[Ultama]

Fener, on 08 July 2013 - 09:52 PM, said:

Again, might not be a Rebel move. Even if it is you can be sure the person behind it has been reading thread and knows exactly what is going down and has made their call based on it.

Why do I get the feeling you're not going to like our plan.

[Ryllandaras]

Hood's Path. Tricky customer to pin down. Mainly because there's so few posts, and even when there are posts, a fair few are 'here and catching up' type posts.

HP is actually quite active on Day 1, and the way their activity since then has nosedived is quite noticeable. They were the first to comment on infestation and how fast it could potentially spread, had a bit of a bite at Trake too before removing their vote and placing it on Fener.

After that, silence for the most part. Day 3 seems to support a Mockra vote:

Hood, on 03 July 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Here and somewhat caught up.

I'm willing to lynch Mockra for that slip, but I will wait to hear from him, before I place my vote.

HP is also the one to suggest blocking Tiam and Rashan's posts. Would a fellow Vord do that? Could do - use it as something to bring up if they ever get any heat themselves, but I'm not sure.

Hood, on 03 July 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

I for one may leap desperately upon Ultamas idea and start hitting Report for every post you two make.

I'm up for that. Silencer couldn't punish us if enough different people did it.

I just changed my settings, so that their post wont show up. Makes for a much easier reading.

Today professes a desire to look at Shelly, though doesn't exactly go into details. And I have to doubt, considering their style of play thus far, that they would look closer into Shelly themselves.

Hood, on 08 July 2013 - 06:34 PM, said:

Liosan, on 08 July 2013 - 06:20 PM, said:

Hood, on 08 July 2013 - 06:18 PM, said:

Kedeviss, on 08 July 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:

Liosan, on 08 July 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

I don't see any point in voting Barghast. He's going to be modkilled.

we keep saying that, but what if he isn't?

If he magically shows up tomorrow before his mod kill, I'd be willing to think there is more going on. Do you think he is puppet-mastering behind the scenes hoping everyone forgets that he is playing?

I'd be surprised if he hasn't forgotten that he is playing.

oh hey, another low poster. Since you so kindly stopped by, any thoughts?

Well, my read on the thread is mediocre at best, but the reveals from Korbas and Emur seem legit, whereas I'm not sold on the Okaros - Galain reveal.

Of the names not cleared I would be interested in Shelly, since she is one of the people suspected to be a multiple alt and still managed to stay under the radar.

So purely based on the ones I've looked at thus far (Demelain, Gait, HP) HP is the favourite for Vord Queen, but more because I have greater trouble believing the other two, than because of anything HP has said or done. But that's also the problem with HP. He's said or done so little. Onwards!

[Fener]

Ultama, on 08 July 2013 - 10:00 PM, said:

Fener, on 08 July 2013 - 09:52 PM, said:

Again, might not be a Rebel move. Even if it is you can be sure the person behind it has been reading thread and knows exactly what is going down and has made their call based on it.

Why do I get the feeling you're not going to like our plan.

Actually, I think the voting blocks you've identified are great, I'm just wondering who feels like building the case on Rhll though. I'm happy if I think the person is a sensible target I also have suspicions of. I should point out though that I can in no way/shape/form expect Trake to follow my lead - or should you expect me to follow his. Hell, his thoughts about us being on the same team may be wrong too.

[Fener]

Gait, on 08 July 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2013 - 05:09 PM, said:

Trake, on 08 July 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 08 July 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

An army of Immortals has appeared on the Calderon tile.

Wat.

Someone seems to have gotten a little mad at all the reveals.

It wouldn't surprise me if that is headed to Alera Imperia to make bad things happen.

I just wonder if Sextus has anything to counter it with.

If one side has a mega-mechanic and we started at parity of numbers I'd expect the other side to too - maybe Gaius can BP all Loyalists for a Dawn every 3 days or can lay a trap for the Immortals on a tile?

