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Bendal Home, on 26 March 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

Ok so Silchas Ruin and Eloth have 3 power roles and no RI and Ry had a BP.


Oh my god I just had a brilliant Idea. I think that I might come out tomorrow or the next day and say that I was just told from upon high that I had to remove my vote from someone. I will make it seem like someone used an action and are forcing me to remove my vote. I am sure that we had a game where that happened. People will flip out which is fun and then hopefully they will lynch the person who I was voting for.


It is a completely twisted and fucked up idea. I had better not give it to khell or he will steal it...Or we might use it on different days to lynch suspects. Ohhhhh snap.

Sounds pretty devious. Yeah there's been lots of games where vote-changing shenanigans featured, and it invariably gets a lot of on-thread attention/culture hunting.

Aranatha, on 26 March 2013 - 05:37 PM, said:

Odds are 10:1 I'll be NKed tonight.

Aranatha, on 26 March 2013 - 05:44 PM, said:

okay, next plan (probably the last)

pretend i'm town. play helpful to town. get picked up on for "scummy" play (somehow this always happens when i'm town)

Silchas Ruin, on 26 March 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:

Monok Ochem will die tonight and Ryllandaras will be lynched tomorrow

Noted! (this is his ifyouguess NA)

Ampelas, on 26 March 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 March 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 26 March 2013 - 05:02 PM, said:

I guess this will be answered as the game goes on, but I can't help but ask: How are you going to ensure that those who die aren't again lynched/killed immediately upon their resurrection?

What I mean is, say one person dies, and then a new alt appears the next day, everyone will know that new alt is the person who died. Now say they were revealed as scum previously - what's to stop town from getting in an easy lynch on scum once again?

Ok, I know it's long odds that only one person will die - but even if it's two or three, then those new alts will immediately have the focus on them, for better or worse.

Or won't they? Is this a RAFO?

The incremental CF mechanic partially helps to mitigate this, or at least cloud the waters enough that someone has a decent shot of talking their way out of it.

Otherwise, we're not really doing anything about it

So, like in every mafia game, the best way to go about winning is not dying then

Except for the Jester, and then it's a matter of dying in particular ways

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Ultama, on 26 March 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

I'm thinking Goodkinder #3 might be Desra.

Why's that?

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Fanderay, on 26 March 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:

Ok, thanks. Also, can I prepare one night and then not jump the next night? And if I don't jump the second night, is the target still prepared? i.e, could I jump the third night?

Yes, the target remains prepared. If you prepare successfully, try to jump and it fails (ie maybe you were guarded or the target had a BP) you can try to jump again the next night (ie you dont need to re-prepare).

Question @Tapps/Shin - can vanilla FMs typically have more than one person prepared at a time? I seem to think no, but can't really recall.

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Bendal Home, on 26 March 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 March 2013 - 06:42 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 26 March 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 March 2013 - 05:59 PM, said:

Sounds pretty devious. Yeah there's been lots of games where vote-changing shenanigans featured, and it invariably gets a lot of on-thread attention/culture hunting.

I am obviously playing for my faction to win. But since I only know Khell in my faction then I am only required to make sure that I don't actively or publicly try to get him lynched. Any other faction mates that happen to get caught in the cross fire are considered collateral damage to our collective brilliance.

If you win, you can say this was your golden strategy that obviously paid off. If you lose, everyone will point to this post right here as where it all went wrong

It is a fine line between brilliant and insane. I personanlly choose to straddle the line. Most people wouldn't but they suck.

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Korlat, on 26 March 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

Kill Aranatha If dead, Kill D'riss[

Noted.

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(awww poor Ment)

Korlat, on 26 March 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

And fuck you

said I was on phone

Watch your tone there, snarky, it's not me who was posting in the wrong PM thread.

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Tulas Pinhead:

Tulas Shorn, on 26 March 2013 - 07:02 PM, said:

I guess I have to name a target:

Target Nenanda/OE/Thyrllan for tomorrow night's kill

I must say this is a painful mechanic, I have to choose either a lower contributor to minimize losses or try to make someone a good NK target and pick them and hope. Very gambling oriented role, I'm not a good manipulator

Noted.

Eloth, on 26 March 2013 - 07:10 PM, said:

For the record, I am pissed about this lynch. It's yet another in a long list of "let's lynch the guy who's actually playing the game"

The last few games that I have played in, this is what has happened, and it always ends up with the last few days being full of fuck all cause all the people who actually post during a Mafia game are gone, cause it's easier to just lynch the guy who actually talks and says things cause it's easier to warp their words to make it seem like they're scum.

Fine, that's fine, so be it. But fuck it - almost every member of my entire fucking team is on my lynch train, which my leader started on me, over a discussion over the probability of the SK being a FM. It's fucking idiotic, and it happens every fucking time.

-------

In other news, I really wish I *was* the Jester, cause this would be brilliant. I did everything I could at the end there to sow as much confusion as I could before the lynch, including hammering myself. I am going to attempt to pull a lynch in my direction again tomorrow, and continue trying to give off Jester vibes, cause I think that's the only way I'm going to survive longer than Day 3. That, or enough people get killed during Night that I can hide amongst a slew of new alts, at which point I'm just going to just shut it and sit back.

