[Obdigore]

Briar King, on 09 September 2015 - 02:14 PM, said:

Wait so we have to pay 2,5K once a week? I was on NM lvl 16 DO lvl 10 and FWC lvl 10. I haven't been able to look close at everything and I only played for 7 minutes last night but my Ambien had me throwed then.

You pay that 2.5k every time you want to start earning rep for a DIFFERENT tower faction. (It appears you earn both Guardian and 'other' faction rep at the same time) If/When you want to change from, say FWC to DO, you pay that 2.5k, and you can only change once a week.

[Silencer]

Edit; ninja'd by Obdi.

You have to pay if you change, iirc. Not so much if you stick with one faction. But I could be wrong there as I haven't been paying attention to the faction stuff too closely.

[Khellendros]

Briar King, on 09 September 2015 - 03:44 PM, said:

Errr they changed my DO Hunter scarf to fucking gray.....wtf people give me my black scarf back!!!

Also I'm guessing you have to have bought TTK for Armory Day? I'm at Gun Smith and he's just the same. No new guns at Cruicble either.

Yep, same for me. No quests/bounties from Gunsmith or the Crucible guys, so I'm guessing you need TTK for that. Weirdly, a lot of my weapons which I had on me but hadn't got around to upgrading and unlocking perks on had been fully unlocked when I logged in. Got myself a new Ghost though.

I have no idea if my Light level is any good or not (153 I think).

I tried out the new Rift mode. Though I know it's essentially 'get the bomb to the other team's base', I still had not a clue what was going on. Never even saw this spark thing or who was carrying. Luckily, it seemed like everyone else was as lost as I was on the new map, and I got in 20 kills on that first try

There's also a portal which warps you to another part of that map, which is a ledge from which you can't reach any other part of the map unless you fly over...as I discovered whilst unsuccessfully trying to blink across


I also checked out the new bounties, I have to say I didn't like how the vast majority of the Crucible ones were of the type "In a fireteam of two or more, do the following...", meaning they can't be completed solo.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 09 September 2015 - 03:59 PM

[Khellendros]

Also without TTK max level is 34, not 40. So when Iron Banner comes round, those people without TTK are fucked.

[Obdigore]

So stuff (IB/Events) normally starts at 10am PST. Which is in about 2 minutes.

Why don't you guys give it a couple minutes after the turn of the hour and then check and see if there is something at the Gunsmith?

I'm interested as well because I was hoping to start grinding rep.

Edit -> Khell, max level will be upped to 40 on Tuesday if you have TTK or not, I believe. You just wont be able to go to the new areas or have the new pvp maps. And because you can't get to the new areas (and maybe not even the 3rd subclass?) you wont be able to get some of the new exotics.

Edit -> Reddit and the Destiny App are both saying the Gunsmith's test weapons are live. Have at them, Guardians.

This post has been edited by Obdigore: 09 September 2015 - 05:07 PM

[Khellendros]

Obdigore, on 09 September 2015 - 04:59 PM, said:

So stuff (IB/Events) normally starts at 10am PST. Which is in about 2 minutes.

Why don't you guys give it a couple minutes after the turn of the hour and then check and see if there is something at the Gunsmith?

I'm interested as well because I was hoping to start grinding rep.

Edit -> Khell, max level will be upped to 40 on Tuesday if you have TTK or not, I believe. You just wont be able to go to the new areas or have the new pvp maps. And because you can't get to the new areas (and maybe not even the 3rd subclass?) you wont be able to get some of the new exotics.

Edit -> Reddit and the Destiny App are both saying the Gunsmith's test weapons are live. Have at them, Guardians.

Ah, that's good then - though their patch notes sure make it sound like 40 is a TTK-only cap:

"Character Level Cap will be increased to 40 on 9/15 (requires The Taken King)"

[QuickTidal]

It sounds like I'm not going to enjoy the length of the download for this update am I?

[Obdigore]

Khellendros, on 09 September 2015 - 05:32 PM, said:

Obdigore, on 09 September 2015 - 04:59 PM, said:

So stuff (IB/Events) normally starts at 10am PST. Which is in about 2 minutes.

