[Tattersail_]

Keep it up HO, you're doing well.

Same with you Bliss.

[Lady Bliss]

HiddenOne said:

1358950079[/url]' post='1025823']

Lady Bliss said:

1358949719[/url]' post='1025821']

HiddenOne said:

1358948903[/url]' post='1025812']
I don't see Bonecaster's statements as a reveal, just a typical "I know you are, but what am I" exclamation of innocence - Everybody always says they're town in some fashion

not convinced by Hinter

Also the 4 man team thing is not working for me, I didn't buy it when Blend threw it out and still don't

I am kind of agreeing on the 4 man thing. I think we got a symp and a killer so there should be one more scum.

You agree with me, or Hinter?

That I'm not sure I'm buying blend's 4 man team thing.

[Bonecaster]

PS, I removed my vote.

[Tapper]

Lady Bliss, on 23 January 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

Aaaaand Day 3:

Path-Shaper said:

1358880647[/url]' post='1025565']
It is Day 3. 8 hours and 21 minutes remaining
9 Players still alive: Blend, Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Tattersail ( Blend )
5 Votes for Blend ( Lady Bliss, Tattersail, Hinter, Sixty, Bonecaster )

Players not voted: Hiddenone, Silencer, Tapper

Is there ANY pattern to these lynch trains?

Only that I only vote when I am around, which isn't much. Work (my usual place to play mafia) is stupidly demanding at the moment where I expected a lull, and I have a lot of (fun) things happening privately, as well - so no play-time there. The outage hit me for 2 work days in a row.

[HiddenOne]

Tattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 09:01 AM, said:

Silencer, on 23 January 2013 - 08:49 AM, said:

Tattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 08:45 AM, said:

So you are going to kill me tonight Silencer?

Hey, wouldn't that be revea-*gurgles and croaks from modkill*

This whole day seems very sticky. There are a few things to look at and no one is standing out for the lynch. At least three of you look scummy. WCS scenario says this is D day.

So if I look outside the box for a second and assume that we have 3 scum still left then we are going to need all 5 of town to vote together. There has not been a mafia game I have played whereby we have caught scum this easily and early.

let's assume The Dude was a real finder. He fingers HO as scum, we leave HO alone. We lynch Blend because of this connection but WCS dictates that The Dude could have been right and HO is scum.

Thoughts?

I agree that wedon't usually catch scum so fast & easy. Why would you suddenly decide to second guess everybody (yourself included I think) and suddenly PI the Dude and put me out there?

[Bonecaster]

Bliss, Hinter, and I are the common voters for the two lynches. I'm sure that makes us the three scum. *rolls eyes* In reality, I saw a lot of witch-hunting going on, and wouldn't have voted for either based on what anybody said they said. But then Dude fake-revealed as Finder, which made him Scum, or at best Town who's intentionally muddying the waters; and Blend theorized that ALL players are Scum, meaning he must be one.

[HiddenOne]

Tattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Keep it up HO, you're doing well.

Same with you Bliss.

yes, so far today I've made my boss mad, reviewed a contract and found 3 errors that could cost the company money, argued against insurance companies trying to rip us off, and posted here. Also, I just made coffee. BTW, if you're being condescending instead of sincere, you can blow a goat.

Do you really think Silencer is good enough to pull off the kind of CIA mind games required to run the game as you suggest?

[Tattersail_]

HiddenOne, on 23 January 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 09:01 AM, said:

Silencer, on 23 January 2013 - 08:49 AM, said:

Tattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 08:45 AM, said:

So you are going to kill me tonight Silencer?

Hey, wouldn't that be revea-*gurgles and croaks from modkill*

This whole day seems very sticky. There are a few things to look at and no one is standing out for the lynch. At least three of you look scummy. WCS scenario says this is D day.

So if I look outside the box for a second and assume that we have 3 scum still left then we are going to need all 5 of town to vote together. There has not been a mafia game I have played whereby we have caught scum this easily and early.

let's assume The Dude was a real finder. He fingers HO as scum, we leave HO alone. We lynch Blend because of this connection but WCS dictates that The Dude could have been right and HO is scum.

