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HoosierDaddy, on 01 August 2014 - 07:35 AM, said:

Obdigore, on 01 August 2014 - 07:25 AM, said:

Nah. Peyton, Brees, and Rodgers are all end of first/beginning of second.

In a 6 point touchdown passing league, QBs are even more valuable.

Otherwise, I'd agree and have gone RB there.

Yeah my cheat sheet initially had all the QBs down a good round later than they should have so I gave the position a bump up. Otherwise I would have gone RB most likely.

[Tattersail_]

WR's are risky aren't they?

Why do more people prefer RB's early?

[Tattersail_]

No would you all agree that to win this, you need to play a good waiver game? Ie make good transfers throughout the season?

I need to work out, how people use this effectively. I always seemed to be low on the waiver wire last year, and HD used a ton of transfers.

[Tattersail_]

Also scoring.

6 points for;

QB - Throwing a TD

RB Running a TD

WR Catching a TD

what is a return TD?

TD = 6 points

Do many 0 points happen? That's good, 10 points just for that.

Makes sense. So each player in the offense can get 6 points. Yet teh QB is more likely to get a throw TD than a WR is to get a catch TD because the QB can through to either receiver.

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 01 August 2014 - 02:09 PM, said:

WR's are risky aren't they?

Why do more people prefer RB's early?

Because most teams have 2 WRs on the field all the time on offense (often three), but very seldom more than 1 RB. So the pool for starting RBs is much, much smaller.

[Tattersail_]

Tapper, on 01 August 2014 - 02:52 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 01 August 2014 - 02:09 PM, said:

WR's are risky aren't they?

Why do more people prefer RB's early?

Because most teams have 2 WRs on the field all the time on offense (often three), but very seldom more than 1 RB. So the pool for starting RBs is much, much smaller.

ie WR's share points in a game but a good RB gets them all to himself?

Good to know. Why only one RB?

Are Bills an exception?

I have left my picks with Shin.

[Vengeance]

Tatt's you did play this game last year didn't you?

[Tattersail_]

Vengeance, on 01 August 2014 - 03:04 PM, said:

Tatt's you did play this game last year didn't you?

I finished bottom didn't I?

Not this year, I want to understand what i am doing

[Tattersail_]

Brujah thought my pick was for both of them, not just the first one. I didn't want to give him my second pick. I will edit it now.

[Stalker]

Any of you guys try an auction draft before and do you think it's a better system?


I'm only familiar with snake and it never seems like the best option, just the easiest. And for us, the only viable choice. Yeah, someone can do well with a late slot but it in early rounds a lot of the best options are gone. Especially by the time it snakes back in the 3rd round. Seems like picks 1-6 tend to be the best location, so I was just curious about other options.

[Tattersail_]

Stalker, on 01 August 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

Any of you guys try an auction draft before and do you think it's a better system?


I'm only familiar with snake and it never seems like the best option, just the easiest. And for us, the only viable choice. Yeah, someone can do well with a late slot but it in early rounds a lot of the best options are gone. Especially by the time it snakes back in the 3rd round. Seems like picks 1-6 tend to be the best location, so I was just curious about other options.

How does an auction draft work?

Have you ever done one where multiple people can have the same player? Basically set a value on them, and make them stick to within a budget?

[Tattersail_]

Venge may have to pick over the weekend

[Stalker]

My understanding is you have a budget, the first person on the board picks a player that he wants (say AP, our first choice) and anyone can bid for him. Winner pays the amount and then it repeats with the second owner picking a player for everyone to bid on.


It seems great in theory, but I wanted to know how it actually works and if it is as fair a system as it seems.

[Vengeance]

Tattersail_, on 01 August 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 01 August 2014 - 03:04 PM, said:

Tatt's you did play this game last year didn't you?

I finished bottom didn't I?

Not this year, I want to understand what i am doing

The best WR last year caught 1646 yards and 9 Td's and scored 227 fantasy points he also rushed for 88 yards.

The best RB last year rushed for 1288 yards and 12 tds. He also caught 693 yards and 7 tds.

If you can get a starting RB who is the only one in the backfield (RB by committy suck as you never know who is going to put up points) you are going to have a better chance of scoring more points consistantly then a WR. Sure the best WR are going to put up points but there are always going to be other WR on a team who can get the ball thrown to them if the star WR is doubled or tripled. Thus it is better to get a Starting RB then a starting WR. Now once the top level of RB are off the market then the top WR are going to give you more bang for your buck. I.e The top WR are going to give you more consistent points then the second level of RBs. But you don't want to miss a second level RB and instead get two top level wr then your going to end up with lv 3 Rb which can kill your team regardless of the level of WR that you have. So while you want to get the best player possible, you also want to try to balance your team out. At a certain point WR ranked higher then the remaining RB and the top TE are ranked higher then both the remaining WR and RB.

