Eloths my number 2 suspect and I'm buddying up with him?
ok, sure
I've got nothing to respond to here, its entirely aimed at Eloth, he is the claimed healer who has said his death PI's me, I've not mentioned it because I think the idea of going to night is ludacris, all its going to do is cause another wifom storm regardless of who (if anyone) dies. If we assume 2 killers this is d-day, this is where we stop them.
Why did you not code in that you are a healer early on?
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Denul, on 02 June 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:
I think if I was to vote anyone today it would be Eloth.
From a scum PoV
He has created a lot of Wifom, even before the reveal he wanted to discuss why HP died.
I am having to WIFOM every single night trying to outthink scum and keep people alive, it leaks onto the thread, don't mean to let it, will try harder in future to not.
Before that, I made a post about Pallid, in that post I said I didn't think he was scum, and I have had those opinions most of the way through the game, it's why I have not looked at Pallid since. Yet with 6 players left, he could be scum. I think Eloth defending Pallid here is interesting though. After my little dig at Pallid, Eloths says...
Eloth, on 22 May 2014 - 11:21 AM, said:
Denul you are treating everything after that post as genuine and serious, when I think most of them are still humorous/joking. It wasn't until you started posting about it that things heated up.
Not sure I like where you are trying to take this thread, you admit he's unlikely to be scum then continue trying to vilify him and make others hostile to him as well. You are within the same post contradicting yourself here. Why?
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Eloth, on 22 May 2014 - 11:24 AM, said:
I don't think any symp would be so reactionary and vehement about a couple of joke posts, they might sweat a bit but this is not a proportional or reasonable response a symp would have. I think you are reaching here.
You were being extremely hostile to a number of people on day 1, some of your attacks were I felt baseless and I said so.
Further signalling from Eloth in this quote below.
Eloth, on 22 May 2014 - 12:01 PM, said:
Denul, on 22 May 2014 - 11:33 AM, said:
Eloth, on 22 May 2014 - 11:24 AM, said:
I don't think any symp would be so reactionary and vehement about a couple of joke posts, they might sweat a bit but this is not a proportional or reasonable response a symp would have. I think you are reaching here.
I see you voted for Pallid, was that just a joke? And now for something completely different is a well known Monty Python phrase between bits, it signalled the end of one line of thought and the begining of another, yes it was a joke
So you think Pallid is joking with his posts? No not joking, pallid responded very aggressively to the double vote, and I don't yet know why, it of course is worth further consideration, but we can't draw any conclusions from it I think.
I am not taking the thread anywhere. What else do you want me to focus on? Learning how to pole-dance, obviously.
Ampelas made a point about Hood putting two people in his little post, like a signal to a master. That is more symp like, subtle, but HP would know we look out for that sort of stuff. You can wifom how town and scum play all you like, but I personally don't get Pallid's reaction to Fener's vote.
I don't think there is a lot to understand about Pallid's reaction, he saw something he didn't like and went for the throat, like a wolf! You are right that it does bear monitoring but more than that? *shrug*
Answered in red
Edit: Fixed beat to bear
I was making a joke that the guy with the wolf/hound avatar was very quick to go in for the kill
These sort of posts and points are what makes me look at Eloth like he is scum.
From a partnership Pov
Ties himself next to Pallid pretty early. The vote is not going to be followed so allows early distancing
Eloth, on 21 May 2014 - 09:24 PM, said:
Pallid, on 21 May 2014 - 09:14 PM, said:
jumping straight on to bandwagoning lio?
what the fuck?
Agreed wholeheartedly bandwagoning is chickenshit, and now for something completely different;
Vote Pallid
I didn't tie myself in with Pallid early from my POV, I stated my opposition to you early on.
If Eloth is a symp then I could see this as voting for his master especially combined with this next vote
Eloth, on 22 May 2014 - 09:58 AM, said:
Denul, on 22 May 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:
Eloth, on 22 May 2014 - 08:43 AM, said:
Denul, on 22 May 2014 - 08:11 AM, said:
I do like the avatar though, but I agree with you, I see Fener as ginormous. In Crippled God the hoof seemed to cover such a large area, unless that was just a metaphor or great magic.
In TCG he's big enough to cover 4 massive armies, there was some point earlier in the series when he was a more "regular size" when he was hiding in one of the errants temples I think. Don't know what size was specified but I have a really really hard time ever imagining him as smaller than Rood. Just can't see it.
