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Mafia 112: Brighter than Day

#221 User is offline   Venesara 

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 07:05 AM

I have to say I am surprised I am still alive.

I will be back a little later.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 07:29 AM

Well, considering the contract they had, I'd say my suspicion that Ay Estos was defending Venesara looks less likely now.


Poor Inane. Welcome to mafia!

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 08:48 AM

Nice playing, Inane!!! Gold Star!

I can't believe we fail to get a lynch and lose our healer. Hopefully everyone wake up more on next day.

New contract today make things even more interesting.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:36 AM

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:36 AM

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:37 AM

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:37 AM

and one more.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:37 AM

Okay I will get the quote now.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:39 AM

Tholen said:

1399452496[/url]' post='1122969']
Nice playing, Inane!!! Gold Star!

I can't believe we fail to get a lynch and lose our healer. Hopefully everyone wake up more on next day.

New contract today make things even more interesting.




Chronokinesis especially. Could bring back Okaros or Ay Estos if I'm reading that right.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:40 AM

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GC-817 | Invisibility

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The contractor can turn themself invisible. Clothing and held objects are also affected.
Ability: While you hold this contract, the first ability to target you (in resolution order) each night will fail. You must choose whether to use invisibility or not each night.
Renumeration: Vomiting. You must ignore the first 10 posts of each day (no quoting them, no replying to them or defending against issues raised in them, etc. Treat follow-up posts that are after the first 10 as if they were not following upon anything.)
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: none



whoever had this ability can now talk. Not saying the next person to speak is that person, but at least they do not have to ignore posts from here on in.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:41 AM

View PostTholen, on 07 May 2014 - 08:48 AM, said:

Nice playing, Inane!!! Gold Star!

I can't believe we fail to get a lynch and lose our healer. Hopefully everyone wake up more on next day.

New contract today make things even more interesting.


What are the new contracts?

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:41 AM

Venesara said:

1399455648[/url]' post='1122978']

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GC-817 | Invisibility

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The contractor can turn themself invisible. Clothing and held objects are also affected.
Ability: While you hold this contract, the first ability to target you (in resolution order) each night will fail. You must choose whether to use invisibility or not each night.
Renumeration: Vomiting. You must ignore the first 10 posts of each day (no quoting them, no replying to them or defending against issues raised in them, etc. Treat follow-up posts that are after the first 10 as if they were not following upon anything.)
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: none



whoever had this ability can now talk. Not saying the next person to speak is that person, but at least they do not have to ignore posts from here on in.



And here I thought you were about to claim you had the ability.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:44 AM

View PostRyllandaras, on 07 May 2014 - 09:41 AM, said:

View PostVenesara, on 07 May 2014 - 09:40 AM, said:

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GC-817 | Invisibility

Registered
The contractor can turn themself invisible. Clothing and held objects are also affected.
Ability: While you hold this contract, the first ability to target you (in resolution order) each night will fail. You must choose whether to use invisibility or not each night.
Renumeration: Vomiting. You must ignore the first 10 posts of each day (no quoting them, no replying to them or defending against issues raised in them, etc. Treat follow-up posts that are after the first 10 as if they were not following upon anything.)
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: none



whoever had this ability can now talk. Not saying the next person to speak is that person, but at least they do not have to ignore posts from here on in.



And here I thought you were about to claim you had the ability.


I think that would be part of the first 10 post rule, they have to ignore the thread at that time.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:53 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 May 2014 - 05:50 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 36 hours remain. 18 hours of registration remain.

14 players are alive: Anthras, Ay Estos, Demelain, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korbas, Korbalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Tholen, Venesara
8 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.
No one has voted.



View PostPath-Shaper, on 07 May 2014 - 04:51 AM, said:

Day 1 timed out without a lynch.
1 votes for Anthras (Ay Estos)
7 votes for Venesara (Ryllandaras, Okaros, Anthras, Tholen, Korbas, Pran Chole, Hanas)
1 vote for Korbas (Venesara)
I'll start resolving night.


Who looks scummy. Anthras, Demelain, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan and Korvalain

Who looks townie. Pran Chole, Hanas, Korbas,

Others I am not sure of.

Now to investigate further.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:58 AM

I am working on the premise there are a minimum of 3 scum. WCS there is a 4th but 3 sounds right for this game.

I think it works in scum favour that the no lynch happened and they killed 2 players which is a standard death rate for day one, so they have kept me around which gives them a scapegoat.

I think one on the train for sure and one off.

There has been a few games I have been scum and a few games, recently also, were scum have killed off their main vocalist for a lynch.

Ay Estos was killed and was not on my train. He was going after Anthras. That is where I am going to look first.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 10:04 AM

View PostVenesara, on 07 May 2014 - 09:40 AM, said:

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GC-817 | Invisibility

Registered
The contractor can turn themself invisible. Clothing and held objects are also affected.
Ability: While you hold this contract, the first ability to target you (in resolution order) each night will fail. You must choose whether to use invisibility or not each night.
Renumeration: Vomiting. You must ignore the first 10 posts of each day (no quoting them, no replying to them or defending against issues raised in them, etc. Treat follow-up posts that are after the first 10 as if they were not following upon anything.)
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: none



whoever had this ability can now talk. Not saying the next person to speak is that person, but at least they do not have to ignore posts from here on in.


