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Posted 26 March 2013 - 06:40 AM

Denesmet, on 26 March 2013 - 05:39 AM, said:

Night 1

Blood Bending against Monock Ochem, please.



Adding this to the NA thread.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:55 AM

D'rek, I carried out the blood bending of monok ocham (I missed the day part of the edit.) I didn't know if you wanted him to know the actual names of the abilities so this was the PM I sent to Denesmet

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Ok, I don't know if D'rek want's you to have the actual "names" of the abilities or not, but here are their descriptions. I'll leave a note in SH, and if she wants to supply you with the names she'll add them in later.

Ability1 Passive. You are immune to recruitment.
Ability2 Passive. You cannot be guarded.
Ability3 Limited number of uses (1). you can take two night or day-actions in the same phase (not including the use of this action).

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:58 AM

Fanderay, on 26 March 2013 - 06:52 AM, said:

Shite. I just voted for Eloth, following Ryll's vote. Definitely should have checked that before I posted....

Hopefully I just need to survive the day and then I can hop to someone new. Can I get confirmation from D'rek (when she returns) about whether I need a night to prepare my target or whether I can jump straight in?

At this stage, providing I survive the day, I'm looking at low posters to jump into. The lowest three are Liosan, Trake, Tellan and Denesmet. Not sure if I want to jump into the lowest poster though, if town doesn't have a good candidate for tomorrow then we're likely to be looking at a low poster hunt...


D'rek, Fanderay also wants to know about "prep" for her jump.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:59 AM

Desra, on 26 March 2013 - 06:52 AM, said:

Just in case. Night 1 action.

Kill gay lord.

If he is lynched, kill mockra



Noted, thank you.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 08:11 AM

Denesmet, on 26 March 2013 - 08:03 AM, said:

So they can do night or day actions, but don't have any actions to do? How preposterous! :p

Excellent.

I guess I will fuck him up and

Use Ability 3 tonight, and target his two passive abilities 1, and 2, to go off tonight.

I know they are passives and will go off anyway. LET ME HAVE THIS.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 11:20 AM

Ultama, on 26 March 2013 - 10:28 AM, said:

NA: use spin-up.



Noted, thank you.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 11:27 AM

D'rek, I informed Essle 3 (Liosan) who Essle 5 is (Rashan).

I don't think Tapper saw that mail, so he didn't know to do an update. Things like that should maybe be posted in a seperate thread

"So and So needs a PM about Such and Such when Blahblahblah Condition is met"
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 11:59 AM

Liosan, on 26 March 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

Ta.


For tonight:

Find Densemet

If dead, Korbas.

Also, why only one backup action? I get that you guys have a lot of potential actions to work through, but I figure with the chances of there being day actions which result in people's deaths (quite high), it's a little odd to not let me, say, just run a list of five players and if all but the last are dead you just work through them.

Not that I'm complaining here, I don't really care, it just seems a bit short on the options. XD

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 12:11 PM

Kilava, on 26 March 2013 - 12:09 PM, said:

I think ill do a find on Rylandaras.

Spidy sense tingling and might as well get some finds in before this alt gets killed or summin.

Use Keen Observer on Rylandaras.


or wateverfuk its called. this will be my NA

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:24 PM

D'rek checking in
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:34 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 26 March 2013 - 07:55 AM, said:

D'rek, I carried out the blood bending of monok ocham (I missed the day part of the edit.) I didn't know if you wanted him to know the actual names of the abilities so this was the PM I sent to Denesmet

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Ok, I don't know if D'rek want's you to have the actual "names" of the abilities or not, but here are their descriptions. I'll leave a note in SH, and if she wants to supply you with the names she'll add them in later.

Ability1 Passive. You are immune to recruitment.
Ability2 Passive. You cannot be guarded.
Ability3 Limited number of uses (1). you can take two night or day-actions in the same phase (not including the use of this action).

-Shin


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Denesmet, on 26 March 2013 - 08:03 AM, said:

So they can do night or day actions, but don't have any actions to do? How preposterous! :p

Excellent.

I guess I will fuck him up and

Use Ability 3 tonight, and target his two passive abilities 1, and 2, to go off tonight.

I know they are passives and will go off anyway. LET ME HAVE THIS.




