[Eloth]

I will do my best to sort my thoughts out and get them in coherent form. The least I can do since I won't be voting this particular cycle.

[Denul]

 Eloth, on 03 April 2014 - 05:39 PM, said:

Should be. I went to take a nap. Somewhere in there I must have said fuck it and went to bed. It was 7 am when I woke up.

Where'd you find the TMDI info? I re-read the 101 thread and didn't see it.

TMDI info is in the OP of the Mod Thread.

 Jump Around, on 13 June 2008 - 11:34 AM, said:

Twisted Mindfuck of Doom Index (Rating System):

TMDI:1 = X+Y players, X roleless innocents, Y killers
TMDI:2 = As 1, but a small number of simple roles. Eg: 12 players, 2 Killers, Symp, Healer, BP/Vig.
TMDI:3 = Large number of simple roles.
TMDI:4 = Small number of rare/complex/unique roles or mechanics.
TMDI:5 = Multiple threats to town. Eg: Cult/Serial Killer/Second scum faction.
TMDI:6 = Large number of rare/complex/unique roles or mechanics.
TMDI:7 = No discernible town and scum... ie: factions/cults only.
TMDI:8 = As 7, but with Large number of simple roles and/or uneven teams.
TMDI:9 = As 7, but with Large number of rare/complex or unique roles and/or uneven teams.
TMDI:10 = ROYAL MINDFUCK. As 7, 8 & 9 plus screwy unheard-of mechanics... ie:LOST mafia.
TMDI:10+ = FIELD RESEARCH: multi-faction games with numerous unusual/experimental mechanics, and unrevealed details. ie: HEROES, Reality Dysfunction.
numerous unusual/experimental mechanics, and unrevealed details. ie: HEROES, Reality Dysfunction.

[Bek Okhan]

TMDi info I got from an SH thread a few games back.

I can post the whole thing if you'd like?

[Ampelas]

ok so i fell asleep post lynch. i am back off and on right now.

first question

 Eloth, on 03 April 2014 - 05:43 PM, said:

I will do my best to sort my thoughts out and get them in coherent form. The least I can do since I won't be voting this particular cycle.

why aren't you voting? did i miss something already posted?

[Denul]

 Path-Shaper, on 03 April 2014 - 06:40 AM, said:

Tiamatha is dead. He was René Artouille, an EU spy (RI) and Khellendros

Yeah, I hate to say I told you so, but....

[Bek Okhan]

ah cross post.

[Bek Okhan]

 Denul, on 03 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

 Path-Shaper, on 03 April 2014 - 06:40 AM, said:

Tiamatha is dead. He was René Artouille, an EU spy (RI) and Khellendros

Yeah, I hate to say I told you so, but....

but what?

[Eloth]

 Ampelas, on 03 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

ok so i fell asleep post lynch. i am back off and on right now.

first question

 Eloth, on 03 April 2014 - 05:43 PM, said:

I will do my best to sort my thoughts out and get them in coherent form. The least I can do since I won't be voting this particular cycle.

why aren't you voting? did i miss something already posted?

Not my idea.

[Ampelas]

 Eloth, on 03 April 2014 - 05:56 PM, said:

 Ampelas, on 03 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

ok so i fell asleep post lynch. i am back off and on right now.

first question

 Eloth, on 03 April 2014 - 05:43 PM, said:

I will do my best to sort my thoughts out and get them in coherent form. The least I can do since I won't be voting this particular cycle.

why aren't you voting? did i miss something already posted?

Not my idea.

very interesting....

[Eloth]

 Denul, on 03 April 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

TMDI info is in the OP of the Mod Thread.

Thank you.

[Ampelas]

 Bek Okhan, on 03 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

 Denul, on 03 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

 Path-Shaper, on 03 April 2014 - 06:40 AM, said:

Tiamatha is dead. He was René Artouille, an EU spy (RI) and Khellendros

Yeah, I hate to say I told you so, but....

but what?

but "he told you so," i'm sure. denul, wtf? there was a lot of heat on tiam, his reveal about fucking around on day 1 made him look suspicious, he didn't respond to my questions and didn't point out scum - he was a clear target. what made you so sure he was town, again?

[Eloth]

 Ampelas, on 03 April 2014 - 05:57 PM, said:

 Eloth, on 03 April 2014 - 05:56 PM, said:

 Ampelas, on 03 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

why aren't you voting? did i miss something already posted?

