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Mafia 124 - Let Sleeping Dogs Lie 2-phase game

#81 User is offline   Telas 

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:34 PM

I leave for over a day and look what we have here. Still need to catch up on the thread, not going headfirst into jumping on a lynchbandwagon as there's a 30% sucess rate.

View PostDemelain, on 28 July 2015 - 07:44 AM, said:

Fear not, Demelain is here.

Been having some internet issues (currently a range of sites including google are not resolving) so forgive my lack of banter please, forum access may not last.

Cue mildly serious start from me.

There's 10 of us, 5 have roles (2 town, 3 scum.) That gives a 50% chance of hitting a role should we lynch at random. Statistically entirely random lynches should hit scum with a chance of 30% after 1 lynch and 63% after 2 random lynches (although google is as I say out so someone check my math, it is a long time since I did statistics of any form.)

We can go for the entirely random lynch approach. I don't like it though, strikes me as a little too mechanical for this game (or any game)

What else can we do?

We can try jumping on suspected symping but that is chasing shadows with a torch, for reasons I shouldn't need to explain.

It is a long time since we had a low poster hunt, I could get behind the lynching of someone with a low post count and low content - as town we should be thrashing out details of mechanics not waiting on scum to slip up. Although I am the last to check in so realise I'm first on the block here :(

Having said that, now I take a quick glance at those alts with 1 post only (in the order that the forum lists them when you click the number of posts for the thread from the Mafia forum page for those who think there is more logic to it than that)

View PostKarosis, on 28 July 2015 - 03:10 AM, said:

So the Nephilim have risen again?


This quote is what pointed out google was down for me - I think this is some sort of angelic reference but not sure; game flavour related so may or may not be of relevance.

View PostEloth, on 27 July 2015 - 05:28 PM, said:

Second..should count for absolutely nothing..


Essentially a nothing post.

View PostOmtose, on 28 July 2015 - 06:13 AM, said:

So...vote night over and over and the game never ends? Sounds great!


Omtose is a few cans short of a crate

View PostTelas, on 27 July 2015 - 06:21 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 July 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

You find yourselves in a totally original tale of heaven versus hell. Simple-minded humans share the mortal plane with angels and demons, who try to influence them as best they can. The Code states that no direct interference is permitted. Both sides, however, are prone to interpreting the Code more as a set of guidelines than hard and fast rules, and should something happen to awaken their wrath, then it is always humans who will pay first.



You have quite a treasure there in that horadric cube


I at least think I'm sure on this one - Diable reference, the cubes were some sort of quest item I think; were they what you created new/upgraded weapons in?

Telas has, I think, potential as a target - if I'm right in thinking that the cubes were what you created weapons in them they could be putting on thread that they're a weapon in potentia i.e. scum telling the other scum who they are.

I'm going to vote Telas because of that there post but I'd also be happy with Eloth for the essential nothingness of their post.



Vote Telas


For starters, if you're going to use spurious logic to indict me, the least you could do is get your facts straights. The cube from diablO was a utility item. While it did have certain quest uses in terms of creating certain items or portals, it was a utility item. The main purpose of the item was the face it gave you a net increase in inventory space (which was rather limited in the game). It wasn't a weapon.

Secondly while i can agree with the sentiment that hunting low posters is a valid strategy, it isn't as useful this early into the game. I do applaud you for getting the discussion started, and there might be something to be gleamed from the exhcanges above. As such no hard feelings. As far as im concerned you're either a diligent townie or a scheming scum. Time shall tell

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:50 PM

View PostLiosan, on 28 July 2015 - 06:47 PM, said:

View PostHanas, on 28 July 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:



Do scum usually paint themselves a target for a lynch this early in the game. You think I'm going to come up scum when I'm the loudest voice in the thread?

Even if there was to be a high posting scum the general trend would be for them to blend in, not make any waves and agree with others rather than venture their own opinions.

Logically we had a better shot of hitting scum by prodding those non entities further.

