[cerveza_fiesta]

@ blend & d'rek

-out of office reply-

I, Chairman Vannov am currently indisposed as I am traveling to Rigel segundus for ritual succession by combat with the war-addled brute Chancellor Wennek.

I expect to be back in the office as soon as I have crushed the last fragment of his idiotic skull into the arena floor, however long that takes.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 07:34 PM, said:

D, on 23 February 2015 - 07:00 PM, said:

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 06:27 PM, said:

MESSAGE TO: DECENDANTS OF DRACO

FROM: SEVEN OF NINE OF THE MECHANEMA

WE REQUEST ACTIVITY SCHEDULE LOG OF INTERCEPTOR LOCATED IN SECTOR 102 ALIAS POLLUX. WE FORSEE POSSIBLE CONFLICT WITH SAID UNIT. CONFLICT BETWEEN DECENDANTS OF DRACO & MECHANEMA DOES NOT EQUAL OPTIMUM BENEFIT FOR EITHER SPECIES. PLEASE RESPOND....

*tries to type response*

*ghost fingers pass through keyboard*

"Hsssssst. How frusstratingg."



Anyways, I'm going to use it to influence the ancients next to Gnaw.

Gnaw, on 23 February 2015 - 07:15 PM, said:

D, on 23 February 2015 - 07:00 PM, said:

Anyways, I'm going to use it to influence the ancients next to Gnaw.

The Forests are shocked. Completely unforeseen. Really didn't see that coming.



Edit: should the Orion break diplo, will you be my friend?

MESSAGE TO:DECENDANTS OF DRACO, PLANTA

FROM: SEVEN OF NINE OF THE MECHANEMA

RELOCATION OF MECHAMENA FLEET TO SECTOR 211 ALIAS BETA AQUILAE WILL COMMENCE UPON NEXT ACTION. THIS CONFLICTS WITH DECENDANTS OF DRACO'S INTENEDED ACTION. TRADE RELATIONS TO BE OFFERED TO OVERMIND OF PLANTA PRECEDING THE CLAIMING OF SECTOR. REQUESTING UPDATED SCHEDULE OF ACTIVITIES FOR DECENDANT OF DRACO'S INTERCEPTOR LOCATION 102 ALIAS POLLUX.

Oh, you should've said something! Hmm, I guess I don't *need* Beta Aquilae, if you're going to go there and harass Gnaw instead of me. But it would be nice if I could have it for a few turns.

I'm willing to negotiate some terms.

[D'rek]

cerveza_fiesta, on 23 February 2015 - 07:49 PM, said:

@ blend & d'rek

-out of office reply-

I, Chairman Vannov am currently indisposed as I am traveling to Rigel segundus for ritual succession by combat with the war-addled brute Chancellor Wennek.

I expect to be back in the office as soon as I have crushed the last fragment of his idiotic skull into the arena floor, however long that takes.

Hssssst. Sssend a sspace carrier pigeon infforming the chairman that we wwould gladly dissposse of the remnantss in a mossst unfitting manner. And, hssssst, upload the footage to SpaceTube.

[twelve]

D, on 23 February 2015 - 07:51 PM, said:

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 07:34 PM, said:

D, on 23 February 2015 - 07:00 PM, said:

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 06:27 PM, said:

MESSAGE TO: DECENDANTS OF DRACO

FROM: SEVEN OF NINE OF THE MECHANEMA

WE REQUEST ACTIVITY SCHEDULE LOG OF INTERCEPTOR LOCATED IN SECTOR 102 ALIAS POLLUX. WE FORSEE POSSIBLE CONFLICT WITH SAID UNIT. CONFLICT BETWEEN DECENDANTS OF DRACO & MECHANEMA DOES NOT EQUAL OPTIMUM BENEFIT FOR EITHER SPECIES. PLEASE RESPOND....

*tries to type response*

*ghost fingers pass through keyboard*

"Hsssssst. How frusstratingg."



Anyways, I'm going to use it to influence the ancients next to Gnaw.

