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#1681 User is offline   Okaros 

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 11:28 AM

PS, When does timer unfreeze?

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 11:54 AM

View PostOkaros, on 08 July 2013 - 11:28 AM, said:

PS, When does timer unfreeze?


When it does and not a minute before.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:21 PM

View PostVengeance, on 08 July 2013 - 11:54 AM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 08 July 2013 - 11:28 AM, said:

PS, When does timer unfreeze?


When it does and not a minute before.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:23 PM

I am not sold on a Korbas lynch. I dislike his style of play - he says that it doesn't hurt him to reveal the info that he does, but I doubt any role is designed with the intention of it just being spilled on thread, and even if it doesn't hurt him supposedly, it does hurt his faction, and maybe every non-Vord faction, in the long run. In his defence, the most recent reveals have actually come as a result of some pressure, rather than just because he thought it would be a good idea to identify possible Tavis on thread.

However, I tend to mostly believe what he's said, and so I don't think he's Vord. The calming the furthest-away Fury business is just a plain strange tactic, though, and I have the suspicion that, if he is over there, then the real reason is that he doesn't want to head over near to the Vord, and have a higher chance of being recruited/killed.

But. The more I think about the 'target was out of range' which Ultama says he got from trying to attack Korbas with a fire fury is, the stranger it is, and particularly Korbas' response to that. I don't think that it can be explained away in the way Korbas has (by saying that maybe Ultama was guarded etc.) because the target would still be in range in that case, it's just that the ability would not be successful. And their first reason, that any modified attacks on them are negated, with the, 'oh, I just read my role PM and found this...' sounds made-up to me, especially because Korbas then threw out a couple of other possible reasons for why it may have happened.

Is anyone else who has already admitted to having access to fire furies willing to state whether they've ever encountered a similar 'out of range' response on one of their own targets?

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:31 PM

View PostRyllandaras, on 08 July 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

Is anyone else who has already admitted to having access to fire furies willing to state whether they've ever encountered a similar 'out of range' response on one of their own targets?


As I've made it clear numerous times I have Fire Furies. I have yet to receive such a message. I have however been informed some days ago my burn croach ability will not work across the blue lines, hence my suggestion that a Fire attack may be similarly limited. Also explains why there wasn't a demonstration of burning at Dawn2/Day 3 as there wasn't any in range. If anyone is desperate I'll demonstrate it in the next Dawn - now at least I have a variety of places to do it from I feel a lot more confident in stating a time, knowing it won't pin me down for a potential recruit.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:33 PM

I'm not sold on Korbas not being Vord, simply because his actions make no sense as a non-Vord. And if he is a non-Vord, than he's an idiot and a liability to any faction he's in/may find himself in (if rebels can recruit, as some have speculated).

He's played strange, his explanations were dodgy and now he's saying that if we keep voting for him he'll take his toys and go home. I say good riddance.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:37 PM

another day, another dollar, let's see if I can get a friggin' clue today

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:38 PM

View PostRyllandaras, on 08 July 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

I am not sold on a Korbas lynch. I dislike his style of play - he says that it doesn't hurt him to reveal the info that he does, but I doubt any role is designed with the intention of it just being spilled on thread, and even if it doesn't hurt him supposedly, it does hurt his faction, and maybe every non-Vord faction, in the long run. In his defence, the most recent reveals have actually come as a result of some pressure, rather than just because he thought it would be a good idea to identify possible Tavis on thread.

However, I tend to mostly believe what he's said, and so I don't think he's Vord. The calming the furthest-away Fury business is just a plain strange tactic, though, and I have the suspicion that, if he is over there, then the real reason is that he doesn't want to head over near to the Vord, and have a higher chance of being recruited/killed.

But. The more I think about the 'target was out of range' which Ultama says he got from trying to attack Korbas with a fire fury is, the stranger it is, and particularly Korbas' response to that. I don't think that it can be explained away in the way Korbas has (by saying that maybe Ultama was guarded etc.) because the target would still be in range in that case, it's just that the ability would not be successful. And their first reason, that any modified attacks on them are negated, with the, 'oh, I just read my role PM and found this...' sounds made-up to me, especially because Korbas then threw out a couple of other possible reasons for why it may have happened.

Is anyone else who has already admitted to having access to fire furies willing to state whether they've ever encountered a similar 'out of range' response on one of their own targets?


I do have a passive ability that negates modifiers, in his case it would be the range thing, I am sure that if I was on the same tile that the action would have went through. The ability title is called circumvent furycrafting and it is a passive ability.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:39 PM

View PostLiosan, on 08 July 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

I'm not sold on Korbas not being Vord, simply because his actions make no sense as a non-Vord. And if he is a non-Vord, than he's an idiot and a liability to any faction he's in/may find himself in (if rebels can recruit, as some have speculated).

He's played strange, his explanations were dodgy and now he's saying that if we keep voting for him he'll take his toys and go home. I say good riddance.