Hell, we don't even know what they do yet and are lets face it, are unlikely to do so till someone gets crushed by them. Or embraced.

I'd expect them to be anti-loyalist but this is Blend we're dealing with here...

[Fener]

I'm actually finding the Immortals quite entertaining sat here - I'm imagining all those people who haven't put move orders in plotting how far away they can get and all those that have thinking to themselves "oh shiiiii..." Just remember the Queen is out there and may still have a Recruit mechanism all you fleeing...

[Ultama]

Fener, on 08 July 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

I should point out though that I can in no way/shape/form expect Trake to follow my lead - or should you expect me to follow his.

I don't care if you follow each other or not. Just so long as we can find a mutual target.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Agree with monok, that was a great read up. Info orgy.

I believe korbas an emurlahn. Faction relations are getting clearer although im sure there is some deviousness in there.

Vord queen must be lying low imo, HP would be a candidate in my mind.

As for suspicions towards me , I voted tiam early , which like rhyll put it, would make me a very bad team player. My laying low is mostly due to limites internet access. Over the break (when we lynched tiam) was when i had the most time.

[Ryllandaras]

Kedeviss.


Though not keen on a Fener vote, doubts the existence of keepers (which we now know do exist) on day 1.

Kedeviss, on 25 June 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Interesting stuff so far. I think Fener is obviously coming from a position of having read the books, though his speculation is more specific than I would have come up with initially. Were I designing the game, I'd have used the two queens (were there three in the books? Can't remember now), and furycrafting Vord to balance with the furycrafting humans. I suppose keepers could be a queen ability to help spread the infestation, I just don't really see them as an alt. though.

States that they want to look further into the failed Fener lynch train. This never happens.

Kedeviss, on 26 June 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 26 June 2013 - 11:50 PM, said:

Kedeviss, on 26 June 2013 - 11:45 PM, said:

Fener, on 26 June 2013 - 11:41 PM, said:

Well, at least we know that Mr Multiple Alts doesn't get (all?) his counted and that there was at least one amongst those voting on me.

Guess so. Probably wouldn't be too difficult to narrow down who that alt is by some smart voting in the next few days. That, or you need more votes to get a lynch.

Yeah the timing makes it pretty ugly. Did we fail to Lynch Fener because the day timer ran out and he didn't have enough "valid" votes to lynch (either because some votes didn't count or he needs more votes)? Or maybe he had a lynchproof ability?

The first one makes me want to vote for people on his train. The second one makes me want to vote for Fener again tomorrow.

Yeah, exactly. It's going to make day 2 interesting... I do believe his reveal of info though, which makes me want to look into the train more. It had the feel of desperation, and it sounded completely valid.

Kedeviss is generally lukewarm towards 'Alera' Tiam, though appears to grow more convinced as the day wore on. Has some pretty serious doubts over Korbas, though in all honesty this is exactly the sort of criticisms I had of Korbas' play also.

Kedeviss, on 28 June 2013 - 03:19 PM, said:

Korbas, on 28 June 2013 - 08:09 AM, said:

The reason I am voting Nimander is his obsession with Tiam. If Tiam is right and can boost abilities then this may help us against the Vord Queen. If Tiam is wrong and he is just a vord spawn then he is not a big fish. I think Nimander is worried because he has already stated he was attacked last night. A leader asking for a heal? He is worried that if attacks are boosted then his heal could be penetrated.


I think Fener is Octavian and that is why the interaction with Tiam sounds true. I don't think the first Aleran's are our enemy. I think we should do our best to get them on our side because they are the most neutral faction. People may try to sugar coat easy lynches but I think the tougher lynches will provide the most fruit. I would like to see who defends Nimander. At the moment he is my top suspect for Vord Queen.

Korbas, on 28 June 2013 - 10:37 AM, said:

You are on Celes is my guess.

Ok caught up and here til time-out.