Ultama, on 26 March 2013 - 07:17 PM, said:

Desra, on 26 March 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 26 March 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Tellan, on 26 March 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

Here for a picosecond

Work sucks

Back soon hopefully

Do you guys not see how scummy this post is???!!!

Vote Tellan

Do you guys see how misdirecting this post is???!!!

This seems like she might be defending Tellan. Or she is just called it out, because does look like misdirection.
It could be eitehr, so, something to keep an eye on.

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[Tapper]

Sorry. I have been down and out with a severe headache and light fever since yesterday. Will probably stay home tomorrow, too, but hopefully can then make some hours behind the computer.

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Korbas, on 26 March 2013 - 07:22 PM, said:

Prov: I use my ability on Bendal Home.

Noted.

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Eloth, on 26 March 2013 - 07:47 PM, said:

Eloth, on 26 March 2013 - 07:10 PM, said:

For the record, I am pissed about this lynch. It's yet another in a long list of "let's lynch the guy who's actually playing the game"

The last few games that I have played in, this is what has happened, and it always ends up with the last few days being full of fuck all cause all the people who actually post during a Mafia game are gone, cause it's easier to just lynch the guy who actually talks and says things cause it's easier to warp their words to make it seem like they're scum.

Fine, that's fine, so be it. But fuck it - almost every member of my entire fucking team is on my lynch train, which my leader started on me, over a discussion over the probability of the SK being a FM. It's fucking idiotic, and it happens every fucking time.

-------

In other news, I really wish I *was* the Jester, cause this would be brilliant. I did everything I could at the end there to sow as much confusion as I could before the lynch, including hammering myself. I am going to attempt to pull a lynch in my direction again tomorrow, and continue trying to give off Jester vibes, cause I think that's the only way I'm going to survive longer than Day 3. That, or enough people get killed during Night that I can hide amongst a slew of new alts, at which point I'm just going to just shut it and sit back.

Yeah, so I totes forgout about CFs... Guess I will have to hope I can hide amongst a few new alts!

Aranatha, on 26 March 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:

Welp, that was a given.

Now im juist gonna stir shit up at my leisure

respawn, pls

Ok, done.

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Desra, on 26 March 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

Well, thats frustrating.

Desra, on 26 March 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

Will I be told if I am attacked at night?

As Sylar? Yes.

Monok Ochem, on 26 March 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

Cool. Also, I wasn't sure what I was going to do with that abiility. Looks like Eloth was going for a similar tact as myself. I win

Korlat, on 26 March 2013 - 08:06 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 March 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

Korlat, on 26 March 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

And fuck you

said I was on phone

Watch your tone there, snarky, it's not me who was posting in the wrong PM thread.

I'm having a bad day. And I shouldn't be taking it out on you.

I posted my kill order in the thread labeled:
Goodk #s 1/2 - Killers Convo


The first post in that conversation is:

Path-Shaper, on 25 March 2013 - 03:32 AM, said:

Please use this thread for your off-thread killers conversation, posting only with the alt that is currently active.

So please fucking excuse me for thinking that's where I was supposed to put the fucking KILL order.

When you are paired, you debate and post action choices in the paired conversation thread, because you need to work together. There is no mention of your ability being a paired ability in any way. There is no reason why I would force you to post your kill choices in the lover convo, as perhaps you would not want to show that to your partner or whatever. This game has 81 alts and I'm not fucking searching through every PM in the P-S inbox to find everyone's provisionals scattered to the four winds. Instead of even indicating to you that you had put it in the wrong thread, I could've just ignored it, but I didn't. I guess I should have.

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Galayn Lord, on 26 March 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

Nice, I figured there would be a lot of random death going around early, which is why I started with my BP role. Good call, so far.

Ay Estos, on 26 March 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

Guh, now let's see if Aranatha/Bek lets me get away with claiming I was the Jester. *fingers crossed*

Ampelas, on 26 March 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

I can't help but think that Ay Estos is actually Eloth, hoping to pass off as Aranatha/Jester so we leave them alone for the rest of the game.


But it's probably Aranatha

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Tulas, learning the kill is still headed towards Nenanda:

Tulas Shorn, on 26 March 2013 - 08:15 PM, said:

that sucks

Korbas, on 26 March 2013 - 08:17 PM, said:

The reason I'm being dodgy with Rashan is chance of recruitment.

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Rashan, on 26 March 2013 - 08:24 PM, said:

Updated Befriend list Night 2:

Befriend:

Liosan, Bendal Home, Ampelas, Aranatha, Demelain, Eloth, Fanderay, Karosis, Korlat, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Prazec Goul, Ryllandaras, Skintick, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

noted!

Karosis, on 26 March 2013 - 08:31 PM, said:

I'm happy with the results of day and night one.

Monok Ochem, on 26 March 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

Now the question is, how do we proceed when we know who the resurrected individuals are. The jester is a non-entity (if that is indeed the jester) while he who was known as Eloth is still a potential scum and worth lynching again (to get more information at least).

