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#1641 User is offline   Ultama 

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:06 PM

Somebody recently asked about those good tile analyses that Emur had been doing. I can't find the comment. Any help with please.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:11 PM

If I am the lynch choice today it won't be because you think I am anything to do with the vord. The main protagonists so far are probably in the same faction and some sympathisers will be of the vord faction. I don't know how else to prove my allegiance. The only reason I mention Octavian so much is because my abilities coincide with his. I've been open and honest because I've had little to lose by getting the information out there. Do what you will, I haven't the time it energy to make a proper case

#1643 User is offline   Ultama 

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:11 PM

View PostUltama, on 07 July 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:

Somebody recently asked about those good tile analyses that Emur had been doing. I can't find the comment. Any help with please.


View PostKorbas, on 02 July 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

Has someone done an update on current map and counter with analysis? I like Emurlahn doing it yesterday, has anyone got time to do it now?




Bingo. And I am so surprised to see that it was Korbas. Shocked even.

I'll leave it to others to decide for themselves if the fact that Korbas and Emurlahn have been trying to pin down who is where is indicative of anything.

#1644 User is offline   Emurlahn 

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:12 PM

View PostUltama, on 07 July 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 07 July 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Also, Fener has admitted to attacking Alkend--which is good--but if Fener's claim days ago of "I'm a fire fury" is true, he can attack from anywhere on the map. Why on earth would we want to keep someone around who has a free attack?


Now that is an interesting question. I've not read the books but I've read most of the wiki. Besides boring me to tears with the sheer quantity of tropes per page. It did inform me of a central fact. The entire premise of the stories is that the protagonist Tavi is the only Aleran who cannot furycraft. At all. At some point his skills are unlocked and he becomes super badass or something.

Korbas is claiming that he has abilities that are locked but has admitted via accusation that he is not Tavi. Blend has used the locked powers thing before, so it is possible that Korbas is telling the truth. But pretty fucking unlikely. As others have pointed out he's been doing his damnedest to out Tavi.

Now we have Emurlahn. Emur, did you catch the part above about Tavi being the only Aleran who can't furycraft? Since this game is set up with 3 factions of Alerans and one of non-Alerans your questioning of Fener's fire crafting and ignorance of earth crafting (post 505) leads me to believe that you're not Aleran. If you're not one of the Alerans then...


Zzzz, you're trying way too hard, Ult. I know what I can do and am only casually familiar with what other people can do. There are quite a few powers =o

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:15 PM

View PostUltama, on 07 July 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 07 July 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:

Somebody recently asked about those good tile analyses that Emur had been doing. I can't find the comment. Any help with please.


View PostKorbas, on 02 July 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

Has someone done an update on current map and counter with analysis? I like Emurlahn doing it yesterday, has anyone got time to do it now?




Bingo. And I am so surprised to see that it was Korbas. Shocked even.

I'll leave it to others to decide for themselves if the fact that Korbas and Emurlahn have been trying to pin down who is where is indicative of anything.


Because it's useful. Duh. Fener made some big claims about where he was going on Day 1. I think having all of the public info about where people are would have been useful in that respect.

#1646 User is offline   Pran Chole 

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:28 PM

View PostUltama, on 07 July 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

View PostPran Chole, on 07 July 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 07 July 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 04 July 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 04 July 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 04 July 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

As for other speculation, normally I'd poo-poo the idea that we are getting false CFs, but given that there appears to be differences in what PS is reporting for tiles and what people like Ultama have claimed their NA's revealed about their location, I raise it as being a higher possibility.


I'm not convinced there is an inconsistency here. As someone already pointed out, the earthcrafter ability to detect who is on their tile does not detect windcrafters. Was there anything raised about this that the earth-wind possibility couldn't explain?


The wind fury passive cancels out the earth fury passive. Makes sense once pointed out. doh.

So what could explain getting an out of range response for

View PostBlend, on 13 June 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

Fire Furies

Active Action: You may target another player. That player will take attack power + X damage, no matter which tile they are on.






View PostBlend, on 13 June 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

Order of resolution is as follows:

Special Movement Abilities > Find > Guard > Attack > Recruit > Fortifications > Infestation > Heal

Certain abilities will resolve outside this specific order of resolution, but this is a safe guideline for nearly all abilities available in this game.





The only explanations that I can think of for somebody being out of range from an attack that hits every tile are
  • They're not on any of the tiles.
  • They are on tiles that are only connected via blue lines. Shuar or Narash
  • They have a "certain abilities" ability.


Seeing as how I missed the earth and wind cancellation, am I missing another obvious explanation?




This is why I prefer a Korbas lynch. I attacked him and got a strange result.


Are you allowed/willing to elaborate on that strange result?


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#1647 User is offline   Ultama 

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:30 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 07 July 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 07 July 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 07 July 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Also, Fener has admitted to attacking Alkend--which is good--but if Fener's claim days ago of "I'm a fire fury" is true, he can attack from anywhere on the map. Why on earth would we want to keep someone around who has a free attack?


Now that is an interesting question. I've not read the books but I've read most of the wiki. Besides boring me to tears with the sheer quantity of tropes per page. It did inform me of a central fact. The entire premise of the stories is that the protagonist Tavi is the only Aleran who cannot furycraft. At all. At some point his skills are unlocked and he becomes super badass or something.