As for pallids vehemence, people can latch onto flimsy day 1 lynches with all their might, so I don't think either of them are really displaying scum traits at the moment.
Anyone catch your eye so far then?
Since we actually only have just over 1 page of posts to look at after the switch up, the only two people who have caught my eye are you and Pallid. So much seriousness from the pair of you over relatively nothing.
When was the last time anything of consequence was said on day 1 that lead to a successful lynch?
Having said that, I'd really like to hear from some of the people who have yet to contribute in any way. Sukul Ankhadu no posts, three people with 1, most of them just checking in. So in that vein;
Remove Vote
Vote Sukul Ankhadu
Get online and give us what ya got, Sukul!
This may explain why they are still around and that today is D day. We lynch wrong thinking Eloth and Pallid are town and scum win.
If Pallid is town he could be being set up by Eloth. So Eloth being the common denominator would be the best lynch.
Denul, on 02 June 2014 - 12:38 PM, said:
Eloth, on 02 June 2014 - 12:29 PM, said:
Scenario 2; Eloth is NKed
After he comes up town Pallid is confirmed town on thread. Everyone feels cheated that I'm not actually scum. Provides the motivation to finaly fucking look elsewhere for the scum. But with Pallid the only known town odds are still 50/50 for actually lynching a scum and since everyone is up for consideration chances are town loses regardless. No obvious scum are revealed from this lynch.
Just want to point out, for the record, that none of the targets I WANT to have lynched HAVE been lynched, and *every single lynch to date* has fucking FAILED. Maybe it's time to listen to someone else?
Going to run through each of these now because it looks like there aren't a lot of people on, and it is in Denuls favour to ignore these so his "go to night" option begins to look better over time (it still sucks ass at time of writing).
How is it that Pallid comes up clear if you are lynched?
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Denul, on 02 June 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:
So you're inviting the night kill on yourself so that Pallid can PI himself?
You are so fucking scummy. You won't be night killed. I won't be. Pallid won't be. It will most probably be Barghast or Galayn Lord because I look lynchable, and so does Kaschan.
You focusing the fucking end of day on night actions, same as fucking day one, wifom, a scum trait. When I said go to night I meant so that the suspect pool is decreased, not to fucking wifom on the fucking night kill itself.
Why are you not going over the fucking thread to find scum? I know because you're not town.
I won't be around properly for another couple of hours or so. Denul, you've got stuck on something and won't let go. Remember you did this with Ampelas as well. I am just not seeing Eloth as scum right now, having read through their posts multiple times. If after all that he does turn up scum, then I'll just have to shake my head and congratulate them (and put them on the list), because they've managed to turn me around from my initial thoughts about them.
I won't be around properly for another couple of hours or so. Denul, you've got stuck on something and won't let go. Remember you did this with Ampelas as well. I am just not seeing Eloth as scum right now, having read through their posts multiple times. If after all that he does turn up scum, then I'll just have to shake my head and congratulate them (and put them on the list), because they've managed to turn me around from my initial thoughts about them.
If he is in truth the healer then it points towards you, Barghast and Kaschan. If you are town then the latter two must be scum.
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I won't be around properly for another couple of hours or so. Denul, you've got stuck on something and won't let go. Remember you did this with Ampelas as well. I am just not seeing Eloth as scum right now, having read through their posts multiple times. If after all that he does turn up scum, then I'll just have to shake my head and congratulate them (and put them on the list), because they've managed to turn me around from my initial thoughts about them.
If he is in truth the healer then it points towards you, Barghast and Kaschan. If you are town then the latter two must be scum.
Can you see a Barghast/Kaschan partnership?
I don't know yet. There was something holding me back from saying they are partners last night, but I'd have to go back through my notes to find out why. As I said, I'll be properly around in a few hours.
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I won't be around properly for another couple of hours or so. Denul, you've got stuck on something and won't let go. Remember you did this with Ampelas as well. I am just not seeing Eloth as scum right now, having read through their posts multiple times. If after all that he does turn up scum, then I'll just have to shake my head and congratulate them (and put them on the list), because they've managed to turn me around from my initial thoughts about them.
If he is in truth the healer then it points towards you, Barghast and Kaschan. If you are town then the latter two must be scum.
Can you see a Barghast/Kaschan partnership?
I don't know yet. There was something holding me back from saying they are partners last night, but I'd have to go back through my notes to find out why. As I said, I'll be properly around in a few hours.
