[twelve]

Ganoes Paran, on 08 November 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

D, on 08 November 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 08 November 2013 - 03:12 PM, said:

Anyone feel like collating things? We're still waiting on Tapper to do turn 3, and then turn 4 and presumably 5 straight after.

I'm trying to. Tatts' turns 4 and 5 are a bit confusing.

I have double drives on my dread. I move my dread into the hex where IH is, the one with the hive. It takes two moves and they are both reactions.

Yes you have two drives but the total movement of the two drives are three moves. You have to move 4 hexes to get to the hive hex. Thus two reacations.

[D'rek]

Ganoes Paran, on 08 November 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

D, on 08 November 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 08 November 2013 - 03:12 PM, said:

Anyone feel like collating things? We're still waiting on Tapper to do turn 3, and then turn 4 and presumably 5 straight after.

I'm trying to. Tatts' turns 4 and 5 are a bit confusing.

I have double drives on my dread. I move my dread into the hex where IH is, the one with the hive. It takes two moves and they are both reactions.

Okay, got it. The problem was that you said on your turn 5 that you'd be moving into the hive, which was only the first move. Should've said Nu Phoenicis, and then say into the hive for the turn 6 move (not yet posted).

[D'rek]

Here's what I've got for collation:




Turn 1

Twelve - Research Science Development
Gnaw - Research Plasma Missile
Tatts - Influence. supernova and iota bootus.
D'rek - RESearch Advanced Labs
Khell - RESEARCH Mining Fleet
Tapper - Pulsar: upgrade
CF - RESEARCH orbitals
Morgoth - Research - Plasma Cannons and Advanced Economy
IH - EXPlore Nw of 101


Turn 2

Twelve - Research Plasma Cannons
Gnaw - Influence Hive and Vega
Tatts - upgrade
D'rek - BUIld two interceptors in Delta Eridani.
Khell - MOVE interceptor from homeworld to Pollux.
Tapper - Develop the Money Fleet.
CF - Build 2 starbases in Formahaut
Morgoth - Upgrade
IH - INFluence 101


Turn 3

Twelve - Research Advanced Mining (0$, 6S, 8M Upkeep -10)
Gnaw - INF: Remove influence disc from 212 and 307
Tatts - Pass
D'rek - Move both Interceptors from Delta Eridani to Aldebaraan.
Khell - BUILD 1 Interceptor in homeworld.
Tapper
CF - PASS
Morgoth - Move Cruiser to Gamma Serpentis (302)
IH - UPGrade


Turn 4

Twelve - PASS
Gnaw - Upgrade
Tatts - UPGrade
D'rek - Pulsar: upgrade
Khell - MOVE Interceptor from Pollux to GC, and move interceptor from homeworld to Iota Persei
Tapper
CF - {{planned rx}}
Morgoth
IH - PASS


Turn 5

Twelve -
Gnaw -
Tatts - (Rx) Move dread to Nu Phoenicis
D'rek - MOVe 2x Interceptors into GC
Khell - MOVe interceptor from Iota Persei to GC
Tapper
CF -
Morgoth
IH - (Rx) MOVe dread to hive



Turn 6

Twelve -
Gnaw -
Tatts - (Rx) Move dread into hive
D'rek -
Khell -
Tapper
CF -
Morgoth
IH -

This post has been edited by D'rek: 08 November 2013 - 03:58 PM

[Tattersail_]

Well

Turn 4 Reaction I upgrade so that my dread has 2 fusion drives. ie removing a hull so that I have the source and replacing my current drive with fusion drive. My dread can now move 4 spaces.

Turn 5 I move into Hive hex.

If not then

Turn 4 Move dread to Nu Phoenicis

Turn 5 Move dread to Hive hex.

[D'rek]

Tapper was online, but did not seem to post his Turn 3 action. Presumably it will be to build interceptors, probably in Pollux, but he did not confirm this.

Then in Turn 4 we have Tapper again, and Morgoth, that we are waiting on actions for, plus CF presumably building an orbital.