Thoughts?

I agree that wedon't usually catch scum so fast & easy. Why would you suddenly decide to second guess everybody (yourself included I think) and suddenly PI the Dude and put me out there?

BCS versus WCS.

We can go on and try and find Blends partner whom I think may lie in Silencer, Tapper or Sixty. Yet if we are wrong we lose this game today. Silencer jumped onto voting for you quite fast but I can see the merit in lynching you just in case Dude was right.

[Tattersail_]

HiddenOne, on 23 January 2013 - 02:33 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Keep it up HO, you're doing well.

Same with you Bliss.

yes, so far today I've made my boss mad, reviewed a contract and found 3 errors that could cost the company money, argued against insurance companies trying to rip us off, and posted here. Also, I just made coffee. BTW, if you're being condescending instead of sincere, you can blow a goat.

Do you really think Silencer is good enough to pull off the kind of CIA mind games required to run the game as you suggest?

Silencer is one of the best mafia players around. Don't under estimate him. Depending on mindset a few of the veterans can run rings around us. It cannot be so right that we lynch 3 scum in 3 days. Paranoia says we have it all wrong.

[HiddenOne]

Silencer, on 23 January 2013 - 11:21 AM, said:

Tattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 10:54 AM, said:

I hate to agree with you but \i do. There is a big chance that HO is scum and the Dude revealed as town thinking getting one scum outweighs being killed off himself.

Vote HO

The trouble comes when one considers that the Dude wasn't just risking his life if he was legitimately a Finder - that sort of "take the modkill for the team" kind of stuff is also the "call the game because some jackass broke it" stuff. I mean, if it was a false practically-a-reveal then no harm, no foul. But if it was a real practically-a-reveal then that's breaking the rules for the sake of a tiny advantage, something deliberate enough that I think, were I modding, I would end the game over if it had any actual impact. Taking that kind of gamble as town? Iunno.

That and the fact that you cannot make a play like that blind; you either are fully cognizant of the implications (in which case you don't do it - the above mentioned, and also the can of supersized WIFOM it entails opening are just too massive to ignore) or...I don't even know what the "or" here is. And that's why I can't see a legit Finder pulling that kind of stunt. *sigh*

You're right though that WCS would mean the Dude was right. No, wait, WCS would mean that the Dude was wrong but also not scum. But that's a pointless scenario to entertain, lol. So that aside, yeah. I just don't like the implications for the conduct of the Dude if that is the case.


How many hours on the clock? We need five votes to lynch, and I for one don't want to rush this.

I feel this post reverses the vote you have placed against me and leave it as such. Pressure vote, understandable, I am trying to catch up

[HiddenOne]

Tapper, on 23 January 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 23 January 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

Aaaaand Day 3:

Path-Shaper, on 22 January 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 8 hours and 21 minutes remaining
9 Players still alive: Blend, Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Tattersail ( Blend )
5 Votes for Blend ( Lady Bliss, Tattersail, Hinter, Sixty, Bonecaster )

Players not voted: Hiddenone, Silencer, Tapper

Is there ANY pattern to these lynch trains?

Only that I only vote when I am around, which isn't much. Work (my usual place to play mafia) is stupidly demanding at the moment where I expected a lull, and I have a lot of (fun) things happening privately, as well - so no play-time there. The outage hit me for 2 work days in a row.

Surely there must be time for a quick lesson for all us newbs?


I'm kidding, Taps, although I bet within 6 months you are engaged (if not already) You give off the vibe of a man about to be captured by love

[HiddenOne]

Tattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

HiddenOne, on 23 January 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 09:01 AM, said:

Silencer, on 23 January 2013 - 08:49 AM, said:

Tattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 08:45 AM, said:

So you are going to kill me tonight Silencer?

Hey, wouldn't that be revea-*gurgles and croaks from modkill*

This whole day seems very sticky. There are a few things to look at and no one is standing out for the lynch. At least three of you look scummy. WCS scenario says this is D day.