This is a decent idea. We should probably try focus in depth discussion after the first ten posts. hats off to you there mate.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 10:55 AM

Anthras was not the first to check in. He was 4th.

View PostAnthras, on 05 May 2014 - 06:40 PM, said:

This is just a checking in post.


60 posts go by before he graces us with his presence. The first thing he wants to comment on is a contract not taken.

View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Not really surprising that no one took Shapeshifting. That could easily be one contract that stays open all game.



yet there was good discussion going on at that time, but obviously he is around and up to date, yet there are another 61 posts before he once again chimes in...

View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 05:03 PM, said:

Why don't you make the bare minimum effort at separating your vote from the rest of your post.


He is offering nothing from a town perspective, but from a scum perspective he is laying low and out of the limelight

Excuse about his absence and then willingness to vote the easy train. In fact at this stage, (I just went back and checked), Anthras was voted for by Pran Chole and I had one vote from Ryll.

View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 05:10 PM, said:

Yes I am here and getting caught up. I think that the first contract that was gone when I first posted was the antitank rifle materialization. I am very busy in RL and don't know how much I will be able to post today. I would be willing to vote for Venesara based on the if I was town slip. Unless something else come up before my RL day ends I will most likely be dropping a vote there.



Then his next post, 22 posts later, is just to enforce Mod rules further, or to help me out with them anyway.

View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

You can not reveal anything about the contract that you currently hold. Do not reveal anything about the contract that you currently hold. It is against the rules to talk about any contract that you currently hold.


I have 2 votes on me.

Now Anthras creates a train.

View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I am taking off. I feel that Venesara has to be lynched. Failure to lynch them will cast a shadow over them for the rest of the game. Scum will use that shadow to hide in for as long as possible. If it was a slip that sucks. But due to the WIFOM Venesara has to be lynched. We will just be making the game harder on ourselves if we do not lynch Venesara today.

Vote Venesara



So for all of his absence and seemingly disinterest he decides to push my lynch anyway...

View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

I disagree. A low poster can come on and post. Leaving Venesara alive past today will create WIFOM and that is only useful for scum.


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Posted 07 May 2014 - 10:56 AM

Now Korbas gets busy and ends up voting Anthras, look at his reaction.. (That is, Pran Chole, Korbas and Ay Estos who vote for Anthras day one, are they all missing something?)

View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 09:24 PM, said:

Korbas calm down guy. There are a couple of reasons I didn't think that it was vital (He goes into sign up to find evidence for his defense)

A. Ps asked in the sign up thread for people to put in provisionals.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 03 May 2014 - 06:29 PM, said:

Alts have been sent out. Let me know if there's any troubles logging in. I especially recommend the people who will be gone during the bank holiday try them out now if you have the chance.

Furthermore, the full contract list will be posted soon. If you want to submit a provisional request now, you can.


And

B

I was busy yesterday and wasn't really paying that much attention. The only reason I payed any attention is that it wasn't what I would have done so it caught my eye a bit. (He makes an excuse about not paying attention but he has previously said he is caught up, and read up and his read on me suggests that he knows enough to push my lynch)

C

And this I can't stress enough. You are assuming that ps was around to process the contracts as they came in. However if ps was busy during the day. She does have a job the she might have had a list if several but only time to do one then time to do a couple more. That is the problem with basing things off of what time ps did things. You don't know what ps was dealing with. I understand that you want an edge and that you think that there might be one in the time but it is such a potential wifom situation that I minimize its significance to the point of huh well that is interesting.


This post seems to be a bit of an effort for someone who has garnered a vote or two, at this stage. I think Pran's vote was not set in stone and he ended up voting for me anyway. Then Korbas votes and Anthras gets more involved than any other point in the day.

Also did this question get answered by Anthras?

View PostKorbas, on 06 May 2014 - 09:07 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 08:56 PM, said:

I don't understand the point you're trying to make here...


I want to know why Anthras didn't feel that letting others know that contracts were being handed out was important. He remembers thinking it was funny that it wasn't one of the top two. So he can't say that he didn't think about it at all.

@ everyone else: would you not have commented on it? If I'm just imagining import where there is none, tell me before I waste more time on it.


Anyway, just look..

View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 09:30 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 06 May 2014 - 09:22 PM, said:

Remove Vote


Vote Anthras


Attempting to derail a fellow scums lynch train while using faulty logic.

Check

Doesn't say anything until I say that I am leaving for the day. Panic scum behavior
Check


Assumes that ps is going to do things that ps doesn't say they will. Such as do all contracts at the end of 18 hours. It does not say that in the op.
Making things up to fit a narrative.
Check

Panic posting as a train is starting on someone.
Check


I feel just fine with my vote and now I have my eye on you.



