[Gnaw]

Ganoes Paran, on 01 November 2013 - 08:19 AM, said:

With the newly discovered Hex Captain O Ryan has decided that he can use the new found Economy Planet to his advantage. He sees an opportunity to change one of the Economical Plants on the Super Nova to benefit his cause in the future.


Influence flip 2 colony ships.


Remove one money cube from Grey Planet on Super Nova.
Colonise Money planet on Hex 317
Colonise Grey Planet on Super Nova with Materials.

I just realised using an infuence action would cost me two influence discs. That would be crazy. Instead.

Research NanoRobots - 2 science.

-17 Upkeep = 10 discs = 6 actions + 4 hexes

Bank == $3, S 1, M 5.

Production == $10 = 5 cubes = 3 planet + 1 ambassador + 1 discard

S 3 = 1 cubes = 1 planet
M 3 = 1 cubes = 1 planet

0 unused colony ships,

2 ambassadors free

Unbuilt ships == 8 interceptors, 3 cruisers, 2 dreads, 4 starbases

Tech == neutron bombs, Gauss shield, Nanorobots.

VP = 8 = 5 from hexes + 1 ambassador + 2 discovery tile.

Ooooo. Well, here's your chance to screw me but good:

Influence Action:

• Flip two colony ships.
• Remove Influence Discs from 323 and 213
• -21 upkeep. $2, S 4, M 3.

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw don't do that. You can bankrupt yourself in upkeep. That influence action takes you to -25. Those discs removed would be -17 with only 14 income. You'd have to bankrupt another hex in upkeep. I don't think you are able to do that. If you are at - 21 now, then in upkeep you can remove those two discs to be on -13 upkeep with 14 income.

[Galactic Council]

Tapper, on 01 November 2013 - 08:19 AM, said:

Claim Pulsar. Colonize tier 1 science on Pollux and money on the other tier 1.

I want a Pulsar upgrade action afterwards (replace power source 3 with power 6 on dread).


By my count, I will have 8 money income, 18 in the bank, bankruptcy with 2 discs to be removed. I have 2 tier 3 hexes with no planets, so hey.

Not at all what I expected you to do. Thankfully.

[Gnaw]

Ganoes Paran, on 01 November 2013 - 08:52 AM, said:

Gnaw don't do that. You can bankrupt yourself in upkeep. That influence action takes you to -25. Those discs removed would be -17 with only 14 income. You'd have to bankrupt another hex in upkeep. I don't think you are able to do that. If you are at - 21 now, then in upkeep you can remove those two discs to be on -13 upkeep with 14 income.

Uhm. Okey.

Order Rescinded.


Pass.

Edit: $2, S 4, M 3. -21 upkeep.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 01 November 2013 - 08:57 AM

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw, on 01 November 2013 - 08:54 AM, said:

Ganoes Paran, on 01 November 2013 - 08:52 AM, said:

Gnaw don't do that. You can bankrupt yourself in upkeep. That influence action takes you to -25. Those discs removed would be -17 with only 14 income. You'd have to bankrupt another hex in upkeep. I don't think you are able to do that. If you are at - 21 now, then in upkeep you can remove those two discs to be on -13 upkeep with 14 income.

Uhm. Okey.

Order Rescinded.


Pass.

Now get some ships into the center next turn. I will do the explore you require unless someone else does it for you

[Gnaw]

Gnaw, on 01 November 2013 - 08:54 AM, said:

Ganoes Paran, on 01 November 2013 - 08:52 AM, said:

Gnaw don't do that. You can bankrupt yourself in upkeep. That influence action takes you to -25. Those discs removed would be -17 with only 14 income. You'd have to bankrupt another hex in upkeep. I don't think you are able to do that. If you are at - 21 now, then in upkeep you can remove those two discs to be on -13 upkeep with 14 income.

Uhm. Okey.

Order Rescinded.


Pass.

Edit: $2, S 4, M 3. -21 upkeep.

Ganoes Paran, on 01 November 2013 - 08:56 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 01 November 2013 - 08:54 AM, said:

Ganoes Paran, on 01 November 2013 - 08:52 AM, said:

Gnaw don't do that. You can bankrupt yourself in upkeep. That influence action takes you to -25. Those discs removed would be -17 with only 14 income. You'd have to bankrupt another hex in upkeep. I don't think you are able to do that. If you are at - 21 now, then in upkeep you can remove those two discs to be on -13 upkeep with 14 income.

Uhm. Okey.

Order Rescinded.


Pass.

Now get some ships into the center next turn. I will do the explore you require unless someone else does it for you

Actually that brings up something I've been meaning to look up for two days and never get around to it.

