[Hanas]

Barely around atm. No-lynch is pathetic, esp at L-1 and like, 6 hours sitting at L-2 or something. Very frustrating; not sure how to proceed without reading up fully, lot of posts from Venesara it looks like.

Also, Demelain, you idiot, can you not read? You quoted PS where it shows my vote..then you say immediately after that I didn't vote. At least you can count, right? 9 votes + 6 alts on your list = 15 players. Fail.

Anthras - the word is "bated".

I literally have no time to comment on anything except these mundane details right now.

[Korbas]

Korvalain, on 07 May 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

Current registration list

Path-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

DM-872 | Rupture Internal Organs
Registered


XY-170 | Blood-Induced Matter Transportation
Registered


JW-157 | Shapeshifting
Open


OV-724 | Hallucination
Expired


EZ-674 | Gravity Amplification
Registered


GT-131 | Molecular Reconstitution
Expired


PJ-531 | Spatial Teleportation
Open


GC-817 | Invisibility
Registered


UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization
Registered


KN-042 | Stone & Metal Material Absorption
Open


XR-821 | Hormonal Attraction Amplification
Registered


GW-345 | Fog Generation
Registered


DP-391 | Information Absorption
Registered


HW-702 | Possession
Registered


XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis
Open


TZ-959 | Pyrokinesis
Open


GE-978 | Chronokinesis
Open

No changes in this as of now.

[Anthras]

Hanas, on 07 May 2014 - 06:51 PM, said:

Barely around atm. No-lynch is pathetic, esp at L-1 and like, 6 hours sitting at L-2 or something. Very frustrating; not sure how to proceed without reading up fully, lot of posts from Venesara it looks like.

Also, Demelain, you idiot, can you not read? You quoted PS where it shows my vote..then you say immediately after that I didn't vote. At least you can count, right? 9 votes + 6 alts on your list = 15 players. Fail.

Anthras - the word is "bated".

I literally have no time to comment on anything except these mundane details right now.

While you are technically correct the correct spelling is actually bated breath but it’s so common these days to see it written as baited breath that there’s every chance that it will soon become the usual form, to the disgust of conservative speakers and the confusion of dictionary writers. Examples in newspapers and magazines are legion; this one appeared in the Daily Mirror on 12 April 2003: “She hasn’t responded yet but Michael is waiting with baited breath”. It’s easy to mock, but there’s a real problem here. Bated and baited sound the same and we no longer use bated (let alone the verb to bate), outside this one set phrase, which has become an idiom. Confusion is almost inevitable. Bated here is a contraction of abated through loss of the unstressed first vowel (a process called aphesis); it means “reduced, lessened, lowered in force”. So bated breath refers to a state in which you almost stop breathing as a result of some strong emotion, such as terror or awe.

Shakespeare is the first writer known to use it, in The Merchant of Venice, in which Shylock says to Antonio: “Shall I bend low and, in a bondman’s key, / With bated breath and whisp’ring humbleness, / Say this ...”. Nearly three centuries later, Mark Twain employed it in Tom Sawyer: “Every eye fixed itself upon him; with parted lips and bated breath the audience hung upon his words, taking no note of time, rapt in the ghastly fascinations of the tale”.

For those who know the older spelling or who stop to consider the matter, baited breath evokes an incongruous image; Geoffrey Taylor humorously (and consciously) captured it in verse in his poem Cruel Clever Cat:

Sally, having swallowed cheese,
Directs down holes the scented breeze,
Enticing thus with baited breath
Nice mice to an untimely death.

[I’m indebted to Rainer Thonnes for telling me about this little ditty, which appears in an anthology called [i]Catscript[/i], edited by Marie Angel. However, it was first published in 1933 in a limited edition of Geoffrey Taylor’s poems entitled A Dash of Garlic.]

I stand by my use of baited because any language changes through time. One of the easiest examples is the word gay. But thank you for your thoughts.

[Korbas]

Anthras, on 07 May 2014 - 07:08 PM, said:

Hanas, on 07 May 2014 - 06:51 PM, said:

Barely around atm. No-lynch is pathetic, esp at L-1 and like, 6 hours sitting at L-2 or something. Very frustrating; not sure how to proceed without reading up fully, lot of posts from Venesara it looks like.

Also, Demelain, you idiot, can you not read? You quoted PS where it shows my vote..then you say immediately after that I didn't vote. At least you can count, right? 9 votes + 6 alts on your list = 15 players. Fail.

Anthras - the word is "bated".

I literally have no time to comment on anything except these mundane details right now.