At least I've played, you cannot fucking moan you're in work all the time and then say someone else has played this way or that. Look at your contribution to the game so far and then come back and say you are "playing"

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:48 PM

Fener claims he only has access to Fire and Earth furies. My memory is not what it should be, so I ask people with better book knowledge than me. Which major character in the series has access to those furies ONLY? I think none. so either Fener is lying or he has more furies than that. meaning powerhouse.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:50 PM

Emurlahn said:

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So Korbas attacked Ult with a "regular attack" and Ult attacked Korbas with a "fire attack." Aren't you two a couple of cutie pies?

The main reason I haven't yet voted for Korbas is that I recently received information about Fener from a secret message. I don't completely trust random messages with no source, and have no idea who sent it or why, but I was informed that Fener is not a member of the First Aleran and thus he almost certainly cannot remove infestation. It puts me at odds with his earlier reveal that he could do just that.

I have no particular reason to believe he's lying... but I feel the same way about Korbas. I believe both of them, but I'm sure they are speaking in half-truths. The thing about Korbas is that he just speaks freely about everything. Fener has been a lot less forthcoming since his near lynch.


Did the note say that "almost certainly cannot" or is that a conclusion you came to on your own?

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:52 PM

Liosan

View PostLiosan, on 27 June 2013 - 04:04 AM, said:

So, no one died? lame, no CFs to work with.

Anyhow, bedtime.


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View PostNimander Golit, on 27 June 2013 - 02:53 AM, said:

Now here is something that I find very suspicious


View PostGalain, on 26 June 2013 - 10:27 PM, said:

explain the blue roads, Mr. Book Knowledge Fener



It's already been established in the thread that the Vord are on the left side of the map, as if the infestation counter(s) didn't confirm that. Why would you ask for an explanation of the blue paths when that might help explain to the Vord how to get across it sooner? Don't try and tell me you want to know so you can go charge head first towards the Vord by yourself Posted Image/>

Sounds like Vord to me.


You mean we're NOT supposed to do that? Posted Image


View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2013 - 11:14 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 26 June 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

By which I do not mean another alt, I hasten to add.



huh? did you just say you have multiple alts? Posted Image


View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2013 - 08:55 PM, said:

Ultama, you gotta bold it


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View PostGait, on 26 June 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

Also, I don't understand why I would fake-symp Fener.


why indeed... unless you're actually symping him?


View PostLiosan, on 26 June 2013 - 10:49 PM, said:

nope, should be 1 h left by my timestamps


View PostLiosan, on 06 July 2013 - 07:38 PM, said:

Antillusinfestation went up by 2 overnight. at the start of Day 4 there were no vord there. Mayhaps the Queen is focusing her attention there?




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View PostTrake, on 06 July 2013 - 07:45 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 06 July 2013 - 07:38 PM, said:

Antillusinfestation went up by 2 overnight. at the start of Day 4 there were no vord there. Mayhaps the Queen is focusing her attention there?



Two vord moving to the same tile in the same night and both increasing the infestation counter.



except there's only 1 vord on Antillus. Or so my Wind Fury tells me.



View PostLiosan, on 06 July 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:


CLosest one we have is 11/30. We'll be waiting for a while then.


View PostLiosan, on 06 July 2013 - 10:28 PM, said:


it's one of the many useless things Korbas has been doing. Any other Earth crafter with any sense should be around Elinarch, since that's the only place for Vord to go after Nashuar.


I cannot craft earth yet by the way so the fuck are you smoking?

See I could continue but you are fucking useless.


I give all first aleran the +1 fortification, when I am gone that WILL be removed and I don't know what would happen to fortifications then. Reading my role PM maybe I should be playing a hiding game as I have so many abilities but I would rather talk on thread sue me.

I am Kitai. If you think i've played shit then that is up to you, but I don't think it'd be good if you lynch me. As it is in my VC's to go after Vord that is what I want to do, I have no interest in siding with one faction over another. Only the Vord should be threatened by me and happy to vote me.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:54 PM

View PostKorbas, on 08 July 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:


I cannot craft earth yet by the way so the fuck are you smoking?

See I could continue but you are fucking useless.


I give all first aleran the +1 fortification, when I am gone that WILL be removed and I don't know what would happen to fortifications then. Reading my role PM maybe I should be playing a hiding game as I have so many abilities but I would rather talk on thread sue me.

I am Kitai. If you think i've played shit then that is up to you, but I don't think it'd be good if you lynch me. As it is in my VC's to go after Vord that is what I want to do, I have no interest in siding with one faction over another. Only the Vord should be threatened by me and happy to vote me.
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I'm entitled to believe her. Kitai did circumvent furycrafting more than a couple of times and she was Tavi's lover. go figure.


Edit: cleared up quote.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:07 PM

View PostKorbas, on 08 July 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 06 July 2013 - 10:28 PM, said:

it's one of the many useless things Korbas has been doing. Any other Earth crafter with any sense should be around Elinarch, since that's the only place for Vord to go after Nashuar.