This is something that stuck out to me. If you seriously think that Fener is Tavi, why would you ever bring it up? I get this isn't a standard MP game where revealing a role like the healer to the thread is scummy, but the same idea kinda applies here considering that Tavi would be the best defense against the Vord threat and is on a neutral faction. Then you also went and told the thread where you think he is currently located. Well that doesn't help the Vord or anything.


Not only that, now you are claiming to be FA yourself, and yet you potentially revealed your leader and the numbers of your faction. What? That is not good play, if you are telling the truth, which is possible because your ability makes sense.


Edit- formatting

This post is a bit interesting. Suggests that we do not need to try and kill Tiam and Rashan on a daily basis. This strikes me as a pretty dangerous thought.

Kedeviss, on 03 July 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

Well that was a fun catch up. Nothing like a musical interlude to set the tone...

Anyway, I've been thinking over the respawning Vord issue and have a few thoughts. First, it is possible that each alt has a number of lives (say three) corresponding to a different generic role like keeper, warrior, etc. and the alt will continue to spawn until it has been completely eliminated. I only say that because I assume Tiam and Rashan were spawned in the same way, so I had expected similar CFs. Worth checking, especially since we need to keep those two in check anyway.

Which brings me to my second thought, if they are respawning in the infested territory they initially spawned from then we don't need to kill them daily because it may take more than one dusk phase for them to be useful. This, obviously assumes the opposite of above, that they do not have a finite number of lives. But we need to figure out how to control them, aside from stopping further infestations.


Anyway, I'm willing to hammer on Mockra. Not sure if I should wait or just get it over with though.

Kedeviss was also the hammer on Mockra, having not really made any comments on Mockra before then. The last post above is the one that stands out the most really from their play. Generally, Kedeviss has posted sparsely, but more often than not with content.

[Ultama]

Ryllandaras, on 08 July 2013 - 10:52 PM, said:

This post is a bit interesting. Suggests that we do not need to try and kill Tiam and Rashan on a daily basis. This strikes me as a pretty dangerous thought.

A dangerous thought at the time it was said or dangerous thought still?

[Sheltatha Lore]

The immortals appearance is a rebel play against loyalists if i understand correctly, but does that mean this army doesnt do anything against the vord? If thy are badass, maybe they could keep killing off rashan and tiam or something.

[Liosan]

Ey, peeps. Change of plans: city's been hit by crazy rainstorm, power's out. giving you a heads up on my phone, but depending when power comes back, I may not get on again till I'm back @ work tom. hopefully, itll come back tonight, but who knows. I gotta conserve phone battery, cuz its pretty dead. ciao.

[Sheltatha Lore]

I am also posting from my phone and will check the game periodically.

[Ryllandaras]

Monok Ochem.


Monok gets involved in an early, non-heated, exchange with Mockra. Real or faked?

Monok Ochem, on 25 June 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

Mockra, on 25 June 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 25 June 2013 - 07:52 PM, said:

Mockra, on 25 June 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

I wonder if the First Aleran can boost other players' abilities: I get this thought from where it says in the OP that he 'seeks to prepare Alera for the incoming horde.'


As for the Vord: definitely sound like a cult to me from the OP. Which means they likely start out as an individual/small group. It's interesting that they have a choice in their VCs - eliminate all others OR infest all tiles.

Well, if they eliminate all others then no one would be left to stop them from infesting all the tiles? I'm guessing that's why it's worded this way.

Well, you only look at it from one side there. They can also infest all tiles to win, which sounds like they don't have to actually 'eliminate' anyone. Unless infestation also involves killing others, of course. It might involve recruitment somehow I suppose.

Not really. I'm just pointing out that they win by infesting all tiles. I think the 'or eliminating all others' is included because there could potentially (I suppose ) be a situation where everyone but the Vord are dead. If their VC had only said 'infest all tiles' we would potentially have to arbitrarily wait for an additional X amount of days for the remaining Vord to finish infesting the rest of the tiles. And if no one is left to stop them, this would just be a waste of time, as the outcome would be already known. At least that's how I see it.