Not my idea.

very interesting....

I thought so myself. Rather irritating as well.

[Ampelas]

 Eloth, on 03 April 2014 - 06:00 PM, said:

 Ampelas, on 03 April 2014 - 05:57 PM, said:

 Eloth, on 03 April 2014 - 05:56 PM, said:

 Ampelas, on 03 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

why aren't you voting? did i miss something already posted?

Not my idea.

very interesting....

I thought so myself. Rather irritating as well.

hold on, someone mentioned this before...let me find this post

[Ampelas]

here it is:

 Bek Okhan, on 03 April 2014 - 05:04 AM, said:

Awesome both of you voted. Had a sudden winge thinking scum may somehow have the abilty to intercept votes. Both of you voting eases my worries.

i've pretty much put bek as town since early on but this is an odd comment that links eloth/bek. does bek know more than he let on or is eloth picking up on this and feigning it? or coincidence...hmm...

[Ampelas]

also if we assume that as discussed, perhaps symps don't know each other but know their abilities obviously - could bek's relief at alkend and I voting at the same time simply relief that one of his fellow symps that he wouldn't know the identity of didn't target us with this vote prevention ability so that we were able to hammer what he knew was a townie?

a bit of conjecture there but it's a thought path i havent gone down yet, needs more time to develop...

[Bek Okhan]

 Ampelas, on 03 April 2014 - 06:03 PM, said:

here it is:

 Bek Okhan, on 03 April 2014 - 05:04 AM, said:

Awesome both of you voted. Had a sudden winge thinking scum may somehow have the abilty to intercept votes. Both of you voting eases my worries.

i've pretty much put bek as town since early on but this is an odd comment that links eloth/bek. does bek know more than he let on or is eloth picking up on this and feigning it? or coincidence...hmm...

My Level 5 role allowed me that related info. I suspected scum had the ability aswell when I went back and read up on what I could do.

I'm simply able to block a vote. I looked back on Eloth and thought blocking a vote would force him to talk more. Also the only point of my ability is to avoid derailment and Eloth seemed likeliest of the bunch judging interactions on Day 2.
Thought of using it on Denul but I think Denuls vote history is not very clear so I'm happy to observe whatever he does decide to vote on even if its me.

I had to use it and figured this was the best way to do so. I have reason to believe I'm not the only one able to do so but the above all but labels me Amp, I might aswell own up to it.

[Eloth]

 Bek Okhan, on 03 April 2014 - 06:13 PM, said:

...have reason to believe I'm not the only one able to do so ...

Heh. As in "all Begians have a beer"?

[Denul]

 Ampelas, on 03 April 2014 - 05:59 PM, said:

 Bek Okhan, on 03 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

 Denul, on 03 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

 Path-Shaper, on 03 April 2014 - 06:40 AM, said:

Tiamatha is dead. He was René Artouille, an EU spy (RI) and Khellendros

Yeah, I hate to say I told you so, but....

but what?

but "he told you so," i'm sure. denul, wtf? there was a lot of heat on tiam, his reveal about fucking around on day 1 made him look suspicious, he didn't respond to my questions and didn't point out scum - he was a clear target. what made you so sure he was town, again?

Basically, I felt it would have been a silly move for a 2nd scum to basically do the exact same thing as GL did during Day 1 - i.e. try to inflate the post count quickly. I mean, one scum doing that wasn't terribly surprising, but I just felt it would have been too dangerous a move for a 2nd scum to do it as well. I don't know why he was a 'clear' target, though I understand why he was 'a' target. I put my vote down on him because keeping him around would only hurt town what with everyone being so certain that he MUST be scum - when so many people are aimed at one person, keeping them around tends to cause those people to put on blinders to a lot of the rest of the thread, and wonder why there was so much push back on his vote, etc.

[Bek Okhan]

 Denul, on 03 April 2014 - 06:22 PM, said:

 Ampelas, on 03 April 2014 - 05:59 PM, said:

 Bek Okhan, on 03 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

 Denul, on 03 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

 Path-Shaper, on 03 April 2014 - 06:40 AM, said:

Tiamatha is dead. He was René Artouille, an EU spy (RI) and Khellendros

Yeah, I hate to say I told you so, but....

but what?

but "he told you so," i'm sure. denul, wtf? there was a lot of heat on tiam, his reveal about fucking around on day 1 made him look suspicious, he didn't respond to my questions and didn't point out scum - he was a clear target. what made you so sure he was town, again?