So if I look outside the box for a second and assume that we have 3 scum still left then we are going to need all 5 of town to vote together. There has not been a mafia game I have played whereby we have caught scum this easily and early.

let's assume The Dude was a real finder. He fingers HO as scum, we leave HO alone. We lynch Blend because of this connection but WCS dictates that The Dude could have been right and HO is scum.

Thoughts?

I agree that wedon't usually catch scum so fast & easy. Why would you suddenly decide to second guess everybody (yourself included I think) and suddenly PI the Dude and put me out there?

BCS versus WCS.

We can go on and try and find Blends partner whom I think may lie in Silencer, Tapper or Sixty. Yet if we are wrong we lose this game today. Silencer jumped onto voting for you quite fast but I can see the merit in lynching you just in case Dude was right.

We have to find the partner, and it may be just where you say. I'm not sure it feels like DDay around here but it has snuck up on me before. I can't see any merit in lynching me, because you'll hurt town, there's no CF to confirm or refute, and there's no other players from the fake reveal to link if there was a CF in place. "just in case" isn't worth it.

Tattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

HiddenOne, on 23 January 2013 - 02:33 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Keep it up HO, you're doing well.

Same with you Bliss.

yes, so far today I've made my boss mad, reviewed a contract and found 3 errors that could cost the company money, argued against insurance companies trying to rip us off, and posted here. Also, I just made coffee. BTW, if you're being condescending instead of sincere, you can blow a goat.

Do you really think Silencer is good enough to pull off the kind of CIA mind games required to run the game as you suggest?

Silencer is one of the best mafia players around. Don't under estimate him. Depending on mindset a few of the veterans can run rings around us. It cannot be so right that we lynch 3 scum in 3 days. Paranoia says we have it all wrong.

You don;t have to tell me, I've played with him a few times.

Now I have to focus, I've screwed around on here too much already

[Lady Bliss]

Tattersail said:

1358952029[/url]' post='1025835']

HiddenOne said:

1358951135[/url]' post='1025828']

Tattersail said:

1358931712[/url]' post='1025767']

Silencer said:

1358930949[/url]' post='1025765']

Tattersail said:

1358930719[/url]' post='1025763']
So you are going to kill me tonight Silencer?

Hey, wouldn't that be revea-*gurgles and croaks from modkill*

This whole day seems very sticky. There are a few things to look at and no one is standing out for the lynch. At least three of you look scummy. WCS scenario says this is D day.

So if I look outside the box for a second and assume that we have 3 scum still left then we are going to need all 5 of town to vote together. There has not been a mafia game I have played whereby we have caught scum this easily and early.

let's assume The Dude was a real finder. He fingers HO as scum, we leave HO alone. We lynch Blend because of this connection but WCS dictates that The Dude could have been right and HO is scum.

Thoughts?

I agree that wedon't usually catch scum so fast & easy. Why would you suddenly decide to second guess everybody (yourself included I think) and suddenly PI the Dude and put me out there?

BCS versus WCS.

We can go on and try and find Blends partner whom I think may lie in Silencer, Tapper or Sixty. Yet if we are wrong we lose this game today. Silencer jumped onto voting for you quite fast but I can see the merit in lynching you just in case Dude was right.

Blend admitted to being scum, and Dude wasn't mod killed. Add the lack of nk after lynching Blend, and I think we are on the right trail. I'm going to really need to reread Silencer, because he was a big proponent for both Bend and Dude, and I can't see whittling your own team like that as a winning tactic. Tapper hasn't offered much and only voted once. Voting for your symp isn't much of a gamble. So could be just distancing. And Sixty and Blend seemed to be in the same camp in going after you, with that distancing vote at the end.
Sixty and Tapper are my top picks.

[Tapper]

HiddenOne, on 23 January 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

Tapper, on 23 January 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 23 January 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

Aaaaand Day 3:

Path-Shaper, on 22 January 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 8 hours and 21 minutes remaining
9 Players still alive: Blend, Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Tattersail ( Blend )
5 Votes for Blend ( Lady Bliss, Tattersail, Hinter, Sixty, Bonecaster )

Players not voted: Hiddenone, Silencer, Tapper

Is there ANY pattern to these lynch trains?