Part of the problem is that as with my role and Eloth's role, the longer you leave us untouched, the stronger we get. And that means other people have similar properties, need to be found, and then cut back down for size.

I think I'll remain background a little longer. I'm just glad I have some extra protection now.

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So, a pretty quiet night 1, but that's what happens when only 11 players submit provisionals (with a handful more having no night actions), plus a few of the ones who did hitting BPs. For town healers or guards, probably wouldnt have changed much, but for the scum roles like Amon or the FM to not put in an action, that is a huge deal and could cost them the game. Makes things a lot tougher for Blend with only two respawns, as well. I like his idea of pretending to be the Jester but I think Ment isn't going to let him get away with it (after all, what does Ment have to lose?)

And of course we can all appreciate the humour of Ment dying on night 1

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Korlat, on 26 March 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:

I'm sorry. I was an asshole and simply vented at the only other 'person' available to me. That was not only rude and unnecessary but just plain stupid: yelling at a faceless person on the intertubes is just a waste of time and effort. And making that person read the yelling wastes their time and just makes them pissed for a truly idiotic reason.

Please feel free to scream back. I owe you at least one of those. Probably 2.

This is likely a bad time to make a suggestion, but the very first thing I learned when Tapper let me behind the scenes of ToD was that the PM titles should be more descriptive.

Would it be easier for you to follow if I submitted NA orders in a thread titled:

• Action (night) - GK#1 - <current alt name>
• GK#1 - NA - <current alt name> - Gnaw

or a variation on those?

Easiest for me is to keep it in this main role PM.

Ryllandaras, on 26 March 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

I read that I could only do it once every two nights... So thought I had to wait one...

**re-reads PM**

bad phrasing on my part. The recruitment part works every 2 nights, but you can always do the erasure thingy (same as it was in the original game, just without the coin flipping)

Tellan, on 26 March 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

Day Kill on Nenanda please, soon as you possibly can

Noted.

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Ay Estos, on 26 March 2013 - 09:45 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 March 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

Ay Estos, on 26 March 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Grrr, the only reference to Jesus I can find in old games is Buddy Jesus in the Dice Game (37.5 I think? - RPG game where you have to act like certain forum members?). I *need* to find the role so I can confirm the abilities if anyone asks. If I can't find it, hopefully it's one of the games where the roles weren't posted.

Doesn't the search function find anything?

Like every Mafia game ever, seeing as people say Jesus Christ all the time when they're angry. LoL

Ay Estos, on 26 March 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 26 March 2013 - 09:35 PM, said:

I'm kind of agreeing with you here... Ay is giving us way too much information, and It sounds more like bullshit

UGH, worst, fucking, team leader ever!!!! LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!

Ay Estos, on 26 March 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 26 March 2013 - 10:00 PM, said:

You seem awfully certain of yourselves. What's to say that even if Ay is lying, and they used to be Eloth rather than Aranatha, that they/Eloth are not town?


Edit: Does that sentence make sense? This multiple alts thing is going to get very confusing. Basically, how do we know Eloth wasn't town, and therefore, if we go by Tellan's suspicions, that Ay, too, is town - and attempting to claim Jester and harmless so that we leave them alone?


By the way, I don't believe that myself. I think Ay is telling the truth - but we'll see what Bek has to say.

Heh, if I manage to pull this Jester thing off, when Amp sees that I was Eloth, he's gonna be kicking himself. Specially after he was such a big pusher of lynching me over the 3 roles with abilities slip.

Ay Estos, on 26 March 2013 - 10:10 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 26 March 2013 - 10:09 PM, said:

Just FYI:

Jesus:
Hey there, Jesus! God's sent you down for a second coming, only this time things are different. Considering how performing miracles left and right got you killed last time, now you're just like any other hippie out there. Too bad God forgot half the world worships you now—oops. Looks like you'll just have to make do. But hey, you're Jesus, right? You can do whatever the fuck you want! As long as you don't get crucified again; dying really sucks…
Maybe if you asked God?
You are a jester. If you are lynched, God smites everyone and you win the game.
If you are NKed or vigged, you lose. =( Sorry, Jesus.
You will return as Not Guilty when the subject of a find.

THANK YOU MONOK!!!!

Desra, on 26 March 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

Before I put this in... What happens if someone puts in a kill order before me and we both kill the same person. So I would or would not absorb powers? Actually, screw it. Just put this in.
Provisional

Kill Bek Okhan

if he is lynched or dead

Kill Korbas

If you and another person kill the same target and there's nothing that would make one of them happen before the other, I would resolve it as you both count as killing them, so yes you would still get the abilities.

Action noted

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Ryllandaras, on 26 March 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

oh so i can remove bending every night?

Ryllandaras, on 26 March 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

can I have a remove bending from last night as a day action today? I'd like to "Remove Bending" Korlat.

Sadly no. But you'll know to use it every night from now on!

Ryllandaras, on 27 March 2013 - 02:21 AM, said:

Curses! I blame YOU PATHSHAPER!

Sucks that I totally misunderstood you

The wording of the mafia 100 clarification by itself is pretty bad, but taken with the original wording I think it at least should've lead to you questioning it. Oh well, live and learn for both of us I think. