[Barghast]

Tellan, on 07 August 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

TBH, I'm not convinced, or even reasonably suspicious you're scum. Gait, on the other hand is scummy as hell to me. So I would expect that either Mockra was skimming and thought some of Gait's posts were by you, so he voted you, or he's seeing a different version of what I'm seeing. The Trake and Gait connection I can see, however. Gait PI-ed Trake, then put him out as a scum suspect within a rather small period of time. So the 180 is suspicious. What I could see, however, is Gait purposefully following you so as to bring suspicion onto you, and paint you as the killer with him as the symp, so we go after you instead of him. Even you said he was top of your suspicion for symp, but I think that's what he wants us to think

it's all kinds of sad that I'm discussing this situation with my top suspect,

that being said, I don't like Gait's play right now.

And i'm curious why PS keeps ignoring Eloth's vote on me.

[Gnaw]

It is Day 7. 21 hours and 25 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Eloth ( Okaros )
2 Votes for Tellan ( Barghast, Gait )
2 Votes for Barghast ( Mockra, Eloth )
1 Vote for Gait ( Tellan )

Players not voted: Alkend, Galain, Korbas, Trake


Because he voted in the middle of a post right AFTER I said

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End of the post and bolded.

-gnaw

[Barghast]

Gnaw, on 07 August 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:

It is Day 7. 21 hours and 25 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Eloth ( Okaros )
2 Votes for Tellan ( Barghast, Gait )
2 Votes for Barghast ( Mockra, Eloth )
1 Vote for Gait ( Tellan )

Players not voted: Alkend, Galain, Korbas, Trake


Because he voted in the middle of a post right AFTER I said

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End of the post and bolded.

-gnaw

i'm guessing this is a new rule?

[Mockra]

Barghast, on 07 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

Mockra, on 07 August 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

Barghast, on 06 August 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 August 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

It is Day 6. 3 hours and 29 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Jalan ( Galain, Eloth, Alkend )

Players not voted: Anthras, Barghast, Gait, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

oh shit, just realized Gait is even playing. This means will deffo need to take a look at him when home.

Barghast, Gait, and Trake are up to something. I just can't decide if I should have faith in them, or realize they're scum. I've never seen anything that appears more staged than the interactions between Barghast and Gait today.

Barghast calls out Trake and I as scum partners, then makes his biggest case against Tellan. Gait and Barghast are voting together. You three have played fairly flawlessly this game, until the last 24 hours. It may not even matter at this point, as it might be too late and you guys are just having fun, but the sudden change in playstyles of faking suspicions about each other, then totally doing 180s is extreme and obvious. The play today is staged.

VOTE BARGHAST

I am really busy at work, and may not be back for a while. I apologize.

wtf? when did I call Trake scum?

teh furthest i've ever said about Trake was that he played like me, so I had no real read on him,

Yeah, yeah. I'm busy and I'm not suppose to be online from this desk. Funny you mention that comment about you and Trake being similar, because I didn't have time to dig it up, and my notes are at home, but you posted something like 'me and Trake post the same, and this means...nothing,' or something close. I have it down as you signalling Trake. Plus all the posts where you signal the others with the phrase 'I wiki look at player X', usually made close to the end of day timeout. I believe you're using it to signal with either Trake, or Gait, or both. Now move on to the part of your plan that the Takeda spy overheard where you plan to claim healer, or finder. One of them . Mentioned encoding it in one of your posts maybe. Or was that Gait as well. You're both so damned interchangeable. One of them is the others symp. I'll stay with Barghast, but I'd vote Gait as well. They're both in it together.

Ask Alkend what he thinks . If he's who I think he is.

[Barghast]

Mockra, on 07 August 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

Barghast, on 07 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

Mockra, on 07 August 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

Barghast, on 06 August 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 August 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

It is Day 6. 3 hours and 29 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Jalan ( Galain, Eloth, Alkend )

Players not voted: Anthras, Barghast, Gait, Jalan, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

oh shit, just realized Gait is even playing. This means will deffo need to take a look at him when home.

Barghast, Gait, and Trake are up to something. I just can't decide if I should have faith in them, or realize they're scum. I've never seen anything that appears more staged than the interactions between Barghast and Gait today.

Barghast calls out Trake and I as scum partners, then makes his biggest case against Tellan. Gait and Barghast are voting together. You three have played fairly flawlessly this game, until the last 24 hours. It may not even matter at this point, as it might be too late and you guys are just having fun, but the sudden change in playstyles of faking suspicions about each other, then totally doing 180s is extreme and obvious. The play today is staged.

VOTE BARGHAST

I am really busy at work, and may not be back for a while. I apologize.

wtf? when did I call Trake scum?

teh furthest i've ever said about Trake was that he played like me, so I had no real read on him,

Yeah, yeah. I'm busy and I'm not suppose to be online from this desk. Funny you mention that comment about you and Trake being similar, because I didn't have time to dig it up, and my notes are at home, but you posted something like 'me and Trake post the same, and this means...nothing,' or something close. I have it down as you signalling Trake. Plus all the posts where you signal the others with the phrase 'I wiki look at player X', usually made close to the end of day timeout. I believe you're using it to signal with either Trake, or Gait, or both. Now move on to the part of your plan that the Takeda spy overheard where you plan to claim healer, or finder. One of them . Mentioned encoding it in one of your posts maybe. Or was that Gait as well. You're both so damned interchangeable. One of them is the others symp. I'll stay with Barghast, but I'd vote Gait as well. They're both in it together.

