[Bulwyf]

PS. I think I may even stop watching Arrow. I watched up to the mid season finale. Good enough stopping point for me I think. Left it on the DVR so we'll see how I feel about it in late January. Hope there's not many Flash crossovers on Arrow in the future that I may miss Guess I could always watch those on demand or something if needed.

FLASH is all good though!

[QuickTidal]

Bulwyf, on 16 December 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

PS. I think I may even stop watching Arrow. I watched up to the mid season finale. Good enough stopping point for me I think. Left it on the DVR so we'll see how I feel about it in late January. Hope there's not many Flash crossovers on Arrow in the future that I may miss Guess I could always watch those on demand or something if needed.

FLASH is all good though!

I don't watch ARROW, for the FLASH/ARROW crossovers, I just watch the one episode of ARROW that I need to so I can see the end of the 2-ep arc. I usually do fine that way.

[QuickTidal]

Really enjoyed the return of the Reverse Flash in this ep. And I like that now we are really seeing the fact that Barry, Zoom, and RF all exist kind of outside time and timelines when in the Speed Force, enough to make RF showing up (even after last seasons sacrifice by Eddie). The idea that time corrects for itself when anomalies or fixed points are screwed with. So my guess is that since Eddie sacrificed himself, someone else in the Thawne timeline must give birth to Eobard as time correcting for itself. I know they talked about a time bubble/bomb...but this makes more sense to me.

[Primateus]

QuickTidal, on 27 January 2016 - 04:07 PM, said:

Really enjoyed the return of the Reverse Flash in this ep. And I like that now we are really seeing the fact that Barry, Zoom, and RF all exist kind of outside time and timelines when in the Speed Force, enough to make RF showing up (even after last seasons sacrifice by Eddie). The idea that time corrects for itself when anomalies or fixed points are screwed with. So my guess is that since Eddie sacrificed himself, someone else in the Thawne timeline must give birth to Eobard as time correcting for itself. I know they talked about a time bubble/bomb...but this makes more sense to me.

Yes, it was a very good episode. RF is a great villain and I'm glad to see he isn't gone "just like that".

also...

Spoiler

So, did Patty just pull an "Iris" and pretty much demanded the truth and when she couldn't have it, she forced it?

[QuickTidal]

Whoa! Earth-2 revelaitons abound in last nights ep.

Aside from the obvious ones

Spoiler

Killer Frost and Deathstorm (Firestorm bad)

There is also the big one.

Spoiler

Earth-2 Cisco Reverb, and is insanely powerful! Wowza. I guess this means that Cisco will finally get some fight time on Earth 1 once he learns all that he can do. I still think Earth-2 Henry is Zoom.

Also

Spoiler

Anyone else think the guy in the mask across from Barry's cell at Zoom's hideout is Earth-1 Henry Allen captured by Earth-2 Henry Allen (if he IS Zoom). I mean we got a phone call to Barry's mom on Earth-2...but not a whisper of Henry aside from a mention by his mom. I think Earth-1 Henry Allen got taken at the beginning of the season by Zoom, and has been in captivity ever since. If I had to guess why....Zoom comes to Earth-1 looking for his counterpart assuming that Earht-1 Henry would ALSO have speed...that he could steal....finds out he doens't, but learns that Barry does. Capture Henry to keep him from telling Barry (but keeping him alive as a failsafe against Barry), and then going after Barry proper.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 10 February 2016 - 03:47 PM

[Primateus]

QuickTidal, on 10 February 2016 - 03:32 PM, said:

Whoa! Earth-2 revelaitons abound in last nights ep.

Aside from the obvious ones

Spoiler

Killer Frost and Deathstorm (Firestorm bad)

There is also the big one.

Spoiler

Earth-2 Cisco Reverb, and is insanely powerful! Wowza. I guess this means that Cisco will finally get some fight time on Earth 1 once he learns all that he can do. I still think Earth-2 Henry is Zoom.

Also

Spoiler

Anyone else think the guy in the mask across from Barry's cell at Zoom's hideout is Earth-1 Henry Allen captured by Earth-2 Henry Allen (if he IS Zoom). I mean we got a phone call to Barry's mom on Earth-2...but not a whisper of Henry aside from a mention by his mom. I think Earth-1 Henry Allen got taken at the beginning of the season by Zoom, and has been in captivity ever since. If I had to guess why....Zoom comes to Earth-1 looking for his counterpart assuming that Earht-1 Henry would ALSO have speed...that he could steal....finds out he doens't, but learns that Barry does. Capture Henry to keep him from telling Barry (but keeping him alive as a failsafe against Barry), and then going after Barry proper.

It has also been pretty much confirmed that

Spoiler

a Flash/Supergirl crossover is not only possible, but pretty much a definite, given the visions of various universes seen in the breach

[Coco with marshmallows]

Soooo many Easter eggs in that episode.