Sent this response:

D'rek here. My modterpretation is that in the original game that had Tarrlok, the abilities were more or less standard so learning someone's abilities would not constitute a very good find, unless you picked a couple people who had very specific abilities. Here, however, getting the full ability info would essentially constitute a find.

So, as Shin did, we will only give you the mechanics of the abilities, not the names or flavour text. But like the original game, if you find a very unique role like the Predator you'll be able to tell just from the abilities, anyways, so the spirit of the ability stays about the same.

And yes, it is totally prepostrous :p
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:37 PM

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Fanderay, on 26 March 2013 - 06:52 AM, said:

Shite. I just voted for Eloth, following Ryll's vote. Definitely should have checked that before I posted....

Hopefully I just need to survive the day and then I can hop to someone new. Can I get confirmation from D'rek (when she returns) about whether I need a night to prepare my target or whether I can jump straight in?

At this stage, providing I survive the day, I'm looking at low posters to jump into. The lowest three are Liosan, Trake, Tellan and Denesmet. Not sure if I want to jump into the lowest poster though, if town doesn't have a good candidate for tomorrow then we're likely to be looking at a low poster hunt...


D'rek, Fanderay also wants to know about "prep" for her jump.


Sent her this:

Prepare and Jump are seperate night actions. You need to Prepare one night, then Jump on a different night. Either action could be guarded or otherwise prevented. You'll be told if Prepare succeeds or fails.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:41 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 26 March 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

D'rek, I informed Essle 3 (Liosan) who Essle 5 is (Rashan).

I don't think Tapper saw that mail, so he didn't know to do an update. Things like that should maybe be posted in a seperate thread

"So and So needs a PM about Such and Such when Blahblahblah Condition is met"


Thanks, I should've put that in the Mod Coordination thread. Any things that will need to be done later on - put a line in there indicating it. ie I had a line in there about telling the Isabelle Paix player her faction's alts once they checked in and then removed that line after I did it.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:50 PM

Kilava, on 26 March 2013 - 01:11 PM, said:

hey...what will i CF as if a finder jizzes on my face in my sleep?


if they are a faction finder = The Survivor
if they are an alt finder = Kilava
if they are a player name finder = dktorode
if they are a faction type finder = Independent
if they are a meta-role finder = The Survivor
if they are an ability finder = a list of your abilities
etc
etc
etc




Bendal Home, on 26 March 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

I would like to Day vig Ryllandaras.


Noted.

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sent to Ryll (Amon):

Path-Shaper, on 26 March 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

Your BP has been removed.

It will regenerate after the next night cycle.


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Bendal Home, on 26 March 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

Bugger... A Bp son of a bitch... What a waste of a vig. hmmm

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:52 PM

Monok Ochem, on 26 March 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

Take the credit. You almost had 100, and if not that, 101 is a great number for introductions and dalmatians.



Karosis = GardenGnome with the linking of evidence :p


Monok Ochem, on 26 March 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Really should have stuck to low posting, but didn't want to be targeted by the FM :p Hopefully no one is threatened enough to NK me...

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:58 PM

So Venge vigs Bliss and hits her BP, which should push Venge (and through him Khell) into putting the heat on Bliss even more. If they can sway the townies, or get a finder to target Bliss and then reveal her as Amon she won't likely last too long. That'll be bad for the Meyerns, but not totally devastating for them. Game-wise, I'm pleased as I do fear that Amon's ability removal and consistent recruiting is a really, really powerful role amongst so many players. A Steve the Tyrant announcement this early in the game would be hilarious, too.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:10 PM

Bendal Home, on 26 March 2013 - 02:56 PM, said:

Ugg I hate it when you act like a town member should act towards mistakes of players and refuse to let people off the hook while they make more mistakes. Then people say that you are aggressive and intentionally misrepresenting things. Fucking retarded monkeys. Misrepresenting things would be if I was attempting to stawman someone without building a quote case. Building a quote case and pointing out there mistakes and pounding on it is good town play. Man I wish I had another Vig.