Why don't you guys give it a couple minutes after the turn of the hour and then check and see if there is something at the Gunsmith?

I'm interested as well because I was hoping to start grinding rep.

Edit -> Khell, max level will be upped to 40 on Tuesday if you have TTK or not, I believe. You just wont be able to go to the new areas or have the new pvp maps. And because you can't get to the new areas (and maybe not even the 3rd subclass?) you wont be able to get some of the new exotics.

Edit -> Reddit and the Destiny App are both saying the Gunsmith's test weapons are live. Have at them, Guardians.

Ah, that's good then - though their patch notes sure make it sound like 40 is a TTK-only cap:

"Character Level Cap will be increased to 40 on 9/15 (requires The Taken King)"

Hmmm you could be right. My Destiny App doesn't have the "(requires The Taken King)" part on it.

[Obdigore]

Hey BK.

Since you didn't raid I assume your characters aren't level 34. If that is true, are you able to get XP and level up to lvl 34 now?

[QuickTidal]

Briar King, on 09 September 2015 - 06:56 PM, said:

Which one are yall buying? The stand alone for $39 collecters for $59?

I doubt 3 exotic class items/emotes and 3 armor shaders are really worth $20 xtra

Since I don't have any of the expansions yet, I'll probably just do the big one and get all three.

[QuickTidal]

I'll be doing the update tonight, but here's a handy dandy list of worthy bits of the update.

[Khellendros]

It took me about 30 mins of regular play to level up from 32 to 34.

I've noticed that bounties seem to do a lot less to boost the unlocking of perks when you hand them in - needed to hand in four just to unlock the first perks on a green weapon!

Oh, and the Omolon field test fusion rifle is AMAZING! Absolutely destroyed people in Crucible with it.


The deluge of new maps scares me, they're so unfamiliar!

[Khellendros]

Briar King, on 09 September 2015 - 09:52 PM, said:

The charge rate is so slow.... I just got capped 3 times cause of slowness. It looks cool as shit though. I really like Om Sniper.

So I just saw First Light for the 1st time since before DB hit. I loved that map so much. Where the hell has it been all this time and why did no Pikes appear?

It's fast enough that you can get a shot off before they kill you unless all their shots are precision, and most of the time they were charging at me with a shotgun. Before they got in range, bam. It's a long range shotgun so long as you're constantly ready to start charging.


Some maps have vehicles disabled depending on which mode you're playing.

[QuickTidal]

This update is too big. It's been downloading for like 4 hrs and its only 2Gs done.

[Silencer]

I like the new weapons testing. It's a cool feature. The Hakke ones are badass, look pretty cool even if the sniper is a bit retro-future Barrett, and have some neat perks (highlighting enemies on low health, providing increased radar resolution). Most importantly, they sound cool.
The Omolon sniper is fun to use and looks very "80s future weapons design" (look up H&K G11 for comparison of the squareness, lol), sounds cool, but it doesn't have the most useful perks for singleplayer. It also doesn't have the liquid ammo counter that I can see, and I thought they were supposed to have that.

The Suros rocket launcher is underwhelming. I hope the Armsday drop guns have a lot better performance/perks than it had. (Then again, it could just be that I haven't had to use a RL without tracking in...ever...>.>) And I'm not a fan of the style.

No comment on Fusion, I didn't have space to pick it up and don't plan on playing that much Crucible to make it viable. I also have bad performance with FRs with high charge times and that thing is the worst. XD I may pick it up just to try and boost my Gunsmith rep but for now it's not worth it.


Still, neat little set of things to do. I do feel like a couple of them (Hakke) had way too short a test time. I mean, I don't particularly want to have to do a weekly marathon of questions, but I got the precision kills with the pulse rifle without even noticing and halfway through the mission I was running to do it on. >.<

[Silencer]

Obdigore, on 09 September 2015 - 06:57 PM, said:

Hey BK.

Since you didn't raid I assume your characters aren't level 34. If that is true, are you able to get XP and level up to lvl 34 now?

Briar King, on 09 September 2015 - 07:11 PM, said:

I've been on all 3 at 34 since HoW dropped. I got the EL from IB.

