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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:48 PM

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View PostMorgoth, on 16 May 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

And don't worry about struggling with the mechanics. It's all a little overwhelming at first, but you'll get the hang of it before D'rek decides to eat you.


I think Tapper is going to eat him first. D'rek is either going to have a nibble at me, or go for the centre.

You think wrong. Attacking him will mean Twelve will scoop up some of my systems, just like him attacking me will likely force a war of attrition that I probably will win due to cheaper ships. Neither of us has much to gain by war and that makes us good allies. Furthermore, I have everything to win by SS holding his own and buffering my flank, because I think I may be forced to enter an unholy alliance with Twelve to stop D'rek immediately after she takes the centre (especially since you have your tongue so deep up Orion's ass that you can taste D'rek's dinner before it's digested).


What!!! You think you can beat me!? The Great and Powerful ERIDANI!!! You are nothing but a machine, a tool to be used and discarded once your usefulness has passed. Such insolence.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:52 PM

View Posttwelve, on 16 May 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 16 May 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 16 May 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 May 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

And don't worry about struggling with the mechanics. It's all a little overwhelming at first, but you'll get the hang of it before D'rek decides to eat you.


I think Tapper is going to eat him first. D'rek is either going to have a nibble at me, or go for the centre.

You think wrong. Attacking him will mean Twelve will scoop up some of my systems, just like him attacking me will likely force a war of attrition that I probably will win due to cheaper ships. Neither of us has much to gain by war and that makes us good allies. Furthermore, I have everything to win by SS holding his own and buffering my flank, because I think I may be forced to enter an unholy alliance with Twelve to stop D'rek immediately after she takes the centre (especially since you have your tongue so deep up Orion's ass that you can taste D'rek's dinner before it's digested).


What!!! You think you can beat me!? The Great and Powerful ERIDANI!!! You are nothing but a machine, a tool to be used and discarded once your usefulness has passed. Such insolence.


Twelve has been smoking the wrong plant from the wrong planets. Or he has been smoking the right plants but because his empire is old and defeated they have gone off. Either way, no one said they are beating you Twelve.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:54 PM

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View PostImperial Historian, on 16 May 2013 - 07:47 AM, said:

If you'd put down a disc, ss wouldn't have been able to colonise. I agree that colonisation is best held off until just before upkeep.

@twelve I think it is harsh that a colonisation (which took place after everyone else made their moves, if I'm not mistaken) can't be undone by a first time player, its a clear mistake which wouldn't have been made by anyone who fully understood the rules. Its the sort of mistake someone would have spotted and warned a new player about in table play. Later in the game yes it makes sense to strictly stick to the rules, but on the first turn I think a little leeway is called for. Does everyone else not agree?

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I was looking at his player board that showed that he had no colony ships available. I should have realized that he used his last colony ship on his last explore action. I have no issue at all letting him take that last settlement back so he can better afford his upkeep. Either way I think this was a great learning experience for him and possibly Gnaw on the mechanics of upkeep. Just think of this as a lesson in personal finances. What you have in the bank plus what you earn need to be greater than what is due else you have to "sell" stuff off. If you run out of stuff to sell, Game Over.


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My first game that I took over for Mentalist I did the same thing that you did last game. Though if I could have beat IH's shard hull cruiser with my dreadnaught and then the ancient I could have survived another round which I thought I had a decent chance to do. But alas I sufferred the same fate as you. If you know you are snookered might as well go all out to try and snooker the snookeree right?
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:54 PM

View Posttwelve, on 16 May 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 16 May 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 16 May 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 May 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

And don't worry about struggling with the mechanics. It's all a little overwhelming at first, but you'll get the hang of it before D'rek decides to eat you.


I think Tapper is going to eat him first. D'rek is either going to have a nibble at me, or go for the centre.

You think wrong. Attacking him will mean Twelve will scoop up some of my systems, just like him attacking me will likely force a war of attrition that I probably will win due to cheaper ships. Neither of us has much to gain by war and that makes us good allies. Furthermore, I have everything to win by SS holding his own and buffering my flank, because I think I may be forced to enter an unholy alliance with Twelve to stop D'rek immediately after she takes the centre (especially since you have your tongue so deep up Orion's ass that you can taste D'rek's dinner before it's digested).