Monok is the first (I think) to notice the new alt Tiam when that appears.

Monok Ochem, on 27 June 2013 - 07:09 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 June 2013 - 03:54 AM, said:

It is now Day 2. 34 hours remaining.

Players alive: Alkend, Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tellan, Tiamatha, Trake, Ultama, Venesara

12 votes to lynch, 12 votes to go to night.



Players not voted: Alkend, Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tellan, Tiamatha, Trake, Ultama, Venesara

Hmmmm. 23 alts now?
Welcome Tiamatha?

I've included this post below because it is pretty indicative of Monok's posting style. Speculation and the laying out of various options without committing to one abounds to an extent. It looks like content, but it's arguable as to how helpful it really is.

Monok Ochem, on 27 June 2013 - 09:18 AM, said:

Well, I'm really interested in what the new alt, Tiamatha, has to say about how and why they are just now joining the game. I'm guessing it could be many, many things based on the TMDI being 10+. I'm guessing it could have had something to do with Fener surviving the lynch. It could have something to do with an FM, which could be from which faction(s)? It could be part of the Vord infestation mechanic. For example, they spawn a new alt and leave it on a specific tile for whatever reason. The new alt could actually be one of the Vord jumping into a new alt, and leaving their old alt behind on a specific tile to infest or defend or whatever. It could be the spawn of the First Aleran faction as some type of defense or offense. It could be anything at this moment.

Fener, I'm still wanting to see proof of the claims you made about certain abilities, or you would still be up for another lynch attempt, but you could actually have been the one to spawn and jump into Tiamatha because you know you're getting heat. There's just so much for us to worry about and keep tabs on already, and it's only day 2. We need to hear from our newest guest ASAP.

Now we come to the clearly relevant parts. Here is Monok's first link of Alkend and Mockra. I believe this happens soon after Alkend gets a few fingers pointed at him.

Monok Ochem, on 28 June 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

I will say I believe Alkend and Mockra are the same player, but it's semi-wild speculation.

Soon after, Monok shows us what he is talking about. Note, this is still day 2, as a Trake lynch is being mooted. This is really interesting. This kind of thing is either a fantastic spot by a player on their game, or it's a setup to 'CI' Monok. And if it's a setup, you have to then ask, were the Mockra and Alkend posts also set up just for something like this? Or something which was noticed later and decided to be used? I think that the simplest explanation is that Monok just happened to spot this, but then we come back to whether we can believe how great this find is, because that is quite a little thing really to be able to spot.

Monok Ochem, on 28 June 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Alkend, on 26 June 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

Korbas, on 26 June 2013 - 08:29 AM, said:

Alkend, on 26 June 2013 - 07:43 AM, said:

Lots and lots of talk about the Vord. I guess that means we're going on a bug hunt (are they bugs? That's what I'm imagining in my head).

Any reason we wouldn't go after the Vord? Their goal is to eliminate us all, everyone has a Vord elimination VC. Makes sense no?

When you put it like that, yeah. But for most the VC is to eliminate the Vord Queen and fuck (not literally) the rest of the Vord. One individual between twenty-something players might take a while to track down. I'm certainly not expecting the factions to remain the bestest of friends if it does end up a long chase.
It might be tough to not have this game go the way such books always go (and I bet in the Alera series too). Loads of squabbling and fighting between various armies/petty nations etc, whilst a bigger threat grows ever stronger in the background.
Very fun-looking setup this!

Mockra, on 25 June 2013 - 12:25 AM, said:

Hi all! Looks to be a fun/confusing one this!

Is this expression common elsewhere? It's not here, so if so, this is nothing, plus I don't have my notes, and can't remember the other really petty things I found. I'm not advocating their lynch really, just tossing anything at all I have put there.

Monok makes his 'remember that I told you so' post.

