[Kaschan]

Anthras, on 07 May 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

As much as I would like to follow suit and relinquish my contract as Ven has done. I am not going to take that chance. I would rather be lynched.

que?

[Kaschan]

I've actually had much more stuff I wanted to quote, but most of Day 1 seemingly revolved around the discussion of Hallucination, which is moot, since the peson who picked it is dead and the contract expired.




Currently we have Venesara, Korbas and Antras as persons of interest.

Ven has made a slip. and yet everyone and their dog seem to consider them inno, but want to vote them off anyway. I've never seen the merit in this argument, esp about day 1 lynches.

Anthras gets a lot of attention, because of his story re: early registrants and some other stuff. I particularly dislike his comment that elicited my previous post. Inclined to vote him just for that.

Korbas seems to play the reasonable player. The criticism of him seems to be: 2nd and 3rd highest posters were NK-ed, why not top poster? The question is so much WIFOM it's not even funny.

Also, some suspicions in my mind about Korv.

Hmm. gonna sleep on it before voting.

[Ryllandaras]

Hey all, sorry I've been absent so long, couldn't be helped. I haven't even read the thread since my last post. I'll try to catch up now.

[Ryllandaras]

Right, read up. I'm off the Venesara suspicion and am convinced it was an unfortunately worded statement. Even if we suspect that Ven could be lying about dropping the BP ability, that still leaves us with them either dropping Spatial Teleportation or not having picked one up in the first place, right? In any of those cases, Venesara could not have had a kill.

Moreover, I like their posting today and it's brought up a few others to talk about. And talking about a few others, I'm not hot on the Anthras case either just now. I just have a feeling we might be barking up the wrong tree there as we did with Venesara. I think the next port of call is to look at some of the others on the Ven train yesterday.

[Venesara]

So how long left in today, are we going to seriously no lynch again?

[Korbas]

I've got a vote on Hentos. Perfectly willing to vote Anthras for the same reason as yesterday Plus comment about rather being lynched than relinquish his current contract.

I'd vote you if things swing that way. You never did say whether your BP was hit.

[Venesara]

Remove Vote

Vote Hentos Ilm

Not sure if scum lying low, but i'd prefer to get rid of an unknown with little posts. Karatallid is going to be modkilled and d day will rapidly approach I think if we don't get our acts together.

[Venesara]

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 07:23 AM, said:

I've got a vote on Hentos. Perfectly willing to vote Anthras for the same reason as yesterday Plus comment about rather being lynched than relinquish his current contract.

I'd vote you if things swing that way. You never did say whether your BP was hit.

I was unsure whether that was against reveals. I do not think it was. That's the best I can give you on that I think

[Korbas]

Path-Shaper, on 07 May 2014 - 11:47 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 15 hours and 13 minutes remain.

12 players are alive: Anthras, Demelain, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Tholen, Venesara

7 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.


2 votes for Anthras (Venesara, Demelain)
1 vote for Hentos Ilm (Korbas)

Registration is done for today. Contract list updated.

that was last update i think.

[Korbas]

so 7.5 hours or so?

[Korbas]

math ain't my strong point at this current time

[Demelain]

Kaschan, on 08 May 2014 - 02:07 AM, said:

I've actually had much more stuff I wanted to quote, but most of Day 1 seemingly revolved around the discussion of Hallucination, which is moot, since the peson who picked it is dead and the contract expired.




Currently we have Venesara, Korbas and Antras as persons of interest.

Ven has made a slip. and yet everyone and their dog seem to consider them inno, but want to vote them off anyway. I've never seen the merit in this argument, esp about day 1 lynches.

Anthras gets a lot of attention, because of his story re: early registrants and some other stuff. I particularly dislike his comment that elicited my previous post. Inclined to vote him just for that.

Korbas seems to play the reasonable player. The criticism of him seems to be: 2nd and 3rd highest posters were NK-ed, why not top poster? The question is so much WIFOM it's not even funny.

Also, some suspicions in my mind about Korv.

Hmm. gonna sleep on it before voting.

i like this post. too bad several players have gone silent. im interested in what you have to say on korv.

bit unsure what you mean about ven? i thought we were unable to lie about reveals? or was that not expressly stated? still vens posting still looks positive. im not sure if i can pi him if the reveal could be a lie?

the founding vote train didnt convince me though. im still more inclined to believe ven townie.

nothing looks certain at this point. maybe we can get the low posters to speak up.

my hunch on anthras relies on ven being pi. if i remove, it will be to land a vote on ven the opposite end of the coin. really one of the two looks like the best lead on thread and anthras still looks most likely to me.

(sorry for grammer, texting from work.)

[Demelain]

hmmn just read up.

look if we need a lynch sure i'll switch to hentos. still feel the anthras or ven situation needs resolving. will be here close to timeout if switch is necessary.

