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Eclipse III - Game Thread The third one!

#6001 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:13 PM

I am thinking the missiles/interceptors because he'd have to either concentrate fire from his missiles on my interceptors or ignore them and hope not many hit.
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:15 PM

D'rek what does the Phase shield do?

ie does it block missiles or cannons or both, or just computers on the ships>?

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:22 PM

Phase shield is just minus 2 applied against whatever advantage your computers provide. If you had +2 positron computer and he had -2 phase shield, they cancel, and you have to roll 6's just as if you never had a computer at all.

So in the above scenario, he has sufficient shields to counter your computers. If initiative is not a consideration (ie he can out-initiative you no matter what), then you're better off swapping your computers out for hulls or firepower. If initiative *is* a consideration, then you might get a better advantage swapping firepower for more computers.

EDIT

And yes, it blocks both missiles and cannons.

The only exception (I think) is the rare technology distortion shields I purchased back in round 4. They confer -2 against missiles for all my ships without needing to place a ship part, but no protection vs. cannons.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:23 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 20 September 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

D'rek what does the Phase shield do?

ie does it block missiles or cannons or both, or just computers on the ships>?


Which one is phase shields? Any of the black [-#] symbols reduces enemy computers (whether the computers are boosting missiles or cannons or space-pie-throwers). The only one that is different is the Distortion Shield rare tech that only affects missiles (and hence the [-2] square has a missile shape around it).

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:25 PM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 20 September 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

Phase shield is just minus 2 applied against whatever advantage your computers provide. If you had +2 positron computer and he had -2 phase shield, they cancel, and you have to roll 6's just as if you never had a computer at all.

So in the above scenario, he has sufficient shields to counter your computers. If initiative is not a consideration (ie he can out-initiative you no matter what), then you're better off swapping your computers out for hulls or firepower. If initiative *is* a consideration, then you might get a better advantage swapping firepower for more computers.


He is going to have initiative no matter what. I am thinking of countering his +3 computer with phase shields over one of my improved hull. As it stands he will need two hits to hit my dread and take it out, if I do the above he will still need two hits but will only hit on a 5 or a 6. Yet I will hit on anything above a 1. Big difference. Even with a shield, I would hit with 4+.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:31 PM

Okay this is my turn 7.

Build 2 interceptors in Aldebran
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:35 PM

Move 1 Interceptor from Arcturus to Pollux.

EDIT: And Move Cruiser from Zeta Draconis to Rho Indi.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:37 PM

I am excited about this last round coming up.
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:41 PM

Hey, you know when you get that sudden feeling that you may have been a tad overambitious in your evil schemes?

I'm having that feeling right now. But like any terrible leader, I will bulldoze stubbornly on with my plans despite the growing outraged calls of the citizen body. I am leader, I know best.
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:49 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 20 September 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

Hey, you know when you get that sudden feeling that you may have been a tad overambitious in your evil schemes?

I'm having that feeling right now. But like any terrible leader, I will bulldoze stubbornly on with my plans despite the growing outraged calls of the citizen body. I am leader, I know best.


Do you still want me to get out of your way from Psi Capricorni?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:53 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 20 September 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

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View PostMorgoth, on 20 September 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

@D'rek - rereading the last few pages, I hope I didn't give the impression that I was taking this personally. I'm not. It's been surprisingly relaxing trying to plot ridiculous schemes, the last which you ruined with that latest build :)


Read up on Twelve and his gloating. If I can free D'rek by taking out your dread then that is a good thing for the game. I cannot win and will not win this game yet I can help someone else try to win, against Twelve who has been gloating all game AND lost his dread against the GCs first time round but got a mulligan


I have a hard time understanding how you want to give the game to the person actively removing you from it. It seems pretty retarded. You have lots of materials, but instead of trying for something you just fold so that you can say you weren't trying anyways. It's a strange approach, though much like what SS did. An approach you were quite disapproving of at the time.

Thankfully I have plenty of reactions left.


I know. He currently is in second place and has the chance to challenge me but is gift wrapping points for D'rek instead. I still think it won't be enough to surpass me but we'll see..
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:01 PM

View PostD, on 20 September 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 20 September 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

Hey, you know when you get that sudden feeling that you may have been a tad overambitious in your evil schemes?

I'm having that feeling right now. But like any terrible leader, I will bulldoze stubbornly on with my plans despite the growing outraged calls of the citizen body. I am leader, I know best.


Do you still want me to get out of your way from Psi Capricorni?



In an ideal world, yes. But I don't think I can do it any longer, so you don't have to. Stupid lack of influence discs.

NOTE THAT I HAVE ADDED TO MY ORIGINAL ORDER FOR THIS MOVE.
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:05 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 20 September 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Move 1 Interceptor from Arcturus to Pollux.

EDIT: And Move Cruiser from Zeta Draconis to Rho Indi.



I like it. I like it a lot.
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:09 PM

View Posttwelve, on 20 September 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 20 September 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Move 1 Interceptor from Arcturus to Pollux.

EDIT: And Move Cruiser from Zeta Draconis to Rho Indi.



I like it. I like it a lot.


That's good for CF!

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:26 PM

You planning on relieving me of Rho Indi too then Khell?
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:29 PM

Actually, if you took both, I would be even more flexible in my moves next turn, to help who have pleased me!
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:32 PM

wait wait..

I was set to react,

move - my dreadnaught back to its previous location
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:41 PM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 20 September 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

You planning on relieving me of Rho Indi too then Khell?



Only Rho Indi, I think. I needed the extra money slot it provides. I'd love to relieve you of all your possessions, but I just don't have the influence discs for it! (And, unfortunately, all of my hexes contain money planets, so I can't even get rid of any).
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:50 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 20 September 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 20 September 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

You planning on relieving me of Rho Indi too then Khell?



Only Rho Indi, I think. I needed the extra money slot it provides. I'd love to relieve you of all your possessions, but I just don't have the influence discs for it! (And, unfortunately, all of my hexes contain money planets, so I can't even get rid of any).


Not exactly according to my master plan (I keep telling myself I *have* a master plan), but that's fine. I will offer no resistance.
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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:51 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 20 September 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

I am excited about this last round coming up.


You are?

Did you ask D'rek for permission to be excited? And solicit comments from Khell and CF on the subject?

*duck*
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