Monok Ochem, on 03 July 2013 - 10:35 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 03 July 2013 - 06:20 AM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 28 June 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Alkend, on 26 June 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

Korbas, on 26 June 2013 - 08:29 AM, said:

Alkend, on 26 June 2013 - 07:43 AM, said:

Lots and lots of talk about the Vord. I guess that means we're going on a bug hunt (are they bugs? That's what I'm imagining in my head).

Any reason we wouldn't go after the Vord? Their goal is to eliminate us all, everyone has a Vord elimination VC. Makes sense no?

When you put it like that, yeah. But for most the VC is to eliminate the Vord Queen and fuck (not literally) the rest of the Vord. One individual between twenty-something players might take a while to track down. I'm certainly not expecting the factions to remain the bestest of friends if it does end up a long chase.
It might be tough to not have this game go the way such books always go (and I bet in the Alera series too). Loads of squabbling and fighting between various armies/petty nations etc, whilst a bigger threat grows ever stronger in the background.
Very fun-looking setup this!

Mockra, on 25 June 2013 - 12:25 AM, said:

Hi all! Looks to be a fun/confusing one this!

Is this expression common elsewhere? It's not here, so if so, this is nothing, plus I don't have my notes, and can't remember the other really petty things I found. I'm not advocating their lynch really, just tossing anything at all I have put there.

I remember thinking Alkend and Mockra were the same person, and we now know Alkend was Vord, and Mockra tried to jump on the last lynch train after it was too late. It may be nothing, but I'd look at Mockra more closely.

By the way, I'm the one who started the case against Mockra. I also posted this same exact post WAY earlier saying Alkend and Mockra appeared to be the same person, thus good choices for one player controlling both alts. Keep this is mind.

[Ryllandaras]

I'm throwing in a little diversion from the Mockra-Alkend talk. Here, Monok speculates on Vord tactics. If Monok is Vord, it could also be trying to manipulate how we go about thinking the Vord might operate.

Monok Ochem, on 08 July 2013 - 04:26 AM, said:

Korbas, on 07 July 2013 - 05:02 PM, said:

What questions do you want me to answer?

I'm confused by the votes on me. I'm confused by the posts being posted at theed moment. Are you voting me for more information?

Why do you think the great furies will be good for anyone? One of them makes 5 damage to everyone on that tile.

The Great Furies could possibly, if used right, be one of the best weapons/defenses against the Vord infestation, albeit near end-game scenarios come to mind most clearly. The Vord are the only faction that it makes the most sense for actually having to be at and remain at certain tiles to 'infest.' This could prove a huge weakness near the end, or maybe sooner. Activating certain furies when certain tiles are close to being infested, or half infested, etc, could make perfect sense to anyone actually thinking about the game and at least trying to figure out some tactics from what is mostly an unknown model, at least for now.

Fener, on 07 July 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:

Blend, on 13 June 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:

If the Great Fury under Kalare is activated, all players on the Kalare tile excluding the player who activated it, will die.


If the Great Furies are not activated before the Vord Queen can infest the tile on which they are located, the Vord will receive a bonus for infesting a tile with a Great Fury on it

The bad things that happen, happen only to a small number of people though. Potentially only to the Vord stood on the tile infesting in given that Kalare doesn't kill the activator. The potential bonuses the Vord get could be game changing and bring them well back into contention. All in all I'm glad they went for Antillus over Kalare but can't help wondering why.

I would guess that since one of the two blue paths connect the 2 closest starting points for the Vord(Shuar and Narash) to Elinarch, that the blue paths are possibly only usable by the Vord, although I haven't tried using either one, so it's just a theory. Therefore, they chose to goto Antillus instead of Kalare so they could move over to Phyrgia, which seems like a better line of attack if you ask me. From Kalare they can only hit Ceres next, whereas from Phyrgia they can hit either Alera Imperia or Riva. It would also open up more paths for them, so we have to guess at their next tile, whereas if they were to infest Elinarch then straight to Kalare, then Ceres would become a possible bottleneck and obvious tile to defend against or attack them.

