[Silencer]

By my count, ~20 hours on the clock. Good, plenty of time.

In that case I'm going to bed.

[Tattersail_]

 Path-Shaper, on 22 January 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

It is Day 4. 35 hours and 59 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

This is when day 4 started.

[Tattersail_]

So 24th at 7.04am roughly.

So yeah around 20 hours, 35 minutes.

[Lady Bliss]

FFS! The last few pages are a dizzying array of accusations!
Here are my random thought all the way up to this point....

• dude 'revealed' derailed the Blend train on Day 1 by adding a third lynch target:Khell
• day 2, we obviously want to get a lynch after missing one Day 1, so Dude 'reveals' finder and fingers HO. Bubba warns us that Real Reveals will be mod killed, so we lynch Dude for a Symp.
• we lynch Blend as the most likely candidate of Dude's Symping, and in perfect scum style, he tells us THAT EVERYBODY IS SCUM to cause pure chaos for his surviving partner to slip away in. For those of you that didn't understand that he meant ALL Of US, 3 x 4 person scum teams = 12
• Now we are all playing into blends hands and all havoc has ensued. I believe we now have votes on: Hinter, BC, Tapper, Silencer, HO.... Any others?

Let's get something coherent together and really figure out Bend's partner.

Remove vote

[Lady Bliss]

Correction to bullet 1, day 1 was not the reveal, just random target Khell.

[Tattersail_]

 Lady Bliss, on 23 January 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

FFS! The last few pages are a dizzying array of accusations!
Here are my random thought all the way up to this point....

• dude 'revealed' derailed the Blend train on Day 1 by adding a third lynch target:Khell
• day 2, we obviously want to get a lynch after missing one Day 1, so Dude 'reveals' finder and fingers HO. Bubba warns us that Real Reveals will be mod killed, so we lynch Dude for a Symp.
• we lynch Blend as the most likely candidate of Dude's Symping, and in perfect scum style, he tells us THAT EVERYBODY IS SCUM to cause pure chaos for his surviving partner to slip away in. For those of you that didn't understand that he meant ALL Of US, 3 x 4 person scum teams = 12
• Now we are all playing into blends hands and all havoc has ensued. I believe we now have votes on: Hinter, BC, Tapper, Silencer, HO.... Any others?

Let's get something coherent together and really figure out Bend's partner.

Remove vote

That is what I have. That is BCS.

Now flip the mirror to Dude being a legit finder, highly unlikely but WCS. That leaves us lynching town. That means today is D day on WCS. So we lynch HO and THEN look for Blend's partner. That way it will not be D day until a day further down the line. It makes the most sense.

[HiddenOne]

back in, so let me read up

[Lady Bliss]

Tattersail said:

1358945764[/url]' post='1025801']

Lady Bliss said:

1358945553[/url]' post='1025799']
FFS! The last few pages are a dizzying array of accusations!
Here are my random thought all the way up to this point....

• dude 'revealed' derailed the Blend train on Day 1 by adding a third lynch target:Khell
• day 2, we obviously want to get a lynch after missing one Day 1, so Dude 'reveals' finder and fingers HO. Bubba warns us that Real Reveals will be mod killed, so we lynch Dude for a Symp.
• we lynch Blend as the most likely candidate of Dude's Symping, and in perfect scum style, he tells us THAT EVERYBODY IS SCUM to cause pure chaos for his surviving partner to slip away in. For those of you that didn't understand that he meant ALL Of US, 3 x 4 person scum teams = 12
• Now we are all playing into blends hands and all havoc has ensued. I believe we now have votes on: Hinter, BC, Tapper, Silencer, HO.... Any others?

Let's get something coherent together and really figure out Bend's partner.

Remove vote

That is what I have. That is BCS.

Now flip the mirror to Dude being a legit finder, highly unlikely but WCS. That leaves us lynching town. That means today is D day on WCS. So we lynch HO and THEN look for Blend's partner. That way it will not be D day until a day further down the line. It makes the most sense.

But Blend basically admitted to being scum. Do we see HO as Blends partner? I think we have real movement going on eliminating team scum, and if we get sidetracked we may lose it.