The votes piling up on me are moronic at best. Scum don't need to signal because they know of at least one other scum, if I signalled someone AND was scum then that'd be easily fucking traced back to whoever I supposedly signalled.


Defence based on 'what scum tend to do' AND playing down of signaling cases? Who's playing scummy bingo right now?

Firstly, the best scum play aggressively, and try to control the game, exactly because that isn't typical scum behaviour, and they come off looking town.

Scum are absolutely going to want to signal each other, because it's in their best interests to get as many town lynched as possible before phase two is triggered and town roles come into play.

Having caught up, I'm still happy where my vote is.


This depends on your propensity to risk. By virtue of the fact that everyone is looking for signalling it of itself it's a risky proposition. Furthermore, assuming you are scum, and you know who another scum is, there's only a 1/8 chance of a lynch hurting you. Unless you're telling me these scum are SOOO clever that they could signal each other without anyone noticing it makes no sense to make the attempt. Let the dice roll a few times. Then you can start co ordinating kills when there's less town around.

You're either an idiot, or you're trying to shift attention

This post has been edited by Telas: 28 July 2015 - 11:51 PM


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 12:28 AM

4 hours remaining. It is highly unlikely that I will be around at timeout.
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Posted 29 July 2015 - 12:44 AM

I have a lot of catching up to do. I will get back on read up and vote before time runs out.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 02:18 AM

That was a shit load of quote fornication.

I am of the mind set that, that was piss poor signaling By Telas followed by massive amount of back peddling.


vote Telas

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 02:19 AM

I will be around until time out. If there is a need to move my vote to get a lynch.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 02:47 AM

View PostHood, on 29 July 2015 - 02:19 AM, said:

I will be around until time out. If there is a need to move my vote to get a lynch.


why the hurry to get in a lynch? It's not like we're racing against the clock.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 02:55 AM

Just a quick check, am currently in bed suffering some physical issues and reading from phone

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 04:36 AM

It is Day 1.

There are 10 players alive:

Aranatha, Demelain, Denul, Eloth, Hanas, Hood's Path, Karosis, Liosan, Omtose, Telas

6 votes to lynch.

2 votes Telas: Demelain, Hood's Path
2 votes Hanas: Liosan, Omtose
1 vote Liosan: Hanas

Players not voted: Aranatha, Denul, Eloth, Karosis, Telas


No lynch.
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Posted 29 July 2015 - 04:38 AM

It is Day 2. There are 35 hours 53 minutes remaining.

There are 10 players alive:

Aranatha, Demelain, Denul, Eloth, Hanas, Hood's Path, Karosis, Liosan, Omtose, Telas



Players not voted: Aranatha, Demelain, Denul, Eloth, Hanas, Hood's Path, Karosis, Liosan, Omtose, Telas
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Posted 29 July 2015 - 09:36 AM

It's like someone died in here. Or more accurately, someone didn't. I was just kidding about letting day timeout FFS.

I'm starting the day where I left off.

Vote Telas

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 09:42 AM

God sighed, and once more His infallible mind wandered back to good old Old Testament days, when His wrath was furious and His vengeance was quick, back before the political correctness brigade said He shouldn't do things like that, but had to be all lovey dovey and peace and mercy and compassion and all that rubbish.

And look where it had got them. Now not even the fact that the Earth appeared to be in perpetual day seemed to stir these feckless mortals into action. And His angels had grown fat and lazy too, all of them counting on His Divine Forgiveness to get them out of any mess they made.

Hmm, now, if he were to exact His Fury on all those PC-types, blasting them all from the face of the earth, then there wouldn't be anyone left to complain about His lack of forbearance. Maybe next time they decided to remain indolent, maybe next time...



And thanks Gnaw!


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 09:42 AM

It is Day 2. There are 30 hours 56 minutes remaining.

There are 10 players alive:

Aranatha, Demelain, Denul, Eloth, Hanas, Hood's Path, Karosis, Liosan, Omtose, Telas


1 vote Telas: Hood's Path


Players not voted: Aranatha, Demelain, Denul, Eloth, Hanas, Karosis, Liosan, Omtose, Telas
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Posted 29 July 2015 - 10:41 AM

So now we have had a whole day behind us let's have a look at it.

