[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 7. 24 hours and 25 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Eloth ( Okaros )
2 Votes for Tellan ( Barghast, Gait )
1 Vote for Gait ( Tellan )

Players not voted: Alkend, Eloth, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Trake

If there are any votes anywhere in those walls of text, I'm not reading through them to find out. End of the post and bolded.

-gnaw

[Eloth]

Fucking HO... I always gravitate to him as scum, regardless of if he is or isn't. You'd think I'd learn.
Caught up. I'll address the Okaros vote on me in a sec, but I'm not to concerned about it as we have actual cases out there.

Between Gait, Barghast, and Tellan I actually trust Tellan the most. From his posts he seems to genuinely want to spur on conversation. I have no real read on Gait. He could be a symp, but I am not about to go down that road this late in the game.

Here's what I think. I think Barghast can smell the win. Tellan is the easiest target as he has posted the most among the remaining players and is somewhat invested in this game. (More so than most it seems). He relies on a multi post barrage to try to sway the sheeple and bring it home for scum. I don't like it. It's something Khell would do if he was scum and close to a victory. blind them with bullshit. The case was a whole bunch of posts and a really not very good.

vote Barghast


At this point I could see the sympage coming from gait, especially PIing Trake and now voting for him. But I like my Barghast vote and as I said before. It's really hard to make a symp case. Especially late in the game. I prefer to find inconsistencies and go for scum.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 7. 24 hours and 17 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Eloth ( Okaros )
2 Votes for Tellan ( Barghast, Gait )
1 Vote for Gait ( Tellan )

Players not voted: Alkend, Eloth, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Trake

[Barghast]

Eloth, on 07 August 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Fucking HO... I always gravitate to him as scum, regardless of if he is or isn't. You'd think I'd learn.
Caught up. I'll address the Okaros vote on me in a sec, but I'm not to concerned about it as we have actual cases out there.

Between Gait, Barghast, and Tellan I actually trust Tellan the most. From his posts he seems to genuinely want to spur on conversation. I have no real read on Gait. He could be a symp, but I am not about to go down that road this late in the game.

Here's what I think. I think Barghast can smell the win. Tellan is the easiest target as he has posted the most among the remaining players and is somewhat invested in this game. (More so than most it seems). He relies on a multi post barrage to try to sway the sheeple and bring it home for scum. I don't like it. It's something Khell would do if he was scum and close to a victory. blind them with bullshit. The case was a whole bunch of posts and a really not very good.

vote Barghast


At this point I could see the sympage coming from gait, especially PIing Trake and now voting for him. But I like my Barghast vote and as I said before. It's really hard to make a symp case. Especially late in the game. I prefer to find inconsistencies and go for scum.

please show inconsistencies you speak of to the rest of the class.

otherwise, this post looks like a symp jumping up to back up a master in trouble

[Eloth]

Okaros, on 07 August 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure there's some mechanic in this game that I don't know and can't imagine, but that will explain everything afterwards... but until then I gotta just keep going forward. So in addition to the consideration of people's votes per day from above, I also want to consider night presence. In short:

Night 1 - no one dies
Night 2 - Desra+Liosan die
Night 3 (fast resolve) - Kalse vigged by Rashan
Night 4 (time out) - no one dies - Galain, Korbas, Tellan, Jalan posted during or just before night (Eloth, Gait, Jalan, Okaros all missed night and late day)
Night 5 (did not time out) - Hanas dies
Night 6 (time out) - no one dies (except Roldom modkilled) - everyone but Eloth posted during or just before night


Eloth is the only one that seems to have been absent both times that night timed out and resulted in no kills. Furthermore he only showed up for the first time about halfway through night 1, and night 1 ended not too long afterwards.

Does that explain everything? No, because obviously if he is a killer he had a NK in early for night 3 but it still didn't go through, and likewise for night 1, plus there's got to be a reason for the two deaths on night 2. But those could be explained by heals, vigs, castle mechanics or whatever. I'm not trying to give a concrete view of the whole picture, but the parts that do line up with Eloth being a killer fit very well.

For now

Vote Eloth


as I think this merits a deeper look.

I'm not sure how to respond to this. You are basing a case based upon when I have been on and not. I will say this, any killer thats worth his salt will have put in provisionals. Especially after missing kills in previous nights. I'm not that stupid, and I actually made concerted effort to get on thread when I could. So all I can say is that I would never be as incompetent as your post suggests. Take that for what its worth. At this point in the game I think a better route would be to analyze whats actually happened on thread, rather than what is maybe, possibly happening behind the scenes.

