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Mafia 112: Brighter than Day

#901 User is offline   Korbas 

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 05:21 PM

View PostKaratallid, on 10 May 2014 - 01:49 AM, said:

I need to step out. I'm not sure I'll be around for lynch.

My concerns are that, given potential scum numbers vs deaths today/tonight, we're edging very close to what is D-day.

While it makes sense to take out the potential scum with two NKs, WCS says that Dem is inno and scum can then STILL take out two people tonight. We lose three with a lynch. Because that scenario would require scum to have the remaining kill powers, scum reach parity and, barring a SK, win the game.

If we don't lynch Demelain, and he's scum, then WCS we lose four tonight, scum win the game, barring the presence of an SK.



So...in other words, Town are fucked tonight almost regardless of what happens, under WCS. We can hope for a good guard action, or something, but it's pretty marginal.

Seeing as I won't be around, I'm going to vote now. The only real hope Town has at this point is if Dem is Town and not lynched. But...fuck. That's got so many inherent problems with it. As Town, I'd never go for that power purely because going for it is going to get you jumped as scum trying to win the game - logically, only scum would go for it hoping to use it to win by pretending to be inno, because "no scum would take this power as it lights them up too much as a target" - i.e. WIFOM. If your only defence is WIFOM logic, you shouldn't have done something in the first place.

Vote Demelain


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 05:34 PM

If PlayerX has AntiTank, they cannot perform a night action.

If PlayerX does not have AntiTank, then wtf other would they have?? They knew Demelain and Tholen.


My hypothesis.

Tholen took the BIMT kill day one and never relinquished.

That leaves the other four of the first five registered:
  • AntiTank
  • Possession
  • Hormonal
  • Spacial Teleportation

Rhyll claims ST. Rhyll CFed innocent.

I've already said I relinquished Hormonal on day 3 after two failed attempts at communication. (of course I could be lying but nobody stepped forward with a counter claim)

That leaves Demelain and PlayerX with Possession and AntiTank.

Barring mind-fuckery that I don't see:

Karatallid is now my top choice for PlayerX.

Whomever holds ST can relinquish and let us know if the Tholen kill was a result of ST use. If it wasn't, then we know AntiTank is in town hands. If it was, then we can safely assume AntiTank is PlayerX.


does anyone see a down side to Spacial Teleportation player relinquishing??

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 05:34 PM

Oh, and

Vote Karatallid

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 05:41 PM

Damn you, I came back in just to post that the person who has ST can drop it and tell us so we'll know whether town or scum have the vig - only to see I'm wasting my time :laughing:

Either way, I don't think there can be a kill tonight, right? Vig inactive and RIO if picked up by scum takes two nights. So we have breathing space.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 05:47 PM

View PostRyllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:41 PM, said:

Damn you, I came back in just to post that the person who has ST can drop it and tell us so we'll know whether town or scum have the vig - only to see I'm wasting my time :laughing:

Either way, I don't think there can be a kill tonight, right? Vig inactive and RIO if picked up by scum takes two nights. So we have breathing space.


That's the way I see it. Which is also why I think PlayerX has no reason to not take SCM in the morning.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:02 PM

Another option: Who has Possession now? Was anyone possessed yesterday? If not, then it's probably in townie hands and it makes it more likely (I think) that the vig is with scum. If a vpi townie has possession they could drop it and tell us...not sure which is safer to drop really, ST, or Possession. I guess in both cases the likelihood is high that it could be picked right back up by townies though.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:11 PM

FUCK! I've just realised Brujah escaped a lynch AGAIN!!!



Right, that's it. No more. Hentos, chrono Tholen so we can lynch him :laughing:

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:11 PM

View PostRyllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 06:02 PM, said:

Another option: Who has Possession now? Was anyone possessed yesterday? If not, then it's probably in townie hands and it makes it more likely (I think) that the vig is with scum. If a vpi townie has possession they could drop it and tell us...not sure which is safer to drop really, ST, or Possession. I guess in both cases the likelihood is high that it could be picked right back up by townies though.


I think that's likely to happen.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:11 PM

View PostRyllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 06:11 PM, said:

FUCK! I've just realised Brujah escaped a lynch AGAIN!!!



Right, that's it. No more. Hentos, chrono Tholen so we can lynch him :laughing:


hahahahahaha

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:15 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:



HW-702 | Possession
Open
The contractor's consciousness can leap into other human bodies and wrest control of them, suppressing the other consciousness within.
Ability: The player may select a target at night and is granted control of the target's body (alt). The target player is informed that they may not post or vote on-thread - only the possessor may do so. Both the possessor and possessee may reply to PMs.
Renumeration: The player must return to their original body after they have possessed someone for a day.
Relinquish: The player must be in their original body (alt) to relinquish the contract.
Fulfillment: If the player's original body is killed while they are possessing another player, the contract becomes fulfilled but they lose the mental dominance that suppresses the possessed consciousness. Both the possessor and possessee may now post in-thread and vote freely. The player may now jump directly from one possessed body to a new target player each night.




I attempted to possess Pran Chole but failed.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:19 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

Current Contract List



Closed until Day 6 - This Contract is not yet available, but will become Open on the specified Day.
Open - No one currently holds this Contract, it is available for registration.
Registered - A player currently holds this Contract.
Fulfilled - This Contract has been Fulfilled. It cannot return to Open status.
Expired - A player has died with this Contract registered. It is lost forever.





