heaven versus hell. Simple-minded humans share the mortal plane with angels and demons, who try to influence them as best they can. The Code states that no direct interference is permitted. Both sides, however, are prone to interpreting the Code more as a set of guidelines than hard and fast rules, and should something happen to awaken their wrath, then it is always humans who will pay first.


And I reacted "Angels and Demons on the mortal plane? Huh, sounds like Nephilim"

And i posted.

This is essentially the product of an early Day1 attempt at being serious with very little to go on.


You've already been linked to Telas and here you are defending him?

Vote Telas

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 06:19 PM

FFS, sorry that was entirely a me issue clicking it twice thinking it'd hung.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 06:24 PM

It is Day 2. There are 22 hours 4 minutes remaining.

There are 10 players alive:

Aranatha, Demelain, Denul, Eloth, Hanas, Hood's Path, Karosis, Liosan, Omtose, Telas

6 votes to lynch.

2 votes Telas: Hood's Path, Demelain
1 vote Demelain: Eloth


Players not voted: Aranatha, Denul, Hanas, Karosis, Liosan, Omtose, Telas

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 29 July 2015 - 06:24 PM

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 06:24 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 29 July 2015 - 09:42 AM, said:

God sighed, and once more His infallible mind wandered back to good old Old Testament days, when His wrath was furious and His vengeance was quick, back before the political correctness brigade said He shouldn't do things like that, but had to be all lovey dovey and peace and mercy and compassion and all that rubbish.

And look where it had got them. Now not even the fact that the Earth appeared to be in perpetual day seemed to stir these feckless mortals into action. And His angels had grown fat and lazy too, all of them counting on His Divine Forgiveness to get them out of any mess they made.

Hmm, now, if he were to exact His Fury on all those PC-types, blasting them all from the face of the earth, then there wouldn't be anyone left to complain about His lack of forbearance. Maybe next time they decided to remain indolent, maybe next time...



And thanks Gnaw!


30 hours and 56 minutes remaining in day 2.


"Good is gonna smite us. We're gonna get smote!"

In all seriousness, half the players on this game didn't vote yesterday, and I'm wondering how much of it is not wanting to pick a side and show allegiances this early. Who has something to hide?

I'm not going to be around a whole lot today, but I'll stay up to date, and I'm going to pursue this line of thinking further when I have to time to do it.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 06:27 PM

Nope not defending so much as pointing out that I had my own different reason for using my phrase and therefore said link is nonexistent.

Also its kind of true that at the time of your post the only thing Telas had done is make 1-2 posts. So in that context my point was that it was a bit unwarranted.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 10:06 PM

19 hours 22 minutes left.


The Almighty wanders through, looks around. "Oh I'm terribly sorry, I must have taken a wrong turn. I thought I was headed to the mortal plane, but I see that I've somehow managed to wind up in purgatory."

His Multi-Coloured Magnificence walks back, not for the first time contemplating whether giving people free will was really all that wise. After all, what was the point in giving them a choice, if they choose to make no choice at all?

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 10:25 PM

@demelain. Oh come off the real life excuse bullshit im getting real sick and tired of it. There's no way to verify that.

Secondly, if you played d2, you'd know the cube main use was utility. Yes you could craft weapon with it, but who the hell used the cube for that? The best weapons were either uniques or runewords, so your argument flies out the window there. Let me give you the uses for the cube

Create staff in Act2
Create Flail in act3
Create portals in hell mode for the torch charm
Create portal to secret cow level
Storage space
Upgrading gems/runes

Yes you could create weapons but no1 bothered with it, as it was a waste of time

Then you go on this wild tangent about the 3 prime evils what/?????? Dear god thats next level and i didnt even consider that. d2 was a game i played a crap ton in my highschool days and that specific quopte was something i'd heard A LOT in my days. I read the OP i thought d2, hey why not add in a reference maybe get the thread going. Well guess what turns out that gesture did get the thread going, just not in the way i'd anticipated. Your argument is still weak as hell, yet it's not like we're under any pressure (at least we weren't day1 b4 PS started getting all uppity day 2) yet you're driving this train against me the hardest. So with such a tenous argument why the hurry to see me gone?

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 10:25 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 29 July 2015 - 10:06 PM, said:

19 hours 22 minutes left.


The Almighty wanders through, looks around. "Oh I'm terribly sorry, I must have taken a wrong turn. I thought I was headed to the mortal plane, but I see that I've somehow managed to wind up in purgatory."

His Multi-Coloured Magnificence walks back, not for the first time contemplating whether giving people free will was really all that wise. After all, what was the point in giving them a choice, if they choose to make no choice at all?



Every day there is no lynch, randomly kill one player.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 10:33 PM

@hanas, as to why i didn't bother responding to eloth/denul about the link, not much to say, its a battle of heaven and hell in terms of setting and we both come up with similar references in our posts. Not like it came out of nowhere. Take this how you want

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 11:20 PM

View PostTelas, on 29 July 2015 - 10:25 PM, said:

@demelain. Oh come off the real life excuse bullshit im getting real sick and tired of it. There's no way to verify that.

Secondly, if you played d2, you'd know the cube main use was utility. Yes you could craft weapon with it, but who the hell used the cube for that? The best weapons were either uniques or runewords, so your argument flies out the window there. Let me give you the uses for the cube

Create staff in Act2
Create Flail in act3
Create portals in hell mode for the torch charm
Create portal to secret cow level
Storage space
Upgrading gems/runes

Yes you could create weapons but no1 bothered with it, as it was a waste of time

Then you go on this wild tangent about the 3 prime evils what/?????? Dear god thats next level and i didnt even consider that. d2 was a game i played a crap ton in my highschool days and that specific quopte was something i'd heard A LOT in my days. I read the OP i thought d2, hey why not add in a reference maybe get the thread going. Well guess what turns out that gesture did get the thread going, just not in the way i'd anticipated. Your argument is still weak as hell, yet it's not like we're under any pressure (at least we weren't day1 b4 PS started getting all uppity day 2) yet you're driving this train against me the hardest. So with such a tenous argument why the hurry to see me gone?


I disagree, I used it to create "named" items all the time - they were usually pretty damn good. Yeah, I probably didn't "need" to, but it still made the game more fun imo.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 11:22 PM

View PostEloth, on 28 July 2015 - 02:07 PM, said:

Checking in-

I'm not sure what the sudden rush to lynch Hanas is about. Now while I don't think refusing to lynch for days on end is a "fun" idea or what PS had in mind. I'm really not in a rush to jump on a lynch train day 1 when there will be no penalty for the town.

So Omtose and Denul, why the sudden rush to lynch?


Funny, the original "rush" was to lynch Telas, who had 2 votes faster than Hanas.

Then again today, jump on Telas right away.

This post by Eloth smells a bit like an attempted derail.

I'm back! Voting the same way, too!

Vote Hanas

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 11:59 PM

It is Day 2. There are 17 hours 29 minutes remaining.

There are 10 players alive:

Aranatha, Demelain, Denul, Eloth, Hanas, Hood's Path, Karosis, Liosan, Omtose, Telas

6 votes to lynch.

2 votes Telas: Hood's Path, Demelain
1 vote Demelain: Eloth
1 vote Hanas: Omtose


Players not voted: Aranatha, Denul, Hanas, Karosis, Liosan, Telas
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