[Monok Ochem]

So what merit do Ultama and Trake see in lynching someone who will be modkilled shortly if theyre not modkilled they have some explaining to do tomorrow

I dont see a killer leaving their first post this late that strikes of raising too many questions

Low posting or hiding in a high posting style yes not no posting

Ultama looks like our only other choice at the moment

Vote Ultama

[Ghennan]

Wow, that post is ringing so many bells for me. The self-pity, the 'acceptance' if we lynch him, the 'lynch me if you have to' schtick. It's making me want to vote for him more.

I'll be around on and off for the next few hours, but I'll vote now to see if we can get something going.

vote ultama

[Trake]

OK, so things I don't like so far:

Mostly, how half the game has done sweet fuck all. At least some of you must be town, and it's just giving scum somewhere to coast...Great.

So, Ultama to start. I was deliberately trying to pick fights and get the game moving, so I'm not going to then do the usual bullshit of turning around and attacking someone purely for reacting (or as it's usually dubbed "over-reacting").

However, when pushing someone the point is to see how their reaction stacks up, and there are several points I didn't like about his. As well as not liking the initial vote I didn't like some of his justifications later (no one signals?), and felt he got a bit OMGUS.

I also don't really like this sort of defence:

Ultama, on 22 October 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

Guys I really won't be around, i'm away as from now. Lynch me if you need to get a lynch, it's easy enough because I won't be around to defend myself, with Pallid's first vote and now Fanderay's a train is starting to be formed. If I am dead when I wake, I want you to know I have no ill feelings towards anyone in particular. With the low level of posts nothing has really stood out to me.

Goodnight.

Which I do see as a defence, particularly the underlined.

Safe to say I don't really mind an Ultama vote.

However, there are several other things I don't like. The first is Fanderay - who claimed to be catching up hours ago (on a very short thread), and has promptly fucked off without comment, leaving a nice drive by vote in the process (a vote that Ultama points out is forming a train, and MO cites as leaving him the only real option, another thing I dislike but I'll get to that in my next post, since MO's play is something I dislike in general).

[Monok Ochem]

Trake, on 22 October 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

However, there are several other things I don't like. The first is Fanderay - who claimed to be catching up hours ago (on a very short thread), and has promptly fucked off without comment, leaving a nice drive by vote in the process (a vote that Ultama points out is forming a train, and MO cites as leaving him the only real option, another thing I dislike but I'll get to that in my next post, since MO's play is something I dislike in general).

You have something better put it out there


4 hours left and 2 votes on 2 alts one of which is a likely modkill

Glad to see youre not sitting back though

[Trake]

OK, so Monok Ochem. First we have this post:

Monok Ochem, on 22 October 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

So what do people think we have killer & symp is a good bet someone who has read the books can answer if William and Adso are potential killer and symp? Bernard arriving I'm at a loss to speculate as to what this may involve anyone had thoughts worth putting on thread? Mentioned as protagonist in the books but can't see them being a killer 3 days with no kills is excessive but 3 days to wrap up the game is to

Trake/Ultama are having fun tempted to put a vote on one of them because no one better in site so far

Day 1 signalling does happen but people try to be you know subtle about it what that really wasnt

Off for a bit now but will be back before night

At the time I pointed out how middle of the road it was, but since no one decided to take me up on actually discussing it, let's go into a bit more detail.

How does he start? Well, some game speculation. Or rather, inviting other people to speculate about the game. The only vague attempt at speculation he himself offers he immediately dismisses. Not only that, where other people were speculating about GUI, he goes further, onto other characters. It seems like vague bait to get people discussing roles etc. Also worth noting is the basic comprehension failure - bernard is mentioned as an antagonist, not a protagonist.

He gives no opinion whatsoever on me and Ultama, except we're "fun", and apparently he'd be happy to vote either. Could he be more middle of the road (read it in Chandler's voice). And what reason would he have for voting, if he had?

Then, onto discussing the issue of signalling. And again, he falls right in the middle. Agrees that it happens (obvious), but isn't convinced that this is a case of signalling, people try to be subtle and that wasn't...While I disagree with this point (that we should disregard obvious signals for being too obvious), the point is more how utterly uncommitted his view is in either direction.

And then he leaves, but, helpfully, will be back before night, which is really ideal for scum since it means they can hop onto a train "for a lynch" - someone else pointed out how useless this is I think.

And then he pops back up:

Monok Ochem, on 22 October 2013 - 10:53 PM, said:

So what merit do Ultama and Trake see in lynching someone who will be modkilled shortly if theyre not modkilled they have some explaining to do tomorrow

I dont see a killer leaving their first post this late that strikes of raising too many questions

Low posting or hiding in a high posting style yes not no posting

Ultama looks like our only other choice at the moment

Vote Ultama

In time to tell us that Ultama is our only choice so he's voting there.

Again, comprehension seems slightly lacking - it's a short thread dude, I've already pointed out the thing about modkill several times so why are you asking what benefit I see in lynching there. But then, the next line is basically a rehash of part of my discussion with Ultama.

He then votes Ultama, for being the only option. His train only has 2 votes more than anyone else, and I'm not sure this convinces me...I never like people being presented as the "only" option. Within 25 minutes he's from 2 votes to 4, in a piece of convenient timing from Ghennan, but at least Ghennan justifies his vote based on Ultama's behaviour.

[Trake]

I would also be willing to vote Lock, for this:

Lock, on 22 October 2013 - 03:28 PM, said:

Trake, on 22 October 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

Maybe the reason people are accidentally posting in the wrong threads is because there's no fucking way to differentiate between them based on game speed.

Vote Lock

For complaining about the lack of votes but being too much a coward to make a vote himself. Trying to get others to take the forefront is typical scum play.

dick

It's just a case of obviously being around while discussion is kicking off, and avoiding getting involved.

[Trake]

For just now:

Remove vote

Vote Monok Ochem

For being ludicrously middle of the road.

Will be around for a bit longer, an hour, perhaps two, maybe not right up until night.

[Monok Ochem]

Oh wow you totally convinced me

Yeah Im not having a brilliant week

Remove vote

Vote Monok Ochem

And I am out for the night now

[Trake]

Nice reaction

[Trake]

Hope your week improves though

[Path-Shaper]

1 hour and 54 minutes remaining.


12 players alive: Cast, Fanderay, Ghennan, Grasp, Hanas, Jalan, Lock, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Togg, Trake, Ultama

7 votes to lynch, 6 to go to night.


3 votes Ultama: Pallid, Fanderay, Ghennan
2 votes Monok Ochem: Trake, Monok Ochem
1 vote Togg: Ultama



Players not voted: Cast, Grasp, Hanas, Jalan, Lock, Togg

[Togg]

subsistence post   Ill have more time after dinner tongith hopefully

[Trake]

Oh fuck you Togg.

[Trake]

No one about at all?

[Trake]

Also MO self voting and leaving has made a no lynch more likely, which kind of goes against the whole "only option" vote...Not that self votes ever seem particularly rational.

[Path-Shaper]

36 minutes left.

[Grasp]

Assuming that means no lynch eh?

[Path-Shaper]

Grasp, on 23 October 2013 - 02:18 AM, said:

Assuming that means no lynch eh?

I hereby grant you the power of ten votes.

[Path-Shaper]

Nah, too late, changed my mind.

[Grasp]

Path-Shaper, on 23 October 2013 - 02:19 AM, said:

Nah, too late, changed my mind.

Hehe. You crack me up PS