View PostHood, on 27 July 2015 - 04:48 PM, said:

Finally I'm first to post!!! This is way more interesting than surfing Tinder.


HP starts off the posting and is present. Maybe shows he was eager to start the game. Since then he hadn't had much to say except on Telas. He hasn't mentioned me at all, or voted me when I was on the block. I haven't properly read through so he might have but I don't remember it. Now why? Why hasn't he mentioned it? If he is scum and he thinks I was signalling him then that's the reason he has kept quiet. I'm not scum but he doesn't know that.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 10:48 AM

Eloth our second poster of the game day had a pretty solid opening day. He avoided getting drawn into the early day one jabs.

He didn't jump onto the bandwagon to lynch quickly.

Then makes a good connection between Telas and Karosis with regards to their word play.

View PostEloth, on 27 July 2015 - 05:28 PM, said:

Second..should count for absolutely nothing..



View PostEloth, on 28 July 2015 - 02:07 PM, said:

Checking in-

I'm not sure what the sudden rush to lynch Hanas is about. Now while I don't think refusing to lynch for days on end is a "fun" idea or what PS had in mind. I'm really not in a rush to jump on a lynch train day 1 when there will be no penalty for the town.

So Omtose and Denul, why the sudden rush to lynch?



View PostEloth, on 28 July 2015 - 05:25 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 July 2015 - 04:58 PM, said:


And Karosis's calling out of the Nephilim (who are typically referred to as offspring of fallen angels and human women) which if I understand this game correctly would be the scum.

View PostKarosis, on 28 July 2015 - 03:10 AM, said:

So the Nephilim have risen again?



If we are going to consider Karosis then you need to add Telas, as he had the diablo dice reference that could of been them signaling to each other. Otherwise, it doesn't come off that suspicious to me.

View PostTelas, on 27 July 2015 - 06:21 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 July 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

You find yourselves in a totally original tale of heaven versus hell. Simple-minded humans share the mortal plane with angels and demons, who try to influence them as best they can. The Code states that no direct interference is permitted. Both sides, however, are prone to interpreting the Code more as a set of guidelines than hard and fast rules, and should something happen to awaken their wrath, then it is always humans who will pay first.
You have quite a treasure there in that horadric cube




View PostEloth, on 28 July 2015 - 05:32 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 28 July 2015 - 08:34 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 28 July 2015 - 08:33 AM, said:

View PostDemelain, on 28 July 2015 - 07:44 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 28 July 2015 - 06:13 AM, said:

So...vote night over and over and the game never ends? Sounds great!
Omtose is a few cans short of a crate
It's called a six-pack, biznitches. So we don't vote night and let it time out. Same thing. I believe rule K-11 states that stalemate games are awarded to town!PS, go ahead and post spoilers over now.
Damn you I just said that! at roughly the same time as you.



View PostHanas, on 28 July 2015 - 08:54 AM, said:

Looking for ways for town to win without actually playing the game. I like it. It also puts you both in a positive light from my point of view. Now, in terms of effort I applaud Demelain for making a first move and putting the first vote out there. The only problem with what he's saying is that no one can actually make cases or promote good lynch candidates when the whole field of options have similar MO's. That being said the more content on thread is best for town so with that in mind I'm also willing to vote off one of those lower content people. So I'm willing tovote telas



View PostKarosis, on 28 July 2015 - 05:08 PM, said:

I agree a low poster hunt on day 1 doesn't really make much sense What interests me are the early posts by Liosan, Omtose and Hoods Path about closing the game without a lynch and when there is no night option


The bolded part above is what I didn't like about that conversation. Made me feel a little icky..



If they are scum then they are being guarded. They abstained from voting and didn't land on any side of the fence but made some good observations.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 11:10 AM

The problem I have with Telas is that they take the time to do two longish posts towards the end of day quoting Demelain and his initial vote and Liosan/Hanas quote but ignores the one from Eloth linking him to Karosis and Denul linking him to Karosis which talk about their initial references.