Sil is probably asleep ATM but he could tell you better his Titan gained levels.

Sorry, didn't see this and also don't have an answer...yet. I've been messing around on my Warlock first, plan on doing the Titan next. I'll update when I know more, but I assume "yes" should be the answer. I gained levels from the auto-level thing they did when they figured out what your best possible gear-based level was, not from EXP.

Briar King, on 10 September 2015 - 03:56 AM, said:

*snip*
Poor Thorn. It's burn was at 7 pts per pulse now it's at 3. Thorn heyday is over for sure.

*snip*

This is one I'm not sure I agree with. You used to get 7 DoT total. Now you get 3 DoT per round. This means that at 2 hits you get 6 DoT over time. This still prevents the enemy from recovering health for that time, it still reduces their health further, it just means that it's not a two-shot wonder any more...and that was absolutely necessary. (Not as necessary as removing all PvE weapons from PvP and replacing them with balanced variants, but hey, broken record amirite?)

Thorn and the other Hand Cannons were unquestionably OP in the Crucible, and this change is one of the few that hasn't directly impacted the affected weapons' PvE power (the other changes have, of course, but whatever) just to try and balance PvP. Thorn used to either kill a target in one hit, or require most of a mag - now, it hasn't changed much. You can even get MORE DoT now than you could before on powerful enemies that don't die straight away. It might be a tiny impact on some occasions where you miss a precision kill, but hey, it's not the end of the world.

That being said, I'm not a fan of all these changes overall - Hand Cannons were my favourite PvE primary, and now they are much less effective. There's certainly not much point in using Thorn over a legendary HC now, but it was always a trade-off in the past too. It's just that now it's clear that you might as well rock the Fatebringer or a decent Scout and save your Exotic slot for a Heavy or Special option. Overall though, much less horrible than some of the other weapon nerfs (Black Hammer is now utterly pointless, for example).

[Khellendros]

I don't know if it's everyone being a little lost and therefore a little less quick with the new maps and modes and whatnot, but I definitely feel like my scout and pulse rifles are more effective, whilst I'm rarely being killed by a hand cannon (so far). I'm yet to try out auto rifles.


I completely agree with you re Black Hammer, Sil (and I don't even have it). That was truly a weapon which could be called Exotic because of that perk, something so unique, and they've completely nullified it. I don't really understand that decision.


I also agree that the Gunsmith field testing is surprisingly brief (half a Control match for the Omolon fusion rifle, half a mission for the Hakke pulse).


So have they got rid of the old bounties, or will those come back in circulation? Like, will we ever see "Complete 6 patrol mission in the Cosmodrome" again, or has it now been replaced with "Do stuff in the Cosmodrome", the latter of which means I don't even bother with the mission probe things and just go around in a circle shooting respawning Fallen (i.e. it's even more repetitive)?

[Obdigore]

Khellendros, on 10 September 2015 - 11:29 AM, said:

I don't know if it's everyone being a little lost and therefore a little less quick with the new maps and modes and whatnot, but I definitely feel like my scout and pulse rifles are more effective, whilst I'm rarely being killed by a hand cannon (so far). I'm yet to try out auto rifles.

Both scout and pulse rifles got buffs, as a class, while a few of the pulse rifles got nerfed by themselves to prevent another 'thorn' situation.


Saw a dude on the tower map using hard light to spray around corners to kill shotgun campers, and I started screaming 'fuck yes' at my TV.

[Silencer]

@Khell - I don't understand a lot of ActivisionsBungie's decisions, lately.
And no idea about the old Bounties. I'm not turning any of mine in on my main until next week so as not to miss out on the XP, but it is rather annoying if these are going to be more generic. Then again, some of them are the same (Hive majors/ultras) so I guess we'll see.


Have to say, I'm really feeling the lack of Exotics on my part these days. I mean, I have most of them, and most all of the ones I *want*, but it'd be nice to round out my collection with Myth, MIDA, Hard Light, etc.

[Silencer]

Confirming ability to level up through xp.

Also, does anyone else HATE the new Nolan North ghost/Northbot? God it's annoying.