[Eloth]

Barghast, on 07 August 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

Eloth, on 07 August 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Fucking HO... I always gravitate to him as scum, regardless of if he is or isn't. You'd think I'd learn.
Caught up. I'll address the Okaros vote on me in a sec, but I'm not to concerned about it as we have actual cases out there.

Between Gait, Barghast, and Tellan I actually trust Tellan the most. From his posts he seems to genuinely want to spur on conversation. I have no real read on Gait. He could be a symp, but I am not about to go down that road this late in the game.

Here's what I think. I think Barghast can smell the win. Tellan is the easiest target as he has posted the most among the remaining players and is somewhat invested in this game. (More so than most it seems). He relies on a multi post barrage to try to sway the sheeple and bring it home for scum. I don't like it. It's something Khell would do if he was scum and close to a victory. blind them with bullshit. The case was a whole bunch of posts and a really not very good.

vote Barghast


At this point I could see the sympage coming from gait, especially PIing Trake and now voting for him. But I like my Barghast vote and as I said before. It's really hard to make a symp case. Especially late in the game. I prefer to find inconsistencies and go for scum.

please show inconsistencies you speak of to the rest of the class.

otherwise, this post looks like a symp jumping up to back up a master in trouble

Of course it does. To you. Because I won't follow your bullshit case. If a tellan lynch happens and he pops up inno, I'll know right where to look.

[Barghast]

to add to what i've just wrote:

Eloth, it's really easy to start fearmongering. Have you actually read what i wrote?? or did you just see a bunch of posts and got the "only scum would post walls of texts, because town will just vote randomly untill a finder reveals" feeling?

[Eloth]

Barghast, on 07 August 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

Eloth, on 07 August 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Fucking HO... I always gravitate to him as scum, regardless of if he is or isn't. You'd think I'd learn.
Caught up. I'll address the Okaros vote on me in a sec, but I'm not to concerned about it as we have actual cases out there.

Between Gait, Barghast, and Tellan I actually trust Tellan the most. From his posts he seems to genuinely want to spur on conversation. I have no real read on Gait. He could be a symp, but I am not about to go down that road this late in the game.

Here's what I think. I think Barghast can smell the win. Tellan is the easiest target as he has posted the most among the remaining players and is somewhat invested in this game. (More so than most it seems). He relies on a multi post barrage to try to sway the sheeple and bring it home for scum. I don't like it. It's something Khell would do if he was scum and close to a victory. blind them with bullshit. The case was a whole bunch of posts and a really not very good.

vote Barghast


At this point I could see the sympage coming from gait, especially PIing Trake and now voting for him. But I like my Barghast vote and as I said before. It's really hard to make a symp case. Especially late in the game. I prefer to find inconsistencies and go for scum.

please show inconsistencies you speak of to the rest of the class.

otherwise, this post looks like a symp jumping up to back up a master in trouble

The inconsistency is the fact that you haven't done dick all game and when we get to late game you pop on with a novel sized cased to try to herd the sheeple. Your play style is inconsistent.

[Barghast]

Eloth, on 07 August 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Barghast, on 07 August 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

Eloth, on 07 August 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Fucking HO... I always gravitate to him as scum, regardless of if he is or isn't. You'd think I'd learn.
Caught up. I'll address the Okaros vote on me in a sec, but I'm not to concerned about it as we have actual cases out there.

Between Gait, Barghast, and Tellan I actually trust Tellan the most. From his posts he seems to genuinely want to spur on conversation. I have no real read on Gait. He could be a symp, but I am not about to go down that road this late in the game.

Here's what I think. I think Barghast can smell the win. Tellan is the easiest target as he has posted the most among the remaining players and is somewhat invested in this game. (More so than most it seems). He relies on a multi post barrage to try to sway the sheeple and bring it home for scum. I don't like it. It's something Khell would do if he was scum and close to a victory. blind them with bullshit. The case was a whole bunch of posts and a really not very good.

vote Barghast


At this point I could see the sympage coming from gait, especially PIing Trake and now voting for him. But I like my Barghast vote and as I said before. It's really hard to make a symp case. Especially late in the game. I prefer to find inconsistencies and go for scum.

please show inconsistencies you speak of to the rest of the class.

otherwise, this post looks like a symp jumping up to back up a master in trouble

Of course it does. To you. Because I won't follow your bullshit case. If a tellan lynch happens and he pops up inno, I'll know right where to look.

bring it. I'd like to hear where I was inconsistent, btw. As me and Tellan have just discussed, I've been suspicious of him all game. where's this scummy inconsistency you speak of?

