[Venesara]

Demelain, on 06 May 2014 - 04:56 PM, said:

hey guys. i'm following but cant really respond as im on my way to the airport.

my main thoughts are we have 3 - 2 scum. largely because there are three largely scummy contracts in the top 5.

we need to keep quiet about any renumeration below the top 5 we notice while we build info. lets try not get ourselves targeted. im back in 2 hours for evening posting but will be more active Day 2 as its a public holiday for me.

[Venesara]

Fair enough, you did pre empt your absence.

[Venesara]

Karatallid, on 06 May 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

Just checking in. The opening time for the thread coincided with a particularly long sleep/work/sleep/work cycle. I should be around a lot more tomorrow (hopefully).



Granted, Day One we really have nothing to go on with the current level of participation - I get the feeling the contracts speculation might distract us for a short while, which isn't entirely helpful. Scum don't have to keep using the same powers every night, so patterns etc in the killings may not be as reliable as normal, but at the end of the day they have to remove Town. By definition, unless a Town player has a really solid reason to believe someone is Scum, there should be no kills being thrown around that aren't Scum-on-Town. Long story short; we may end up hunting scum with more variable abilities, but Town should still be playing whatever abilities can be picked up for Town; so let's not get bogged down in too much mechanics speculation, eh?

[Venesara]

Hentos Ilm, on 05 May 2014 - 06:12 PM, said:

Second, and out again - this is purely a courtesy visit. I will post more in 12-14 hours when at work.

So he had time to post at work but all he gave us was this...

Hentos Ilm, on 06 May 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

Well, disappointing amount of replies, but that makes it at the very least easy to catch up.

Regarding the taking of contracts: since there are priority lists, it seems to me as if the confirmed contracts were the top of the priority-lists. If someone at a low priority requests a contract and higher prio players haven't checked in/submitted yet, those would be on hold, I imagine.

[Venesara]

This guy offers nothing except to vote me and push it.

Ryllandaras, on 06 May 2014 - 09:50 AM, said:

Checking in only. Won't have time for actual posting till this evening.

Ryllandaras, on 06 May 2014 - 04:22 PM, said:

Venesara, on 06 May 2014 - 04:16 PM, said:

Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 03:51 PM, said:

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 03:50 PM, said:

Venesara, on 06 May 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 03:14 PM, said:

Whoever has rupture: please, please be a good townie and hold onto that like it's a bottle of Glenfiddich. Never let it go and only open it on a very special occasion.

That is exactly what i would have done, if I was townie and I had received that role. So hopefully a townie did get it and will hold it back.

Interesting choice of wording in that sentence.

That IS a good catch - what do you mean IF you were a townie, Ven?

Well I am scum obviously! Hurr durr.

I am not really, I wouldn't be that loose with my wording. I see what you see, and to be honest, would be all over it if it was one of you guys!

I certainly will be all over that.

Vote Venesara

Wouldn't be the first time that scum have been caught out by such phrasing.

Ryllandaras, on 06 May 2014 - 10:48 PM, said:

Ay Estos sees Venesara being made a target.

Ay Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 07:18 PM, said:

Ay Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 07:14 PM, said:

snip

There is no reason for him to be upset at being called a PI, so there must be a better reason than THAT for this kind of reaction, maybe the phrashing just rubbed him the wrong way. He can't even be a SK because even if there is one, they were put in random order with the scum.

We may want to look at who else MIGHT have missed registering, though to be honest I can't easily imagine a scenario where someone checks in but volunteers to stay as a RI, especially as #9 in the list, plenty of good stuff still there.

Fixed in red, not going to edit something like that out, but this should avoid some the grr grr finger pointing grr grr mispeaking is punishable by death grr grr

Makes a poor wording choice (I haven't included the particular unedited post, it's the one just before this one), then corrects and highlights it themselves in bright red lettering.

Ay Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:02 PM, said:

Venesara, on 06 May 2014 - 07:58 PM, said:

Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

I'll hold back on voting for now, but I wouldn't mind going Venesara's way if that's where it goes. It could very well just be poor choice of words for a townie, but it could also be a slip. For a Day 1 case it's better than many we've seen in the last few games.

I wouldn't let it go if it was one of you guys. I totally meant it though. Are we allowed to divulge what contact we went for? I haven't read the rules properly.

Can we let people know if we have one currently?

What sort of things can be revealed to help you decide I am in fact town and the wording was poorly done?

No you can't tell anyone anything about your contract.

I think you can SAY you have a contract in general, but even then why bother? Don't say when you got it either, that would mean talking about PS PMs and their timings.