It would be too tidy to think that Telas, Liosan and Karosis are all scum though.


View PostEloth, on 28 July 2015 - 05:25 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 July 2015 - 04:58 PM, said:


And Karosis's calling out of the Nephilim (who are typically referred to as offspring of fallen angels and human women) which if I understand this game correctly would be the scum.

View PostKarosis, on 28 July 2015 - 03:10 AM, said:

So the Nephilim have risen again?



If we are going to consider Karosis then you need to add Telas, as he had the diablo dice reference that could of been them signaling to each other. Otherwise, it doesn't come off that suspicious to me.

View PostTelas, on 27 July 2015 - 06:21 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 July 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

You find yourselves in a totally original tale of heaven versus hell. Simple-minded humans share the mortal plane with angels and demons, who try to influence them as best they can. The Code states that no direct interference is permitted. Both sides, however, are prone to interpreting the Code more as a set of guidelines than hard and fast rules, and should something happen to awaken their wrath, then it is always humans who will pay first.
You have quite a treasure there in that horadric cube



View PostDenul, on 28 July 2015 - 05:30 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 28 July 2015 - 05:25 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 July 2015 - 04:58 PM, said:


And Karosis's calling out of the Nephilim (who are typically referred to as offspring of fallen angels and human women) which if I understand this game correctly would be the scum.

View PostKarosis, on 28 July 2015 - 03:10 AM, said:

So the Nephilim have risen again?



If we are going to consider Karosis then you need to add Telas, as he had the diablo dice reference that could of been them signaling to each other. Otherwise, it doesn't come off that suspicious to me.

View PostTelas, on 27 July 2015 - 06:21 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 July 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

You find yourselves in a totally original tale of heaven versus hell. Simple-minded humans share the mortal plane with angels and demons, who try to influence them as best they can. The Code states that no direct interference is permitted. Both sides, however, are prone to interpreting the Code more as a set of guidelines than hard and fast rules, and should something happen to awaken their wrath, then it is always humans who will pay first.
You have quite a treasure there in that horadric cube



That is a very good point.

So I have down that if Hanas is scum then Hoods path and Arantha are both potential.

If Karosis is scum then Telas is most likely. Whom is the third wheel in that house. Liosan or Omtose?


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 11:10 AM

View PostTelas, on 28 July 2015 - 11:34 PM, said:

I leave for over a day and look what we have here. Still need to catch up on the thread, not going headfirst into jumping on a lynchbandwagon as there's a 30% sucess rate.

View PostDemelain, on 28 July 2015 - 07:44 AM, said:

Fear not, Demelain is here.

Been having some internet issues (currently a range of sites including google are not resolving) so forgive my lack of banter please, forum access may not last.

Cue mildly serious start from me.

There's 10 of us, 5 have roles (2 town, 3 scum.) That gives a 50% chance of hitting a role should we lynch at random. Statistically entirely random lynches should hit scum with a chance of 30% after 1 lynch and 63% after 2 random lynches (although google is as I say out so someone check my math, it is a long time since I did statistics of any form.)

We can go for the entirely random lynch approach. I don't like it though, strikes me as a little too mechanical for this game (or any game)

What else can we do?

We can try jumping on suspected symping but that is chasing shadows with a torch, for reasons I shouldn't need to explain.

It is a long time since we had a low poster hunt, I could get behind the lynching of someone with a low post count and low content - as town we should be thrashing out details of mechanics not waiting on scum to slip up. Although I am the last to check in so realise I'm first on the block here :(

Having said that, now I take a quick glance at those alts with 1 post only (in the order that the forum lists them when you click the number of posts for the thread from the Mafia forum page for those who think there is more logic to it than that)

View PostKarosis, on 28 July 2015 - 03:10 AM, said:

So the Nephilim have risen again?


This quote is what pointed out google was down for me - I think this is some sort of angelic reference but not sure; game flavour related so may or may not be of relevance.

