[Alkend]

Ampelas, on 02 April 2014 - 10:30 PM, said:

Denul, on 02 April 2014 - 10:28 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 02 April 2014 - 10:27 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 31 March 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

Town roles have no abilities at level 0-4, and get a (one-time) ability at level 5.
What scum has, is unknown. Of course.

Yeah, but I'm talking about in a later post. When he schooled us.

clarification

p-s explicitly stated there are no levels past 5

i can find the post if you really want

Previous Spycraft games would also support having a hard limit to the levels that is the same for everyone.

[Alkend]

Korabas, on 03 April 2014 - 02:48 AM, said:

Wait, wait, rewind. Makes sure he is on the train. Could Eloth have hammered, even though such an action would draw attention, to prove townie-ness by bringing down scum? I would bet dollars to dimes scum was on GL's train for such a reason, but either very early in the train, before it had any notion of picking up steam, or very late, when the train was already running at full tilt. Keep in mind that Rikkter, OL, and Amp also fall into this suspect pool. I plan on at least addressing the first 2 later, if I have a chance.

Really? You think scum would have early in day 1 voted for their fellow scum just so that if he wound up getting lynched they would have deniability? That seems awfully risky compared to just not voting him early and trying to not be down a scum day 1!

[Alkend]

Ampelas, on 03 April 2014 - 04:29 AM, said:

fuck it is late, that took a lot longer than i thought. am i right in saying we have 30 minutes left?

Yeah, it's about 35-40 minutes left now.

[Alkend]

And Tiam is definitely at L-1 (I double-counted just to be sure)

[Ampelas]

yeah ok, damn, i wanted to get a full reread in before time out but i don't think i will be able to. i will try to focus on a few things then since we have so little time

[Ampelas]

Alkend, on 03 April 2014 - 04:36 AM, said:

And Tiam is definitely at L-1 (I double-counted just to be sure)

oh good to know, thanks for checking, i was not sure. tbh i am almost certainly putting my vote there but i simply want to add a few things to my suspicions of tiam before voting

if you have other thoughts too we can use the little time we have left to discuss, think it's jsut us around right now

[Ampelas]

Tiamatha, on 03 April 2014 - 12:52 AM, said:

I have been a bad townie. A very, very bad townie.


Aside from trying to get us to 600 posts, I haven't been playing the game.


I put out the grouchy gorilla line because I knew that commenting on an alt's features always stirs up accusations of signalling, and Galayn and Ampelas were sooo obliging in taking it further. I made the comment about Ampelas should be voting for Monok for the same reasons, because I knew it would get people talking about Monok.

I wanted to see Monok lynched from the beginning. I supported him on day 1 because I wanted those feelings of me symp to his master to grow.

Unfortunately, Galayn first being unable to avoid the spotlight, and then turning out to be scum (and I really, truly didn't think that would happen) really put a huge spanner in the works. So I tried, half-heartedly, a different tactic today.


In my read-up of Galayn, I found a fair few posts which would suggest that he and Monok are not linked. I, of course, ignored those and didn't bring them up.



Having said all that, this is not me saying that Monok is inno. The posts suggest he might be, but nothing is certain. In any case, that was not why I was throwing in things which would attract suspicion his way.

ok

this bothers me for the same reason that everything tiam has said this game bothers me in some way - he almost never (please point out where if i am wrong) says who he actually believes to be scum. he frequently says people are probably NOT scum, but i don't think he's made a single post where he's even said something like "this is a scummy post" or "X player is pinging my scumdar" or "i don't even know why but i think this person is scum." that is absolute bullshit and no SHIT is it bad town play. i hate the post above even more for this reason - tiam is laying out his thoughts, and you know, i have to even second guess myself at this point because tiam probably knows hes going to be lynched but still takes the time to make this weird post about how he's been playing his own game of subtext and deception while the rest of us were running around trying to find scum on day 1 (which almost never happens but damn if we havent had a run of good luck in the past few games).