Just continue to be a reasonable player, and also I may have saved your bacon, by burning mine, by accidentally forgetting to say "if there is one" when also talking about a hypothetical situation. Turns out people LOVE their IFs.

The only things you can talk about in regards to contracts are (a) previously held ones, and ( anything you hear from PMs through a lover connection.

No one makes a deal out of it except Ay Estos themselves again, essentially saying their slip is a bigger one than Venesara's.

Ay Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:35 PM, said:

Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 08:30 PM, said:

Ay Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

How long do we have left today?

I highly doubt Venesara is scum but if that is the only option it beats getting no lynch, at least he will be known to be whatever he is and that question will be put to bed.

I'm not set in stone against Venesary, I'm certainly willing to go another route. What you thinking, low poster?

One of the low posters would be a better bet than venesara imo, if he IS scum he will give us plenty more chances fo screw up once people start having actualy STUFF to build cases on, but a low poster could coast through the entire game watching us eat ourselves.

Who are the lowest posters at the moment, Ryllandaras and Demelain?

'Hey guys, what about the low posters instead of Venesara?'

Ay Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 10:07 PM, said:

The case against Anthras

After an early check-in (possible early registration) he disappears for some time. He returns to post a single ultra-safe no content post, before disappearing for some more hours. Makes a comeback post about formatting ettiquete in a very pissy way, before saying he is willing to lynch Venesara. Clarifies for venesara the rules about revealing contracts, also in a very pissy way. Makes ONE legitimate post before announcing he is going to bed, that takes seven sentences to say "I didn't notice any others". Incites Venesara to be lynched threatening WIFOM if he survives. (Which I agreed with because a few people mentioned it, but if HE is one of the people threatening it?) As well as possibly deflecting attention from either Ryllandaras or Demelain? Later (all of this after saying he was going to sleep) he defends himself by putting blame on PS and that he "wasn't really paying that much attention".

Highly willing to go for a thin and trivial lynch, threatening WIFOM for the rest of the game if we don't follow through, staying on well after "going to sleep" to ensure the lynch because of a mistake.

Agree with Korbas who quoted a lot of relevant stuff.

Remove Vote

Vote Anthras

And finally hopes to be able to get traction going on Korbas' case on Anthras instead of Venesara.


In conclusion - Ay Estos really wishes that Venesara isn't lynched.

[Venesara]

Ryllandaras, on 07 May 2014 - 07:29 AM, said:

Well, considering the contract they had, I'd say my suspicion that Ay Estos was defending Venesara looks less likely now.


Poor Inane. Welcome to mafia!

Ryllandaras, on 07 May 2014 - 09:39 AM, said:

Tholen, on 07 May 2014 - 08:48 AM, said:

Nice playing, Inane!!! Gold Star!

I can't believe we fail to get a lynch and lose our healer. Hopefully everyone wake up more on next day.

New contract today make things even more interesting.

Chronokinesis especially. Could bring back Okaros or Ay Estos if I'm reading that right.

Ryllandaras, on 07 May 2014 - 09:41 AM, said:

Venesara, on 07 May 2014 - 09:40 AM, said:

Quote

GC-817 | Invisibility
Registered
The contractor can turn themself invisible. Clothing and held objects are also affected.
Ability: While you hold this contract, the first ability to target you (in resolution order) each night will fail. You must choose whether to use invisibility or not each night.
Renumeration: Vomiting. You must ignore the first 10 posts of each day (no quoting them, no replying to them or defending against issues raised in them, etc. Treat follow-up posts that are after the first 10 as if they were not following upon anything.)
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: none

whoever had this ability can now talk. Not saying the next person to speak is that person, but at least they do not have to ignore posts from here on in.

And here I thought you were about to claim you had the ability.

[Venesara]

I do not think town are doing very well this game. I know the majority of these cannot be scum. Yet they are not acting in the interest of town.

[Venesara]

I think Anthras needs to be investigated more and put under pressure because I think he is the best bet so far.

I don't like how people are hiding. Look at Hanas, he hasn't posted much but he didn't miss end of day and he did contribute for the lynch, so I am not complaining about low posting here, I am complaining about the willingness to let day time out. get your acts together.

Vote Anthras

[Korvalain]

I'll hold my hand up and say I should have been around - I checked back after work at this post by PS;

Path-Shaper, on 06 May 2014 - 08:29 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 9 hours and 20 minutes remain.