Basically, I felt it would have been a silly move for a 2nd scum to basically do the exact same thing as GL did during Day 1 - i.e. try to inflate the post count quickly. I mean, one scum doing that wasn't terribly surprising, but I just felt it would have been too dangerous a move for a 2nd scum to do it as well. I don't know why he was a 'clear' target, though I understand why he was 'a' target. I put my vote down on him because keeping him around would only hurt town what with everyone being so certain that he MUST be scum - when so many people are aimed at one person, keeping them around tends to cause those people to put on blinders to a lot of the rest of the thread, and wonder why there was so much push back on his vote, etc.

Why do you assume that Tiam and GL are the same? last I checked symps dont get a scum CF. what we do get is that both were in EU.

maybe you can talk on that?

[Rikkter]

 Bek Okhan, on 03 April 2014 - 05:21 PM, said:

 Rikkter, on 03 April 2014 - 04:36 PM, said:

Just in briefly, can anyone think why we didn't get a full CF for GL but why we got one for Tiam and Alkend?

 Path-Shaper, on 01 April 2014 - 09:10 PM, said:

The man in the fancy suit walked around rather aimlessly, as if drunk. He couldn't help but be noticed by another westerner, who was observing the yaught port from the shadows, then dragged the suit in when he was close enough.

"Bruno?" The shadowy figure asked.
"Ahah," the other replied.
"I wasn't briefed about you being here. What are you doing?"
"Double team, for control?"
"Bullshit. We know the numbers."
The shadow felt something against his stomach.
"Stiletto," Bruno grinned. "Die, motherfucker. Hau Fat says hello."
The other man checked his belly with a gloved hand, brought it up to his face, peering at it. Then he snatched the Italian's hand, brought it up.
"It's a comb, you twat."
"Whaaa... eh, it was a joke?"

A gunshot ran out.
"Waste of a suit," the shadowy figure commented.

Galayn Lord is dead. He was Bruno Safredi of the EU and a Henchman.

It is now night.

 Path-Shaper, on 03 April 2014 - 06:40 AM, said:

1 vote for Monok Ochem (Tiamatha)
7 votes for Tiamatha (Monok Ochem, Bek Okhan, Denul, Rikkter, Korabas, Kessobahn, Alkend)

"Oooooooooooooooh, René!!" the waitress crooned, holding a portly man of middle age in a tight embrace.
"Not now, my love, I am urgently needed!"
"Can you not wait?" she tightened her arms, curling a leg around his waist.
"Careful honey, we are on..."
"... on the brink of eternal delight, yes, my darling," she moaned as she leapt up, showering his bald spot in kisses, wrapping her legs around him.
".... the edge of a balcony," he finished lamely, as they fell backwards, fourty stories down.
.
Tiamatha is dead. He was René Artouille, an EU spy (RI) and Khellendros

Everyone is now level 5.

it is now night.

 Path-Shaper, on 03 April 2014 - 06:54 AM, said:

"You wanted to see me?"
"I have information to sell."
"Oh dear. I thought we were in this together, a global operation?"
"I doubt you are that naive."
"I am not, but I figured you'd be. Here, call this number. They'll set you up."


----

She felt right at home in her birth city, despite not having been there for a long time. Most of her fellow agents wouldn't feel secure at all, but she knew this place and nothing could surprise her. She waited for the light to turn green, and when a motor bike swivelled by, through the red light, she deftly avoided it - stepping in front of a Hummer waiting for the traffic light. It promptly accelerated, ran her over, reversed, slammed into the car behind it, then accelerated again and disappeared. The police failed to identify the bloody stain on the street, but SpyCRAFT managed through her genetic blueprint.


Alkend is dead. She was Yingua Changying of Asia, a spy (RI) and D'rek.

It is now day. Everyone alive is level 5.
10 are alive.

6 to lynch, 5 to go to night

Not voted: Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Korabas, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter.

31 and 58 minutes hours are remaining.

Well common assumption is Tiam was possibly a symp that turns up town so his CF looks identical to Alkend who was town.

GL obviously had a roled position. maybe a second killer with power activated late? its WIFOM to suppose anything really.

We'd have to discuss NA and its a popular belief only scum discuss NAs.

I can just guess symps level into killers and we got the original killer but one of his symps became a killer.

No, I mean that we didn't get confirmation of which player it was.