Only that I only vote when I am around, which isn't much. Work (my usual place to play mafia) is stupidly demanding at the moment where I expected a lull, and I have a lot of (fun) things happening privately, as well - so no play-time there. The outage hit me for 2 work days in a row.

Surely there must be time for a quick lesson for all us newbs?


I'm kidding, Taps, although I bet within 6 months you are engaged (if not already) You give off the vibe of a man about to be captured by love

Nah, it won't go that quickly. I think.

[Tapper]

Lady Bliss, on 23 January 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

Tattersail said:

1358952029[/url]' post='1025835']

HiddenOne said:

1358951135[/url]' post='1025828']

Tattersail said:

1358931712[/url]' post='1025767']

Silencer said:

1358930949[/url]' post='1025765']

Tattersail said:

1358930719[/url]' post='1025763']
So you are going to kill me tonight Silencer?

Hey, wouldn't that be revea-*gurgles and croaks from modkill*

This whole day seems very sticky. There are a few things to look at and no one is standing out for the lynch. At least three of you look scummy. WCS scenario says this is D day.

So if I look outside the box for a second and assume that we have 3 scum still left then we are going to need all 5 of town to vote together. There has not been a mafia game I have played whereby we have caught scum this easily and early.

let's assume The Dude was a real finder. He fingers HO as scum, we leave HO alone. We lynch Blend because of this connection but WCS dictates that The Dude could have been right and HO is scum.

Thoughts?

I agree that wedon't usually catch scum so fast & easy. Why would you suddenly decide to second guess everybody (yourself included I think) and suddenly PI the Dude and put me out there?

BCS versus WCS.

We can go on and try and find Blends partner whom I think may lie in Silencer, Tapper or Sixty. Yet if we are wrong we lose this game today. Silencer jumped onto voting for you quite fast but I can see the merit in lynching you just in case Dude was right.

Blend admitted to being scum, and Dude wasn't mod killed. Add the lack of nk after lynching Blend, and I think we are on the right trail. I'm going to really need to reread Silencer, because he was a big proponent for both Bend and Dude, and I can't see whittling your own team like that as a winning tactic. Tapper hasn't offered much and only voted once. Voting for your symp isn't much of a gamble. So could be just distancing. And Sixty and Blend seemed to be in the same camp in going after you, with that distancing vote at the end.
Sixty and Tapper are my top picks.

First bit: don't second guess the mods. Maybe he wasn't mod-killed because he was lying and therefore not revealing (there is a catch there: suppose we should all reveal we were the guy who killed Gnaw - the real killers will be mod-killed for revealing their role, hmm?)
Maybe The Dude wasn't mod-killed because Bubba didn't want to prove his reveal as the real thing by mod-killing him, maybe he was lying and Bubba didn't want to mod-kill him as the reveal would be seen as a real one, to the disadvantage of whomever believed him. Maybe he didn;t get mod-killed because the mods who were around wanted to wait for Bubba with such a decision. Don't second guess the mods - it's pure WIFOM.

The lack of a NK can be a great deal of different things: a heal, a guard on a single killer (remember, no reveals!), a killer forgetting a provisional... maybe Blend was a killer and put in the provisional, which then wasn't used as he's dead.

You're looking at wifom and congratulate everyone on being on the right track. What's worrying is that people actually agree with you without seeing the faulty basis. Like Silencer also pointed out.

Also, now I am suddenly a killer, where I was first a symp who reacted to his masters? * raises eyebrow * you sure love me, Bliss.

[Lady Bliss]

Tapper said:

1358954974[/url]' post='1025858']

Lady Bliss said:

1358953374[/url]' post='1025849']

Tattersail said:

1358952029[/url]' post='1025835']

HiddenOne said:

1358951135[/url]' post='1025828']

Tattersail said:

1358931712[/url]' post='1025767']

Silencer said:

1358930949[/url]' post='1025765']

Tattersail said:

1358930719[/url]' post='1025763']
So you are going to kill me tonight Silencer?