Ask Alkend what he thinks . If he's who I think he is.

The exact quote was.. "and that means I can't say much about him" It's knda hard to get a read on someone who plays same as you.

as for the Takeda spy thing--only mention of that was in a PS scene, so I'd really like to have a bit of what you're smoking.

[Barghast]

I'd love to get Alkend's opinion on this, btw, but his posting's been more erratic that most of you put together.

[Tellan]

Ok, Mockra, care to elaborate?

[Gnaw]

Barghast, on 07 August 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 07 August 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:

Because he voted in the middle of a post right AFTER I said

Quote

End of the post and bolded.

-gnaw

i'm guessing this is a new rule?

You know, I honestly thought that it was a rule; just one that was enforced in varying degrees by different mods. I know I've had it said to me before as if it was.

So, no, it's not a rule. And I have no plans on making it a rule for this game. Not my game to do so and I do get that phones happen, last minute thoughts happen, shit happens.

Shinrei already warned that he wasn't going to be counting any votes that were not on a separate line. I've been as guilty as anyone about burying votes in the middle of text. It is annoying on this side of the game though.

But I will say that I if I miss one and it's not on its own line don't come whining about it. And it would be very helpful if it was at the end of the post.


/rant Please continue your discussions about who should be murdered next.

[Barghast]

Gait's recent jumping has been suspicious as fuck. Though I think it's too blatant to be a killer. I'm not averse to voting that way, but i'm about 80% convinced Gait's a symp, whereas i'm about 90% convinced Tellan is scum.

Mockra's saying things that don't make sense. Eloth is spouting pure bullshit. Trake is gone for an entire day, Galain says he has no idea when he'll be on again. Alkend posts once in a blue moon, and usually just plops on the biggest train at the time.

This leaves Okaros and Korbas, both of whom are enigmas right now.

[Barghast]

Heading home. Sincerely hope we'll get more action this evening.

[Mockra]

Barghast, on 07 August 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

Gait's recent jumping has been suspicious as fuck. Though I think it's too blatant to be a killer. I'm not averse to voting that way, but i'm about 80% convinced Gait's a symp, whereas i'm about 90% convinced Tellan is scum.

Mockra's saying things that don't make sense. Eloth is spouting pure bullshit. Trake is gone for an entire day, Galain says he has no idea when he'll be on again. Alkend posts once in a blue moon, and usually just plops on the biggest train at the time.

This leaves Okaros and Korbas, both of whom are enigmas right now.

And it's 100% convenient that you can find an excuse not to follow up on any previous staged comments of concern about Gait. I didn't find you guys scummy until all this. I bet Barghast and Gait won't be on any lynch train of the other, which wouldn't be too odd, but given their apparent mistrust of each other...well it is obviously fake. And I don't understand why two town would need to construct such a display.

I just know that you are putting on this charade and I'm not sure why. I'm off, long commute. I'm not sure if it'll be tonight when I get back on, but before normal time out.

[Trake]

Ok, all caught up now. I had to reread both pages 3 times because of the Barghast/Tellan coloured replies and the fact that I keep mixing them and Gait up because of all the green in their avatars but I think I'm fully up to speed now. My scumdar for a couple days now has been pinging in the direction of Gait, Mockra, Eloth and Korbas. These are my reasons.

Gait - All the PIing is scummy as fuck. There's nothing I really have to add to ?Tellan's? case from earlier, he did a good job at summarizing the sketchy shit, I just want to acknowledge that I've noticed the same behaviour and came to the same conclusion as Tellan. Said behaviour is possibly sympy, as a number of you green mofos have said, but it could be a scum trying to seem as sympy as possible to prey on our lack of a desire to lynch a symp.

Mockra - I called him out earlier and, as much as I hate to shit on the RL defense after using it so much myself, I find it super hard to reconcile the immediate boost in post count that my earlier case on him produced.

Eloth and Korbas - Both have posted just enough that I remember them as people that have been posting. I'll be rereading both after I finish this post and forming a concrete opinion on both. Eloth in particular has done a good job of being confrontational today but as Bargh pointed out he's inconsistent as fuck by simple virtue of suddenly becoming confrontational. Especially after that continuous lurking of the previous week.

Now, Eloth and Korbas are currently just gut feelings. They will get their writeups shortly, along with a fresh one on Mockra. Gait and Mockra, however, are both people that I've had a bad feeling about for some time and that have backed up that bad feeling with their play. And so, since I think Gait is the more likely killer of my top 2 suspects I will

vote Gait

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 7. 18 hours and 56 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Eloth ( Okaros )
2 Votes for Tellan ( Barghast, Gait )
2 Votes for Barghast ( Mockra, Eloth )
2 Votes for Gait ( Tellan, Trake )

Players not voted: Alkend, Galain, Korbas

-gnaw

[Barghast]

Mockra, on 07 August 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

Barghast, on 07 August 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

Gait's recent jumping has been suspicious as fuck. Though I think it's too blatant to be a killer. I'm not averse to voting that way, but i'm about 80% convinced Gait's a symp, whereas i'm about 90% convinced Tellan is scum.