While you are technically correct the correct spelling is actually bated breath but it's so common these days to see it written as baited breath that there's every chance that it will soon become the usual form, to the disgust of conservative speakers and the confusion of dictionary writers. Examples in newspapers and magazines are legion; this one appeared in the Daily Mirror on 12 April 2003: "She hasn't responded yet but Michael is waiting with baited breath". It's easy to mock, but there's a real problem here. Bated and baited sound the same and we no longer use bated (let alone the verb to bate), outside this one set phrase, which has become an idiom. Confusion is almost inevitable. Bated here is a contraction of abated through loss of the unstressed first vowel (a process called aphesis); it means "reduced, lessened, lowered in force". So bated breath refers to a state in which you almost stop breathing as a result of some strong emotion, such as terror or awe.

Shakespeare is the first writer known to use it, in The Merchant of Venice, in which Shylock says to Antonio: "Shall I bend low and, in a bondman's key, / With bated breath and whisp'ring humbleness, / Say this ...". Nearly three centuries later, Mark Twain employed it in Tom Sawyer: "Every eye fixed itself upon him; with parted lips and bated breath the audience hung upon his words, taking no note of time, rapt in the ghastly fascinations of the tale".

For those who know the older spelling or who stop to consider the matter, baited breath evokes an incongruous image; Geoffrey Taylor humorously (and consciously) captured it in verse in his poem Cruel Clever Cat:

Sally, having swallowed cheese,
Directs down holes the scented breeze,
Enticing thus with baited breath
Nice mice to an untimely death.

[I'm indebted to Rainer Thonnes for telling me about this little ditty, which appears in an anthology called [i]Catscript[/i], edited by Marie Angel. However, it was first published in 1933 in a limited edition of Geoffrey Taylor's poems entitled A Dash of Garlic.]

I stand by my use of baited because any language changes through time. One of the easiest examples is the word gay. But thank you for your thoughts.

Warning for the humour impaired: Joke incoming.


Of course you could also be covering the fact that you just slipped and told us that you like eating worms. Therefore "baited" would be very correct indeed. (Or that you have a piercing in the lip, tongue, or cheek.)

[Korbas]

Karatallid, on 06 May 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

Just checking in. The opening time for the thread coincided with a particularly long sleep/work/sleep/work cycle. I should be around a lot more tomorrow (hopefully).



Granted, Day One we really have nothing to go on with the current level of participation - I get the feeling the contracts speculation might distract us for a short while, which isn't entirely helpful. Scum don't have to keep using the same powers every night, so patterns etc in the killings may not be as reliable as normal, but at the end of the day they have to remove Town. By definition, unless a Town player has a really solid reason to believe someone is Scum, there should be no kills being thrown around that aren't Scum-on-Town. Long story short; we may end up hunting scum with more variable abilities, but Town should still be playing whatever abilities can be picked up for Town; so let's not get bogged down in too much mechanics speculation, eh?

Modkill time check. ~ 5 hours?

[Demelain]

Hanas, on 07 May 2014 - 06:51 PM, said:

Barely around atm. No-lynch is pathetic, esp at L-1 and like, 6 hours sitting at L-2 or something. Very frustrating; not sure how to proceed without reading up fully, lot of posts from Venesara it looks like.

Also, Demelain, you idiot, can you not read? You quoted PS where it shows my vote..then you say immediately after that I didn't vote. At least you can count, right? 9 votes + 6 alts on your list = 15 players. Fail.

Anthras - the word is "bated".

I literally have no time to comment on anything except these mundane details right now.

I neglected to delete your name. Admitted and noted.

As to wether I can read or not...we're in a book forum... did I guess my way in here? If you can handle quoting cases flawlessly on a small screen touch phone please continue being amazing. Mistakes will happen and did.

Please save antagonism for someone else that puts up with that bullshit.

[Tholen]

Korbas, on 07 May 2014 - 06:12 PM, said:

Anthras, on 07 May 2014 - 05:07 PM, said:

Demelain, on 07 May 2014 - 04:14 PM, said:

Anthras, on 07 May 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

As much as I would like to follow suit and relinquish my contract as Ven has done. I am not going to take that chance. I would rather be lynched.

Three ways to look at this.

--you're scum and know this will prove you're scum

--you're Town and you're holding onto a hugely vital ability

--You're town that picked up a scummy ability withholding the ability from scum but now cannot reveal as this will peg you as scum.


I'm not gonna ask you which category best fits you though it'd be great to get that somehow.

What are your thoughts on low posters?