[Bonecaster]

 Lady Bliss, on 23 January 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

FFS! The last few pages are a dizzying array of accusations!
Here are my random thought all the way up to this point....

• dude 'revealed' derailed the Blend train on Day 1 by adding a third lynch target:Khell
• day 2, we obviously want to get a lynch after missing one Day 1, so Dude 'reveals' finder and fingers HO. Bubba warns us that Real Reveals will be mod killed, so we lynch Dude for a Symp.
• we lynch Blend as the most likely candidate of Dude's Symping, and in perfect scum style, he tells us THAT EVERYBODY IS SCUM to cause pure chaos for his surviving partner to slip away in. For those of you that didn't understand that he meant ALL Of US, 3 x 4 person scum teams = 12
• Now we are all playing into blends hands and all havoc has ensued. I believe we now have votes on: Hinter, BC, Tapper, Silencer, HO.... Any others?

Let's get something coherent together and really figure out Bend's partner.

Remove vote

*sigh* Yeah, I agree. Too many in the mix at once is a bit counter-productive. And I guess not having a sense of humor doesn't make one Scum.


remove vote

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 17 hours and 20 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Hiddenone ( Silencer, Tattersail )
1 Vote for Hinter ( Bonecaster )

Players not voted: Hiddenone, Hinter, Lady Bliss, Sixty, Tapper

[Lady Bliss]

Ok, so I'm analyzing the lynch trais.
Day 1: final votes before vote outage.

HiddenOne said:

1358392729[/url]' post='1024750']glad to see Silencer is leading a master class on the finer points of noob baiting, I was really hurting myself trying to glean the facts from the page 1-5 crossfire.

now it's time for me to shut down for a few hours


My take on the two main suspects for today:

I interacted with Blend a bit, he struck me as somewhat jumpy, reacting - first voting me, then unvoting when called out, claiming jokes & general good times

Tatts has laid down plenty of his typical stream of thought, didn't note anything unusual- in fact I didn't get to read much of substance from anyone yet but it's early



I feel Blend to be the best choice at this time, and since I will not be back before time out (if the 5 hours is correct)I leave my vote

Vote Blend

Silencer said:

1358394090[/url]' post='1024760']
Alright, I'm off to work. I'm going to vote Blend just for that little attempt at manipulating me.

Vote Blend

See you all in seven hours or so!

Path-Shaper said:

1358394244[/url]' post='1024762']
It is Day 1. 2 hours and 44 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Blend, Bonecaster, Dude, Gnaw, Hiddenone, Hinter, Khell, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Tattersail ( Sixty, Blend, Khell )
4 5 Votes for Blend ( Hinter, Lady Bliss, Gnaw, Hiddenone, PS missed Silencer)
2 Votes for Khell ( Tattersail, Dude )

Players not voted: Bonecaster, Silencer, Tapper

I only hopped on for a second before bed. I don't know if anyone else will be on when day times out. You know the drill. Provisionals people. Obviously with a zero night...

Bonecaster said:

1358394352[/url]' post='1024764']
OK, off to bed. Not sure about voting. I don't want to try to make anyone look good or bad. God knows what this pack would think of that! Also not sure if not voting at all would raise a bunch of eyebrows. So, since it's fairly close to Night anyway (In the year 40,000, we call it Old Night), I don't really see how it could be considered self-incriminating. (Although, again, God knows what this pack will think.) So...


vote Night

The Dude said:

1358394803[/url]' post='1024767']
There is the easy voting again. Path of least resistance.

Remove vote

Vote tattersail

Seems to have the most day 1 resistance to a lynch. Should be back before lynch time for a vote swap if necessary.

Final tally before outage:
4 votes Tattersail (sixty, Blend, Khell, Dude)5 votes Blend (Hinter, Lady Bliss, Gnaw, HO, Silencer)1 vote Khell (Tatts)1 vote night (BC)
Player not voted: Tapper

[HiddenOne]

I don't see Bonecaster's statements as a reveal, just a typical "I know you are, but what am I" exclamation of innocence - Everybody always says they're town in some fashion

not convinced by Hinter

Also the 4 man team thing is not working for me, I didn't buy it when Blend threw it out and still don't

[HiddenOne]

 Silencer, on 23 January 2013 - 03:52 AM, said:

 Hinter, on 23 January 2013 - 03:45 AM, said:

I see Silencer is here, probably composing another essay designed to daze and confuse.

