[Trake]

Maybe the reason people are accidentally posting in the wrong threads is because there's no fucking way to differentiate between them based on game speed.

Vote Lock

For complaining about the lack of votes but being too much a coward to make a vote himself. Trying to get others to take the forefront is typical scum play.

[Path-Shaper]

12 hours and 44 minutes remaining.


12 players alive: Cast, Fanderay, Ghennan, Grasp, Hanas, Jalan, Lock, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Togg, Trake, Ultama

7 votes to lynch, 6 to go to night.


1 vote Lock: Trake


Players not voted: Cast, Fanderay, Ghennan, Grasp, Hanas, Jalan, Lock, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Togg, Ultama

[Ultama]

Vote Togg

Togg has not posted yet.

[Trake]

Ultama, on 22 October 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Vote Togg

Togg has not posted yet.

Remove vote

Vote Togg

Flimsy excuse for someone who hasn't posted yet?

Seems like a signal.

[Path-Shaper]

12 hours and 33 minutes remaining.


12 players alive: Cast, Fanderay, Ghennan, Grasp, Hanas, Jalan, Lock, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Togg, Trake, Ultama

7 votes to lynch, 6 to go to night.


2 votes Togg: Ultama, Trake


Players not voted: Cast, Fanderay, Ghennan, Grasp, Hanas, Jalan, Lock, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Togg

[Trake]

Togg also hadn't voted this morning but you were happy to sit around exchanging pleasantries then...why wait till someone else had voted?

"Oh, we're voting now? That hadn't occurred to me" - Ultama, apparently. Actually wait, maybe that's not that unbelievable, given they're voting someone that will get us no information whatsoever and is the closest to being up for modkill. Useful...

Fuck, more tempted to vote Ultama than Togg now.

[Trake]

Actually, that just makes the vote seem more signal like. Why would you make such a useless vote, that looks suspicious, otherwise?

[Jalan]

Trake, on 22 October 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

Actually, that just makes the vote seem more signal like. Why would you make such a useless vote, that looks suspicious, otherwise?

If it's a signal how is it supposed to work? Togg is one of the killers, Ultama is symp, so Ultama votes Togg to signal the other killer and hopes desperately we don't all agree to vote out his low-poster killer master Togg?

[Ultama]

Jalan, I was enjoying watch Trake become more and more erratic. He votes someone, he votes someone else, then wants to vote that someone. Is it a case of anyone but him I wonder? This isn't the long game where a joke vote may be forgotten by the end of the day. No, this is the short game where posting is needed and votes required. I was never going to follow Trake's initial vote, so I made my own based on something very little.

[Lock]

Trake, on 22 October 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

Maybe the reason people are accidentally posting in the wrong threads is because there's no fucking way to differentiate between them based on game speed.

Vote Lock

For complaining about the lack of votes but being too much a coward to make a vote himself. Trying to get others to take the forefront is typical scum play.

dick

[Trake]

Jalan, on 22 October 2013 - 03:23 PM, said:

Trake, on 22 October 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

Actually, that just makes the vote seem more signal like. Why would you make such a useless vote, that looks suspicious, otherwise?

If it's a signal how is it supposed to work? Togg is one of the killers, Ultama is symp, so Ultama votes Togg to signal the other killer and hopes desperately we don't all agree to vote out his low-poster killer master Togg?

Ultama votes togg to signal togg (by the way, did Khell explain the scum roles or are you just making a nice little assumption there?), and then passes it off as unimportant. It would hardly have to be a desperate hope - what are the chances of it actually triggering a train on togg for not having posted? We're going to vote him off for it?

[Jalan]

Ultama, on 22 October 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

Jalan, I was enjoying watch Trake become more and more erratic. He votes someone, he votes someone else, then wants to vote that someone. Is it a case of anyone but him I wonder? This isn't the long game where a joke vote may be forgotten by the end of the day. No, this is the short game where posting is needed and votes required. I was never going to follow Trake's initial vote, so I made my own based on something very little.

My post was aimed at Trake, not you. Your bit is already done, whatever it was. But I want clarification of Trake's rational beause I don't understand what he is seeing.




edit: xpost with Trake himself!

This post has been edited by Jalan: 22 October 2013 - 03:48 PM

[Pallid]

I'm not keen on voting for someone who hasn't checked in yet. Trake does seem somewhat erratic, but not to a fault quite yet. I can't say I am overly fond of Lock's 'dick' post/response, but is trivial at best.

Ultama, on 22 October 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Vote Togg

Togg has not posted yet.

vote Ultama

For obviously deflecting from the growing Lock train of one single vote. With nothing else to go on, and a willingness to change upon further interesting developments.

[Trake]

Ultama, on 22 October 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

Jalan, I was enjoying watch Trake become more and more erratic. He votes someone, he votes someone else, then wants to vote that someone. Is it a case of anyone but him I wonder? This isn't the long game where a joke vote may be forgotten by the end of the day. No, this is the short game where posting is needed and votes required. I was never going to follow Trake's initial vote, so I made my own based on something very little.