Path-Shaper, on 07 May 2014 - 04:51 AM, said:

Day 1 timed out without a lynch.

1 votes for Anthras (Ay Estos)
7 votes for Venesara (Ryllandaras, Okaros, Anthras, Tholen, Korbas, Pran Chole, Hanas)
1 vote for Korbas (Venesara)


I'll start resolving night.

On the train I am certain Anthras was pushing Ven, it looks scummy to me but you can never be sure. I need to make my own read of Anthras in total. Anyone else pushing Ven looked legit on first glance. Would rather be sure of Anthras first I think so my vote on him is purely for information at this point.

Missing a vote are:
Myself, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan and Korvalain,

Aside from myself whom I am biased about I am suspecting these six hold scum? All save Korvalain are low posters which can not be entirely accepted on face value. This is the best place to look in as the lack of a hammer is telling in my opinion, good that it happened but also a bit suspicious considering. I'll look at the stories offered for absences to see if theres something to chew on there.
Need to read back now and track what players focused on Ven but did not hammer and work from there.

will be around for another 3 hours or so.

The low posters I don't really have a read on. I feel that Hanas is around and reading the thread enough to know what is going on but he is barely posting. As I am busy in RL and still able to post this much I wonder about him. The others I don't really have a feel for.

I can tell you that I am not the first choice that you put down at the top of your post. But I would state that regardless of whether I was town or scum. I have already defended anything that I said yesterday and will continue further down that path. I will only this time offer clarification on what I saw and said.

I stated what I saw when someone asked about it. I did not think the contracts being registered from the start was strange and particularly noteworthy. Especially since PS had requested provisional's when she sent out the alts and roles. Thus I didn't think that the people who were posting could have had any correlation to the people who were posting at the beginning of the game. However when Korbas asked if anyone remembered what was taken first. I replied with what I remembered. That however made me scum and lead to the creation of a seperate train from Venesara. Now I did and still do (although less that nobody else has claimed that contract) think that Venesara should have been lynched for

Venesara, on 06 May 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 03:14 PM, said:

Whoever has rupture: please, please be a good townie and hold onto that like it's a bottle of Glenfiddich. Never let it go and only open it on a very special occasion.

That is exactly what i would have done, if I was townie and I had received that role. So hopefully a townie did get it and will hold it back.

That is what we call a slip and should lead to someone to be lynched just on the off chance that they are scum. Venesara admitted and agreed with that. When town says something like that the amount of did he mean it could he be scum in later days of a game can lead to focus on that single player. I have seen it before lots of times. Thus my wanting to lynch him. All of which I stated when I pressed for his lynch. All of which I stand by because it is the right way to think in that situation.

I'm reserving judgement until I hear what a couple of other folks have to say. Tholen mostly. Pran Chol and Hanas as well. Simply because they actually said pertinent things yesterday.

I'll be back on for serious discussion in approx 3 hrs, give or take.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 17 hours and 57 minutes remain. ~2 hours left for registration.

12 players are alive: Anthras, Demelain, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Tholen, Venesara

7 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.


2 votes for Anthras (Venesara, Demelain)

[Path-Shaper]

Just an FYI, I may be quite on-and-off tonight, so may not be here right when registration ends. In that case, I will check time stamps and resolve based on what was submitted by the time registration closed, if anything.

[Kaschan]

hokay, home, will try to finally make heads or tails of this game.

[Korbas]

Korvalain, on 07 May 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

Venesara, on 07 May 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

I have relinquished my role, so therefore I am able to reveal it.

Quote

Reveals - Since all contracts are posted and updated publicly, you may not reveal or discuss your current contract, nor the results of the abilities it gave you. You may, however, reveal and discuss freely any prior contracts you have held. You are allowed to reveal anything you like in lover conversations, and you may reveal on-thread anything told to you by a lover.

Furthermore, you may not reveal your registration order on-thread.

Stone and Material absorption.

I had this and therefore could not kill.

Nice call. Was the BP used? I doubt it given you were flavour of the lynch but worth checking.

The no NA tonight makes you a safe bet should we need to deposit an ability out of harms way - RIO for instance or should scum release a killing role for one of the new ones

That is a good question.

[Korbas]

Venesara, on 07 May 2014 - 11:54 AM, said:

I also just noticed that both Okaros and Ay Estos were vocal players yet not the top poster of the game. Korbas was left untouched.

You just (then) noticed that 2 of the top 3 mouthiest died. Have you noticed that there are only 2 same night NK's registered? The 3rd being Pyrokinesis and it takes 4 days to be able to use it as an NK.