What!!! You think you can beat me!? The Great and Powerful ERIDANI!!! You are nothing but a machine, a tool to be used and discarded once your usefulness has passed. Such insolence.

Beat you? I never made such a claim. I meant referring back to SS ("him") in my second sentence.
I think you'd probably have a starting advantage if we go to war. But as I extrapolated, the only winner if we war is likely D'rek :p.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:56 PM

We war we war.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:00 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 16 May 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 16 May 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 16 May 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 16 May 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 May 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

And don't worry about struggling with the mechanics. It's all a little overwhelming at first, but you'll get the hang of it before D'rek decides to eat you.


I think Tapper is going to eat him first. D'rek is either going to have a nibble at me, or go for the centre.

You think wrong. Attacking him will mean Twelve will scoop up some of my systems, just like him attacking me will likely force a war of attrition that I probably will win due to cheaper ships. Neither of us has much to gain by war and that makes us good allies. Furthermore, I have everything to win by SS holding his own and buffering my flank, because I think I may be forced to enter an unholy alliance with Twelve to stop D'rek immediately after she takes the centre (especially since you have your tongue so deep up Orion's ass that you can taste D'rek's dinner before it's digested).


What!!! You think you can beat me!? The Great and Powerful ERIDANI!!! You are nothing but a machine, a tool to be used and discarded once your usefulness has passed. Such insolence.


Twelve has been smoking the wrong plant from the wrong planets. Or he has been smoking the right plants but because his empire is old and defeated they have gone off. Either way, no one said they are beating you Twelve.



Ah you Magellan fool. You have been off exploring the cosmos far too long with no one else but the your own kind for company. The machines were somehow able to send a subtle warning my way prediciting my defeat should I move my fleet against them. They assume their advanced processing power and greater efficencies are too much for the Great and Glorious ERIDANI Empire to be able to handle. I am quivering with suppressed rage at the slight.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:03 PM

View PostTapper, on 16 May 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 16 May 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 16 May 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 16 May 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 May 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

And don't worry about struggling with the mechanics. It's all a little overwhelming at first, but you'll get the hang of it before D'rek decides to eat you.


I think Tapper is going to eat him first. D'rek is either going to have a nibble at me, or go for the centre.

You think wrong. Attacking him will mean Twelve will scoop up some of my systems, just like him attacking me will likely force a war of attrition that I probably will win due to cheaper ships. Neither of us has much to gain by war and that makes us good allies. Furthermore, I have everything to win by SS holding his own and buffering my flank, because I think I may be forced to enter an unholy alliance with Twelve to stop D'rek immediately after she takes the centre (especially since you have your tongue so deep up Orion's ass that you can taste D'rek's dinner before it's digested).


What!!! You think you can beat me!? The Great and Powerful ERIDANI!!! You are nothing but a machine, a tool to be used and discarded once your usefulness has passed. Such insolence.

Beat you? I never made such a claim. I meant referring back to SS ("him") in my second sentence.
I think you'd probably have a starting advantage if we go to war. But as I extrapolated, the only winner if we war is likely D'rek :p.


Oh.

We ERIDANI do not apologize for any mistakes we may or may not have made in interpreting your comments. Carry on.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:03 PM

View Posttwelve, on 16 May 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 16 May 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 16 May 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 16 May 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 16 May 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 May 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

And don't worry about struggling with the mechanics. It's all a little overwhelming at first, but you'll get the hang of it before D'rek decides to eat you.


I think Tapper is going to eat him first. D'rek is either going to have a nibble at me, or go for the centre.

You think wrong. Attacking him will mean Twelve will scoop up some of my systems, just like him attacking me will likely force a war of attrition that I probably will win due to cheaper ships. Neither of us has much to gain by war and that makes us good allies. Furthermore, I have everything to win by SS holding his own and buffering my flank, because I think I may be forced to enter an unholy alliance with Twelve to stop D'rek immediately after she takes the centre (especially since you have your tongue so deep up Orion's ass that you can taste D'rek's dinner before it's digested).