Yeah, I'm desperately trying to get anyone but me lynched when I've been under precisely zero pressure whatsoever

Is that really the first thing that occurs to you?

You say yourself that posting is needed and votes required...and yet no one was doing any of that. Connect the dots dipshit.

[Jalan]

Trake, on 22 October 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

Jalan, on 22 October 2013 - 03:23 PM, said:

Trake, on 22 October 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

Actually, that just makes the vote seem more signal like. Why would you make such a useless vote, that looks suspicious, otherwise?

If it's a signal how is it supposed to work? Togg is one of the killers, Ultama is symp, so Ultama votes Togg to signal the other killer and hopes desperately we don't all agree to vote out his low-poster killer master Togg?

Ultama votes togg to signal togg (by the way, did Khell explain the scum roles or are you just making a nice little assumption there?), and then passes it off as unimportant. It would hardly have to be a desperate hope - what are the chances of it actually triggering a train on togg for not having posted? We're going to vote him off for it?

I'm just assuming that with 12 players and some town roles there'll be at least 2 killers. I suppose it could be something more complicated like 1 killer, 1 scum guard and a symp with inheritance, but that's starting to steer away from the stated TMDI 1 or 2.

I think that with 12 hours left and only the one prior vote that was both recent and a bit random, a symp voting for their low-poster master would actually have a fairly good chance of triggering a train. Sounds pretty risky IMO so not very likely.

[Ultama]

Trake, on 22 October 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

Ultama, on 22 October 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

Jalan, I was enjoying watch Trake become more and more erratic. He votes someone, he votes someone else, then wants to vote that someone. Is it a case of anyone but him I wonder? This isn't the long game where a joke vote may be forgotten by the end of the day. No, this is the short game where posting is needed and votes required. I was never going to follow Trake's initial vote, so I made my own based on something very little.

Yeah, I'm desperately trying to get anyone but me lynched when I've been under precisely zero pressure whatsoever

Is that really the first thing that occurs to you?

You say yourself that posting is needed and votes required...and yet no one was doing any of that. Connect the dots dipshit.

There's your cue Trake, time to change ^.

[Trake]

Jalan, on 22 October 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

Ultama, on 22 October 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

Jalan, I was enjoying watch Trake become more and more erratic. He votes someone, he votes someone else, then wants to vote that someone. Is it a case of anyone but him I wonder? This isn't the long game where a joke vote may be forgotten by the end of the day. No, this is the short game where posting is needed and votes required. I was never going to follow Trake's initial vote, so I made my own based on something very little.

My post was aimed at Trake, not you. Your bit is already done, whatever it was. But I want clarification of Trake's rational beause I don't understand what he is seeing.




edit: xpost with Trake himself!

Ultama votes Togg on a flimsy rational. It's been a slow start with almost no proper interaction at that point, so it's a pretty typical place to drop a signal. He possibly doesn't want to be the first vote.

I'm just not sure why he'd drop a vote that looks like a signal as town, for "very little". He makes it sound above like he was trying to kickstart the game? Why then choose the least active player? Sure, trying to prompt activity is good, but since almost no one had properly contributed at that stage, he had much better options in that sense, that don't leave him looking like he could be signalling, which is something innos wouldn't want to do.

[Ultama]

You are quite funny Trake. This is a very low TDMi game, why would someone signal in a low TDMi game? No one is dumb enough to signal. Voting Togg for nothing better than to lynch a non active player. My reason is posted right underneath my vote. You don't like the reason? Go suck a dick. It's my reason and I don't see a better option or didn't at the time.

[Trake]

Jalan, on 22 October 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

Trake, on 22 October 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

Jalan, on 22 October 2013 - 03:23 PM, said:

Trake, on 22 October 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

Actually, that just makes the vote seem more signal like. Why would you make such a useless vote, that looks suspicious, otherwise?

If it's a signal how is it supposed to work? Togg is one of the killers, Ultama is symp, so Ultama votes Togg to signal the other killer and hopes desperately we don't all agree to vote out his low-poster killer master Togg?

Ultama votes togg to signal togg (by the way, did Khell explain the scum roles or are you just making a nice little assumption there?), and then passes it off as unimportant. It would hardly have to be a desperate hope - what are the chances of it actually triggering a train on togg for not having posted? We're going to vote him off for it?

I'm just assuming that with 12 players and some town roles there'll be at least 2 killers. I suppose it could be something more complicated like 1 killer, 1 scum guard and a symp with inheritance, but that's starting to steer away from the stated TMDI 1 or 2.

I think that with 12 hours left and only the one prior vote that was both recent and a bit random, a symp voting for their low-poster master would actually have a fairly good chance of triggering a train. Sounds pretty risky IMO so not very likely.

I'm just going to have to disagree on your second point. I just can't see it triggering a legitimate train for him having not posted. No one is really involved at that point, so it's hardly better than anyone else, and trains on people who haven't posted at all rarely happen, why lynch the low poster who's about to be modkilled after all?

[Ultama]

Who's going to be modkilled? Why are you assuming that? Modkill is usually 36 hours, if that person comes on after 35 hours then they have effectively coasted through day one.