Who else did Korbas vote day one?

Without going back to look: Demelain pressure vote. He showed. Switched to Karatallid. Then removed to vote Anthras. Finally you because the Anthras case wasn't going anywhere.

We have many hours yet. But nobody is talking. If scum are going to kill the vocals, Ven or I are it for tonight so no reason for me to shut up now.

I want to hear what others have to say about Venesara, Anthras, and myself.

Venesara
62
Korbas
50
Okaros
40
Ay Estos
28
Path-Shaper
27
Korvalain
24
Anthras
19
Pran Chole
14
Tholen
13
Kaschan
10
Demelain
7
Hanas
7
Ryllandaras
6
Hentos Ilm
3
Karatallid
1


I'm going to do this just because his last one was so fucking smugly scummy. Or scummily smug.

Hentos Ilm, on 07 May 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

Meh. I am finally here, but my workday is crazy and my spare time will be equally so. I'm stuck at page 3 for half the afternoon and I don't see it getting better in the next hour.
I fear I will have to postpone involvement until my workday tomorrow.

Vote Hentos Ilm

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 15 hours and 13 minutes remain.

12 players are alive: Anthras, Demelain, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Tholen, Venesara

7 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.


2 votes for Anthras (Venesara, Demelain)
1 vote for Hentos Ilm (Korbas)

Registration is done for today. Contract list updated.

[Kaschan]

Korvalain, on 06 May 2014 - 01:24 PM, said:

Urgh, my work day sucks. Going to be around off-and-on for the next few hours then out for a while. I see nothing much has happened.

I like that Korbas caught changes to the contracts as they happened - pre the 18 hour point we can CI those who claimed the later contracts I'd think. No way do I think we have 5 scum who all know each other, even if all town are roled. Hentos hits the nail on the head here:

Hentos Ilm, on 06 May 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

Regarding the taking of contracts: since there are priority lists, it seems to me as if the confirmed contracts were the top of the priority-lists. If someone at a low priority requests a contract and higher prio players haven't checked in/submitted yet, those would be on hold, I imagine.

So the first 5 cleared in a single go, implying the contract holders had submitted choices between the PMs going out on Saturday and that point in time, the next 3 went in once the 6th alt in order made their choice so likely 7 of 8 had made their list before game started/early 1st day.

I think scum have slipped up - Mafia is a game of information. They didn't take the Finder contract. That is information that could have been denied town, instead we got it. The multi-Lover one has benefits for both sides, slightly in favour of scum since they'd already know everyone on team and can set up comms.

There is 6 contracts outstanding, assuming everyone checks in please make sure you take one - even if only to deny it to scum.
Grabbing the NK (on N+1) and the bi-daily Vig is typical scum and makes me wonder at the OP - it says town start with no abilities, it doesn't say that scum don't start with any. If they get the extra kills on top of existing NKs then tonight is going to be hell.

Korbas, what did you mean Possession could go either way?

Contract VM-460 | Spectral Contract Manipulation - this wasn't up last time I checked the OP, will we need to keep checking back to look for changes or will the list be posted more frequently?

just posting random thoughts, but I really don't like the underlined. It seems like a really wrong thing to say. like "hey, you guys who know I'm scum, listen to me-kill the finder!" igmeoy

[Korbas]

Path-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

Current Contract List


DM-872 | Rupture Internal Organs
Registered

XY-170 | Blood-Induced Matter Transportation
Registered

JW-157 | Shapeshifting
Open

OV-724 | Hallucination
Expired

EZ-674 | Gravity Amplification
Registered



GT-131 | Molecular Reconstitution
Expired



PJ-531 | Spatial Teleportation
Open


GC-817 | Invisibility
Registered


UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization
Registered


KN-042 | Stone & Metal Material Absorption
Registered


XR-821 | Hormonal Attraction Amplification
Registered


GW-345 | Fog Generation
Registered


DP-391 | Information Absorption
Registered


HW-702 | Possession
Registered

XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis
Open



TZ-959 | Pyrokinesis
Open


GE-978 | Chronokinesis
Registered


ID-362 | Remote Inert Organic Sensing and Disintegration
Closed until Day 3


MR-433 | Magic
Closed until Day 3

MC-198 | Impenetrable Infinite Force-field Creation
Closed until Day 3


VM-460 | Spectral Contract Manipulation
Closed. Only unlocked under particular hidden circumstances. Might not be opened all game.