If the Draco have a ship in the center, is it considered pinned for Influence action purposes?

[Gnaw]

I distinctly recall reading an Eclipse forum entry a couple of weeks ago about Draco running an interceptor into the center on the first turn and influencing Tier I ancient occupied hexes.

But the rulebook seems to say that you can't influence hexes from a pinned ship. And the GCD ancient pins all ships?

[Morgoth]

Gnaw, on 01 November 2013 - 08:42 AM, said:

Stepping out of RP:

Morgoth. Yeah, you're fucked. Again. The good news is neither of your neighbors is D'rek. And alliances will surely play a factor.

I can't really see where I went wrong, but it's a long game and I might very well find ways out of my current situation. Especially with alliances available.

[Gnaw]

Morgoth, on 01 November 2013 - 09:02 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 01 November 2013 - 08:42 AM, said:

Stepping out of RP:

Morgoth. Yeah, you're fucked. Again. The good news is neither of your neighbors is D'rek. And alliances will surely play a factor.

I can't really see where I went wrong, but it's a long game and I might very well find ways out of my current situation. Especially with alliances available.

You didn't go wrong. You even had some decent explores. It's the placement of the wormholes. Just about everyone is trying to wall themselves off.

Without a warp portal or wormhole generator you have to go through CF to get out. The flip side is that anyone wanting to get at you has to go through CF...

[Galactic Council]

@ D'rek: you chat game. How about North America vs the Euro-trash?

[Imperial Historian]

I'm astonished tatts is thinking of allying with gnaw. He is in the perfect Orion situation, only one entrance and a weak neighbour.

I still think morgoths position is pretty strong, but apparently I am alone in this.

That said drek isnt in a great position. 9 player can be like that though. Its not quite as balanced as 6 player

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 01 November 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

I'm astonished tatts is thinking of allying with gnaw. He is in the perfect Orion situation, only one entrance and a weak neighbour.

I still think morgoths position is pretty strong, but apparently I am alone in this.

That said drek isnt in a great position. 9 player can be like that though. Its not quite as balanced as 6 player

Aren't you allied with Gnaw also? That would put us three in a good position no? I come through that doorway and smash Twelve into pieces

[Imperial Historian]

Galactic Council, on 01 November 2013 - 08:52 AM, said:

Tapper, on 01 November 2013 - 08:19 AM, said:

Claim Pulsar. Colonize tier 1 science on Pollux and money on the other tier 1.

I want a Pulsar upgrade action afterwards (replace power source 3 with power 6 on dread).


By my count, I will have 8 money income, 18 in the bank, bankruptcy with 2 discs to be removed. I have 2 tier 3 hexes with no planets, so hey.

Not at all what I expected you to do. Thankfully.

I was sure you'd save that money and pull an eridani.ah well. BTW on that count you only remove 1 disc as you have 26 money, don't colonise the money planet and you can remove 2

[Gnaw]

Imperial Historian, on 01 November 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

I still think morgoths position is pretty strong, but apparently I am alone in this.

Shhhh!

He's in a great position. But why let him know?

[Imperial Historian]

Ganoes Paran, on 01 November 2013 - 10:03 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 01 November 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

I'm astonished tatts is thinking of allying with gnaw. He is in the perfect Orion situation, only one entrance and a weak neighbour.

I still think morgoths position is pretty strong, but apparently I am alone in this.

That said drek isnt in a great position. 9 player can be like that though. Its not quite as balanced as 6 player

Aren't you allied with Gnaw also? That would put us three in a good position no? I come through that doorway and smash Twelve into pieces

No, I'm not even going to think about alliances until turn 3, I don't want to get into an alliance with someone so soon. Plus 3 way alliance with twelve out in the cold would be boring!

[Galactic Council]

Ganoes Paran, on 01 November 2013 - 10:03 AM, said:

Aren't you allied with Gnaw also? That would put us three in a good position no? I come through that doorway and smash Twelve into pieces

Tatts, you know diplomatic exchange of ambassadors is not the same thing as alliances right?

They are two different things.

[Tattersail_]

There are no more explores left?

[Tattersail_]

Galactic Council, on 01 November 2013 - 10:16 AM, said:

Ganoes Paran, on 01 November 2013 - 10:03 AM, said:

Aren't you allied with Gnaw also? That would put us three in a good position no? I come through that doorway and smash Twelve into pieces

Tatts, you know diplomatic exchange of ambassadors is not the same thing as alliances right?

They are two different things.

Yes I know that.

[Tattersail_]

So what is the state of play?

[Imperial Historian]

I think we just need confirmed passes from everyone.

Actually I think we are all passed save you tatts.

Edit and we need upkeeps!