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Bulwyf, on 06 April 2016 - 07:12 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 06 April 2016 - 06:58 PM, said:

Traveller, on 06 April 2016 - 06:36 PM, said:

Only just caught up... just watched the shark ep with the reveal at the end. The airing for this show seems all over the place, but it might be due to trying to time the crossover eps with Arrow and Supergirl.

Good reveal; wasn't quite what I expected. I'm not sure that he can be the same as the one that has been helping, as it doesn't really make sense.

The schedule switching seems to be a combination of the shooting schedule, and pushing stuff around for holidays and into May Sweeps. The latter point is the bigger one as it's a dinosaur from the days of 1970's and 1980's "appointment" TV (basically the pre-VCR days when if you missed something you were screwed so if you wanted to watch you had to be home that night on that day at that time)...and how Neilsen dealt with ratings, those months were the biggest report months, so networks always would have holes in the schedule earlier in the season to push the big last few eps into those months and nail those ratings reports.

None of that means jack these days with the PVR, online, streaming ect. We can choose when we watch stuff, and as a result the whole Sweeps thing is useless, but networks still do it for some reason.

Then there was whatever show first did the whole "Winter Hiatus" bullshit first, and led the pack in that. Now we have something like 80% of shows going on like a two month hiatus in the winter months. I think it may be the Walking Dead of Breaking Bad which was responsible for that break...but whoever it was, I hate them. LOL

I think they actually do those breaks because they are filming the second half of the season while the first half is starting to air, so they have time for post production, also so they can air reruns while the viewer isn't "tuned out" of the date & time, if the show is over it's off your radar to check if a new episode is on.

Oh yeah, that's totally a part of it too, but the ratings sweeps holiday thing is a bigger part of it I think.

[Binder of Demons]

a lot of the split season bullshit seems to have come about as a result of the Hollywood writers strike a few years back. That threw a real wrench into the schedules and gave them the idea that they could make the mid-season breaks longer, or even have half seasons.

Some of the other gaps come from things like not wanting to clash with sporting events that were actually shown on the network channels.

But now I'd say it's a combination of all the above.

[Bulwyf]

Is it just me, or does it bug anyone else the inconsistency of how they treat Earth 2?

You can have a counterpart there, or maybe not. You could have powers here and not there, or vice versa.
Bara doesn't have powers in earth 2 for example.

...but they seem certain that Cisco and reverb are identical...

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Bulwyf, on 21 April 2016 - 04:34 PM, said:

Is it just me, or does it bug anyone else the inconsistency of how they treat Earth 2?

You can have a counterpart there, or maybe not. You could have powers here and not there, or vice versa.
Bara doesn't have powers in earth 2 for example.

...but they seem certain that Cisco and reverb are identical...

Meh, it's not a big deal to me. With Cisco they only discovered Reverb on Earth-2 after he knew about his initial vibe power...so it serves to reason that what Reverb can do, Cisco can also do. If Cisco hadn't already exhibited that initial power, I could see that point.

It's typical multi-versal stuff. It's never going to be perfect, but they mostly stick the landings.

[QuickTidal]

Season 2 finale!

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That was a pretty great ep for a finale (not as good as last years finale, but that would have been hard to top), and I called the man in the iron mask as Earth 3 Jay Garrick/Flash played by John Wesley Shipp! But I think the best bit? Barry angrily saving his mother from Reverse Flash....and we have FLASHPOINT people! Either Season 3 will be ALL Flashpoint, or partially....but I guarantee that when the show returns Barry won't be remembered, won't have his powers, and Captain Cold will be the hero of Central city, ect. And instead of Thomas Wayne as Batman (where Bruce died instead of his parents) like in the comic version, they can go with Oliver Queen having died on the island and his father still alive and the Arrow.

Man, next season should be amazing!

[Bulwyf]

QuickTidal, on 25 May 2016 - 01:19 PM, said:

Season 2 finale!

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That was a pretty great ep for a finale (not as good as last years finale, but that would have been hard to top), and I called the man in the iron mask as Earth 3 Jay Garrick/Flash played by John Wesley Shipp! But I think the best bit? Barry angrily saving his mother from Reverse Flash....and we have FLASHPOINT people! Either Season 3 will be ALL Flashpoint, or partially....but I guarantee that when the show returns Barry won't be remembered, won't have his powers, and Captain Cold will be the hero of Central city, ect. And instead of Thomas Wayne as Batman (where Bruce died instead of his parents) like in the comic version, they can go with Oliver Queen having died on the island and his father still alive and the Arrow.

Man, next season should be amazing!

