[Denul]

I still want people to read that case up above regarding a Pallid/Eloth connection but let's quickly look at;


Possible Pairings

Barghast/GL - When Eloth revealed GL was first to remove and put it on barghast, at this stage it was 2 and 2 on barghast and I. This is something you wouldn't do as scum partners


Barghast/Eloth when Eloth reveal the vote count is

Quote

6 votes to lynch. 5 votes to go to night.

4 votes Eloth: Galayn Lord, Atrahal, Nimander, Pallid
2 vote Barghast: Denul, Ampelas
1 vote Galayn Lord: Eloth
1 vote Denul: Barghast

instead of voting the second train he votes for me. Away from Barghast.


However, Barghast adds his vote to Eloth's after the reveal which put Eloth 4 3 ahead of Barghast himself. So this is a less likely pair


Then Eloth removes from me and plops his vote on Barghast, so this goes from Amber to red


Barghast/Kaschan Kaschan missed the end of this day and did not vote for Barghast. Out of those alive, he was only one who didn't vote for Barghast on that day.



Barghast/Pallid After Barghast votes for Eloth, after the reveal, Pallid votes for Barghast

So if Barghast is a killer, then his only partner could be Kaschan. Post reveal Kaschan actual dislikes Barghast, but never pushes a case against him, he even votes him but nothing else is added. It could be seen as late distancing but does make me re-evaluate this particular pairing.

Personally I don't see Barghast as scum, but he could be. There is a slight chance. I also don't see Kaschan as scum, but again there could be a slight chance.







Eloth/GL I don't see this one as they voted each other day 2 and Eloth disliked GL's rp.




Eloth/Kaschan




Eloth/Pallid You had the day one vote of Pallid by Eloth which looked like a possible signal. I cannot see Eloth as the killer in the pair due to his dare to lynch me and you'll find a town cf post, or when I am killed and cf town etc, this is supported by Pallid wanting to vote Eloth on day 2

Pallid, on 28 May 2014 - 08:16 AM, said:

Ok fuck ie, officially. This us now the 4th fucking time I've had to write this, and its getting shorter each time.
Basically, I've stated quite clearly several times where I'm willing to vote, my preference is denul or eloth. Barghast is a last resort because I just don't see it.
Denul is flailing around like a monkey on crack in a shit fight
see above, would one post not have sufficed sir Paddington?
Now the crux of it I really want to vote Eloth and I really want to vote Denul, but the votes are to tied up in my head, is denul saying he's sure eloth will flip town to protect him or because he KNOWS eloth will flip town? Is denul really just on crack?
I'm going to flip a coin

vote eloth

Enough conviction for you?

eta, yes I know this was cross posted with nimander, I don't fucking care, I had to type this out in my messages then copy and paste it over after ie crapped out on me three fuckjng times

He does not know for sure Eloth is his symp at this stage and it is pre reveal.


Post reveal Pallid removes

Pallid, on 28 May 2014 - 09:58 AM, said:

unvote eloth

haven't read beyond reveal, quick catch up

When day starts again the next day 1 minute PS posts night resolution and the next Pallid is asking who he healed. To me, at the time, and still I thought he asked the question a little too quick like he already knew that no one died. Within 1 minute the question was asked. I cannot shake the feeling Pallid made a mistake.

Each day, both Eloth and Pallid have cast me in a scummy light but they have not made a case against me, they have not pushed for my lynch but they constantly bring me up.


Kaschan/Pallid there is a post by Amp regarding these two from earlier

Ampelas, on 28 May 2014 - 09:28 AM, said:

Pallid and Kaschan aren't my top 2, but I think they're better than lynching Eloth/Denul.

Kaschan/GL




GL/Pallid

[Denul]

That is half arsed and in no way completed. I still have more to read, but it's where I am up to.

Got to read through all the connections, if you are wanting a lynch on this day then let's narrow the pairings down as much as we can. We have either 2 killers out there or killer and symp. We just cannot know with Sukul's modkill.

More to follow tomorrow.

