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Posted 08 July 2013 - 03:42 PM

RESearch Plasma Cannon

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 04:12 PM

@GP, morgoth, d'rek

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 04:27 PM

I have a question about those ion missiles that Khell nabbed from his discovery draw. Didn't Tapper already get those? I thought, from a conversation with D'rek, that there should be only one set of ion missiles and after reviewing the list of discovery tiles that were were short an ancient orbital tile. If that is the case wouldn't Khell have drawn an orbital instead of missiles? I know I should have brought this up sooner but with the holiday and extended weekend I forgot.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 04:43 PM

An extra ion missile tile comes with pulsar or supernova expansion...can't remember which.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 04:56 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 08 July 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

An extra ion missile tile comes with pulsar or supernova expansion...can't remember which.


Um, not quite. There is only 1 ion missile tile, and it comes with supernova. There was no ion missile in the base version.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 05:11 PM

Are you sure it isn't in the expansion content? We played with it last game (but didn't use supernova)...so I assumed that it was part of the expansion stuff.

Kinda late for a re-draw. I guess we're using 2 ion missile tiles.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 05:13 PM

Yes, after I look at the expansion rulebook, I see it's not part of the "official" expansion stuff.

So why did we use it last game if we weren't using supernova?
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 05:42 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 08 July 2013 - 06:56 AM, said:

sooo.... ?



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View PostGnaw, on 07 July 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 01 May 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

Gnaw, this is what you and me have got left I think:

Hydrani/Terran Federation
Douchebags of Magellan/Terran Union


I'd prefer to try the Hydrani, but I don't care really.


See. Just look at that. It's such an obvious mistake now that I know what I'm looking at.

I am the Terran Union.

But you gave the Terran Confederation home system!!! If that doesn't deserve a mulligan nothing does.

Hmph.



Hehe, that was literally the root cause of your loss! If you'd known earlier that it was not your homeworld, you wouldn't have defended it so hard from Tatts Posted Image


To confirm, yes, I only have one interceptor (and a slow-moving cruiser), so I could not pin both of twelve's dreads in my first go.





Don't you see? 223 has the money planets on the top and science to the left. 225, my proper hex, has money and science on the bottom of the hex. That difference impacted my entire strategy for the game!
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:09 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 08 July 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

Yes, after I look at the expansion rulebook, I see it's not part of the "official" expansion stuff.

So why did we use it last game if we weren't using supernova?


Because I felt like it. There's nothing saying you have to use ALL of an expansion's content.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:18 PM

@D'rek, no, you're right. There isn't

But it confused me and now it has BASICALLY RUINED THE GAME FOR EVERYBODY

So pat on the back there d'rek...we can all just suffer through to the game's inevitable conclusion where you win by cheat. Cheaty CHEAT!
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:19 PM

Cheating by devious manipulation of the mod prior to the game even starting and before you knew I was going to mod it.

The WORST kind of cheating.

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for shame


EDIT EDIT

Ok, now I am really just typing random accusations because I'm bored waiting for SS to make his move.

EDIT EDIT EDIT

TWelve is a cheat too!@!!!!! THE WORST WORST KIND. THE KIND THAT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE HE'S CHEATING

until he wins!

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:21 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 08 July 2013 - 06:18 PM, said:

@D'rek, no, you're right. There isn't

But it confused me and now it has BASICALLY RUINED THE GAME FOR EVERYBODY

So pat on the back there d'rek...we can all just suffer through to the game's inevitable conclusion where you win by cheat. Cheaty CHEAT!


Firstly, I didn't get the extra discovery or whatever, so it's definitely not ME cheating!

And secondly, if you were occasionally posting how many discovery tiles were left "in the bag" I would have caught the error and told you!


Just change the second-drawn one to an Ion Disrupter instead (that hasn't been drawn yet has it?)

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:30 PM

Cheat? Moi? Nunca!!!!!

I guess if we caught the error a bit sooner we could have had CF redraw the discovery tile. Frankly at this point I'm okay with whatever way the mod decides either keep the extra tile in or do a complete redraw for Khell or swap out one ship part for another.

I also agree that I'm bored waiting for SS to log on and post his move. I hope IH/Tapper will be quick on the draw to get their action in so you all can finally see my master defense plan unfold.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:36 PM

I am happy for us to redraw and for me to be given +8 money or +8 science or +8 materials or possibly all of the above. Thank you.


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:59 PM

Seeing as how a major reassignment of resources for Khell could be the product of a re-draw, and we're already done upkeep and have already drawn tech, I don't think it's the best idea to re-draw.

Looking at the OP spoilered image, it was included since day 1 (and not an accidental copy paste along the way on my part) ...so let's just keep it and pretend there were always 2.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 09:05 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 08 July 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

Seeing as how a major reassignment of resources for Khell could be the product of a re-draw, and we're already done upkeep and have already drawn tech, I don't think it's the best idea to re-draw.

Looking at the OP spoilered image, it was included since day 1 (and not an accidental copy paste along the way on my part) ...so let's just keep it and pretend there were always 2.


Not to mention that the only reason Twelve would be worrying about it is if he intended to attack Khell. Posted Image
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 09:11 PM

View PostGnaw, on 08 July 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 08 July 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

Seeing as how a major reassignment of resources for Khell could be the product of a re-draw, and we're already done upkeep and have already drawn tech, I don't think it's the best idea to re-draw.

Looking at the OP spoilered image, it was included since day 1 (and not an accidental copy paste along the way on my part) ...so let's just keep it and pretend there were always 2.


Not to mention that the only reason Twelve would be worrying about it is if he intended to attack Khell. Posted Image


I do admit that between the supernova, ancient hive and Khell's homeworld, there are definately three very juicy hexes available if I so desire to take them.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 11:33 PM

I can't see the board update!!
It must be my turn eh?
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 11:50 PM

View PostSolidsnape, on 08 July 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:

I can't see the board update!!
It must be my turn eh?



Yeah CF hasn't done a startnd update yet but it is your go.

Edit:

You should know what your starting resources are from your upkeep. Do you need help determining what tech is still around?

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 11:54 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 05 July 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

Supernova rolls:

Betelgeuse: [5,3] + 2 (khell's smallest tech track) = 10. Does not explode
Deneb: [2,3] + 0 (unclaimed) = 5 does not explode

New Techs: Nothing overly game changing after all. Fusion drive and improved hull are nice cheap pickups for just about anyone at any point in the game at least. Plasma cannon never hurts either.

Sorry, no rare tech drawn.

Attachment new tech.png





For tech look at the current board and then add this to the selection minus the plasma cannon (which you already have) and both improved hulls (which you don't but missed out on) and that should be what is available for tech.
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