My guess is that they try to get Phyrgia with the most effort, then keep us guessing as to their next line - Alera Imperia, Riva, or back up over to try for Kalare once they think we think they're focused at Phyrgia.

And back to Alkend-Mockra. Here Monok appears confused by his own timeline. He says that 'once Alkend came back Vord' he posted his theory about Mockra and Alkend. But that isn't true. He did that while we were still discussing a Trake lynch on day 2, and then reposted it again the following day (I think after Ultama spotted the Mockra slip).

Monok Ochem, on 08 July 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

Ultama, on 08 July 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 08 July 2013 - 08:31 PM, said:

Liosan, on 08 July 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 08 July 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

That was possibly one of the most interesting catch-ups I've had in Mafia.

and?

Good question. That's quite a bit to take in all at once. I need to think for a few.

Would another vote on you help with clarity of thought? />/>

No, seeing as the first vote by Pran Chole is what seems to be this post by me:

Monok Ochem, on 03 July 2013 - 10:35 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 03 July 2013 - 06:20 AM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 28 June 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Alkend, on 26 June 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

Korbas, on 26 June 2013 - 08:29 AM, said:

Alkend, on 26 June 2013 - 07:43 AM, said:

Lots and lots of talk about the Vord. I guess that means we're going on a bug hunt (are they bugs? That's what I'm imagining in my head).

Any reason we wouldn't go after the Vord? Their goal is to eliminate us all, everyone has a Vord elimination VC. Makes sense no?

When you put it like that, yeah. But for most the VC is to eliminate the Vord Queen and fuck (not literally) the rest of the Vord. One individual between twenty-something players might take a while to track down. I'm certainly not expecting the factions to remain the bestest of friends if it does end up a long chase.
It might be tough to not have this game go the way such books always go (and I bet in the Alera series too). Loads of squabbling and fighting between various armies/petty nations etc, whilst a bigger threat grows ever stronger in the background.
Very fun-looking setup this!

Mockra, on 25 June 2013 - 12:25 AM, said:

Hi all! Looks to be a fun/confusing one this!

Is this expression common elsewhere? It's not here, so if so, this is nothing, plus I don't have my notes, and can't remember the other really petty things I found. I'm not advocating their lynch really, just tossing anything at all I have put there.

I remember thinking Alkend and Mockra were the same person, and we now know Alkend was Vord, and Mockra tried to jump on the last lynch train after it was too late. It may be nothing, but I'd look at Mockra more closely.

By the way, I'm the one who started the case against Mockra. I also posted this same exact post WAY earlier saying Alkend and Mockra appeared to be the same person, thus good choices for one player controlling both alts. Keep this is mind.

I thought Alkend and Mockra sounded alike just from these two posts, and put it on my notes. Later, once Alkend came back Vord, I made the post comparing these two posts by Alkend and Mockra, claiming they may be the same player. This was the day we lynched Mockra. Very soon after I made the post comparing them, the Mockra train started, and ended before I even got back home. The next day someone mentioned my name in connection to not being on Mockra's train, and that's why I made the above post saying 'keep that in mind.'

It wasn't anything to do with what Pran Chole seemed to be claiming.

So no, a second vote won't help any of us. I definitely wouldn't have started trying to link Alkend and Mockra from so early on if I was Vord. At least I find this just as good, and better than many of the other reasons we've crossed people off the possible Vord list.

So far I could do an OMGUS vote on Pran Chole, possibly. There's a few people I wouldn't vote for, but none of them are being considered so far, and I don't feel the need to be as forthcoming with information as the rest of you just yet. I also saw where a couple people mentioned what they think of me already, and that was plenty enough. No one wants to spell it out and give up all they know.