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I don't know what FLASHPOINT is, but based on your speculations, next season should be interesting! Also looks like SuperGirl is a go for CW with the commercials during the finale. Maybe Flashes's time medaling merges the two universes. /shrugs

[Coco with marshmallows]

Well considering the president of the network (CW) has stated that

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There's going to be a croxxover of ALL 4 shows at one point: Arrow, Legend, Flash and Supergirl

something like Flashpoint may be considered.


HOWEVER - Personal guess:
Season 3 will be about Barry reversing what he just did in Season 2 finale. Remember when he first went back in time and was warned off saving his mother by himself? That's going to happen in Season 3 i'd guess.

He goes back with the knowledge that he has to let Reverse Flash kill his mother otherwise everything is F*****

[Traveller]

QuickTidal, on 25 May 2016 - 01:19 PM, said:

Season 2 finale!

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That was a pretty great ep for a finale (not as good as last years finale, but that would have been hard to top), and I called the man in the iron mask as Earth 3 Jay Garrick/Flash played by John Wesley Shipp! But I think the best bit? Barry angrily saving his mother from Reverse Flash....and we have FLASHPOINT people! Either Season 3 will be ALL Flashpoint, or partially....but I guarantee that when the show returns Barry won't be remembered, won't have his powers, and Captain Cold will be the hero of Central city, ect. And instead of Thomas Wayne as Batman (where Bruce died instead of his parents) like in the comic version, they can go with Oliver Queen having died on the island and his father still alive and the Arrow.

Man, next season should be amazing!

Yikes.

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I can't believe he just did that, after all the warnings - he even got to see his past self revisiting the scene and NOT interfering - literally disappear as he sticks the timeline on a different course. I don't know what Flashpoint is either, but I guess next season is a parallel universe/timeline with all the same characters in different places.

I'm a bit bummed that he did that as he's already been there before and learned not to... but I guess it's a good way to start a new season. (Also old Jay looked totally out of place in that suit and hat - he could hardly move! Was he still earth 2 Barrys Dad?)

This post has been edited by Traveller: 01 June 2016 - 06:17 AM

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Traveller, on 01 June 2016 - 06:17 AM, said:

QuickTidal, on 25 May 2016 - 01:19 PM, said:

Season 2 finale!

Spoiler

That was a pretty great ep for a finale (not as good as last years finale, but that would have been hard to top), and I called the man in the iron mask as Earth 3 Jay Garrick/Flash played by John Wesley Shipp! But I think the best bit? Barry angrily saving his mother from Reverse Flash....and we have FLASHPOINT people! Either Season 3 will be ALL Flashpoint, or partially....but I guarantee that when the show returns Barry won't be remembered, won't have his powers, and Captain Cold will be the hero of Central city, ect. And instead of Thomas Wayne as Batman (where Bruce died instead of his parents) like in the comic version, they can go with Oliver Queen having died on the island and his father still alive and the Arrow.

Man, next season should be amazing!

Yikes.

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I can't believe he just did that, after all the warnings - he even got to see his past self revisiting the scene and NOT interfering - literally disappear as he sticks the timeline on a different course. I don't know what Flashpoint is either, but I guess next season is a parallel universe/timeline with all the same characters in different places.

I'm a bit bummed that he did that as he's already been there before and learned not to... but I guess it's a good way to start a new season. (Also old Jay looked totally out of place in that suit and hat - he could hardly move! Was he still earth 2 Barrys Dad?)

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What's cool about FLASHPOINT is that Barry himself can't believe he did it either...and so he doesn't. Once he does this and the timeine resets with Nora Allen alive...the Barry we know basically is in his own timeline but no one remembers him as the Flash or a hero at all...and HE thinks it was the Reverse Flash who did it somehow, only to learn later (FROM the Reverse Flash) that it was his own selfishness that alterned the timeline. It's a paradox too, and everything is wrong...and needs fixed.

[Traveller]

Is that something that will be resolved fairly early on, or will the whole season be taken up trying to

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reach a point where he goes back yet again when he realises his mother has to die?

I just read an article about how Zoom is now the Black Flash

This post has been edited by Traveller: 01 June 2016 - 11:35 AM

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Traveller, on 01 June 2016 - 11:34 AM, said:

Is that something that will be resolved fairly early on, or will the whole season be taken up trying to

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reach a point where he goes back yet again when he realises his mother has to die?

I just read an article about how Zoom is now the Black Flash

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They could go either way to be honest (though a whole season would be a LOT of time to fill up with that), but I'll wager it's a half season conundrum which gives all the FP storylines (Cap Cold as a hero of the city, Green Arrow is Oliver's father, and most other heroes are villains) room to breathe. And I THINK, if LEGENDS OF TOMORROW is any indication they will also build to a huge crossover event including the Justice Society of America (Rex Tyler AKA Hourman, showed up on that finale...and the real Jay Garrick would be a member too)

As to Black Flash, yeah, the CGI shots of Zoom becoming skeletal as he dies really do seem to indicate he will become the Black Flash...AKA the Grim Reaper for Speedsters.