I cannot craft earth yet by the way so the fuck are you smoking?

See I could continue but you are fucking useless.


I give all first aleran the +1 fortification, when I am gone that WILL be removed and I don't know what would happen to fortifications then. Reading my role PM maybe I should be playing a hiding game as I have so many abilities but I would rather talk on thread sue me.

I am Kitai. If you think i've played shit then that is up to you, but I don't think it'd be good if you lynch me. As it is in my VC's to go after Vord that is what I want to do, I have no interest in siding with one faction over another. Only the Vord should be threatened by me and happy to vote me.
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The Yet is interesting. It implies to me that not only Korbas is "locked" in his abilities until a certain number of tiles are infested but that Tavi is too, potentially other members of the First too. So the Vord tactic would therefore be to get all tiles close to but not quite fully infested and deliver a quick coup-de-grace to multiple tiles at once when they're ready for it. Since the Vord have been almost perfectly taken down potentially the First have had most of their punches pulled - must be becoming a very frustrating game for them.

Regarding the +1, they'll lose the +1 which'll make them a lot less obvious in their locations - potentially unfindable too since I know for a fact at least one of them has a Wind Fury. This could only be a good thing for their offensive NAs, although potentially bad for heals etc.

Kitai is indeed who I had you down as for a few days now and sounds genuine, but the way you've played it has rubbed a lot of people up.

The only thing I have to ask you is:

Why do you think I'm the Vord Queen? My Day 1 almost-lynch was almost a complete reveal* that was slightly anti-Vord aspected. Too perfect? Potentially. But true. Coupled with some book knowledge that seems to be damning me in your eyes. You're also convinced I'm a powerhouse - why is this such a bad thing? That's only relevant for the faction I'm *not* in to worry about if it is true.


*Because the last bit was what I deleted when I thought I was lynched. There were at least 6 others on thread at the time though so no doubt some out there saw it.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:09 PM

View PostGait, on 08 July 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

Fener claims he only has access to Fire and Earth furies. My memory is not what it should be, so I ask people with better book knowledge than me. Which major character in the series has access to those furies ONLY? I think none. so either Fener is lying or he has more furies than that. meaning powerhouse.




Looking through the wiki, only some nasty dude called Kord seems to fit that description.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:15 PM

View PostRyllandaras, on 08 July 2013 - 01:09 PM, said:

View PostGait, on 08 July 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

Fener claims he only has access to Fire and Earth furies. My memory is not what it should be, so I ask people with better book knowledge than me. Which major character in the series has access to those furies ONLY? I think none. so either Fener is lying or he has more furies than that. meaning powerhouse.




Looking through the wiki, only some nasty dude called Kord seems to fit that description.


Kord is in the Minor Characters section though you'll have noticed.

As is Lady Aria Placida who also has access to both described in Wikipedia.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:16 PM

It is now Day 5. 32 hours remaining.

Players alive: Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tiamatha, Trake, Ultama

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes for night.

1 vote Fener (Korbas)
4 votes Korbas (Pran Chole, Liosan, Ultama, Trake)

Players not voted: Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tiamatha

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Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:16 PM

View PostFener, on 08 July 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

View PostRyllandaras, on 08 July 2013 - 01:09 PM, said:

View PostGait, on 08 July 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

Fener claims he only has access to Fire and Earth furies. My memory is not what it should be, so I ask people with better book knowledge than me. Which major character in the series has access to those furies ONLY? I think none. so either Fener is lying or he has more furies than that. meaning powerhouse.




Looking through the wiki, only some nasty dude called Kord seems to fit that description.


Kord is in the Minor Characters section though you'll have noticed.

As is Lady Aria Placida who also has access to both described in Wikipedia.



Yeah, but she has others too not just earth and fury. But yes, Kord is under minor characters.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:17 PM

View PostFener, on 08 July 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

View PostRyllandaras, on 08 July 2013 - 01:09 PM, said:

View PostGait, on 08 July 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

Fener claims he only has access to Fire and Earth furies. My memory is not what it should be, so I ask people with better book knowledge than me. Which major character in the series has access to those furies ONLY? I think none. so either Fener is lying or he has more furies than that. meaning powerhouse.




Looking through the wiki, only some nasty dude called Kord seems to fit that description.


Kord is in the Minor Characters section though you'll have noticed.

As is Lady Aria Placida who also has access to both described in Wikipedia.

Lady Placida is a high lady. very powerful and with access to ALL furies. also a loyalist, not a FA. Did you lie?

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:18 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 July 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

It is now Day 5. Timer is frozen with 32 hours remaining.

Timer is frozen over the weekend. You can place votes if you wish, but resolution will only take place on Monday. As of next week, the mod-kill timer will be back in effect.



View PostPath-Shaper, on 08 July 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

It is now Day 5. 32 hours remaining.

Players alive: Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tiamatha, Trake, Ultama

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes for night.


Players not voted: Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tiamatha, Trake, Ultama



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