So I'm going to run with my fourth man theory and go for the master rather than the underling.

remove vote


vote Silencer

OK, wait, wait. So not only did I get Dude lynched, sit back and watch Blend get lynched (who was apparently a member of my team) and am now protecting (another member of my team) from getting lynched - not only all this, but *I* am the master? What sort of scum setup are you fucking imagining?!?! Four members of team scum, who apparently all know each other and who we've correctly identified with no CF and no reveals over the space of three nights? I don't know where you learned to play mafia, but my lord things have changed if it was here.

To me, this is seriously fishy play. Not fishy as in "I'm scum and am lashing out blindly and saying stupid stuff to muddy the waters" (one way to read it, granted), but more like "I actually WANT you people to lynch me so I'll say stupid things and attack people at random". Which is just feeding my paranoia. Le sigh.

Clearly we also need to have a look at who was on the chopping block before Hinter started his rampage, 'cuz if he's not suicidal he's deflecting from SOMEONE with this stuff...

if you think Hinter is deflecting for someone, I don't see who it would be, either - there's no one on the verge

[Lady Bliss]

Day 2:

Lizradus said:

1358614270[/url]' post='1025085']
11 Players still alive: Blend, Bonecaster, Dude, Hiddenone, Hinter, Khell, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Tattersail ( Sixty, Blend )
1 Vote for Hiddenone ( Dude )
4 Votes for Dude ( Hinter, Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Tapper )

Players not voted: Khell, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Tattersail

Silencer said:

1358643077[/url]' post='1025126']
Well if there was one quick-fire way to get me to place my vote back, it was going to be fatalism.

Vote the Dude

Which I believe puts him back at L-1.

Lady Bliss said:

1358644978[/url]' post='1025132']
I did another read through today and came across this post which stood out to me:

The Dude said:

1358377599[/url]' post='1024651']

Khellendros said:

1358375357[/url]' post='1024631']

Lady Bliss said:

1358372874[/url]' post='1024609']

Khellendros said:

1358372325[/url]' post='1024606']
Bliss, it's not your voting for Blend that I necessarily disagree with. Right now, he's my second choice after Tats, but the way you identified me as a killer with Blend but then voted Blend rather than me which is interesting, as is the timing of your vote. You are, after all, the person I'm accusing of being a symp if I'm right about Tats, and so it's interesting that you agree with Tats' assumptions but then vote differently to him. That suggests to me that you want to help him but don't feel you can afford to vote the same way as him, so you go for his other target, and dress it up as your own 'case'.

Khell, the reason why I chose Blend over you is because he really seems to be milking this 'dirty' talk. Tapper also emphasized "dirty" in his response which seems significant.
The fact that I flirted with Tatts is just my being a shameless tart which we should all be aware of by now. I think he spazzed a bit too much, and does look scummy, but the Blend, Khell, Tapper case I made just seems stronger to me.

Oh yes, your case is super-strong.

Remove Vote
Vote Blend


I do like your 'oh yes, I think Tats is scummy, but actually I clearly have no intention of voting for him ever'

I'll only be around a couple more hours on and off, day timeout is in the wee small hours for me.

And this seals the deal

vote Khell


you have looked scummy to me all game and this vote stinks of trying to get a train going on someone to save your skin before they can turn on you.


I'd also be open to tattersail. But I am happy with this vote. Same feeling I got when I led the train on Ruse day one last game. I was right then as well. I am going with informed instincts here.

I don't really have a feel for Bliss. I don't think a lynch is as essential in a non CF game as we don't know either way if we are right or not. So unless I got a better feel for her I;m not sure if i'd go for a vote on her.

Not sure how I feel about a blend lynch. His interactions with Khell haven't stuck out at me. (And Khell's interactions with him are not the reason I am voting Khell).

Let me go back and look at Bliss and see if I can pick up what you guys are sensing.