[Denul]

Barghast, I see you have posted. I will read it on my way home.

[Kaschan]

I don't fully believe eloth because why would the killers target someone other then eloth at this stage. If he is a healer why take a risk of him healing someone when they could just kill him and be done with it. But then why would you vote for night in the middle of the weekend break with the entire day left. I dislike the fact that both of you remain.

[Kaschan]

Denul, on 02 June 2014 - 03:04 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 02 June 2014 - 02:53 PM, said:

Denul, on 02 June 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 02 June 2014 - 01:11 PM, said:

I am spending today (RL) with the family (took a vaca day) so will not be able to post very much. I will try to get on later but we are going to be doing a bunch of gardening.

I agree with Eloth. I think that denul is scum.

vote denul

Any reasons? Sorry to disturb you on your holiday. You think the odd even rule doesn't work here?

I don't think that any more information can be gathered from that type of move at this date. The people who are suspected scum will still be alive and we will be at the same point again.

Is this the sole reason you label me as scum? It's rather lazy of you to do so on D day. I cannot see your vote as anything but scummy at this stage. There is more than enough information on thread to dissuade you of the notion of me being scum. If the game ends with my lynch then I'd feel horrible.

If anything the information about you on the thread leads me to believe that you are a symp and not a killer. You move to vote night is a scummy move that a symp would make.

[Kaschan]

I am on my phone watching my kid dismantle a bucket play set at Costco.

[Kaschan]

Denial is most likely where I will be voting today. But I am going to the beach where I won't have any connection so I am not going to leave my vote sitting out there

[b]remove vote [\b]

[Kaschan]

remove vote

[Pallid]

Back, reading up

[Pallid]

well, reading up properly, I've sort of skimmed along today at work, been busy

[Pallid]

not entirely sure what to make of todays offerings, all I see is Denul.and Eloth getting increasingly irate and frustrated with each other

[Galayn Lord]

Sigh, reading through again I have to rue that we didn't lynch Eloth two days before this. Knowing that it's a full CF as evidenced by the previous CFs, we thus would have known for sure whether he was a healer or a symp if he came up town, and things afterward might have been more clear.

Anyway, onwards.

[Galayn Lord]

Pallid, on 02 June 2014 - 07:12 PM, said:

not entirely sure what to make of todays offerings, all I see is Denul.and Eloth getting increasingly irate and frustrated with each other

Like two townies bumping heads, or a tenacious town and a desperate scum?


Eloth's 'night scenarios' don't add anything at all, but they do also read as sarcastic frustration at Denul's vote night idea, which I myself am not really on board with instinctively.

[Galayn Lord]

I'm going to be putting up a few notes as I go:

Barghast:

Suspects Pallid early
Also bumps against Eloth early
Calls me suspiciously odd for RP
Disagrees with Denul's play
Votes Liosan day 1
Votes Denul day 2
Backs off Pallid
Calls Kaschan most unknown along with Sukul and Nimander
Votes Eloth when it looked like he would be lynched over Eloth, says he'd much rather lynch Denul, but "take my own word over his [Eloth's] if just based on his word".
Casts suspicion on Kaschan on day 3
Kaschan 'moving up the suspect list'
Starts suspecting Ampelas, believes GL or Kaschan could be partner, with Eloth possible symp.
Bets that Ampelas will come back scum.
Thinks that one of Eloth or GL has to be lying.
Thinks scum are GL and Kaschan
Worries that Pallid votes Kaschan as the path of least resistance.
Wonders about Eloth staying alive, now "going back and forth between Denul and Eloth."

[Pallid]

I really don't know, is eloth a killer desperate to bring it home?
is denul pushing because I'm looking at Kaschan?
Are they both frustrated town going at each other?

I really don't know




eta cross post

This post has been edited by Pallid: 02 June 2014 - 08:04 PM

[Path-Shaper]

It is now Day 5. 28 hours 26 minutes remaining.

6 players are alive: Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Pallid

4 votes to lynch, 3 votes to go to night.

