Korvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:17 AM, said:
Hentos Ilm, on 12 May 2014 - 06:54 AM, said:
Are there any arguments for Korvalain being town? They have consistently struck me as being off and he certainly didn't stir up any waves from the moment town started to ascend.
Well there's my argument for it. This is down to me voting you isn't it.
I like to think I was trying to stir up waves *before* town started to ascend but that could just be my own rosy-eyed view of early Days so I shall bite my tongue
I rather think that other than being on thread as a vote and providing my usual insightful analysis I can't do much
Not entirely. You keep coming back to me being scum (and in the past few days, that was just about your only contribution), yet, as I think I demonstrated before, anyone holding the the Chronokinesis contract is a dead road for scum, not to mention that the contract brought two CI townies back so far. I fail to see how the fuck I could be scummy if I were holding Chrono, unless I was able to hold two contracts.
It is getting tiresome and it seems like a rearguard fight just to show you contributing.
As for another reason why I find you scummy: I answered Venesara (when he was in self-righteous mode) that if he wasn't scum, it would be you, Demelain, and Tholen. I was right 2/3s of the way and part of the reasoning was that you were so fricking adamant that Venesara was clear cut CI that it was almost like scum riding the coattails of town to seem town yourself.
anyway, on to what might matter.
Let's talk about group division.
one contained 4 players (depending on how it was resolved and how the switcheroo affected it, group 1 would also have contained Tholen or Pran Chole).
The way I see the division (if scum holds it):
Group 1: fairly straight-forward.
Situation if scum holds the contract:
Ryll + Okaros are highly likely town (I'd say CI) and that makes Anthras the only possible scum there, which leads me to think he won't turn out that way. If they included Pran Chole there originally and PCs claim of switcheroo is true, then Tholen was intended to go into group 2 and Pran into group 1, that was switched to Pran to group 2 and Tholen to 1 and Tholen ending up dead.
In this case, I'd speculate that the scum intent might have been to group 4 town, two of whom were VPI/CI and two who were shady enough to make their lynch a no-brainer necessity for clarity, whomever would be lynched second would vote along with the CIs anyway. That group would end with Okaros + Ryll standing.
Additional benefits: grouping them together leads to 2x a town lynch (easy benefit)
and removes two CIs from the lynch train, removing certified townies from using abilities on other players.
If town holds it:
Ryll, Okaros and Anthras are grouped because the holder is uncertain about Anthras and wants to give us a 100% foul-proof CF of this doubted person with no scum on the train. Alternatively, they also feel that this is the best way to protect Ryll and Okaros up until the end-game if scum grabs the serial killer contract. In that case, I'd say Anthras is the likely holder of the forcefield contract.
Group 2:
In the second group, I'd say that scum benefits from being there by muddling everything up.
I think I can plead non-guilty to creating the group and think I am a decent bet for being town.
Let's examine everyone else.
1. Korbas
Holds, alledgedly, Possession so wasn't a killer last night. Alledgedly, tried to possess Pran, which was then redirected to Tholen.
2. Korvalain
I am biased on the subject, see above. All things being equal, he is my last remaining scum target from the early game. Contract unsure?
3. Karatallid
Is likely to be a killer, according to Korbas, based on contract based deductions coupled with gut. Contract unsure.
4. Pran
Claims the Teleport, isn't counter-claimed. It was dropped, since, allowing him to talk about it.
Hmmm. But w
hat did PC do that made him a better target than, say, Okaros?
My suggestion right now is that a player starting with K is scum.... le sigh.
As for scum numbers... I am hoping we can be mildly optimistic and think there's only 1 left, but I am nowhere near sure enough about that to say it out loud.
edit: grammar.
This post has been edited by Hentos Ilm: 12 May 2014 - 10:42 AM
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