Korbas is claiming that he has abilities that are locked but has admitted via accusation that he is not Tavi. Blend has used the locked powers thing before, so it is possible that Korbas is telling the truth. But pretty fucking unlikely. As others have pointed out he's been doing his damnedest to out Tavi.

Now we have Emurlahn. Emur, did you catch the part above about Tavi being the only Aleran who can't furycraft? Since this game is set up with 3 factions of Alerans and one of non-Alerans your questioning of Fener's fire crafting and ignorance of earth crafting (post 505) leads me to believe that you're not Aleran. If you're not one of the Alerans then...


Zzzz, you're trying way too hard, Ult. I know what I can do and am only casually familiar with what other people can do. There are quite a few powers =o


Too lazy to read the OP? And really? You're not even remotely interested in what can be done to you? And of course I'm trying hard. I like winning.

#1648 User is offline   Ultama 

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:35 PM

View PostPran Chole, on 07 July 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 07 July 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

View PostPran Chole, on 07 July 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 07 July 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 04 July 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 04 July 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 04 July 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

As for other speculation, normally I'd poo-poo the idea that we are getting false CFs, but given that there appears to be differences in what PS is reporting for tiles and what people like Ultama have claimed their NA's revealed about their location, I raise it as being a higher possibility.


I'm not convinced there is an inconsistency here. As someone already pointed out, the earthcrafter ability to detect who is on their tile does not detect windcrafters. Was there anything raised about this that the earth-wind possibility couldn't explain?


The wind fury passive cancels out the earth fury passive. Makes sense once pointed out. doh.

So what could explain getting an out of range response for

View PostBlend, on 13 June 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

Fire Furies

Active Action: You may target another player. That player will take attack power + X damage, no matter which tile they are on.






View PostBlend, on 13 June 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

Order of resolution is as follows:

Special Movement Abilities > Find > Guard > Attack > Recruit > Fortifications > Infestation > Heal

Certain abilities will resolve outside this specific order of resolution, but this is a safe guideline for nearly all abilities available in this game.





The only explanations that I can think of for somebody being out of range from an attack that hits every tile are
  • They're not on any of the tiles.
  • They are on tiles that are only connected via blue lines. Shuar or Narash
  • They have a "certain abilities" ability.


Seeing as how I missed the earth and wind cancellation, am I missing another obvious explanation?




This is why I prefer a Korbas lynch. I attacked him and got a strange result.


Are you allowed/willing to elaborate on that strange result?


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I targeted Korbas with the Active Fire Fury. My response from PS indicated that my target was out of range.

Since the ability says "no matter which tile they are on" I call that a strange result.

#1649 User is offline   Pran Chole 

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:49 PM

View PostUltama, on 07 July 2013 - 09:35 PM, said:

View PostPran Chole, on 07 July 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 07 July 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

View PostPran Chole, on 07 July 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 07 July 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 04 July 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 04 July 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 04 July 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

As for other speculation, normally I'd poo-poo the idea that we are getting false CFs, but given that there appears to be differences in what PS is reporting for tiles and what people like Ultama have claimed their NA's revealed about their location, I raise it as being a higher possibility.


I'm not convinced there is an inconsistency here. As someone already pointed out, the earthcrafter ability to detect who is on their tile does not detect windcrafters. Was there anything raised about this that the earth-wind possibility couldn't explain?


The wind fury passive cancels out the earth fury passive. Makes sense once pointed out. doh.

So what could explain getting an out of range response for

View PostBlend, on 13 June 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

Fire Furies

Active Action: You may target another player. That player will take attack power + X damage, no matter which tile they are on.






View PostBlend, on 13 June 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

Order of resolution is as follows:

Special Movement Abilities > Find > Guard > Attack > Recruit > Fortifications > Infestation > Heal

Certain abilities will resolve outside this specific order of resolution, but this is a safe guideline for nearly all abilities available in this game.





The only explanations that I can think of for somebody being out of range from an attack that hits every tile are
  • They're not on any of the tiles.
  • They are on tiles that are only connected via blue lines. Shuar or Narash
  • They have a "certain abilities" ability.


Seeing as how I missed the earth and wind cancellation, am I missing another obvious explanation?




This is why I prefer a Korbas lynch. I attacked him and got a strange result.


Are you allowed/willing to elaborate on that strange result?


Red highlights


I cannot brain today. I has the dumb.


I targeted Korbas with the Active Fire Fury. My response from PS indicated that my target was out of range.

Since the ability says "no matter which tile they are on" I call that a strange result.


Agreed, that is really odd.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:01 AM

They do provide some limited entertainment, do they not Rashy?

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:02 AM

Mild sources of amusement, yes.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:03 AM

Any favorite parts for you?

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:04 AM

Now you mention it, there is one particular highlight of amusement.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:04 AM

Please share! Oh please oh please! Cherries on top!

#1655 User is offline   Rashan 

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:06 AM

Of course, Tiammy, of course.


View PostFener, on 07 July 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

The FA need them all dead too but have no motive beyond that, once they have their VCs they don't need to care about Loyalist/Rebels, they've won, it just remains to be seen which non-Vord faction they win with.


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:07 AM

That is fairly priceless, Rashy! Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:08 AM

My own guffaw was hearty indeed. As if the First Aleran have not chosen their side already.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:09 AM

Oh you must be kinder to them, Rashy! Clearly they find it hard to keep track of things!

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:10 AM

Oh? Was it not you yourself who claimed I was being too forgiving on them?

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:11 AM

It seems you have rubbed off on me, Rashy. I do find you exquisite company.

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