[Hetan]

Illuyankas, on 11 September 2014 - 09:46 PM, said:

I want ICE to write Dancer's Lament as a pre-Empire book but in secret, and in public pretend it's a touching story of a ballet dancer called Ropunzel putting his life back together after a horrific knee injury leaves him unable to ever dance again, and the subsequent career he takes up in middle management and the co-ownership of a successful cocktail bar with his friends, Kel Anders, Sue Lee and Des Ultron. And I mean posting excerpts with a straight face.

I want to be that person ^^ - I'm currently looking at a new career/life path and you might have just hit the nail on the head

Whisperzzzzzzz, on 12 September 2014 - 02:18 AM, said:

I hadn't yet read FoD, and this is really disappointing

I loved the

Spoiler

Tiste-as-aliens

theory.

Also, you should probably spoiler tag your post.

Hmmm .. it's life, it's Malazan, get over it already? But I think you'll find enough in there to make it a worth while read for ya.

Garak, on 12 September 2014 - 06:49 AM, said:

When is it ever?

and this made me Lol.. .

[Salt-Man Z]

Hetan (Also Actually Possibly Mal), on 11 September 2014 - 09:33 PM, said:

I think in a way that maybe that's what ICE should do - write something for himself.

I'd actually love to see ICE write something non-Malazan. A lot of the grief he gets is for his handling of characters/plots that SE introduced. Getting out of SE's shadow would give people a fresh chance at judging ICE's work on its own terms.

[champ]

If the book is in the form of a novella or more like NoK then I am more confident that ICE can pull this off.

I hope he just lets loose and has fun with the book, bring a bit of that Manask comedy to the book, he's shown he can write a great dual act with Manask and Ipshank so hopefully we get that with Kellanved and Dancer!

I am sure that every fan here thinks of the pre empire days as awesome, ass kicking shenanigans, I hope that is what we're given and not some lame ass revelations that ruin it, think Apt said similar above!

Overall though, more stories of Dancer... awesome!

[Abyss]

I'm in. I'm totally in. ICE has only gotten better and I look fwd to whatever he does with this.

[Defiance]

I thought Night of Knives was boring and found Return of the Crimson Guard to be a complete mess, but otherwise I've enjoyed ICE's work. Looking forward to this one. And that title is damn good.

[Malaclypse]

@Defiance: I don't understand how you can feel that way about NoK but fair play, everyone's entitled etc. I still think it was his best book just due to the pacing, that was some rapid-fire plot advancement! Something that we hadn't seen from Steve as such and I was imagining a Gemmell for the Malazan material and I was really excited about that.

And then RotCG happened - le sigh - my reaction to this book is almost certainly why he doesn't talk to me anymore but goddammit, I could have fixed so much of that stuff and I wasn't even asking for money - grrrr, arrrgh!

But anyway, I agree that Cam is getting better and the crucible that he's been forced to endure is monumental. I don't think I could muster that kind of courage without a desperate need to get my ideas out there and he's done that so I will full-on kowtow to that man next time I see him - not trying to be insulting to him, but it's almost like a fan elevated themself and forced their way into the world - like any of us could do this if we wanted it bad enough. That's the way I feel about Cam though he may not thank me for it

This post has been edited by Malaclypse: 13 September 2014 - 01:42 PM

[Abyss]

How does that line up with the fact that he co created the world w SE?

[Tsundoku]

Well, as prequels go it has to be truly horrendous to be worse than the Star Wars ones.

Just as long as he doesn't contradict what he has already written, observes continuity, writes (and sticks to) a basic one-page coherent timeline and doesn't go all artsy-fartsy with his writing style it should be OK. Fingers crossed. I figure we're safe with the "tries to appeal to a younger age group" thing. I doubt there's much to be made from merchandising either.

[blackzoid]

I've loved/liked all of ICE's books except for RoTCG which I really detested.
But he has come on in massive leaps and bounds since then and I am very happy with where he is now.

This post has been edited by blackzoid: 15 September 2014 - 05:45 PM

[worry]

These guesses mean nothing without real money on the line.

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

Hell yes!

[Saitama]

I'm on the fence. If he will maintain 'Assail' level, then it should be fine. But ICE is an uneven writer, and his track record isn't exactly stellar. Only time will tell.

My second worry is that ICE never really delivered (IMHO) when it comes to epic characters, with a possible exception of Dassem. And Dancer will be very hard to pull off without descending into banality.

[Egwene]

Are we maybe a bit too quick in thinking (hoping ) that this book is about The Dancer?!

After all, there are a lot of others. The book could be about the cult of the Shadow Dancers.

[Aptorian]

The real question we should all be asking ourselves is whether we are human or are we Dancer?

[Illuyankas]

Well if you're not Dancer then you're no friends of mine.

[Andorion]

An extended look at the tragic love life of Lostara Yil and her army of Shadow Dancers?

[Malaclypse]

Apt, on 18 September 2014 - 03:44 PM, said:

The real question we should all be asking ourselves is whether we are human or are we Dancer?

LOL, I always wondered when listening to that song, with a smile, how stoned do you have to be to ask this question?

This post has been edited by Malaclypse: 19 September 2014 - 07:56 AM

[champ]

Apt, on 18 September 2014 - 03:44 PM, said:

The real question we should all be asking ourselves is whether we are human or are we Dancer?

I know one thing... Rhythm is a Dancer!

[Kanubis]

Malaclypse, on 19 September 2014 - 07:55 AM, said:

Apt, on 18 September 2014 - 03:44 PM, said:

The real question we should all be asking ourselves is whether we are human or are we Dancer?

LOL, I always wondered when listening to that song, with a smile, how stoned do you have to be to ask this question?

Apparently the singer gets really pissy about people asking what it means.

Which makes him a twat in my book. Don't make weird lyrics if it's going to bother you.

[IskarJar93]

From what I read in this thread, it seems NoK is worth reading...mumble... will consider that (I had always shunned it before for some reason)