14 players are alive: Anthras, Ay Estos, Demelain, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korbas, Korbalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Tholen, Venesara

8 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote for Karatallid (Korbas)
1 vote for Anthras (Pran Chole)
2 votes for Venesara (Ryllandaras, Okaros)
1 vote for Ay Estos (Hanas)
1 vote for Korbas (Venesara)

and went home, being tired and more than a little annoyed (at work, not the game) forgot to check back later - that's one vote that would have made the lynch.

So please add me to your list Ven, I think I deserve it.


What is your opinion on Korb today?

[Korvalain]

Path-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis
Open
The contractor can freeze liquids at will, including the moisture around another person, immobilizing them.
Ability: You can freeze another player each night. Frozen players are unable to use any night actions for three consecutive nights.
Renumeration: Honesty. You must not lie in the game thread or any off-thread communications.
Relinquish: This contract cannot be relinquished while any other players remain frozen.
Fulfillment: none


TZ-959 | Pyrokinesis
Open
The contractor becomes capable of controlling and spontaneously generating fire. The contractor learns to control the flames and increase their intensity over time by focusing their abilities through song.
Abilities:
--You are automatically immune to Cryokinesis.
--Heat: On any night, can target a player and heat them, remove any lasting Cryokinesis effects upon them.
--Incinerate: Only useable after the contract has been successfully renumerated for four consecutive days. You can target and kill one other player each night. You cannot use Incinerate and Heat on the same night.
Renumeration: Singing. The player must use the title of a song in their posts on five seperate occasions each day. Any song titles can be used, so long as they can be found fairly easily on the internet and are not just single ordinary words. There is no capitalization or other formatting necessary, so you can try to hide them in your posts. You must send a PM to Path-Shaper indicating the posts and song titles each day.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once incineration is used for the first time, the contract is fulfilled.


GE-978 | Chronokinesis
Open
The contractor can reverse temporal flow in the surrounding area, rewinding past events in short bursts.
Ability: Each night, you may choose a target player. Any effects applied to that player (healing, freezing, death, etc) on the previous night are retroactively undone (including potentially bringing them back to life).
Renumeration: Aging Backwards. Each time you use this contract's ability you age backwards to an unknown degree. If the current game day plus the number of times you have used this contract's ability is greater than 10, you die.
Relinquish: This contract is relinquished when and only when you successfully use its ability on yourself.
Fulfillment: none

These are the new contracts opened today, all currently available - worth keeping an eye on them in the OP like yesterday.

Path-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

All players can relinquish and register contracts during the day, once each and in that order. Each day, PS will generate an order of all players, and they can relinquish/register requests in that order. Scum always come before town in the order, and amongst both town and scum players who hold no contract at the start of day will come before those who already do. Once players are grouped into those bounds, the rest of the order is determined randomly.

ie:

-scum who have no contract
-remaining scum
-town who have no contract
-remaining town

So same basis, they can be relinquished and claimed in order again - the alt that didn't claim an ability today precedes the rest to claiming theirs - I imagine this being a town alt with a plan for a particular contract because why would scum need to not register one when they're first anyway.

[Venesara]

Korvalain, on 07 May 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

I'll hold my hand up and say I should have been around - I checked back after work at this post by PS;

Path-Shaper, on 06 May 2014 - 08:29 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 9 hours and 20 minutes remain.

14 players are alive: Anthras, Ay Estos, Demelain, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korbas, Korbalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Tholen, Venesara

8 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote for Karatallid (Korbas)
1 vote for Anthras (Pran Chole)
2 votes for Venesara (Ryllandaras, Okaros)
1 vote for Ay Estos (Hanas)
1 vote for Korbas (Venesara)

and went home, being tired and more than a little annoyed (at work, not the game) forgot to check back later - that's one vote that would have made the lynch.

So please add me to your list Ven, I think I deserve it.


What is your opinion on Korb today?

Have you got a read on him? No one is safe from my book.

He created an opposing train to me, which can be seen as townie from my point of view because I am town. However, from everyone else it must have looked like he was trying to deflect from me like a symp would. Hopefully Ay Estos' cf will vindicate me somewhat but then again he could have been a symp from your (everyone else but me) eyes.

What is interesting is that after creating that train, he removed his vote and jumped onto mine. If Korbas is a symp (possible) then he could be doing two things, one giving town 2 mis lynches or two voting his boss which doesn't seem likely.

Could Korbas be scum, again creating two future lynches?

If Korbas is town, then what do you make of his motivations?