Mockra's saying things that don't make sense. Eloth is spouting pure bullshit. Trake is gone for an entire day, Galain says he has no idea when he'll be on again. Alkend posts once in a blue moon, and usually just plops on the biggest train at the time.

This leaves Okaros and Korbas, both of whom are enigmas right now.

And it's 100% convenient that you can find an excuse not to follow up on any previous staged comments of concern about Gait. I didn't find you guys scummy until all this. I bet Barghast and Gait won't be on any lynch train of the other, which wouldn't be too odd, but given their apparent mistrust of each other...well it is obviously fake. And I don't understand why two town would need to construct such a display.

I just know that you are putting on this charade and I'm not sure why. I'm off, long commute. I'm not sure if it'll be tonight when I get back on, but before normal time out.

if the thread's gonna decide to vote off Gait, I'll change. But no one so far has convinced me that he's a killer. Tellan's non-confrontational "look, I have to mention that i'm doing what good town should do" style strikes me as much more likely killer material. Add to that Eloth straight up saying he won't vote for Telann, and, well, you get the picture.

We need 6 votes to lynch. If Gait gets to L-2, I will switch to him.

[Galain]

Barghast, on 07 August 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

Gait's recent jumping has been suspicious as fuck. Though I think it's too blatant to be a killer. I'm not averse to voting that way, but i'm about 80% convinced Gait's a symp, whereas i'm about 90% convinced Tellan is scum.

Mockra's saying things that don't make sense. Eloth is spouting pure bullshit. Trake is gone for an entire day, Galain says he has no idea when he'll be on again. Alkend posts once in a blue moon, and usually just plops on the biggest train at the time.

This leaves Okaros and Korbas, both of whom are enigmas right now.

I'll be back at at computer in 14 hours tops, maybe 10. I can't make out shit of the discussions on my phone because I can't see the avatar and the post at the same time so unless there is a clear consensus shortly I'm saving my voting till tomorrow. I'll be there for sure so someone'll be voted for, just can't make head nor tail of it on my phone.

[Trake]

Alright, so I looked at Korbas first. He's actually really hard to come to a conclusion on. On the one hand he has been throwing out a lot of game meta comments and asking a lot of questions about people. Most of his direct interactions were with Rashan though. He was very much in favor of a Barghast lynch day 1 but hasn't even mentioned him since then. He was around for the vote clusterfuck on Friday morning and his posting has pretty much petered out since then. All in all very difficult for me to make a decision on. My gut tells me he's right in the scum sweet spot, but to read him he just sounds so townish. I ask someone else to take a look and hopefully we will be able to compare notes. Going to look at Eloth next.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 7. 17 hours and 22 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Eloth ( Okaros )
2 Votes for Tellan ( Barghast, Gait )
2 Votes for Barghast ( Mockra, Eloth )
2 Votes for Gait ( Tellan, Trake )

Players not voted: Alkend, Galain, Korbas

[Trake]

Ok, Eloth is interesting. First couple days he's happy to just throw out a couple comments, mostly agreeing with other suggestions made. Is often away from thread due to RL but has made an effort to keep his nose in the game. Most significant contribution to the game was in the last two days where he came in vocally opposed to the Rashan lynch and then presented Jalan as an alternative. He then pushed his Jalan case hard and, as he might word it, herded the sheeple towards a lynch that was increasingly obviously going to be a town cf. And then today he's just been jumping on anyone he can call scum. Similar to Korbas it is hard to get a definitive feeling about Eloth but I've still got him very high on my scum list after the reread. Not as high as Gait and Mockra though.

[Trake]

Also, Alkend is now 28.5 hours from his last post. With Rash all but confirming him town it would suck ass if he let himself get modkilled just because he can't be arsed to get over his useless role and fucking play.

[Tellan]

Trake, on 07 August 2013 - 11:27 PM, said:

Alright, so I looked at Korbas first. He's actually really hard to come to a conclusion on. On the one hand he has been throwing out a lot of game meta comments and asking a lot of questions about people. Most of his direct interactions were with Rashan though. He was very much in favor of a Barghast lynch day 1 but hasn't even mentioned him since then. He was around for the vote clusterfuck on Friday morning and his posting has pretty much petered out since then. All in all very difficult for me to make a decision on. My gut tells me he's right in the scum sweet spot, but to read him he just sounds so townish. I ask someone else to take a look and hopefully we will be able to compare notes. Going to look at Eloth next.

I just took a look, and he seems pretty townish to me too. He seemed early on to be very involved and willing to discuss, and most of his posts reflect that, but as we get more and more recent his posts don't just peter out in amount, but he posts less and less content. But that could be explained by the connection issues he mentioned multiple times earlier in the game.