so i i know "hate" is a strong word but it just screams "not town" to me. i will go back and now dig up some posts where i directly asked tiam to say who he thought was scum and he never did and still hasn't, iirc

[Alkend]

I've been mostly focusing on the Tiam discussion, as I think with this small game size there will be fewer voices than usual. Honestly, I think Tiam's defence raises some good points and I do have a hard time seeing the weird Lock thing as something scum would bother trying to do late in day 1 when their partner was almost certainly already going down. He didn't blow a gasket or shrug off the case on him, but didn't robotically defend either the way a lot of scum often do (where you can kind of see them after the fact going through the motions of defending and consciously raining in their emotions to look more genuine, but they end up sounding a bit dry).

It's an interesting situation, too, since we know for sure that if Tiam is inno he can provide another 1x ability tonight which could be very useful, so the default town stance of "even though I have reservations, I favour the lynch over no-lynch to remove him clouding up the thread further" doesn't quite apply as much here as it usually does. Still, enough people obviously have suspicions on him that I would still support a lynch on him at this juncture over no lynch, because all those people will still want his CF tomorrow anyways.

[Alkend]

I'm doing a read-up on Kesso, will drop my thoughts on him soon but obviously that is more for tomorrow than now.

I'd like to head to bed right after - Amp are you staying around to hammer or would you like me to before I leave?

[Path-Shaper]

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Ok, leveling question before you zonk out.

Say we lynch somebody at post 442 while you're asleep. People keep posting. We go over 460 before you wake up.

How would that affect the levels and any abilities tied to them?

Lynch happens, startbof night everyone is level 3. Start of fhr next day, I count again. So the gap has an influence on day actions.


Edited for clarity

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 03 April 2014 - 04:56 AM

[Ampelas]

Alkend, on 03 April 2014 - 04:50 AM, said:

I'm doing a read-up on Kesso, will drop my thoughts on him soon but obviously that is more for tomorrow than now.

I'd like to head to bed right after - Amp are you staying around to hammer or would you like me to before I leave?

i will be here

i don't have time to post everything i want to about tiam but i will drop what i have in a second and vote

[Path-Shaper]

4 minutes left according to my phone.

6 votes for Tiamatha (6 people)

[Ampelas]

p-s, do we have like 2 minutes left? i do not want to fuck up the lynch, can you give a time update?

[Ampelas]

xpost, ok, thanks

[Alkend]

Okay, so Kessobahn. 25 posts, I break them down as follows:

1 post is his recent adding himself to the Tiam train, part of his reasoning/explanation being "You guys can decide his fate"
13 posts are short little spam/fluff/little tidbits posts that don't really do anything
6 posts are little one-line comments about the game that you could consider to be contributing
5 posts are short questions, either directed at someone or just open-ended, like this:

Kessobahn, on 02 April 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

If people are starting to feel Amp is inno and MO was framed, then Tiam is the most likely bad guy, right?

Note he did not vote at all on day 1.

All his posts are extremely short, and there aren't a ton of them. There's little questions and teeny opinion statements, but never any strong opinions, accusations or anything that is really "putting himself out there". In short, Kesso is not really playing much, he is so far just tagging along. I would really like to see him up his game and make bigger contributions to the thread that we can analyze, or else I think it would be valid to start looking at him as potential coasting scum.

[Alkend]

Alright well with 2 min left I'm not taking chances!

Vote Tiam

[Ampelas]

it is too risky to wait and post so i will vote and drop posts afterward

remove vote
vote tiam

[Alkend]

Really though, I thought we had at least 10-15 min left. I guess I am late night maths fail.

[Alkend]

Ha, great minds think alike

[Bek Okhan]

Path-Shaper, on 03 April 2014 - 04:57 AM, said:

4 minutes left according to my phone.

6 votes for Tiamatha (6 people)

Would Day actions be noted in posts like these after they happen?