[Venesara]

Demelain, on 08 May 2014 - 07:37 AM, said:

Kaschan, on 08 May 2014 - 02:07 AM, said:

I've actually had much more stuff I wanted to quote, but most of Day 1 seemingly revolved around the discussion of Hallucination, which is moot, since the peson who picked it is dead and the contract expired.




Currently we have Venesara, Korbas and Antras as persons of interest.

Ven has made a slip. and yet everyone and their dog seem to consider them inno, but want to vote them off anyway. I've never seen the merit in this argument, esp about day 1 lynches.

Anthras gets a lot of attention, because of his story re: early registrants and some other stuff. I particularly dislike his comment that elicited my previous post. Inclined to vote him just for that.

Korbas seems to play the reasonable player. The criticism of him seems to be: 2nd and 3rd highest posters were NK-ed, why not top poster? The question is so much WIFOM it's not even funny.

Also, some suspicions in my mind about Korv.

Hmm. gonna sleep on it before voting.

i like this post. too bad several players have gone silent. im interested in what you have to say on korv.

bit unsure what you mean about ven? i thought we were unable to lie about reveals? or was that not expressly stated? still vens posting still looks positive. im not sure if i can pi him if the reveal could be a lie?

the founding vote train didnt convince me though. im still more inclined to believe ven townie.

nothing looks certain at this point. maybe we can get the low posters to speak up.

my hunch on anthras relies on ven being pi. if i remove, it will be to land a vote on ven the opposite end of the coin. really one of the two looks like the best lead on thread and anthras still looks most likely to me.

(sorry for grammer, texting from work.)

I agree Demelain, the problem is, Anthras is around to add his vote to a train whereas others have not been so we may need him for the lynch.

[Hentos Ilm]

Demelain, on 08 May 2014 - 08:33 AM, said:

hmmn just read up.

look if we need a lynch sure i'll switch to hentos. still feel the anthras or ven situation needs resolving. will be here close to timeout if switch is necessary.

While I feel a vote on me is warranted with regard to the amount of time I have been able to put into the game so far, which, let's be honest, isn't much at all, I do feel it's a cheap way out. Yesterday was likely to end without a lynch, which is why, in hindsight, the Shapeshifting talent would have been a good purchase for me.

Now that I potentially have a bit more time (you should see this in the next few hours), I feel that was a waste for today and as such, a vote to remove me for not contributing is (hopefully) going to be a wasted vote as well.

[Demelain]

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 09:46 AM, said:

Demelain, on 08 May 2014 - 07:37 AM, said:

Kaschan, on 08 May 2014 - 02:07 AM, said:

I've actually had much more stuff I wanted to quote, but most of Day 1 seemingly revolved around the discussion of Hallucination, which is moot, since the peson who picked it is dead and the contract expired.




Currently we have Venesara, Korbas and Antras as persons of interest.

Ven has made a slip. and yet everyone and their dog seem to consider them inno, but want to vote them off anyway. I've never seen the merit in this argument, esp about day 1 lynches.

Anthras gets a lot of attention, because of his story re: early registrants and some other stuff. I particularly dislike his comment that elicited my previous post. Inclined to vote him just for that.

Korbas seems to play the reasonable player. The criticism of him seems to be: 2nd and 3rd highest posters were NK-ed, why not top poster? The question is so much WIFOM it's not even funny.

Also, some suspicions in my mind about Korv.

Hmm. gonna sleep on it before voting.

i like this post. too bad several players have gone silent. im interested in what you have to say on korv.

bit unsure what you mean about ven? i thought we were unable to lie about reveals? or was that not expressly stated? still vens posting still looks positive. im not sure if i can pi him if the reveal could be a lie?

the founding vote train didnt convince me though. im still more inclined to believe ven townie.

nothing looks certain at this point. maybe we can get the low posters to speak up.

my hunch on anthras relies on ven being pi. if i remove, it will be to land a vote on ven the opposite end of the coin. really one of the two looks like the best lead on thread and anthras still looks most likely to me.

(sorry for grammer, texting from work.)

I agree Demelain, the problem is, Anthras is around to add his vote to a train whereas others have not been so we may need him for the lynch.

Ok cool im gonna go ahead and

remove vote

vote hentos ilm

it seems we need the lynch more than the info a vote on anthras might deliver. this will be the more responsible play.

im out for the next 5 hours i think.

will try check in if i get time.

This post has been edited by Demelain: 08 May 2014 - 11:10 AM

[Korvalain]

Korbas, on 07 May 2014 - 06:35 PM, said:

Korvalain, I like your analyses. Where did you disappear to yesterday?

The usual excuse I'm afraid - RL

Korbas, on 07 May 2014 - 11:40 PM, said:

Venesara, on 07 May 2014 - 11:54 AM, said:

I also just noticed that both Okaros and Ay Estos were vocal players yet not the top poster of the game. Korbas was left untouched.

You just (then) noticed that 2 of the top 3 mouthiest died. Have you noticed that there are only 2 same night NK's registered? The 3rd being Pyrokinesis and it takes 4 days to be able to use it as an NK.