[Eloth]

Barghast, on 07 August 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

to add to what i've just wrote:

Eloth, it's really easy to start fearmongering. Have you actually read what i wrote?? or did you just see a bunch of posts and got the "only scum would post walls of texts, because town will just vote randomly untill a finder reveals" feeling?

Fuck you. Don't accuse me of not reading just because I don't buy your case.

[Eloth]

Anyway, I'm out for a bit. At work and I have a lot to do. Have fun voting off Tellan. I won't be a part of it.

[Barghast]

Eloth, on 07 August 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

Barghast, on 07 August 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

Eloth, on 07 August 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Fucking HO... I always gravitate to him as scum, regardless of if he is or isn't. You'd think I'd learn.
Caught up. I'll address the Okaros vote on me in a sec, but I'm not to concerned about it as we have actual cases out there.

Between Gait, Barghast, and Tellan I actually trust Tellan the most. From his posts he seems to genuinely want to spur on conversation. I have no real read on Gait. He could be a symp, but I am not about to go down that road this late in the game.

Here's what I think. I think Barghast can smell the win. Tellan is the easiest target as he has posted the most among the remaining players and is somewhat invested in this game. (More so than most it seems). He relies on a multi post barrage to try to sway the sheeple and bring it home for scum. I don't like it. It's something Khell would do if he was scum and close to a victory. blind them with bullshit. The case was a whole bunch of posts and a really not very good.

vote Barghast


At this point I could see the sympage coming from gait, especially PIing Trake and now voting for him. But I like my Barghast vote and as I said before. It's really hard to make a symp case. Especially late in the game. I prefer to find inconsistencies and go for scum.

please show inconsistencies you speak of to the rest of the class.

otherwise, this post looks like a symp jumping up to back up a master in trouble

The inconsistency is the fact that you haven't done dick all game and when we get to late game you pop on with a novel sized cased to try to herd the sheeple. Your play style is inconsistent.

now you can just fuck right off. I've been vocal on Day 1 telling you fuckers not to talk mechanics. I led the Cast lynch when the rest of people were sitting with thumbs up their ass on Day2. I've been telling you since Day 3 that Rash was inno and anyone voting for him is a fucking moron. I was away for the weekend (BECAUSE I FUCKING TOLD YOU I WOULD BE. HOURS IN ADVANCE). When I came back, I likewise pointed out that Jalan train was bullshit. Throughout all this, I have been saying I don't like Tellan. HE fucking admits it. Others have commented on this.

you have done shit all all game other that follow bullshit trains and you're telling me I've done nothing all game? By your bullshit logic the fact that you've actually taken the time to string more than 2 sentences together in a post makes your play 20 times more inconsistent than mine.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 7. 23 hours and 21 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Eloth ( Okaros )
2 Votes for Tellan ( Barghast, Gait )
1 Vote for Gait ( Tellan )

Players not voted: Alkend, Eloth, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Trake

[Mockra]

Barghast, on 06 August 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 August 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

It is Day 6. 3 hours and 29 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Jalan ( Galain, Eloth, Alkend )

Players not voted: Anthras, Barghast, Gait, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

oh shit, just realized Gait is even playing. This means will deffo need to take a look at him when home.

Barghast, Gait, and Trake are up to something. I just can't decide if I should have faith in them, or realize they're scum. I've never seen anything that appears more staged than the interactions between Barghast and Gait today.

Barghast calls out Trake and I as scum partners, then makes his biggest case against Tellan. Gait and Barghast are voting together. You three have played fairly flawlessly this game, until the last 24 hours. It may not even matter at this point, as it might be too late and you guys are just having fun, but the sudden change in playstyles of faking suspicions about each other, then totally doing 180s is extreme and obvious. The play today is staged.

VOTE BARGHAST

I am really busy at work, and may not be back for a while. I apologize.