Kaschan did not hammer Barghast but after that they have accused each other and even voted each other I think.
I won't be around properly for another couple of hours or so. Denul, you've got stuck on something and won't let go. Remember you did this with Ampelas as well. I am just not seeing Eloth as scum right now, having read through their posts multiple times. If after all that he does turn up scum, then I'll just have to shake my head and congratulate them (and put them on the list), because they've managed to turn me around from my initial thoughts about them.
If he is in truth the healer then it points towards you, Barghast and Kaschan. If you are town then the latter two must be scum.
Can you see a Barghast/Kaschan partnership?
I don't know yet. There was something holding me back from saying they are partners last night, but I'd have to go back through my notes to find out why. As I said, I'll be properly around in a few hours.
Kaschan did not hammer Barghast but after that they have accused each other and even voted each other I think.
I would have hammered him happily. I pressed his lynch the next day instead of Nimanders because I thought that clearing him up would have cleared up Nimander not the other way around.
Eloths my number 2 suspect and I'm buddying up with him?
ok, sure
I've got nothing to respond to here, its entirely aimed at Eloth, he is the claimed healer who has said his death PI's me, I've not mentioned it because I think the idea of going to night is ludacris, all its going to do is cause another wifom storm regardless of who (if anyone) dies. If we assume 2 killers this is d-day, this is where we stop them.
I agree with this. Going to night does town no good at all. We are just left with the same shit on a different day.
For whatever reasons everyone has provided, are enough of us happy to vote to lynch Kaschan today? I won't be on around end of day so will have to change my vote in the next few hours.
Pallids guess of scum - Eloth + Kaschan
Eloths guess - Denul + Kaschan
Galayn Lords guess - Barghast + Kaschan
Denuls guess - Barghast + Kaschan OR Eloth + (Kaschan? I think)
Barghasts guess - EITHER Eloth OR Denul (not sure who he thinks is 2nd scum in either scenario)
Kaschans guess - Denul + who?
For whatever reasons everyone has provided, are enough of us happy to vote to lynch Kaschan today? I won't be on around end of day so will have to change my vote in the next few hours.
Pallids guess of scum - Eloth + Kaschan
Eloths guess - Denul + Kaschan
Galayn Lords guess - Barghast + Kaschan
Denuls guess - Barghast + Kaschan OR Eloth + (Kaschan? I think)
Barghasts guess - EITHER Eloth OR Denul (not sure who he thinks is 2nd scum in either scenario)
Kaschans guess - Denul + who?
For me I drew lines before. Barghast, Kaschan or GL on one side or Eloth and Pallid on the other. You're doing it on purpose now.
For whatever reasons everyone has provided, are enough of us happy to vote to lynch Kaschan today? I won't be on around end of day so will have to change my vote in the next few hours.
Pallids guess of scum - Eloth + Kaschan
Eloths guess - Denul + Kaschan
Galayn Lords guess - Barghast + Kaschan
Denuls guess - Barghast + Kaschan OR Eloth + (Kaschan? I think)
Barghasts guess - EITHER Eloth OR Denul (not sure who he thinks is 2nd scum in either scenario)
Kaschans guess - Denul + who?
For me I drew lines before. Barghast, Kaschan or GL on one side or Eloth and Pallid on the other. You're doing it on purpose now.
Sorry I did somewhat forget that one, though you are right, me + pallid is the other option you mentioned.
For whatever reasons everyone has provided, are enough of us happy to vote to lynch Kaschan today? I won't be on around end of day so will have to change my vote in the next few hours.
Pallids guess of scum - Eloth + Kaschan
Eloths guess - Denul + Kaschan
Galayn Lords guess - Barghast + Kaschan
Denuls guess - Barghast + Kaschan OR Eloth + (Kaschan? I think)
Barghasts guess - EITHER Eloth OR Denul (not sure who he thinks is 2nd scum in either scenario)
Kaschans guess - Denul + who?
I think that it is Denul and Eloth or Denul and GL or Denaul and Barghast. The one scenario that I don't see is Denul and Pallid.
Work is shit right now. One of our databases didn't come up correctly and it is causing a continuing clusterfuck.
Also I have seen nothing that would make me change my mind about voting for Denul
Pallid 
Denul, on 03 June 2014 - 08:30 AM, said:
I did somewhat forget that one, though you are right, me + pallid is the other option you mentioned.
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