Monok sure is an interesting one. Whether you believe the Alkend-Mockra spot is the crux, really. It should be noted that on its own, Monok's spot may have been far more unlikely to damn Mockra to a lynch. It was only after Ultama spotted the slip-up by Mockra in response to Nimander that Monok's post gained additional weight. Thus, Monok's post could be viewed as providing an 'out' should Mockra and/or Alkend - at some point - be lynched or killed. It wasn't the thing that pushed Mockra over the edge, that was Ultama's discovery.

Monok likes to speculate and provide options on scenarios, but he's also quite non-committal with it. Doesn't really push anything (aside from making sure that we knew about his find - he reposted his own post twice). If only this were a town/scum game...I'm on the fence currently with how I feel about Monok. It could simply have been a nice find, that is certainly not against the realms of possibility.

[Ryllandaras]

Ultama, on 08 July 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 08 July 2013 - 10:52 PM, said:

This post is a bit interesting. Suggests that we do not need to try and kill Tiam and Rashan on a daily basis. This strikes me as a pretty dangerous thought.

A dangerous thought at the time it was said or dangerous thought still?

In my opinion, a dangerous thought still. Tiam and Rashan should be put down every night. I believe there's a reason Tiam played for time in the first place, not just to fuck with us. I've stated that before.

[Ultama]

Ryllandaras said:

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This post is a bit interesting. Suggests that we do not need to try and kill Tiam and Rashan on a daily basis. This strikes me as a pretty dangerous thought.

A dangerous thought at the time it was said or dangerous thought still?

In my opinion, a dangerous thought still. Tiam and Rashan should be put down every night. I believe there's a reason Tiam played for time in the first place, not just to fuck with us. I've stated that before.

Well the bad thought I had during the course of the Mockra lynch was something along those lines. So that brings me to a question: if you think they are that dangerous why did they both make it through the night?

[Ryllandaras]

Liosan. This was a bit more challenging to wade through. Anyway.


Lio's only comment on Tiam, and it's a negative one. However, he says he 'still thinks' it's BS - but he'd never really commented on it previously. In his mind only perhaps?

Liosan, on 28 June 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

Got nets, read up. Still think Alera thing's BS--even if true, demanding "faith" in a mafia game--gimme a fuckin break.

I see we're voting Trake because we've got shit all else. Fine. I want to see a goddamn CF in thins game.

vote Trake

ok, gotta get back to work.

I thought this was interesting to point out. Nimander did not like Lio's interaction with Tiam and Rashan, and felt it was forced. Seems like Lio was Nimander's prime suspect for the Queen.

Liosan, on 03 July 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 03 July 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

Liosan, on 03 July 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 03 July 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

Liosan, on 03 July 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

ugh, this will be painful.

Can we spend the entire day figuring out who the queen is to shut these two mofos up?

Seems like a fake/forced reaction to the musical duo, IMO... of the group that match the vord alts' posting times Lio is now my top suspect for another vord.

go fuck yourself with a shovel. I'm at work and can only post sporadically and in short bursts.

See, when I'm at work and busy, the few posts I manage to make I put actual content into. I don't waste time at work posting stupid pithy replies to vord alts. So that just sounds like a lame made-up excuse now...

good for you. Not everyone plays the same way. frankly, I couldn't care less what you happen to think.

Lio pours suspicion on Nimander's intentions, votes for Mockra, but makes it plain that he would prefer to vote for Korbas. Indeed, Lio more than anyone really (except maybe Fener) had a boner for Korbas.

Liosan, on 03 July 2013 - 03:28 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 03 July 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

Liosan, on 03 July 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 03 July 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

Liosan, on 03 July 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 03 July 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

Liosan, on 03 July 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

ugh, this will be painful.

Can we spend the entire day figuring out who the queen is to shut these two mofos up?

Seems like a fake/forced reaction to the musical duo, IMO... of the group that match the vord alts' posting times Lio is now my top suspect for another vord.

go fuck yourself with a shovel. I'm at work and can only post sporadically and in short bursts.