[Barghast]

Mockra, on 07 August 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

Barghast, on 06 August 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 August 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

It is Day 6. 3 hours and 29 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Jalan ( Galain, Eloth, Alkend )

Players not voted: Anthras, Barghast, Gait, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

oh shit, just realized Gait is even playing. This means will deffo need to take a look at him when home.

Barghast, Gait, and Trake are up to something. I just can't decide if I should have faith in them, or realize they're scum. I've never seen anything that appears more staged than the interactions between Barghast and Gait today.

Barghast calls out Trake and I as scum partners, then makes his biggest case against Tellan. Gait and Barghast are voting together. You three have played fairly flawlessly this game, until the last 24 hours. It may not even matter at this point, as it might be too late and you guys are just having fun, but the sudden change in playstyles of faking suspicions about each other, then totally doing 180s is extreme and obvious. The play today is staged.

VOTE BARGHAST

I am really busy at work, and may not be back for a while. I apologize.

wtf? when did I call Trake scum?

teh furthest i've ever said about Trake was that he played like me, so I had no real read on him,

[Barghast]

and please don't lump me in with Gait. I've had no interaction with Gait prior to today, really. I've been hating on Tellan for the entire game in some form.

I really wish people'd stop ignoring that fact

[Tellan]

Barghast, on 07 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

Mockra, on 07 August 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

Barghast, on 06 August 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 August 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

It is Day 6. 3 hours and 29 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Jalan ( Galain, Eloth, Alkend )

Players not voted: Anthras, Barghast, Gait, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

oh shit, just realized Gait is even playing. This means will deffo need to take a look at him when home.

Barghast, Gait, and Trake are up to something. I just can't decide if I should have faith in them, or realize they're scum. I've never seen anything that appears more staged than the interactions between Barghast and Gait today.

Barghast calls out Trake and I as scum partners, then makes his biggest case against Tellan. Gait and Barghast are voting together. You three have played fairly flawlessly this game, until the last 24 hours. It may not even matter at this point, as it might be too late and you guys are just having fun, but the sudden change in playstyles of faking suspicions about each other, then totally doing 180s is extreme and obvious. The play today is staged.

VOTE BARGHAST

I am really busy at work, and may not be back for a while. I apologize.

wtf? when did I call Trake scum?

teh furthest i've ever said about Trake was that he played like me, so I had no real read on him,

I think he's confusing you with gait.

[Barghast]

Tellan, on 07 August 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

Barghast, on 07 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

Mockra, on 07 August 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

Barghast, on 06 August 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 August 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

It is Day 6. 3 hours and 29 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Jalan ( Galain, Eloth, Alkend )

Players not voted: Anthras, Barghast, Gait, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

oh shit, just realized Gait is even playing. This means will deffo need to take a look at him when home.

Barghast, Gait, and Trake are up to something. I just can't decide if I should have faith in them, or realize they're scum. I've never seen anything that appears more staged than the interactions between Barghast and Gait today.

Barghast calls out Trake and I as scum partners, then makes his biggest case against Tellan. Gait and Barghast are voting together. You three have played fairly flawlessly this game, until the last 24 hours. It may not even matter at this point, as it might be too late and you guys are just having fun, but the sudden change in playstyles of faking suspicions about each other, then totally doing 180s is extreme and obvious. The play today is staged.

VOTE BARGHAST

I am really busy at work, and may not be back for a while. I apologize.

wtf? when did I call Trake scum?

teh furthest i've ever said about Trake was that he played like me, so I had no real read on him,

I think he's confusing you with gait.

and what do you make of all this?

[Tellan]

TBH, I'm not convinced, or even reasonably suspicious you're scum. Gait, on the other hand is scummy as hell to me. So I would expect that either Mockra was skimming and thought some of Gait's posts were by you, so he voted you, or he's seeing a different version of what I'm seeing. The Trake and Gait connection I can see, however. Gait PI-ed Trake, then put him out as a scum suspect within a rather small period of time. So the 180 is suspicious. What I could see, however, is Gait purposefully following you so as to bring suspicion onto you, and paint you as the killer with him as the symp, so we go after you instead of him. Even you said he was top of your suspicion for symp, but I think that's what he wants us to think

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 7. 21 hours and 29 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Eloth ( Okaros )
2 Votes for Tellan ( Barghast, Gait )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Mockra )
1 Vote for Gait ( Tellan )

Players not voted: Alkend, Eloth, Galain, Korbas, Trake