[Venesara]

Korvalain, on 07 May 2014 - 11:30 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis
Open
The contractor can freeze liquids at will, including the moisture around another person, immobilizing them.
Ability: You can freeze another player each night. Frozen players are unable to use any night actions for three consecutive nights.
Renumeration: Honesty. You must not lie in the game thread or any off-thread communications.
Relinquish: This contract cannot be relinquished while any other players remain frozen.
Fulfillment: none


TZ-959 | Pyrokinesis
Open
The contractor becomes capable of controlling and spontaneously generating fire. The contractor learns to control the flames and increase their intensity over time by focusing their abilities through song.
Abilities:
--You are automatically immune to Cryokinesis.
--Heat: On any night, can target a player and heat them, remove any lasting Cryokinesis effects upon them.
--Incinerate: Only useable after the contract has been successfully renumerated for four consecutive days. You can target and kill one other player each night. You cannot use Incinerate and Heat on the same night.
Renumeration: Singing. The player must use the title of a song in their posts on five seperate occasions each day. Any song titles can be used, so long as they can be found fairly easily on the internet and are not just single ordinary words. There is no capitalization or other formatting necessary, so you can try to hide them in your posts. You must send a PM to Path-Shaper indicating the posts and song titles each day.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once incineration is used for the first time, the contract is fulfilled.


GE-978 | Chronokinesis
Open
The contractor can reverse temporal flow in the surrounding area, rewinding past events in short bursts.
Ability: Each night, you may choose a target player. Any effects applied to that player (healing, freezing, death, etc) on the previous night are retroactively undone (including potentially bringing them back to life).
Renumeration: Aging Backwards. Each time you use this contract's ability you age backwards to an unknown degree. If the current game day plus the number of times you have used this contract's ability is greater than 10, you die.
Relinquish: This contract is relinquished when and only when you successfully use its ability on yourself.
Fulfillment: none

These are the new contracts opened today, all currently available - worth keeping an eye on them in the OP like yesterday.

Path-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

All players can relinquish and register contracts during the day, once each and in that order. Each day, PS will generate an order of all players, and they can relinquish/register requests in that order. Scum always come before town in the order, and amongst both town and scum players who hold no contract at the start of day will come before those who already do. Once players are grouped into those bounds, the rest of the order is determined randomly.

ie:

-scum who have no contract
-remaining scum
-town who have no contract
-remaining town

So same basis, they can be relinquished and claimed in order again - the alt that didn't claim an ability today precedes the rest to claiming theirs - I imagine this being a town alt with a plan for a particular contract because why would scum need to not register one when they're first anyway.

I like the bringing back to life mechanic. I hope it falls into town hands!

[Korvalain]

Venesara, on 07 May 2014 - 11:32 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 07 May 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

I'll hold my hand up and say I should have been around - I checked back after work at this post by PS;

Path-Shaper, on 06 May 2014 - 08:29 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 9 hours and 20 minutes remain.

14 players are alive: Anthras, Ay Estos, Demelain, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korbas, Korbalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Tholen, Venesara

8 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote for Karatallid (Korbas)
1 vote for Anthras (Pran Chole)
2 votes for Venesara (Ryllandaras, Okaros)
1 vote for Ay Estos (Hanas)
1 vote for Korbas (Venesara)

and went home, being tired and more than a little annoyed (at work, not the game) forgot to check back later - that's one vote that would have made the lynch.

So please add me to your list Ven, I think I deserve it.


What is your opinion on Korb today?

Have you got a read on him? No one is safe from my book.

He created an opposing train to me, which can be seen as townie from my point of view because I am town. However, from everyone else it must have looked like he was trying to deflect from me like a symp would. Hopefully Ay Estos' cf will vindicate me somewhat but then again he could have been a symp from your (everyone else but me) eyes.

What is interesting is that after creating that train, he removed his vote and jumped onto mine. If Korbas is a symp (possible) then he could be doing two things, one giving town 2 mis lynches or two voting his boss which doesn't seem likely.

Could Korbas be scum, again creating two future lynches?

If Korbas is town, then what do you make of his motivations?

Didn't D'rek say no symps but there would be contracts that could emulate them? Possession looks like the only one so far - i.e. you symp yourself from another alt?

I asked based on the fact you were voting them yesterday wondering if anything had changed.

Could be scum, could equally be town trying multiple avenues to see which picks up steam - on D1 scum would leap for any train not on a scum role and may have been fishing for that leap.