View PostEloth, on 27 July 2015 - 05:28 PM, said:

Second..should count for absolutely nothing..


Essentially a nothing post.

View PostOmtose, on 28 July 2015 - 06:13 AM, said:

So...vote night over and over and the game never ends? Sounds great!


Omtose is a few cans short of a crate

View PostTelas, on 27 July 2015 - 06:21 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 July 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

You find yourselves in a totally original tale of heaven versus hell. Simple-minded humans share the mortal plane with angels and demons, who try to influence them as best they can. The Code states that no direct interference is permitted. Both sides, however, are prone to interpreting the Code more as a set of guidelines than hard and fast rules, and should something happen to awaken their wrath, then it is always humans who will pay first.



You have quite a treasure there in that horadric cube


I at least think I'm sure on this one - Diable reference, the cubes were some sort of quest item I think; were they what you created new/upgraded weapons in?

Telas has, I think, potential as a target - if I'm right in thinking that the cubes were what you created weapons in them they could be putting on thread that they're a weapon in potentia i.e. scum telling the other scum who they are.

I'm going to vote Telas because of that there post but I'd also be happy with Eloth for the essential nothingness of their post.



Vote Telas


For starters, if you're going to use spurious logic to indict me, the least you could do is get your facts straights. The cube from diablO was a utility item. While it did have certain quest uses in terms of creating certain items or portals, it was a utility item. The main purpose of the item was the face it gave you a net increase in inventory space (which was rather limited in the game). It wasn't a weapon.

Secondly while i can agree with the sentiment that hunting low posters is a valid strategy, it isn't as useful this early into the game. I do applaud you for getting the discussion started, and there might be something to be gleamed from the exhcanges above. As such no hard feelings. As far as im concerned you're either a diligent townie or a scheming scum. Time shall tell



View PostTelas, on 28 July 2015 - 11:50 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 28 July 2015 - 06:47 PM, said:

View PostHanas, on 28 July 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:



Do scum usually paint themselves a target for a lynch this early in the game. You think I'm going to come up scum when I'm the loudest voice in the thread?

Even if there was to be a high posting scum the general trend would be for them to blend in, not make any waves and agree with others rather than venture their own opinions.

Logically we had a better shot of hitting scum by prodding those non entities further.

The votes piling up on me are moronic at best. Scum don't need to signal because they know of at least one other scum, if I signalled someone AND was scum then that'd be easily fucking traced back to whoever I supposedly signalled.


Defence based on 'what scum tend to do' AND playing down of signaling cases? Who's playing scummy bingo right now?

Firstly, the best scum play aggressively, and try to control the game, exactly because that isn't typical scum behaviour, and they come off looking town.

Scum are absolutely going to want to signal each other, because it's in their best interests to get as many town lynched as possible before phase two is triggered and town roles come into play.

Having caught up, I'm still happy where my vote is.


This depends on your propensity to risk. By virtue of the fact that everyone is looking for signalling it of itself it's a risky proposition. Furthermore, assuming you are scum, and you know who another scum is, there's only a 1/8 chance of a lynch hurting you. Unless you're telling me these scum are SOOO clever that they could signal each other without anyone noticing it makes no sense to make the attempt. Let the dice roll a few times. Then you can start co ordinating kills when there's less town around.

You're either an idiot, or you're trying to shift attention



View PostTelas, on 29 July 2015 - 02:47 AM, said:

View PostHood, on 29 July 2015 - 02:19 AM, said:

I will be around until time out. If there is a need to move my vote to get a lynch.


why the hurry to get in a lynch? It's not like we're racing against the clock.


I think most of my unease with Telas comes from the way Liosan acted through day one.

As far as I am aware there are 3 players so far that would think it stupid to signal or are just saying that because they did and do not want us to pick up on it.

I say it's stupid to signal, so does Demelain but Telas makes a speech out of it. Does the part I highlighted seem like gloating to anyone else?