View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 09:36 PM, said:

Oh and korbas look at the time between my first posts. There were all of 4 people on when I got on and one of the contracts where taken. Why would I assume that was weird when none of the other posters did. It is a high tmdi game there is a lot of stuff I just take as ps says.



and this is what caught Ay Estos' eye

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 10:07 PM, said:

The case against Anthras

After an early check-in (possible early registration) he disappears for some time. He returns to post a single ultra-safe no content post, before disappearing for some more hours. Makes a comeback post about formatting ettiquete in a very pissy way, before saying he is willing to lynch Venesara. Clarifies for venesara the rules about revealing contracts, also in a very pissy way. Makes ONE legitimate post before announcing he is going to bed, that takes seven sentences to say "I didn't notice any others". Incites Venesara to be lynched threatening WIFOM if he survives. (Which I agreed with because a few people mentioned it, but if HE is one of the people threatening it?) As well as possibly deflecting attention from either Ryllandaras or Demelain? Later (all of this after saying he was going to sleep) he defends himself by putting blame on PS and that he "wasn't really paying that much attention".

Highly willing to go for a thin and trivial lynch, threatening WIFOM for the rest of the game if we don't follow through, staying on well after "going to sleep" to ensure the lynch because of a mistake.

Agree with Korbas who quoted a lot of relevant stuff.

Remove Vote

Vote Anthras




Here we are

View PostKorbas, on 06 May 2014 - 11:40 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 May 2014 - 08:29 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 9 hours and 20 minutes remain.

14 players are alive: Anthras, Ay Estos, Demelain, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korbas, Korbalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Tholen, Venesara

8 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote for Karatallid (Korbas)
1 vote for Anthras (Pran Chole)
2 votes for Venesara (Ryllandaras, Okaros)
1 vote for Ay Estos (Hanas)
1 vote for Korbas (Venesara)



Currently I think:
6 hours 10 minutes

8 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

3 vote for Anthras (Pran Chole, Korbas, Ay Estos)
4 votes for Venesara (Ryllandaras, Okaros, Anthras, Tholen)
1 vote for Ay Estos (Hanas)
1 vote for Korbas (Venesara)

I'm willing to switch to Venesara for the lynch. Still like my vote on Anthras.

I'll be around off and on for a couple more hours.



Once Anthras got a little heat and after his third vote, Ryll, Tholen and Pran are talking in thread.

View PostKorbas, on 07 May 2014 - 01:14 AM, said:

View PostRyllandaras, on 06 May 2014 - 10:48 PM, said:

<snip>


In conclusion - Ay Estos really wishes that Venesara isn't lynched.


Again, my case on Anthras is paper thin. I know I'm being subjective as hell. But Rhyll makes an interesting point here, I can't see Anthras getting enough votes today, and I'm always wrong on my day one certainties. So I will switch for the lynch and say good night:

Remove Vote


Vote Venesara



Korbas takes away his vote, making mine the only viable lynch at this point. Pran follows this, at this stage to get the lynch

View PostPran Chole, on 07 May 2014 - 01:30 AM, said:

Running out of time, and it looks like that is the way it has to go to get a lynch, so this will put them at 6 votes (L-2)

Remove Vote

Vote Venesara





This next post for me is good for Hanas

View PostHanas, on 07 May 2014 - 04:18 AM, said:

Sorry I've been gone so long. As I said I would,

Remove Vote
Vote Venesara


It doesn't look like anyone is around at the moment...I should be on until timeout, but I think we have like 30 minutes left. Hopefully someone will show up to hammer for the lynch, as I agree that a no-lynch will simply create too much WIFOM in a game that is complex and fluid.




So who should have been around to vote to get the lynch? That comes later.

I should have been dead and buried the minute Anthras' train melted away.

Ay Estos should have changed for sure, even if he disagreed with the vote.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 10:56 AM

I lost track towards the end of my read there due to work. So the ending may not make sense as much as I wanted it to.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 10:58 AM

View PostDemelain, on 07 May 2014 - 10:04 AM, said:

View PostVenesara, on 07 May 2014 - 09:40 AM, said:

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GC-817 | Invisibility

Registered
The contractor can turn themself invisible. Clothing and held objects are also affected.
Ability: While you hold this contract, the first ability to target you (in resolution order) each night will fail. You must choose whether to use invisibility or not each night.
Renumeration: Vomiting. You must ignore the first 10 posts of each day (no quoting them, no replying to them or defending against issues raised in them, etc. Treat follow-up posts that are after the first 10 as if they were not following upon anything.)
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: none



whoever had this ability can now talk. Not saying the next person to speak is that person, but at least they do not have to ignore posts from here on in.


This is a decent idea. We should probably try focus in depth discussion after the first ten posts. hats off to you there mate.


and reason you didn't vote day one and missed end of day?

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