DM-872 | Rupture Internal Organs
Open



XY-170 | Blood-Induced Matter Transportation
Expired



JW-157 | Shapeshifting
Open



OV-724 | Hallucination
Open



EZ-674 | Gravity Amplification
Registered



GT-131 | Molecular Reconstitution
Expired



PJ-531 | Spatial Teleportation
Registered



GC-817 | Invisibility
Expired



UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization
Registered



KN-042 | Stone & Metal Material Absorption
Expired



XR-821 | Hormonal Attraction Amplification
Open



GW-345 | Fog Generation
Expired



DP-391 | Information Absorption
Open



HW-702 | Possession
Open



XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis
Registered



TZ-959 | Pyrokinesis
Open



GE-978 | Chronokinesis
Registered



ID-362 | Remote Inert Organic Sensing and Disintegration
Open



MR-433 | Magic
Expired



MC-198 | Impenetrable Infinite Force-field Creation
Registered



VM-460 | Spectral Contract Manipulation
Open



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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:26 PM

Seeing as how I have no message telling me I'm frozen, I assume gravity manipulation was used on me. Which was a quite reasonable thing to do. Smart.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:06 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 02:33 PM, said:

It is Day 4. The timer is frozen with 36 hours remaining.

8 players are alive: Anthras, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Korbas, Korvalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras

5 votes to lynch. 4 votes to go to night.




Contract list has been updated - go give it a read-over. I won't automatically process any registrations over the weekend unless you specify to go ahead. (If it is your turn over the weekend I will let you know).


6 registered. Presumably the two w/o contracts are town, one of you grab possession and possess me please.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 10:36 PM

View PostRyllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:14 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 10 May 2014 - 05:11 PM, said:

View PostRyllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:04 PM, said:

@ Pran Chole - look back at your PM conversation with the person who possessed you - compare it to Demelain before he became the Magician, any chance they could have been the same person?

There's a reason I'm only listening to Okaros. You maybe. You CFed innocent but you are who you are. :laughing: Demelain did such an excellent job RPing that I doubt anyone could have connected him from prose to his poetry. And you're assuming Pran Chole has been telling the truth.




That's why I said look back at Demelain's posting before he became the Magician, when he was posting normally, and compare that to the possession PMs. At the moment I have no reason not to believe Pran - no one has counter-claimed his story about what contract he dropped.


I went through the posts with my eyes opening for any damning wording, but whoever possessed me seemed pretty careful. I did a topic search for a couple of unique-ish words that they used, but nothing turned up in anyone's posts.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 10:37 PM

Well, that was a seriously profitable turn of events :-)

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 10:40 PM

Also, I would love a guard on the person holding Chronokinesis, so that person being possessed wouldn't be able to bring back dead scum this night.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 10:47 PM

View PostPran Chole, on 10 May 2014 - 10:36 PM, said:

View PostRyllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:14 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 10 May 2014 - 05:11 PM, said:

View PostRyllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:04 PM, said:

@ Pran Chole - look back at your PM conversation with the person who possessed you - compare it to Demelain before he became the Magician, any chance they could have been the same person?

There's a reason I'm only listening to Okaros. You maybe. You CFed innocent but you are who you are. :laughing: Demelain did such an excellent job RPing that I doubt anyone could have connected him from prose to his poetry. And you're assuming Pran Chole has been telling the truth.




That's why I said look back at Demelain's posting before he became the Magician, when he was posting normally, and compare that to the possession PMs. At the moment I have no reason not to believe Pran - no one has counter-claimed his story about what contract he dropped.


I went through the posts with my eyes opening for any damning wording, but whoever possessed me seemed pretty careful. I did a topic search for a couple of unique-ish words that they used, but nothing turned up in anyone's posts.


I've become so much less suspicious of you since I looked at the karatallid vote on Demelain.

Yes, and Anthras as well.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 10:48 PM

There's a bunch of other stuff I looked through, but it's all WIFOM so I don't put much stock into any of it indicating anything whatsoever.

For example, Karat only came on and posted briefly Day 2 while I was possessed. However, my possessor posted in my inbox several times, at very different times throughout day 2. But by the same token, both Karat and my possessor were bitching about being completely snowed under at their job.

Paying attention to that sort of thing will just do your head in and not help at all, really.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 11:03 PM

View PostHentos Ilm, on 10 May 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

Also, I would love a guard on the person holding Chronokinesis, so that person being possessed wouldn't be able to bring back dead scum this night.


There are two guards. One of them freezes for 3 nights. So that probably wouldn't be a good choice to use on the Chronokinesis player. Just in case we get the lynch wrong.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 11:17 PM

Hentos Ilm said:

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Also, I would love a guard on the person holding Chronokinesis, so that person being possessed wouldn't be able to bring back dead scum this night.



I'm not completely certain, but I don't think there's actually any need tonight for that. Possession would only start working the next day, right, meaning they would miss the window for bringing Tholen back.


Korbas said:

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Hentos Ilm said:

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Also, I would love a guard on the person holding Chronokinesis, so that person being possessed wouldn't be able to bring back dead scum this night.


There are two guards. One of them freezes for 3 nights. So that probably wouldn't be a good choice to use on the Chronokinesis player. Just in case we get the lynch wrong.




Chrono doesn't bring lynchees back.

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