I'm going to have to re-read him I think

[Tholen]

Venesara, on 07 May 2014 - 11:35 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 07 May 2014 - 11:30 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis
Open
The contractor can freeze liquids at will, including the moisture around another person, immobilizing them.
Ability: You can freeze another player each night. Frozen players are unable to use any night actions for three consecutive nights.
Renumeration: Honesty. You must not lie in the game thread or any off-thread communications.
Relinquish: This contract cannot be relinquished while any other players remain frozen.
Fulfillment: none


TZ-959 | Pyrokinesis
Open
The contractor becomes capable of controlling and spontaneously generating fire. The contractor learns to control the flames and increase their intensity over time by focusing their abilities through song.
Abilities:
--You are automatically immune to Cryokinesis.
--Heat: On any night, can target a player and heat them, remove any lasting Cryokinesis effects upon them.
--Incinerate: Only useable after the contract has been successfully renumerated for four consecutive days. You can target and kill one other player each night. You cannot use Incinerate and Heat on the same night.
Renumeration: Singing. The player must use the title of a song in their posts on five seperate occasions each day. Any song titles can be used, so long as they can be found fairly easily on the internet and are not just single ordinary words. There is no capitalization or other formatting necessary, so you can try to hide them in your posts. You must send a PM to Path-Shaper indicating the posts and song titles each day.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once incineration is used for the first time, the contract is fulfilled.


GE-978 | Chronokinesis
Open
The contractor can reverse temporal flow in the surrounding area, rewinding past events in short bursts.
Ability: Each night, you may choose a target player. Any effects applied to that player (healing, freezing, death, etc) on the previous night are retroactively undone (including potentially bringing them back to life).
Renumeration: Aging Backwards. Each time you use this contract's ability you age backwards to an unknown degree. If the current game day plus the number of times you have used this contract's ability is greater than 10, you die.
Relinquish: This contract is relinquished when and only when you successfully use its ability on yourself.
Fulfillment: none

These are the new contracts opened today, all currently available - worth keeping an eye on them in the OP like yesterday.

Path-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

All players can relinquish and register contracts during the day, once each and in that order. Each day, PS will generate an order of all players, and they can relinquish/register requests in that order. Scum always come before town in the order, and amongst both town and scum players who hold no contract at the start of day will come before those who already do. Once players are grouped into those bounds, the rest of the order is determined randomly.

ie:

-scum who have no contract
-remaining scum
-town who have no contract
-remaining town

So same basis, they can be relinquished and claimed in order again - the alt that didn't claim an ability today precedes the rest to claiming theirs - I imagine this being a town alt with a plan for a particular contract because why would scum need to not register one when they're first anyway.

I like the bringing back to life mechanic. I hope it falls into town hands!

You said you think about 3 scum, I think maybe 4. I am thinking along this line, this new contract could be very good for us, and if scum does take these, we can grab up and hold onto the kill contracts that they would have to drop.

[Venesara]

I also just noticed that both Okaros and Ay Estos were vocal players yet not the top poster of the game. Korbas was left untouched.

Who else did Korbas vote day one?

[Venesara]

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 03:14 PM, said:

Whoever has rupture: please, please be a good townie and hold onto that like it's a bottle of Glenfiddich. Never let it go and only open it on a very special occasion.

Why would town get to acquire this and what made you so sure, two kills last night said you were wrong and it could have been a signal.

The next vote you do is

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 04:14 PM, said:

Out for a bit. I'm willing to drop a low post pressure vote

Hentos Ilm 2
Anthras 2
Ryllandaras 1
Karatallid 1
Hanas 1
Demelain

Demelain, on 06 May 2014 - 03:39 AM, said:

Morning morning!

Checking in and I'm off again. will be in a few hours later in the day.

Vote Demelain

which means this could again have been a signal to your low posting leader

[Venesara]

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 06:46 PM, said:

Back and I see that a pressure vote popped Demelain out of his realm. So moving up the low post list:

Remove Vote


Vote Karatallid

Then you remove onto Kara. I think one of these could be your leader, if you are symp.

[Venesara]

Venesara, on 06 May 2014 - 08:17 PM, said:

Right I neve been in front of a computer all day. I see that I am the obvious choice for today and that I don't have a great alternative for you.

I will vote Korbas for ignoring my slip. Seems scummy to avoid the elephant in the room

remove vote

vote korbas

Which bring me back to this. You did avoid the elephant in the room, I do wonder as to why. I am town, so it's hard to call a town scum from a scum perspective, you may end up sounding false, whereas from a town perspective it's easy to call someone out on it.

[Venesara]

I am finding scum in many places and need to step back to let others have their say.

Secondly, I am going to be away for most of the weekend. I go to Barmouth at some point on Friday and return Sunday night. I will have my phone but I play many games. So today, tomorrow and Monday are going to be my busy days if I am alive and still around.

[Venesara]

Finally, as I leave for a bit. I would suggest not picking up the contracts straight away.