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 02:25 PM

View PostHanas, on 29 July 2015 - 11:10 AM, said:

View PostTelas, on 28 July 2015 - 11:34 PM, said:

I leave for over a day and look what we have here. Still need to catch up on the thread, not going headfirst into jumping on a lynchbandwagon as there's a 30% sucess rate.

View PostDemelain, on 28 July 2015 - 07:44 AM, said:

Fear not, Demelain is here.

Been having some internet issues (currently a range of sites including google are not resolving) so forgive my lack of banter please, forum access may not last.

Cue mildly serious start from me.

There's 10 of us, 5 have roles (2 town, 3 scum.) That gives a 50% chance of hitting a role should we lynch at random. Statistically entirely random lynches should hit scum with a chance of 30% after 1 lynch and 63% after 2 random lynches (although google is as I say out so someone check my math, it is a long time since I did statistics of any form.)

We can go for the entirely random lynch approach. I don't like it though, strikes me as a little too mechanical for this game (or any game)

What else can we do?

We can try jumping on suspected symping but that is chasing shadows with a torch, for reasons I shouldn't need to explain.

It is a long time since we had a low poster hunt, I could get behind the lynching of someone with a low post count and low content - as town we should be thrashing out details of mechanics not waiting on scum to slip up. Although I am the last to check in so realise I'm first on the block here :(

Having said that, now I take a quick glance at those alts with 1 post only (in the order that the forum lists them when you click the number of posts for the thread from the Mafia forum page for those who think there is more logic to it than that)

View PostKarosis, on 28 July 2015 - 03:10 AM, said:

So the Nephilim have risen again?


This quote is what pointed out google was down for me - I think this is some sort of angelic reference but not sure; game flavour related so may or may not be of relevance.

View PostEloth, on 27 July 2015 - 05:28 PM, said:

Second..should count for absolutely nothing..


Essentially a nothing post.

View PostOmtose, on 28 July 2015 - 06:13 AM, said:

So...vote night over and over and the game never ends? Sounds great!


Omtose is a few cans short of a crate

View PostTelas, on 27 July 2015 - 06:21 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 July 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

You find yourselves in a totally original tale of heaven versus hell. Simple-minded humans share the mortal plane with angels and demons, who try to influence them as best they can. The Code states that no direct interference is permitted. Both sides, however, are prone to interpreting the Code more as a set of guidelines than hard and fast rules, and should something happen to awaken their wrath, then it is always humans who will pay first.



You have quite a treasure there in that horadric cube


I at least think I'm sure on this one - Diable reference, the cubes were some sort of quest item I think; were they what you created new/upgraded weapons in?

Telas has, I think, potential as a target - if I'm right in thinking that the cubes were what you created weapons in them they could be putting on thread that they're a weapon in potentia i.e. scum telling the other scum who they are.

I'm going to vote Telas because of that there post but I'd also be happy with Eloth for the essential nothingness of their post.



Vote Telas


For starters, if you're going to use spurious logic to indict me, the least you could do is get your facts straights. The cube from diablO was a utility item. While it did have certain quest uses in terms of creating certain items or portals, it was a utility item. The main purpose of the item was the face it gave you a net increase in inventory space (which was rather limited in the game). It wasn't a weapon.

Secondly while i can agree with the sentiment that hunting low posters is a valid strategy, it isn't as useful this early into the game. I do applaud you for getting the discussion started, and there might be something to be gleamed from the exhcanges above. As such no hard feelings. As far as im concerned you're either a diligent townie or a scheming scum. Time shall tell



View PostTelas, on 28 July 2015 - 11:50 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 28 July 2015 - 06:47 PM, said:

View PostHanas, on 28 July 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

Do scum usually paint themselves a target for a lynch this early in the game. You think I'm going to come up scum when I'm the loudest voice in the thread?

Even if there was to be a high posting scum the general trend would be for them to blend in, not make any waves and agree with others rather than venture their own opinions.

Logically we had a better shot of hitting scum by prodding those non entities further.