Spoilery rundown that (i think) catches all of them here:
Spoilery review ahoy

[Morgoth]

I've watched through season one of the Flash, and I 've enjoyed it quite a bit. I never could get into Arrow, and I thought Gotham was atrocious, but this was just the right amount of light hearted fun for me to just hang on for the ride. I did find the romance sub-plot with his adopted sister unnecessary, or at least poorly done (and it weirded me out how no one were weirded out by it). The villain was great I thought and the effects surprisingly well done.

I think the full impact of the finale was lost on me because at one point it became impossible for me to ignore my disbelief.

Spoiler

Alright, I can accept that all these people will accept that their reality is erased to save the Flash's mother. It fits the show, the sort of larger than life emotional encounters. I mean, a little tough to accept, but it works. But then we're told there's a non-negligible chance that opening the wormhole will destroy the entire world. And they still chose to go through with it! They're still all; " yeah, this makes sense." And it doesn't fit with the Flash at all. He struggles with every death he cannot prevent. He is continously tormented by any act that can cause harm. He freaked out at his then mentor for sending a violent sociopath to fight a man who would otherwise kill them all. And yet travelling back in time to save his mom, then suddenly he is fine with the entire world being at risk.

[Primateus]

Morgoth, on 19 February 2016 - 09:57 AM, said:

I've watched through season one of the Flash, and I 've enjoyed it quite a bit. I never could get into Arrow, and I thought Gotham was atrocious, but this was just the right amount of light hearted fun for me to just hang on for the ride. I did find the romance sub-plot with his adopted sister unnecessary, or at least poorly done (and it weirded me out how no one were weirded out by it). The villain was great I thought and the effects surprisingly well done.

I think the full impact of the finale was lost on me because at one point it became impossible for me to ignore my disbelief.

Spoiler

Alright, I can accept that all these people will accept that their reality is erased to save the Flash's mother. It fits the show, the sort of larger than life emotional encounters. I mean, a little tough to accept, but it works. But then we're told there's a non-negligible chance that opening the wormhole will destroy the entire world. And they still chose to go through with it! They're still all; " yeah, this makes sense." And it doesn't fit with the Flash at all. He struggles with every death he cannot prevent. He is continously tormented by any act that can cause harm. He freaked out at his then mentor for sending a violent sociopath to fight a man who would otherwise kill them all. And yet travelling back in time to save his mom, then suddenly he is fine with the entire world being at risk.

Yeah, I have to agree with you on that be-spoilered point. That was just one big completely irresponsible decision they took. Not to mention the sheer arrogance and selfishness of doing something so monumentously dangerous where they simply cannot predict the outcome. But the story needed to move forward with that point as it is an established Flash lore event.

[Blend]

So...

Spoiler

Turns out that Zoom is Earth 2 Flash, from the FUTURE!!! To be honest, when Caitlin was working on the Velocities 7 through 9 during "Escape from Earth 2," I had a feeling that it would tie back to Zoom somehow... Didn't say anything though, because it was pretty preposterous, so it was awesome to see that he WAS, in fact, Zoom! Loved that reveal! Also enjoyed last night's episode for the whole Barry has PTSD angle, though I hope that they don't drag the PTSD thing out for too long. King Shark was such a cool bad guy, it'll be fun to see him in future episodes, should it happen again!

[QuickTidal]

Blend, on 24 February 2016 - 05:58 PM, said:

So...

Spoiler

Turns out that Zoom is Earth 2 Flash, from the FUTURE!!! To be honest, when Caitlin was working on the Velocities 7 through 9 during "Escape from Earth 2," I had a feeling that it would tie back to Zoom somehow... Didn't say anything though, because it was pretty preposterous, so it was awesome to see that he WAS, in fact, Zoom! Loved that reveal! Also enjoyed last night's episode for the whole Barry has PTSD angle, though I hope that they don't drag the PTSD thing out for too long. King Shark was such a cool bad guy, it'll be fun to see him in future episodes, should it happen again!

The showrunner said

Spoiler

That Zoom the same Jay Garrick who has been hanging out with the Flash Crew all season. Which explains why he seemed to be not-present at some bigger points. I guess that also means that the Jay who gets run through was a Flash-vibra-fake-image. I think the only thing I'm stuck on is why he Let/helped Barry, Cisco, and Wells go to Earth-2 to rescue Jessie. I can't see a reason he'd have done that, unless he assumed that he could get Barry's speed that way?

[Bulwyf]

Ok, I just watched the last 5ish episodes over 2 nights. Got a lot of catch up on my DVR to do

Spoiler

Someone just said that Zoom is actual Jay f/ the future. I was assuming after the reveal that in his experiments to make himself faster, he accidentally split himself in two. One with speed, one without. The one without not knowing about the other. heh, maybe that's farfetched now. When the prisoner in the mask mentioned "JAY" I obviously started looking into him and tried to see if he could be both ZOOM and Garrick, if they were ever together etc. I guess the future version is a good theory as well. Has that been confirmed somewhere I missed? Or are we still speculating at this point?

[QuickTidal]

Loved the most recent ep. Going back in his own timeline to Wells/Thawne to try to get more speed to beat Zoom...only to have EVERYTHING go south. Just a solid episode start to finish!