Dude went after Khell when he put Blend at 4 votes, which may have been enough to get a train rolling. This is what I would expect from a symp, as well as the false reveal today since we never got a lynch day 1. The fact that he didn't get mod killed for violating game rules doesn't support a true reveal to me.
Any scum lynch is better than none, and I'd like to see us move forward.
Vote Dude

Final tally:
2 votes Tatts (Sixty, Blend)1 vote HO (Dude)6 votes for Dude (Hinter, Boncecaster, HO, Tapper, Silencer, Bliss)
Players not voted: Khell, Tatts

[HiddenOne]

 Hinter, on 23 January 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

Fuck it - been trying to add a reply for half an hour but apparently my end quotes don't match my start quotes or something.

Why teams of four? look at the signup thread. Bubba wanted 12 or 16 people. Not 12 plus. Not 11. 12 or 16 people. This means teams of four. At least one team of four will be scum and in a game with no CF that is not weighted in their favour as you suggested.

As for the Dudes reveal, when he first vaguely revealed it was no worse than Boner's. It was only later when Bubba spanked him for actually using the term in his post, and he didn't die through modkill, that the rest of us found it fishy and lynched him. Hey, you have still got a team of three left.

You had no choice but to "sit back and watch Blend get lynched" your words, because any other play on your part would lead to the connection with you. In fact you actually posted that you were abstaining due to RL, giving you the perfect excuse not to be on Blend's train.

Now that I have "fingered" Bonehunter, you are suddenly very active again because you see another member of your team potentially going down, and now I'm apparently going crazy trying to attract attention to myself, i.e, lets move the focus from Boney to Hinter.

I can see why it would look like Silencer is defending Bonecaster, but I see at least Sixty and myself agreeing, which lends it merit, if I were in your position

[Lady Bliss]

Aaaaand Day 3:

Path-Shaper said:

1358880647[/url]' post='1025565']
It is Day 3. 8 hours and 21 minutes remaining
9 Players still alive: Blend, Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Tattersail ( Blend )
5 Votes for Blend ( Lady Bliss, Tattersail, Hinter, Sixty, Bonecaster )

Players not voted: Hiddenone, Silencer, Tapper

Is there ANY pattern to these lynch trains?

[Lady Bliss]

Maybe Sixty, Day 1 and Day 2, Blend follows his vote. He put Blend on L1 on Day 3 which was kind of an inevitable train, and that would be good distancing.

[Lady Bliss]

HiddenOne said:

1358948903[/url]' post='1025812']
I don't see Bonecaster's statements as a reveal, just a typical "I know you are, but what am I" exclamation of innocence - Everybody always says they're town in some fashion

not convinced by Hinter

Also the 4 man team thing is not working for me, I didn't buy it when Blend threw it out and still don't

I am kind of agreeing on the 4 man thing. I think we got a symp and a killer so there should be one more scum.

[HiddenOne]

 Tattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 08:08 AM, said:

You've said that a few times now, but it doesn't fly with me, you posted quite a lot yesterday elsewhere on the forum. I was around the forum most of the day, clicking on new content.. (I'm only mentioning this because you are using it as a defense mind) and you posted throughout the day. Fair enough that you had RL issues but you did have time to post on the board and if that is the case you could have done a quick catch up and give us more on your thoughts. In fact, you where here most of the first two days so you would have had an opinion on yesterdays lynch target. The fact that you didn't vote him even though you insisted on us needing to lynch every day is telling. Yes lynch doesn't equal vote but we need votes to lynch no?

I will never cry foul on anyone's RL activities, I know mine control my ability to mafia-tize at all hours. I'm staying out of this one

[HiddenOne]

 Lady Bliss, on 23 January 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

 HiddenOne, on 23 January 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

I don't see Bonecaster's statements as a reveal, just a typical "I know you are, but what am I" exclamation of innocence - Everybody always says they're town in some fashion

not convinced by Hinter

Also the 4 man team thing is not working for me, I didn't buy it when Blend threw it out and still don't

I am kind of agreeing on the 4 man thing. I think we got a symp and a killer so there should be one more scum.

You agree with me, or Hinter?