Who else did Korbas vote day one?

Without going back to look: Demelain pressure vote. He showed. Switched to Karatallid. Then removed to vote Anthras. Finally you because the Anthras case wasn't going anywhere.

We have many hours yet. But nobody is talking. If scum are going to kill the vocals, Ven or I are it for tonight so no reason for me to shut up now.

I want to hear what others have to say about Venesara, Anthras, and myself.

Venesara
62
Korbas
50
Okaros
40
Ay Estos
28
Path-Shaper
27
Korvalain
24
Anthras
19
Pran Chole
14
Tholen
13
Kaschan
10
Demelain
7
Hanas
7
Ryllandaras
6
Hentos Ilm
3
Karatallid
1


I'm going to do this just because his last one was so fucking smugly scummy. Or scummily smug.

Hentos Ilm, on 07 May 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

Meh. I am finally here, but my workday is crazy and my spare time will be equally so. I'm stuck at page 3 for half the afternoon and I don't see it getting better in the next hour.
I fear I will have to postpone involvement until my workday tomorrow.

Vote Hentos Ilm

What about me?

Kaschan, on 08 May 2014 - 12:00 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 06 May 2014 - 01:24 PM, said:

Urgh, my work day sucks. Going to be around off-and-on for the next few hours then out for a while. I see nothing much has happened.

I like that Korbas caught changes to the contracts as they happened - pre the 18 hour point we can CI those who claimed the later contracts I'd think. No way do I think we have 5 scum who all know each other, even if all town are roled. Hentos hits the nail on the head here:

Hentos Ilm, on 06 May 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

Regarding the taking of contracts: since there are priority lists, it seems to me as if the confirmed contracts were the top of the priority-lists. If someone at a low priority requests a contract and higher prio players haven't checked in/submitted yet, those would be on hold, I imagine.

So the first 5 cleared in a single go, implying the contract holders had submitted choices between the PMs going out on Saturday and that point in time, the next 3 went in once the 6th alt in order made their choice so likely 7 of 8 had made their list before game started/early 1st day.

I think scum have slipped up - Mafia is a game of information. They didn't take the Finder contract. That is information that could have been denied town, instead we got it. The multi-Lover one has benefits for both sides, slightly in favour of scum since they'd already know everyone on team and can set up comms.

There is 6 contracts outstanding, assuming everyone checks in please make sure you take one - even if only to deny it to scum.
Grabbing the NK (on N+1) and the bi-daily Vig is typical scum and makes me wonder at the OP - it says town start with no abilities, it doesn't say that scum don't start with any. If they get the extra kills on top of existing NKs then tonight is going to be hell.

Korbas, what did you mean Possession could go either way?

Contract VM-460 | Spectral Contract Manipulation - this wasn't up last time I checked the OP, will we need to keep checking back to look for changes or will the list be posted more frequently?

just posting random thoughts, but I really don't like the underlined. It seems like a really wrong thing to say. like "hey, you guys who know I'm scum, listen to me-kill the finder!" igmeoy

Well any scum that need telling to kill the finder are going to NK each other night 1 so I don't think we need to worry in that regard. Are you saying you think I knew who the finder was at that point and was pointing them out?

[Venesara]

Dem, try to be here before timeout. With so little interaction I have no way in telling which way the vote will swing.

[Korvalain]

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 10:54 AM, said:

Dem, try to be here before timeout. With so little interaction I have no way in telling which way the vote will swing.

I'm more confident of Anthras as town than I am of Hentos so I'm more inclined to vote Hentos. I don't think it'll tell us much though with only 4 posts all game.

[Korvalain]

Hentos Ilm, on 08 May 2014 - 10:36 AM, said:

Demelain, on 08 May 2014 - 08:33 AM, said:

hmmn just read up.

look if we need a lynch sure i'll switch to hentos. still feel the anthras or ven situation needs resolving. will be here close to timeout if switch is necessary.

While I feel a vote on me is warranted with regard to the amount of time I have been able to put into the game so far, which, let's be honest, isn't much at all, I do feel it's a cheap way out. Yesterday was likely to end without a lynch, which is why, in hindsight, the Shapeshifting talent would have been a good purchase for me.

Now that I potentially have a bit more time (you should see this in the next few hours), I feel that was a waste for today and as such, a vote to remove me for not contributing is (hopefully) going to be a wasted vote as well.

Hentos, explain the underlined please. Why would changing your CF benefit anyone other than scum?

If you're town and you CF as town we play on

If you're town and you CF as scum we look to draw what we can from that. This sends us down the wrong path.

If you're scum and you CF as scum we draw what knowledge we can from that and potentially find a valid trail (or in your case probably not)

If you're scum and you CF as town we stop looking too hard at who you may be associated with because hey, you were town.

Which one of these sounds even remotely useful for town that in hindsight you would choose to go for it?


I think you slipped.

Vote Hentos