Notice that I didn't mention QB's at all because that is a completely different animal. You can only start 1 QB and they usually score more points then everyone else. However the top level of QB's for the most part (last year was an exception) usually stand head and shoulders above everything else. But the second level is pretty consistant and deep. So you can usually wait and get a lv 2 QB and try to pick up a couple of RB and WR or a Top lv TE before you have to grab a lv 2 QB.

As for the Wavior wire it can be a life savor but yes you need to know who to go after and you have to be watching for players to have break out games, injuries to starters, playing defensive match ups and what not.

Does that help.

[Vengeance]

Stalker, on 01 August 2014 - 03:39 PM, said:

My understanding is you have a budget, the first person on the board picks a player that he wants (say AP, our first choice) and anyone can bid for him. Winner pays the amount and then it repeats with the second owner picking a player for everyone to bid on.


It seems great in theory, but I wanted to know how it actually works and if it is as fair a system as it seems.

It is a very fair system. I have only been in one league that did that and it was great. The draft took for ever though and it was live. But still it is all about balancing top level talent and your pocket book.

[Vengeance]

Tattersail_, on 01 August 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

Venge may have to pick over the weekend

Irritating that.

[Tattersail_]

Vengeance, on 01 August 2014 - 03:51 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 01 August 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 01 August 2014 - 03:04 PM, said:

Tatt's you did play this game last year didn't you?

I finished bottom didn't I?

Not this year, I want to understand what i am doing

The best WR last year caught 1646 yards and 9 Td's and scored 227 fantasy points he also rushed for 88 yards.

The best RB last year rushed for 1288 yards and 12 tds. He also caught 693 yards and 7 tds.

If you can get a starting RB who is the only one in the backfield (RB by committy suck as you never know who is going to put up points) you are going to have a better chance of scoring more points consistantly then a WR. Sure the best WR are going to put up points but there are always going to be other WR on a team who can get the ball thrown to them if the star WR is doubled or tripled. Thus it is better to get a Starting RB then a starting WR. Now once the top level of RB are off the market then the top WR are going to give you more bang for your buck. I.e The top WR are going to give you more consistent points then the second level of RBs. But you don't want to miss a second level RB and instead get two top level wr then your going to end up with lv 3 Rb which can kill your team regardless of the level of WR that you have. So while you want to get the best player possible, you also want to try to balance your team out. At a certain point WR ranked higher then the remaining RB and the top TE are ranked higher then both the remaining WR and RB.

Notice that I didn't mention QB's at all because that is a completely different animal. You can only start 1 QB and they usually score more points then everyone else. However the top level of QB's for the most part (last year was an exception) usually stand head and shoulders above everything else. But the second level is pretty consistant and deep. So you can usually wait and get a lv 2 QB and try to pick up a couple of RB and WR or a Top lv TE before you have to grab a lv 2 QB.

As for the Wavior wire it can be a life savor but yes you need to know who to go after and you have to be watching for players to have break out games, injuries to starters, playing defensive match ups and what not.

Does that help.

Yeah it helps a lot actually.

It also makes me feel better about grabbing Green, that makes me have 2 starting RB's and a good WR. I did think about grabbing two QB's to hamper other players but there's no point in that when I got the choices I did.

[Tapper]

I left my picks with Stalker, just in case everything suddenly moves extremely fast.

[Slow Ben]

Obdigore said:

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Ugh... such a hard decision if I should have gone double RB or not, but with Dez still sitting there I couldn't pass him up.

Linehan knows how to get deep balls out, and Dez is their deep ball threat, so I'm expecting 150 yards and a score each game from him.

I struggled with that too, it's why it took me so long to pick. In the end I went with the very fantasy scientific reason of "Dez Bryant is a douchebag."

Vengeance said:

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Stalker said:

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My understanding is you have a budget, the first person on the board picks a player that he wants (say AP, our first choice) and anyone can bid for him. Winner pays the amount and then it repeats with the second owner picking a player for everyone to bid on.


It seems great in theory, but I wanted to know how it actually works and if it is as fair a system as it seems.

It is a very fair system. I have only been in one league that did that and it was great. The draft took for ever though and it was live. But still it is all about balancing top level talent and your pocket book.

It can be very fun, if it's the right league. 1) the draft can take foreeeeeever. 2). Everyone in the league has to be serious about it, if you have one or two yahoos in an auction they screw everything up.

[HoosierDaddy]

SHINNNNNNNN! PICK A PLAYER!