Gnaw, on 23 February 2015 - 07:15 PM, said:

D, on 23 February 2015 - 07:00 PM, said:

Anyways, I'm going to use it to influence the ancients next to Gnaw.

The Forests are shocked. Completely unforeseen. Really didn't see that coming.



Edit: should the Orion break diplo, will you be my friend?

MESSAGE TO:DECENDANTS OF DRACO, PLANTA

FROM: SEVEN OF NINE OF THE MECHANEMA

RELOCATION OF MECHAMENA FLEET TO SECTOR 211 ALIAS BETA AQUILAE WILL COMMENCE UPON NEXT ACTION. THIS CONFLICTS WITH DECENDANTS OF DRACO'S INTENEDED ACTION. TRADE RELATIONS TO BE OFFERED TO OVERMIND OF PLANTA PRECEDING THE CLAIMING OF SECTOR. REQUESTING UPDATED SCHEDULE OF ACTIVITIES FOR DECENDANT OF DRACO'S INTERCEPTOR LOCATION 102 ALIAS POLLUX.

Oh, you should've said something! Hmm, I guess I don't *need* Beta Aquilae, if you're going to go there and harass Gnaw instead of me. But it would be nice if I could have it for a few turns.

I'm willing to negotiate some terms.

MESSAGE TO: DECENDANTS OF DRACO

FROM SEVEN OF NINE OF THE MECHANEMA

ECONOMIC STABILITY OF NATION NECESSITATES THE MECHANEMA NOT DIVIATE FROM CURRENT COURSE OF ACTIONS.

[Tattersail_]

you know when i looked over the board and map abd realised i needed to fight that ancient to get anywhere this game I thought i was screwed.

Then i thought I would be able to grab the research development early if i pass early enough and flip some ships. Thatd enable me yo get the tech to kill the ancient.

no one else was in a position to grab the science development before me until Khell grabbed the trade fleet one.

so i humbly ask for my Magellan cousin to leave me the development and in return ill keep his enemies busy.

Tattersail_, on 23 February 2015 - 03:29 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 23 February 2015 - 12:50 PM, said:

i am back!

Build 2 cruisers in my tier 1 hex please.

This was predicted and it makes sense early on for you. I am going to say it once though. Be prepared for a full game of battles if you come for me. If it goes the way I'm predicting you will not want to face me come round 3.

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 04:58 PM, said:

Blend, on 23 February 2015 - 04:50 PM, said:

D, on 23 February 2015 - 04:43 PM, said:

Yeah, I've certainly been thinking about the same. Depends a lot on if/who we could get as a third member of the alliance, too. If it were Khell we could use the warp portal for our own good and I could probably concentrate on holding off Twelve and Gnaw while you two pincer southward and westward.

Could work... or might not at all.

Or CF comes on board and we powerhouse attack in all directions, you against Khell, CF southwards and me either northeast, against the GC or against Tapper.

Again, could work... or might fail miserably

If I ally with you, do I still have to fight ancients? The reason I ask is that an alliance with you would only help me if I could use it to move my troops around the map more easily, but if I still have to fight the ancients, I'd basically HAVE to go through Khell to get anywhere else in the galaxy.

Yes allies would have to fight the ancients but as D'rek owns the hex you wouldn't gain the discovery tiles under them.

Gnaw, on 23 February 2015 - 06:00 PM, said:

The Forests are nearly unanimous in their prediction that the Granite Ones will buy the Research Station. They dare not leave it until round 3.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 08:20 PM, said:

MESSAGE TO: DECENDANTS OF DRACO

FROM SEVEN OF NINE OF THE MECHANEMA

ECONOMIC STABILITY OF NATION NECESSITATES THE MECHANEMA NOT DIVIATE FROM CURRENT COURSE OF ACTIONS.

I DONT KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

[twelve]

D, on 23 February 2015 - 08:30 PM, said:

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 08:20 PM, said:

MESSAGE TO: DECENDANTS OF DRACO

FROM SEVEN OF NINE OF THE MECHANEMA

ECONOMIC STABILITY OF NATION NECESSITATES THE MECHANEMA NOT DIVIATE FROM CURRENT COURSE OF ACTIONS.