[Coco with marshmallows]

interesting.

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No way they go full Flashpoint then.

Oliver's dad as Arrow?

What's going to be happening to Arrow then? Just completely change it up as well?

Could see Captain Cold as a hero, especially as Wentworth Miller has signed a multi show deal to go across ALL the CW shows - maybe even have an Arrow/captain cold crossover episode with him being a hero there too.

[Abyss]

All caught up.
Overall a solid season, I enjoyed Zoom as a villain, the supporting cast was great, lots of fun nods to the comic, a giant shark man, some real challenges for Barry. Earth 2 was a fun plot point mostly well used. Wally became less irritating, so did Iris tho i still think she and Barry have all the chemistry of a grade three science class.


Thought the finale was lame.Zoom went from effctive sociopathic world conqueror to Saturday morning cartoon villain ("must prove I'm th fastest and DESTROY THE UNIVERSE mwahahahahahaha), the team's clever plan could not have been more doomed to fail if they had called it their Master Fail Plan, and the whole time double thing was silly.

Shipp looked ridiculous and uncomfortable in that costume and not in an intended way.


Am looking fwd to the consequences of Barry's actions at the end. Am still in for next season.

[champ]

First episode of Season 3 is titled...

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Flashpoint

Let the fun begin!

[Blend]

Tom Felton (aka Draco Malfoy) will be a series regular for Season 3!


AWWWWW YISSSS!!!!!

[QuickTidal]

First (proper) ep of the big crossover INVASION was excellent. Note: SUPERGIRL is the TECHNICAL beginning of it, but the only crossover bits come in the last two minutes and are repeated in their entirety on FLASH itself....so in case you don't choose to watch SUPERGIRL you will miss absolutely nothing of the crossover.

The only thing I'm getting annoyed by is Cisco and Barry still being at odds because of Flashpoint and Dante dying in this timeline. Like I get it Cisco, you're pissed...but dial back the anger. The lack of bro-ness happening between those two is beginning to get a bit overly weary for me.

But man, this was team up-errific!

Certain members don't get as focused on, but we still have all of ARROW and LEGENDS to give everyone equal time. But yeah, the Dominators plot line so far is cool. It's also neat that Kara mentions that they once came to Krypton and did horrible stuff there.

Also, Mick and Supergirl's convo was the best:

Mick: I'm not gonna call you Supergirl, cause that's stupid.
Supergirl: You could call me Kara.
Mick: Nope. That's stupid too.
Supergirl: So what are you going to call me?
Mick: Skirt.
Supergirl (deadpanning): Really?!
Mick: Yup.

I admit, I LOLed...at Mick's TOTAL lack of awareness...AND at Kara's disbelief that he could be so clueless.

[Primateus]

QuickTidal, on 30 November 2016 - 01:59 PM, said:

First (proper) ep of the big crossover INVASION was excellent. Note: SUPERGIRL is the TECHNICAL beginning of it, but the only crossover bits come in the last two minutes and are repeated in their entirety on FLASH itself....so in case you don't choose to watch SUPERGIRL you will miss absolutely nothing of the crossover.

The only thing I'm getting annoyed by is Cisco and Barry still being at odds because of Flashpoint and Dante dying in this timeline. Like I get it Cisco, you're pissed...but dial back the anger. The lack of bro-ness happening between those two is beginning to get a bit overly weary for me.

But man, this was team up-errific!

Certain members don't get as focused on, but we still have all of ARROW and LEGENDS to give everyone equal time. But yeah, the Dominators plot line so far is cool. It's also neat that Kara mentions that they once came to Krypton and did horrible stuff there.

Also, Mick and Supergirl's convo was the best:

Mick: I'm not gonna call you Supergirl, cause that's stupid.
Supergirl: You could call me Kara.
Mick: Nope. That's stupid too.
Supergirl: So what are you going to call me?
Mick: Skirt.
Supergirl (deadpanning): Really?!
Mick: Yup.

I admit, I LOLed...at Mick's TOTAL lack of awareness...AND at Kara's disbelief that he could be so clueless.

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Also, Hall of FUCKING Justice!

[QuickTidal]

Yeah, I admit that was REALLY more cool than I expected!

[Binder of Demons]

I haven't watched any of Supergirl since the amazingly cringeworthy pilot. Has it actually turned out to be ok?

[Primateus]

Binder of Demons, on 01 December 2016 - 12:33 AM, said:

I haven't watched any of Supergirl since the amazingly cringeworthy pilot. Has it actually turned out to be ok?

I have. Sure, it got better, but not really enough to make it worth your time I think.