Time Wraiths?! Coooooool. Also all the requisite Harry Potter dementor jokes too!

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 31 March 2016 - 01:24 AM

[Bulwyf]

Flash was in the latest episode of Super-Girl. I think the episode aired a week or two ago, just watched it on my DVR.

[QuickTidal]

Bulwyf, on 06 April 2016 - 05:40 PM, said:

Flash was in the latest episode of Super-Girl. I think the episode aired a week or two ago, just watched it on my DVR.

It was a CRAP episode... except for the Flash bits (which were awesome). Supergirl is just a bad show sadly.

I'm bummed that FLASH only JUST came back from a hiatus of a number of weeks...only to go off til Apr 19th again. Boooo. Me wanty FLASH!

[Traveller]

Only just caught up... just watched the shark ep with the reveal at the end. The airing for this show seems all over the place, but it might be due to trying to time the crossover eps with Arrow and Supergirl.

Good reveal; wasn't quite what I expected. I'm not sure that he can be the same as the one that has been helping, as it doesn't really make sense.

[QuickTidal]

Traveller, on 06 April 2016 - 06:36 PM, said:

Only just caught up... just watched the shark ep with the reveal at the end. The airing for this show seems all over the place, but it might be due to trying to time the crossover eps with Arrow and Supergirl.

Good reveal; wasn't quite what I expected. I'm not sure that he can be the same as the one that has been helping, as it doesn't really make sense.

The schedule switching seems to be a combination of the shooting schedule, and pushing stuff around for holidays and into May Sweeps. The latter point is the bigger one as it's a dinosaur from the days of 1970's and 1980's "appointment" TV (basically the pre-VCR days when if you missed something you were screwed so if you wanted to watch you had to be home that night on that day at that time)...and how Neilsen dealt with ratings, those months were the biggest report months, so networks always would have holes in the schedule earlier in the season to push the big last few eps into those months and nail those ratings reports.

None of that means jack these days with the PVR, online, streaming ect. We can choose when we watch stuff, and as a result the whole Sweeps thing is useless, but networks still do it for some reason.

Then there was whatever show first did the whole "Winter Hiatus" bullshit first, and led the pack in that. Now we have something like 80% of shows going on like a two month hiatus in the winter months. I think it may be the Walking Dead of Breaking Bad which was responsible for that break...but whoever it was, I hate them. LOL

[Traveller]

Didn't know anything about sweeps, cheers QT. Just noticed the other week that the Flash had gone.. and there was nothing on the catch up channels; it just went, with no reason that I could see. I just keep an eye on the planner until it reappears on some seemingly random date.

[Bulwyf]

QuickTidal, on 06 April 2016 - 06:58 PM, said:

Traveller, on 06 April 2016 - 06:36 PM, said:

Only just caught up... just watched the shark ep with the reveal at the end. The airing for this show seems all over the place, but it might be due to trying to time the crossover eps with Arrow and Supergirl.

Good reveal; wasn't quite what I expected. I'm not sure that he can be the same as the one that has been helping, as it doesn't really make sense.

The schedule switching seems to be a combination of the shooting schedule, and pushing stuff around for holidays and into May Sweeps. The latter point is the bigger one as it's a dinosaur from the days of 1970's and 1980's "appointment" TV (basically the pre-VCR days when if you missed something you were screwed so if you wanted to watch you had to be home that night on that day at that time)...and how Neilsen dealt with ratings, those months were the biggest report months, so networks always would have holes in the schedule earlier in the season to push the big last few eps into those months and nail those ratings reports.

None of that means jack these days with the PVR, online, streaming ect. We can choose when we watch stuff, and as a result the whole Sweeps thing is useless, but networks still do it for some reason.

Then there was whatever show first did the whole "Winter Hiatus" bullshit first, and led the pack in that. Now we have something like 80% of shows going on like a two month hiatus in the winter months. I think it may be the Walking Dead of Breaking Bad which was responsible for that break...but whoever it was, I hate them. LOL

I think they actually do those breaks because they are filming the second half of the season while the first half is starting to air, so they have time for post production, also so they can air reruns while the viewer isn't "tuned out" of the date & time, if the show is over it's off your radar to check if a new episode is on.

[Bulwyf]

QuickTidal, on 06 April 2016 - 05:54 PM, said:

Bulwyf, on 06 April 2016 - 05:40 PM, said:

Flash was in the latest episode of Super-Girl. I think the episode aired a week or two ago, just watched it on my DVR.

It was a CRAP episode... except for the Flash bits (which were awesome). Supergirl is just a bad show sadly.

I'm bummed that FLASH only JUST came back from a hiatus of a number of weeks...only to go off til Apr 19th again. Boooo. Me wanty FLASH!

Ya, Flash was best part of the show. I still watch Supergirl, but ya, it's not my favorite show, and I don't think it's super terrible, but ya, it's not great by any stretch. I still kind of like it overall though. Better than Arrow!