I DONT KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

TRANSLATION

WE THE MECHANEMA WILL PROCEED TO CLAIM SECTOR 211. IF DECENDANTS OF DRACO WISH TO CLAIM THE SECTOR THEY WILL HAVE TO BEST US IN A MILITARY CONTEST.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 08:34 PM, said:

D, on 23 February 2015 - 08:30 PM, said:

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 08:20 PM, said:

MESSAGE TO: DECENDANTS OF DRACO

FROM SEVEN OF NINE OF THE MECHANEMA

ECONOMIC STABILITY OF NATION NECESSITATES THE MECHANEMA NOT DIVIATE FROM CURRENT COURSE OF ACTIONS.

I DONT KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

TRANSLATION

WE THE MECHANEMA WILL PROCEED TO CLAIM SECTOR 211. IF DECENDANTS OF DRACO WISH TO CLAIM THE SECTOR THEY WILL HAVE TO BEST US IN A MILITARY CONTEST.

I was trying to be nice... asking when you were moving to the sector and seeing what options exist, suggesting cooperation, blah blah blah. All I get back is "WE ARE MOVING TO THE SECTOR WE ARE MOVING TO THE SECTOR WE ARE MOVING TO THE SECTOR". Not very tactful. Who knows, maybe if you actually shared any information I would take steps not to get in your way.

[Galactic Council]

Imperial Historian, on 23 February 2015 - 05:58 PM, said:

I'll put in a provisional now to upgrade my dread with one hull.

noted

[twelve]

D, on 23 February 2015 - 08:39 PM, said:

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 08:34 PM, said:

D, on 23 February 2015 - 08:30 PM, said:

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 08:20 PM, said:

MESSAGE TO: DECENDANTS OF DRACO

FROM SEVEN OF NINE OF THE MECHANEMA

ECONOMIC STABILITY OF NATION NECESSITATES THE MECHANEMA NOT DIVIATE FROM CURRENT COURSE OF ACTIONS.

I DONT KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

TRANSLATION

WE THE MECHANEMA WILL PROCEED TO CLAIM SECTOR 211. IF DECENDANTS OF DRACO WISH TO CLAIM THE SECTOR THEY WILL HAVE TO BEST US IN A MILITARY CONTEST.

I was trying to be nice... asking when you were moving to the sector and seeing what options exist, suggesting cooperation, blah blah blah. All I get back is "WE ARE MOVING TO THE SECTOR WE ARE MOVING TO THE SECTOR WE ARE MOVING TO THE SECTOR". Not very tactful. Who knows, maybe if you actually shared any information I would take steps not to get in your way.

You are being nice. And apparently I really suck at the whole roleplaying thing. I thought I was being clear as well. I'm open to options that doesn't include me taking that hex but I looked and looked at my options and I just don't have all that many choices. I have to go out of my way and take a risk in attacking that hex as it is for a chance to gain some flexibility for the upcoming rounds. I could try and gobble up the three discovery tiles in the hopes that it gives me something I can use to help position myself better but that is a gamble on random chance. This way I can gain a very useful hex and gain diplomacy with another player and still not completely burn any bridges in the process. I think Gnaw isn't thrilled about either option of me taking discovery tiles or that hex but with him getting some quality hexes its not like I'm seriously hurting his growth potential.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 09:34 PM, said:

D, on 23 February 2015 - 08:39 PM, said:

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 08:34 PM, said:

D, on 23 February 2015 - 08:30 PM, said:

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 08:20 PM, said:

MESSAGE TO: DECENDANTS OF DRACO

FROM SEVEN OF NINE OF THE MECHANEMA

ECONOMIC STABILITY OF NATION NECESSITATES THE MECHANEMA NOT DIVIATE FROM CURRENT COURSE OF ACTIONS.

I DONT KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

TRANSLATION

WE THE MECHANEMA WILL PROCEED TO CLAIM SECTOR 211. IF DECENDANTS OF DRACO WISH TO CLAIM THE SECTOR THEY WILL HAVE TO BEST US IN A MILITARY CONTEST.