1 vote Kaschan: Pallid
1 vote Night: Denul

Players not voted: Barghast, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kaschan

[Pallid]

well its my bed time

[Denul]

remove vote

[Galayn Lord]

Kaschan:

Says Pallid's vote on Fener reasonable on day 1
Does not mind GL's RPing.
Agrees with Ampelas against Eloth WIFOM.
Questions Denul post padding.
Day 2, accuses Eloth of being a symp but unsure who a symp too. Claims Eloth's post accusing Denul is full of contradictions.
Says he is inclined to vote Eloth.
Day 3, does not think Denul is scum
Believes that Eloth revealing but not being NKed is suspicious.
Agrees with Denul and Ampelas that Barghast could be scum with Nimander a symp.
Casts some suspicion on Denul.
Casts suspicion on GL for BP reveal.
Disagreements with GL over scum lynch motivations.
States that they do not fully buy Eloth's reveal.
Believes one of Eloth or GL are lying, says a little more inclined to believe GL.
Votes Barghast in order to clear the thread up some, agreeing with Ampelas. States only acceptable lynches for them are Nimander and Barghast.
Asks whether we should remove Nimander/Barghast WIFOM or Eloth/GL WIFOM.
Asks if he and GL should move their Barghast votes on to Eloth.
Day 4, says GL is at the top of his scum list. GL or Eloth.
Argues with Denul.
Agrees with Ampelas that Eloth is scummy.
Sees Ampelas, Barghast or Pallid as GL's partner. Denul symp and on the fence about Eloth.
Willing to vote for Eloth.
Believes if Eloth is anything he is a killer.
More convinced that GL is town. Removes vote and votes for Eloth instead.
Asks Pallid to remove from Ampelas, says Pallid is likely town.
Day 5, Casts doubt on Eloth's statement that he healed Pallid.
Says Denul voting night is the scummiest thing all game.
Votes Denul.
Belives Denul more probably symp than killer.
Removes vote from Denul, but says he will still most likely vote there.

[Galayn Lord]

Pallid:


Day 1, Votes Liosan
Denul 'pushing his buttons'.
Calls GL's vote on Eloth a drive-by.
Suspects Denul may be a symp and therefore Eloth can't be a killer.
Then makes Eloth leading candidate, for being 'fnah'.
Asks what the beef with Barghast is, and says would prefer Eloth lynched out of the two.
Preference Denul or Eloth, Barghast is last resort.
Votes Eloth (day 2)
Removes vote after Eloth's reveal.
Votes Barghast after Barghast votes a claimed healer.
Day 3, Suspicion swings to Denul
Votes Denul
No opinion yet on Kaschan.
Removes vote, votes Atrahal.
Asked why he didn't mention Barghast among his suspects, responds because Barghast was around during healer reveal, he's only focusing on those not around at the time.
Questions the logic of seeing Barghast as the prime suspect among Barghast, Ampelas, and Nimander. Says a Nimander lynch would be the most productive.
Votes Nimander (doesn't remove vote from Atrahal)
Day 4, suspects Eloth of lying about his healing.
Doesn't like the rush on Kaschan.
Suspects that Eloth and GL can't both be telling the truth.
Most inclined to vote Barghast or Kaschan, with Denul as symp.
Suspects Kaschan, Eloth, or Ampelas.
Disregards Kaschan due to Atrahal's NK, believes either Ampelas or Eloth for lynch, more Ampelas.
Asks if Denul might be symp with GL and Eloth as the killers.
Dismisses that, votes Ampelas
Removes Vote (when Kaschan asks)
Calls Kaschan's lack of hammer encouraging or suspicious.
Votes Ampelas
Day 5, votes Kaschan
Then removes vote
Says GL is lying, Denul is symp, and Barghast is other killer.
Or Kaschan and Barghast killers
Now Kaschan and Eloth.
Votes Kaschan, with Eloth partner.



Side-note: I think Nimander's lynch shouldn't have gone through as Pallid never removed his previous vote before voting Nimander.