[Kaschan]

Path-Shaper, on 06 May 2014 - 05:24 PM, said:

It is a day, bright and sunny, as merry as can be.
A day when one cannot help but make up poetry.

PS took the Fog Generation contract?

[Korbas]

At 2:52:


OV-724 | Hallucination
Expired
GT-131 | Molecular Reconstitution
Expired




JW-157 | Shapeshifting
Open
PJ-531 | Spatial Teleportation
Open
KN-042 | Stone & Metal Material Absorption
Open
XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis
Open
TZ-959 | Pyrokinesis
Open
GE-978 | Chronokinesis
Open


DM-872 | Rupture Internal Organs
Registered

XY-170 | Blood-Induced Matter Transportation
Registered

EZ-674 | Gravity Amplification
Registered

GC-817 | Invisibility
Registered

UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization
Registered

XR-821 | Hormonal Attraction Amplification
Registered

GW-345 | Fog Generation
Registered

DP-391 | Information Absorption
Registered

HW-702 | Possession
Registered


12 live players. 9 contracts registered. 5 open.

At close of registration:

OV-724 | Hallucination Expired
GT-131 | Molecular Reconstitution Expired


PJ-531 | Spatial Teleportation Open
JW-157 | Shapeshifting Open
XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis Open


TZ-959 | Pyrokinesis Open
DM-872 | Rupture Internal Organs Registered
XY-170 | Blood-Induced Matter Transportation Registered
EZ-674 | Gravity Amplification Registered
GC-817 | Invisibility Registered
UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization Registered
KN-042 | Stone & Metal Material Absorption Registered
XR-821 | Hormonal Attraction Amplification Registered
GW-345 | Fog Generation Registered
DP-391 | Information Absorption Registered
HW-702 | Possession Registered
GE-978 | Chronokinesis Registered

12 live players. 11 registered. 3 open.

Difference:


KN-042 | Stone & Metal Material Absorption
GE-978 | Chronokinesis

[Korbas]

At this point I don't care whether discussion of mechanics helps or benefits town or scum more. The text on this is simple enough it doesn't matter. Whomever picked this up:

GE-978 | Chronokinesis
Ability: Each night, you may choose a target player. Any effects applied to that player (healing, freezing, death, etc) on the previous night are retroactively undone (including potentially bringing them back to life).

Necro Blend.

[Korbas]

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 12:52 AM, said:

At this point I don't care whether discussion of mechanics helps or benefits town or scum more. The text on this is simple enough it doesn't matter. Whomever picked this up:

GE-978 | Chronokinesis
Ability: Each night, you may choose a target player. Any effects applied to that player (healing, freezing, death, etc) on the previous night are retroactively undone (including potentially bringing them back to life).

Necro Blend.

Technically that would be: Necro Okaros.

[Korbas]

Demelain, on 07 May 2014 - 04:14 PM, said:

Anthras, on 07 May 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

As much as I would like to follow suit and relinquish my contract as Ven has done. I am not going to take that chance. I would rather be lynched.

Three ways to look at this.

--you're scum and know this will prove you're scum

--you're Town and you're holding onto a hugely vital ability

--You're town that picked up a scummy ability withholding the ability from scum but now cannot reveal as this will peg you as scum.


I'm not gonna ask you which category best fits you though it'd be great to get that somehow.

What are your thoughts on low posters?

Path-Shaper, on 07 May 2014 - 04:51 AM, said:

Day 1 timed out without a lynch.

1 votes for Anthras (Ay Estos)
7 votes for Venesara (Ryllandaras, Okaros, Anthras, Tholen, Korbas, Pran Chole, Hanas)
1 vote for Korbas (Venesara)


I'll start resolving night.

On the train I am certain Anthras was pushing Ven, it looks scummy to me but you can never be sure. I need to make my own read of Anthras in total. Anyone else pushing Ven looked legit on first glance. Would rather be sure of Anthras first I think so my vote on him is purely for information at this point.

Missing a vote are:
Myself, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan and Korvalain,

Aside from myself whom I am biased about I am suspecting these six hold scum? All save Korvalain are low posters which can not be entirely accepted on face value. This is the best place to look in as the lack of a hammer is telling in my opinion, good that it happened but also a bit suspicious considering. I'll look at the stories offered for absences to see if theres something to chew on there.
Need to read back now and track what players focused on Ven but did not hammer and work from there.

will be around for another 3 hours or so.

The underlined is a good point. Of course most of those don't have stories because they haven't fucking posted. Karatallid passed the timer an hour ago so I'm assuming he's going to be a modkill.