I was trying to be nice... asking when you were moving to the sector and seeing what options exist, suggesting cooperation, blah blah blah. All I get back is "WE ARE MOVING TO THE SECTOR WE ARE MOVING TO THE SECTOR WE ARE MOVING TO THE SECTOR". Not very tactful. Who knows, maybe if you actually shared any information I would take steps not to get in your way.

You are being nice. And apparently I really suck at the whole roleplaying thing. I thought I was being clear as well. I'm open to options that doesn't include me taking that hex but I looked and looked at my options and I just don't have all that many choices. I have to go out of my way and take a risk in attacking that hex as it is for a chance to gain some flexibility for the upcoming rounds. I could try and gobble up the three discovery tiles in the hopes that it gives me something I can use to help position myself better but that is a gamble on random chance. This way I can gain a very useful hex and gain diplomacy with another player and still not completely burn any bridges in the process. I think Gnaw isn't thrilled about either option of me taking discovery tiles or that hex but with him getting some quality hexes its not like I'm seriously hurting his growth potential.

Alright. Well I've still got a move action to do because I want to move my other interceptor, seems a shame not to do something useful with the Pollux one. How many interceptors do you need to move to Aquilae? If I can delay my move after yours are past I can just grab one of the nebula discoveries but not influence Aquilae. Gives me a good tiny bit of insurance later on, too, against ships in Aquilae suddenly coming around that corner at me (having Aquilae as a bit of a buffer against my middle sectors was part of why I wanted it in the first place, after all).

[twelve]

I'm moving at least three into that hex. I am using the forth to grab a nebula discovery tile. I'm trying to hedge my bets a bit here and if I don't get at least 2 of the nebula discovery tiles I'll be highly disappointed. So it sounds like I will have to move my fourth interceptor next to Pollux to prevent you from sniping that one. Not what I was wanting to do but sounds like it's a must now.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 23 February 2015 - 10:03 PM, said:

I'm moving at least three into that hex. I am using the forth to grab a nebula discovery tile. I'm trying to hedge my bets a bit here and if I don't get at least 2 of the nebula discovery tiles I'll be highly disappointed. So it sounds like I will have to move my fourth interceptor next to Pollux to prevent you from sniping that one. Not what I was wanting to do but sounds like it's a must now.

Hey, it's not my fault you placed the nebulas all weird with a discovery right next to me. And when you choose to go two rounds without jumping on the discoveries quickly, why would you be upset by others going for them? If you wanted them so bad you probably could have had all 4 by acting quicker. But you made a choice not to.

[D'rek]

Either way, Twelve, you probably aren't going to get 2 discoveries, definitely not 3. Block me and Gnaw will move his interceptor again to grab another.

...then again you've spent all your materials and as you noted earlier this maneuver is going to tax you something fierce. He has neutron bombs, maybe he just waits for your moves to be done and sends that interceptor to your homeworld

[twelve]

D, on 23 February 2015 - 10:17 PM, said:

Either way, Twelve, you probably aren't going to get 2 discoveries, definitely not 3. Block me and Gnaw will move his interceptor again to grab another.

...then again you've spent all your materials and as you noted earlier this maneuver is going to tax you something fierce. He has neutron bombs, maybe he just waits for your moves to be done and sends that interceptor to your homeworld

That thought has definitely crossed my mind.

[Gnaw]

Trees and mythology

Spoiler

• Alder -- Forest green cloth dye of forest workers and outlaws, and from which humans were first carved into life.
• Ash -- Cupid's arrows, protection from evil creatures, and tree of rebirth.
• Beech -- Ships (like the Argo of Greek myth) and wine bowls. Materials
  
• Birch -- Symbol of health, wisdom, safety, public office, inception, and consolidated power. Use for baby furniture.
• Catalpa -- One of four primary trees of the gods in China.
• Cedar -- Trees of paradise, good fortune and faithful lovers. Money
  