Karosis, on 26 March 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

It'd be so funny if Eloth was Gnaw or Twelve.






edit, if they are lynched or night killed that is.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:31 PM

Eloth, on 26 March 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

Eloth, on 26 March 2013 - 03:19 PM, said:

Fuck this, next game I play, I'm sitting back and saying next to nothing. Every time I actually play the game, and discuss mechanics, and talk about anything, people fucking pile on a me lynch. This game isn't fun when everyone just piles on the easy target (easy cause I actually stick my neck out now and again). No one gets anywhere, and it's why scum always fucking win, cause townies are looking for stupid things like "Oh, that guy talked about FM in five posts, that seems like a lot, he MUST be scum!"

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Disregard the fact that I actually AM scum when reading the above. I'm just raging cause this is the third or fourth game straight where people pile on me in the first day or three for stupid fucking reasons like just cause I'm actually creating discussion.



Eloth, on 26 March 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

I'm going to keep trying to push a D'riss lynch, but truth be told, there just isn't much to go on for a D'riss lynch. If it comes down to it, I'll be trying to redirect the lynch to Ryl, who most likely has a LP. It sucks that I have to do that, but I'm not going down without a fight. I was really excited for this Isabelle Paix role, and now I'm not even gonna get to use it.



Karosis, on 26 March 2013 - 04:08 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 March 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

You now know that Eriksonian #1 is Tulas Shorn and Pinhead



I wonder if this is an ability he used for me to know. I have looked at that game and it is complicated I assumed there was just one pinhead but that is not true, there are multiple pinheads, so I need to go back and look at who would be the best one to be a leader.


I have prodded him on thread to see what he thinks and see if he can give me a heads up on whether to switch my vote or not.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 04:59 PM

Desra, on 26 March 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

Couple of Questions:

1. What happens if a FM tries to jump into me? is he just rebuffed? Does it count as a kill attempt? Doesn't seem fair if I have all these BP's and then I die on a single jump attempt. But I would like to know your ruling on this.

2. What happens if I am lynched. How does the CF work? I feel I am at a severe disadvantage after my first lynch. If no one else dies that night, and only I respawn won't they just vote me off the next day knowing I am a SK? (This becomes especially problematic when we get down to 5-15 people.) Was there some safeguards in place to prevent this? Early in the game It shouldn't matter too much, but down the line it could be problematic.


FM jumps are a kind of kill - BPs will prevent them from succeeding.

You are indeed vulnerable to lynching if no one else dies in the same day/night cycle, as would most everyone else be. You do have LPs, though, and some of your roles can day-kill too, which would help. But that is part of the challenge here, you really really want to avoid getting lynch-worthy attention!


Desra, on 26 March 2013 - 05:12 PM, said:

Well, I'm glad I played my 2 lynch proof roles second and third.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 05:52 PM

Nenanda, on 26 March 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

Thanks, PS! And hmmmmmmmmmmm. I'd rather not make everyone obviously switch to Ryll, as there are few of us on his train. So I suppose the other I really don't like is D'riss atm.

Though it would be a hilarious clusterfuck to switch them all to someone who hasn't even been suspected. BUT NO WAIT, I'm town. *repeats to self how I'm town*

THEN AGAIN, there are a few strange posts, like Desra being suspicious of Eloth for his speculations, but then not voting him. Or anyone. Yet. Or Mockra, who is playing quite agreeably and smooooth. But then again, "smooth" is not necessarily scummy. Ugh I don't know.


Mischief lynch - D'riss


Noted.

Nenanda, on 26 March 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

With me knowing so little, I definitely feel like my ability can cause so much confusion... but i'm town. I dont really want to do that. BLARGH.

Then again, super fun. :p

(please let me know when/if you've noted the above, thanks)





Ampelas, on 26 March 2013 - 05:02 PM, said:

I guess this will be answered as the game goes on, but I can't help but ask: How are you going to ensure that those who die aren't again lynched/killed immediately upon their resurrection?

What I mean is, say one person dies, and then a new alt appears the next day, everyone will know that new alt is the person who died. Now say they were revealed as scum previously - what's to stop town from getting in an easy lynch on scum once again?

Ok, I know it's long odds that only one person will die - but even if it's two or three, then those new alts will immediately have the focus on them, for better or worse.

Or won't they? Is this a RAFO? :p


The incremental CF mechanic partially helps to mitigate this, or at least cloud the waters enough that someone has a decent shot of talking their way out of it.

Otherwise, we're not really doing anything about it :p
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