See, when I'm at work and busy, the few posts I manage to make I put actual content into. I don't waste time at work posting stupid pithy replies to vord alts. So that just sounds like a lame made-up excuse now...

good for you. Not everyone plays the same way. frankly, I couldn't care less what you happen to think.

Well you don't seem to play much at all, really.



<< Waaaah I'm so busy at work let me suggest to everyone else that they "spend the whole day figuring out who the queen is" because that is not an asinine suggestion and I are so helpful >>


Vote Liosan

I could easily say same thing about you, seeing how you've been soooo convinced Tiam's a vord from Day2... over-distancing much?

However, i'd rather get a lynch in.

remove vote

vote Mockra

I'm willing to switch to Korbas again. I'm kind of around, but quite sporadically, cuz my tasks require me to move around 3 diff. locations in the office, and only one of them is a computer.

[Ryllandaras]

Lio is quite quick to side with those believing Mockra's explanation. Throws Nimander's name out there again.

Liosan, on 03 July 2013 - 05:09 PM, said:

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

Mockra, on 03 July 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

I haven't managed to get through all the posts since I was last on, but I'll just say that skimming through this stuck out to me. This post came right after Rashan and Tiam left. If he hasn't caught up on the posts yet, how does he know that Tiam and Rashan will form the majority of them?

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

What's the current vote count? Just got online and have 90 or so posts to catch up on. And I doubt Tiamatha/Rashan is going to make it easy reading.

Vote Ultama


Anyway, that's it from me. See you guys, or, more likely, not.

Because I logged in and my browser was on page 55. I scrolled to the bottom. Rinse repeat until I hit the last post. Posted the above and went back to actually read what I had scrolled through


Gah. The problem is I believe Mockra. I was expecting a "that's not what I meant" which is easily disproved by the last sentence. But "that's what I thought he said and if that's the reason for voting Tiam, it's weak."





Remove Vote

If we believe Mockra, this leaves us with... what? Korbas?

NG has been constantly going against the grain of the thread. I'm not sure that's enough to make him sufficiently suspicious to warrant a lynch just yet in my eyes though.

Accuses Emur over a vote for Mockra.

Liosan, on 03 July 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 03 July 2013 - 06:17 PM, said:

And caught up. That was quite a read.

A vote for Tiamatha is about as pointless as I can imagine. Ultima is just a little bit too loud today in his VOTE HIM NO WAIT HIM NO HIM NO HIM.

I don't know Mockra, but hey, he's as good as anybody.

Vote Mockra

you know, stuff like this isn't making you look any better

Claims to having a Wind fury which also tells him how many Vord there are on a tile.

Liosan, on 06 July 2013 - 08:11 PM, said:

Trake, on 06 July 2013 - 07:45 PM, said:

Liosan, on 06 July 2013 - 07:38 PM, said:

Antillusinfestation went up by 2 overnight. at the start of Day 4 there were no vord there. Mayhaps the Queen is focusing her attention there?

Two vord moving to the same tile in the same night and both increasing the infestation counter.

except there's only 1 vord on Antillus. Or so my Wind Fury tells me.

Now here's what I find interesting about this last post. Emurlahn said he's on Antillus. Emur says he was attacked last night, on Antillus. Liosan knows, apparently, that there's a Vord on Antillus...Could Liosan actually be that Vord, and is masking it as a supposed ability to reveal how many Vord are on a tile?

That, combined with Nimander's suspicions of Liosan, and his apparent deflections from a Mockra lynch, may have just jumped Liosan up to top suspect.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Of course he played for time, as vord want ton infect things time is on their side. That doesnt necessarily mean it helps tiams alt specifically. It could, but not necessarily.

Im not convinced by your monok case simply because of how you presented it... Too much repitition. You basically make the same point again and again in different words, as if to try and make it stick. I get that you are trying to be helpful, but you could yourself be vord putting on a good show.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Damn slowass phone. My post was in reply to rhylls :32 post.