• Chestnut -- Provider of food, and a temple tree in China.
• Dogwood -- The wood of spear and arrows.
• Elder -- Tree of protective female household gods.
• Elm -- Tree of sleep.
• Fig -- Tree of wisdom, of mythical bridges, and of creation.
• Hawthorn -- An unlucky tree, tree of enforced chastity and female scent.
• Hazel -- Container of wisdom and divination, and protection against lightning. Science
  
• Hemlock -- One of four primary trees of the gods in China.
• Holly -- Holy, white wood.
• Juniper -- Protection against thieves, witches and evil.
• Larch -- Tree of ships, bridges, and of the creation of man in Siberia.
• Laurel -- Protection from illness.
• Mango -- Tree of immortality.
• Maple -- The emblem of reserve.
• Mountain Ash -- Protection against witches and lightning.
• Oak -- Tree of strength
• Olive -- Tree of security and peace. Ambassadors
• Pear -- Tree of female baby's birth.
• Persimmon -- Chairs of the gods.
• Pine -- Tree of friendship, friendship in adversity, and one of four primary trees of the gods in China Alliances
• Poplar -- Talking or singing tree.
• Sycamore -- Tree of protection and favors.
• Walnut -- Royal tree and tree of prophesy.
• Willow -- Tree of tears and sorrow, tree of enchantment, and a substitute for Palm Sunday palm fronds.
• Yew -- Tree of the dead, and bow wood.

The Forest Conclave is unruly. Junipers and Mountain Ash clamor for ships to be built and the Vashta Nerada to be readied, the Figs and Hazel counsel patience, and a single Willow sheds tears for the death of the Androzani. The eldest Oak shakes her limbs and silences them all with her advice to let the evil ones fight amongst themselves and remind the Conclave that many a Forest has risen above the bones of dead civilizations.

The Overmind decides that patience will win the day.

[Tapper]

D, on 23 February 2015 - 04:43 PM, said:

Blend, on 23 February 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:

D, on 23 February 2015 - 04:23 PM, said:

This is an interesting position. I border (or almost border) on so many people, and I have the potential to accrue so much income and resources, but with each disc put down or used as an action costing so much it would take me until round 4 or 5 to actually influence and colonize all the spaces I want... and that's with only spending research on Advanced things but not military research. Naturally, no one is going to leave me alone that long. So do I try and scrap together resources and tech to resist, slowing my production gains? Or do I just try and colonize/influence as much as possible and let the systems that get attacked be destroyed? I guess there's a third option of trying to schmooz into an alliance so I don't face so many threats on all sides, too. Hmmmmm.

I'm on the fence right now about whether or not I want to suggest an alliance with you.

I figure if I've got your Ancient Highway protecting one side of my galaxies, I could flood through Khell's backdoor and potentially remove him as one of the thorns in your side. You'd still have a bunch of others to worry about, but I could still be a useful alliance member to have.

But then, there's the general rule of 'stomp D'rek and Twelve' which I should keep in mind. Hmmmmmmmmmm.....

If I don't ally with you, and don't go after Khell, I think I'm eventually going to want/need one or two of the hexes to the south of me that you currently have influenced.

Yeah, I've certainly been thinking about the same. Depends a lot on if/who we could get as a third member of the alliance, too. If it were Khell we could use the warp portal for our own good and I could probably concentrate on holding off Twelve and Gnaw while you two pincer southward and westward.

Could work... or might not at all.

Or CF comes on board and we powerhouse attack in all directions, you against Khell, CF southwards and me either northeast, against the GC or against Tapper.

Again, could work... or might fail miserably

Wait. We play with alliances after all?

[Gnaw]

I thought we were using them

[Tattersail_]

I think people will be more careful entering a full alliance this time due to what's happened the last few games.

Drek back stabbing Khell and Tapper would leave a sour taste for them.

CF destroying Morgoths chance of winning.

Me handicapping IH.

[Imperial Historian]

we didn't make a decision about alliances, but since 9 player isn't really balanced without them I guess we'll have them. Off-thread communication between alliance members is allowed as that slowed things up massively last time.

I'd be ok houseruling not allowing them to form until turn 4 or something, but I think people are a lot more reluctant to enter into alliances after last game.

Especially with d'rek the dirty traitor