What!!! You think you can beat me!? The Great and Powerful ERIDANI!!! You are nothing but a machine, a tool to be used and discarded once your usefulness has passed. Such insolence.


Twelve has been smoking the wrong plant from the wrong planets. Or he has been smoking the right plants but because his empire is old and defeated they have gone off. Either way, no one said they are beating you Twelve.



Ah you Magellan fool. You have been off exploring the cosmos far too long with no one else but the your own kind for company. The machines were somehow able to send a subtle warning my way prediciting my defeat should I move my fleet against them. They assume their advanced processing power and greater efficencies are too much for the Great and Glorious ERIDANI Empire to be able to handle. I am quivering with suppressed rage at the slight.


but you cowered him into changing his meaning. look he seeks no war, he points you in the direction of D'rek, to leave him alone whilst he plans your downfall.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:04 PM

For we care nothing for your feud.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:07 PM

You are all far too edgy about your neighbours.

D'rek is obviously making a play for center. That will deplete resources and leave her strung out pretty thin. That is the time to strike. Her early aggression is really an advantage for you!
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:33 PM

ha, look at me all talking strategy like I have a faint clue what's going to happen this game.

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your new avatar looks like a kitty more than a dragon.

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:42 PM

One his head is too small, two he doesn't look fierce enough. Love the colour though but that's just me. I created it here...

Create a dragon or something

I am going to give it another bash at a different time. See if I can make something awesome.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:49 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 16 May 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 May 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

And don't worry about struggling with the mechanics. It's all a little overwhelming at first, but you'll get the hang of it before D'rek decides to eat you.


I think Tapper is going to eat him first. D'rek is either going to have a nibble at me, or go for the centre.



View PostGanoes Paran, on 16 May 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 16 May 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 16 May 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 16 May 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

And don't worry about struggling with the mechanics. It's all a little overwhelming at first, but you'll get the hang of it before D'rek decides to eat you.


I think Tapper is going to eat him first. D'rek is either going to have a nibble at me, or go for the centre.

You think wrong. Attacking him will mean Twelve will scoop up some of my systems, just like him attacking me will likely force a war of attrition that I probably will win due to cheaper ships. Neither of us has much to gain by war and that makes us good allies. Furthermore, I have everything to win by SS holding his own and buffering my flank, because I think I may be forced to enter an unholy alliance with Twelve to stop D'rek immediately after she takes the centre (especially since you have your tongue so deep up Orion's ass that you can taste D'rek's dinner before it's digested).


I am just terribly frightened of engaging her in combat, last game saw it bankrupt me, she was by far the cleverer player. I took her down, but it was suicide.

Although the tongue thing, D'rek? Are you a willing participant in that scenario :p


Given that we are not even finished round 1, I have some serious reservations about where inter-player relations are headed in this game... :p

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:51 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 16 May 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

One his head is too small, two he doesn't look fierce enough. Love the colour though but that's just me. I created it here...

Create a dragon or something

I am going to give it another bash at a different time. See if I can make something awesome.


That thing is rad!

I didn't mean to diss something you created and I see the utility doesn't leave much for pose changes. I just thought the pose looked very kitty like with the one paw upraised.

Maybe "coat of arms"-ish too.

Now I want to spend all afternoon making dragons.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:51 PM

Has anybody been poking at SS to finalize his turn?
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 04:00 PM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 16 May 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

Has anybody been poking at SS to finalize his turn?


No, but he's obviously going to take everyone's advice on fixing his upkeep.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 04:27 PM

So we are waiting on SS and Khell upkeeps?
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 04:28 PM

And the Hive action.
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 04:47 PM

No, we're assuming SS will follow advice RE upkeep but he hasn't decided for sure what to do with his ship blueprints.

Seems to me his idea of the fusion source upgrade wasn't very good, but maybe we can take him at his last order and allow modification after the fact once he has a chance to sort everything out? I don't think it's going to make a bit of difference to everyone else's end-of-round strategy what he does with his upgrade actions.

I haven't made my last action yet, Twelve has made a provisional move. Just lemme have 1 last look and I'll do an update (even though it will be missing SS's upgrade components).
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