The votes piling up on me are moronic at best. Scum don't need to signal because they know of at least one other scum, if I signalled someone AND was scum then that'd be easily fucking traced back to whoever I supposedly signalled.


Defence based on 'what scum tend to do' AND playing down of signaling cases? Who's playing scummy bingo right now?

Firstly, the best scum play aggressively, and try to control the game, exactly because that isn't typical scum behaviour, and they come off looking town.

Scum are absolutely going to want to signal each other, because it's in their best interests to get as many town lynched as possible before phase two is triggered and town roles come into play.

Having caught up, I'm still happy where my vote is.


This depends on your propensity to risk. By virtue of the fact that everyone is looking for signalling it of itself it's a risky proposition. Furthermore, assuming you are scum, and you know who another scum is, there's only a 1/8 chance of a lynch hurting you. Unless you're telling me these scum are SOOO clever that they could signal each other without anyone noticing it makes no sense to make the attempt. Let the dice roll a few times. Then you can start co ordinating kills when there's less town around.

You're either an idiot, or you're trying to shift attention



View PostTelas, on 29 July 2015 - 02:47 AM, said:

View PostHood, on 29 July 2015 - 02:19 AM, said:

I will be around until time out. If there is a need to move my vote to get a lynch.


why the hurry to get in a lynch? It's not like we're racing against the clock.


I think most of my unease with Telas comes from the way Liosan acted through day one.

As far as I am aware there are 3 players so far that would think it stupid to signal or are just saying that because they did and do not want us to pick up on it.

I say it's stupid to signal, so does Demelain but Telas makes a speech out of it. Does the part I highlighted seem like gloating to anyone else?


Wouldn't it be funny if the huge bolded text about signalling is in fact signalling?

Apart from this I still think my early hypothesis about that sudden obsession with ending day is valid. I didn't get to follow it up earlier but, I mean to.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 02:38 PM

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 02:47 PM

So, if we are going to look at potential candidates for a lynch, I think we need to take a look at Demelain. With only two posts, one non-edit post, he has effectively control the thread moving the majority of the focus to Telas. Second, in a couple of games the "real life problem sorry can't post" excuse was used and worked well for scum so now we won't think badly about him for not posting too often. That was he can promote a low posters hunt while being one.

As far as signaling, scum may or may not be doing it. Either way, scum tend to like to pat each other on the back and second ideas that will get the thread moving in the right direction. It's like they can't help it.

As an aside, I'd also like to site the overuse of the word moronic in the last day.. I do not think I've ever read that word so much. If I was a suspicous person, I'd think it some kind of weird signaling. :(

View PostDemelain, on 28 July 2015 - 07:44 AM, said:

Fear not, Demelain is here.Been having some internet issues (currently a range of sites includi ng google are not resolving) so forgive my lack of banter please, forum access may not last.Cue mildly serious start from me.There's 10 of us, 5 have roles (2 town, 3 scum.) That gives a 50% chance of hitting a role should we lynch at random. Statistically entirely random lynches should hit scum with a chance of 30% after 1 lynch and 63% after 2 random lynches (although google is as I say out so someone check my math, it is a long time since I did statistics of any form.)We can go for the entirely random lynch approach. I don't like it though, strikes me as a little too mechanical for this game (or any game)What else can we do?We can try jumping on suspected symping but that is chasing shadows with a torch, for reasons I shouldn't need to explain.It is a long time since we had a low poster hunt, I could get behind the lynching of someone with a low post count and low content - as town we should be thrashing out details of mechanics not waiting on scum to slip up. Although I am the last to check in so realise I'm first on the block here :pHaving said that, now I take a quick glance at those alts with 1 post only (in the order that the forum lists them when you click the number of posts for the thread from the Mafia forum page for those who think there is more logic to it than that)
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I'm going to vote Telas because of that there post but I'd also be happy with Eloth for the essential nothingness of their post.Vote Telas


I'm not going to discount Telas, as scum..or Hanas. It's early in the day so I'm going to feel out the thread on this idea. Maybe it's completely cracked but I think it has some merit..

Vote Demelain

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