[D'rek]

Ganoes Paran, on 08 November 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

Well

Turn 4 Reaction I upgrade so that my dread has 2 fusion drives. ie removing a hull so that I have the source and replacing my current drive with fusion drive. My dread can now move 4 spaces.

Turn 5 I move into Hive hex.

If not then

Turn 4 Move dread to Nu Phoenicis

Turn 5 Move dread to Hive hex.

You can't upgrade two tiles in a reaction.

Your "if not" doesn't work because you wouldn't then have a fusion drive on it, just a nuclear drive.

[Tattersail_]

D, on 08 November 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

Ganoes Paran, on 08 November 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

Well

Turn 4 Reaction I upgrade so that my dread has 2 fusion drives. ie removing a hull so that I have the source and replacing my current drive with fusion drive. My dread can now move 4 spaces.

Turn 5 I move into Hive hex.

If not then

Turn 4 Move dread to Nu Phoenicis

Turn 5 Move dread to Hive hex.

You can't upgrade two tiles in a reaction.

Your "if not" doesn't work because you wouldn't then have a fusion drive on it, just a nuclear drive.

My turn two upgraded fusion drive on both my dread and cruiser.

The "if not" was because I thought removing a ships component was not an upgrade. I thought in a normal turn I could remove all ship parts if i liked and changed 2.

So if I cannot remove a ship part whilst upgrading that ship, then the if not is valid.

I want the dread in the hive hex in two moves. I can move and move.

[D'rek]

Ganoes Paran, on 08 November 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

D, on 08 November 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

Ganoes Paran, on 08 November 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

Well

Turn 4 Reaction I upgrade so that my dread has 2 fusion drives. ie removing a hull so that I have the source and replacing my current drive with fusion drive. My dread can now move 4 spaces.

Turn 5 I move into Hive hex.

If not then

Turn 4 Move dread to Nu Phoenicis

Turn 5 Move dread to Hive hex.

You can't upgrade two tiles in a reaction.

Your "if not" doesn't work because you wouldn't then have a fusion drive on it, just a nuclear drive.

My turn two upgraded fusion drive on both my dread and cruiser.

The "if not" was because I thought removing a ships component was not an upgrade. I thought in a normal turn I could remove all ship parts if i liked and changed 2.

So if I cannot remove a ship part whilst upgrading that ship, then the if not is valid.

I want the dread in the hive hex in two moves. I can move and move.

Ah, ok, that works then. I wasn't looking at actions that far back and the front page map doesn't have the first fusion dirve upgrade yet, I guess.

[Tattersail_]

My turns this rounds
Turn 1 - Influence

Turn 2

Ganoes Paran, on 07 November 2013 - 06:41 PM, said:

Lol Gnaw.
Im going to upgrade. Remove hull from source on dread and cruiser. Upgrade cruiser with fusion drive over shield and dread with fusion drive over shield
Upkeep -7

Turn 3

Ganoes Paran, on 08 November 2013 - 09:15 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 08 November 2013 - 08:58 AM, said:

I always have sneaky plans. I buy them in bulk from the Acme Corp.

I want to speak to you before you do your next go. Please do not do anything. I am going to

Pass

Turn 4

Ganoes Paran, on 08 November 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

Upgrade Dread with fusion drive over normal drive - 10 upkeep

Turn 5

Ganoes Paran, on 08 November 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

turn 5 Move dreadnought into hive hex - 13 upkeep

[Imperial Historian]

so:

Turn 1

Twelve - Research Science Development
Gnaw - Research Plasma Missile
Tatts - Influence. supernova and iota bootus.
D'rek - RESearch Advanced Labs
Khell - RESEARCH Mining Fleet
Tapper - Pulsar: upgrade
CF - RESEARCH orbitals
Morgoth - Research - Plasma Cannons and Advanced Economy
IH - EXPlore Nw of 101