Hey, wouldn't that be revea-*gurgles and croaks from modkill*

This whole day seems very sticky. There are a few things to look at and no one is standing out for the lynch. At least three of you look scummy. WCS scenario says this is D day.

So if I look outside the box for a second and assume that we have 3 scum still left then we are going to need all 5 of town to vote together. There has not been a mafia game I have played whereby we have caught scum this easily and early.

let's assume The Dude was a real finder. He fingers HO as scum, we leave HO alone. We lynch Blend because of this connection but WCS dictates that The Dude could have been right and HO is scum.

Thoughts?

I agree that wedon't usually catch scum so fast & easy. Why would you suddenly decide to second guess everybody (yourself included I think) and suddenly PI the Dude and put me out there?

BCS versus WCS.

We can go on and try and find Blends partner whom I think may lie in Silencer, Tapper or Sixty. Yet if we are wrong we lose this game today. Silencer jumped onto voting for you quite fast but I can see the merit in lynching you just in case Dude was right.

Blend admitted to being scum, and Dude wasn't mod killed. Add the lack of nk after lynching Blend, and I think we are on the right trail. I'm going to really need to reread Silencer, because he was a big proponent for both Bend and Dude, and I can't see whittling your own team like that as a winning tactic. Tapper hasn't offered much and only voted once. Voting for your symp isn't much of a gamble. So could be just distancing. And Sixty and Blend seemed to be in the same camp in going after you, with that distancing vote at the end.
Sixty and Tapper are my top picks.

First bit: don't second guess the mods. Maybe he wasn't mod-killed because he was lying and therefore not revealing (there is a catch there: suppose we should all reveal we were the guy who killed Gnaw - the real killers will be mod-killed for revealing their role, hmm?)
Maybe The Dude wasn't mod-killed because Bubba didn't want to prove his reveal as the real thing by mod-killing him, maybe he was lying and Bubba didn't want to mod-kill him as the reveal would be seen as a real one, to the disadvantage of whomever believed him. Maybe he didn;t get mod-killed because the mods who were around wanted to wait for Bubba with such a decision. Don't second guess the mods - it's pure WIFOM.

The lack of a NK can be a great deal of different things: a heal, a guard on a single killer (remember, no reveals!), a killer forgetting a provisional... maybe Blend was a killer and put in the provisional, which then wasn't used as he's dead.

You're looking at wifom and congratulate everyone on being on the right track. What's worrying is that people actually agree with you without seeing the faulty basis. Like Silencer also pointed out.

Also, now I am suddenly a killer, where I was first a symp who reacted to his masters? * raises eyebrow * you sure love me, Bliss.

You ARE terribly handsome! I see a possible association. Surely I am not the first to vacillate between what role you may have.in a mafia game. Your only defenses have been to downplay me and blame RL, which I am not totally ruling out.
What are your thoughts on Sixty?

[Lady Bliss]

Ok, we have 15 hours left(ish) to all get on the same wagon.
I'm going to....
Vote Sixty
Tapper is another potential, but no one else sees it and Sixty and Blend seem to have a stronger connection.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 15 hours and 10 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Hiddenone ( Silencer, Tattersail )
1 Vote for Sixty ( Lady Bliss )

Players not voted: Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Sixty, Tapper

[Tattersail_]

If more people want to vote Sixty then I could go that way looking back. If you see no merit in what I am suggesting. I'll vote before I got to bed tonight and then see what happened in the morning as i'll miss day end.

[Lady Bliss]

Tattersail said:

1358956744[/url]' post='1025872']
If more people want to vote Sixty then I could go that way looking back. If you see no merit in what I am suggesting. I'll vote before I got to bed tonight and then see what happened in the morning as i'll miss day end.

I think Blend saw Dude as his Symp NOT a finder. If HO was Blends partner, and Dude's reveal was real, then I think that Blend would have wanted a finder OUT of the game. Instead, Blend kept going after you Tatts, as did Sixty.