Turn 2

Twelve - Research Plasma Cannons
Gnaw - Influence Hive and Vega
Tatts - upgrade
D'rek - BUIld two interceptors in Delta Eridani.
Khell - MOVE interceptor from homeworld to Pollux.
Tapper - Develop the Money Fleet.
CF - Build 2 starbases in Formahaut
Morgoth - Upgrade
IH - INFluence 101


Turn 3

Twelve - Research Advanced Mining (0$, 6S, 8M Upkeep -10)
Gnaw - INF: Remove influence disc from 212 and 307
Tatts - Pass
D'rek - Move both Interceptors from Delta Eridani to Aldebaraan.
Khell - BUILD 1 Interceptor in homeworld.
Tapper
CF - PASS
Morgoth - Move Cruiser to Gamma Serpentis (302)
IH - UPGrade


Turn 4

Twelve - PASS
Gnaw - Upgrade
Tatts - UPGrade
D'rek - Pulsar: upgrade
Khell - MOVE Interceptor from Pollux to GC, and move interceptor from homeworld to Iota Persei
Tapper
CF - {{planned rx}presumably build orbital}
Morgoth
IH - PASS


Turn 5

Twelve - presumably confirmed pass
Gnaw -
Tatts - (Rx) Move dread to Hive
D'rek - MOVe 2x Interceptors into GC
Khell - MOVe interceptor from Iota Persei to GC
Tapper
CF -
Morgoth
IH - (Rx) MOVe dread to hive

[D'rek]

Who was it who was saying they didn't think our bunch of interceptors had much chance against the GCDS?

Obviously there's always the possibility that probability will be really skewed and we roll 0 6s in 100 rolls or whatever, but I did a way better simulator setup with our 8 interceptors (setup as different ship types for each of me, Khell and Tapper) and ran it a few thousand times - 98% success or so.

I'm feeling pretty good

[Imperial Historian]

Bold is what we are waiting for. Gnaw throw in your interceptor from by the hive and lets see if we can kill a few with missiles to mess up D'reks perfectly laid plan.

[Tattersail_]

Hey IH, with me moving into the hex first does that mean the ancients target me first? Would that not have been better you being targetted first with having the most HP? I don't mind like.

I have sent the above post (update) to Tapper via FB.

This post has been edited by Ganoes Paran: 08 November 2013 - 04:41 PM

[Imperial Historian]

I really hope you don't take the GC this round, I was sure your odds were not that good, but seems like I miscalculated.

[Morgoth]

My second provisional

Move - Fighter to join cruiser

Upkeep -10

[Imperial Historian]

Ganoes Paran, on 08 November 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

Hey IH, with me moving into the hex first does that mean the ancients target me first? Would that not have been better you being targetted first with having the most HP? I don't mind like.

I have sent the above post (update) to Tapper via FB.

No if you move in first they target you last, hence why I passed so you'd move in after me.

If they get three hits in one set of rolls they will target you as they can kill your ship, but anything less and they target me. Chances are we'll kill one ancient in our first firing round, so I doubt they will get three hits.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 08 November 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

I really hope you don't take the GC this round, I was sure your odds were not that good, but seems like I miscalculated.

Hmmmm seems to me that I told you all that you should worry about the other guys taking the GC this turn and ignore that hive hex. But what do I know. I've only won the last two games.

[Imperial Historian]

What's the expected moves from tapper 2 builds and 3 moves? D'rek this is your master plan?

EDIT: You know nothing twelve! Well maybe a little...

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 08 November 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

What's the expected moves from tapper 2 builds and 3 moves? D'rek this is your master plan?

EDIT: You know nothing twelve! Well maybe a little...

You can still stop them IH. Move that Big bad Dread of yours to the GC. Wipe out three or four of those pesky interceptors and then retreat. You hurt the other alliance. The GC is still up for grabs and you gain some nice reputation tiles in the process.

[Imperial Historian]

This was initially my plan... then I realised I'd very cleverly blocked myself off from the GC. So my surprise last minute reaction sending my dreadnought amongst them to wreak havoc is not to be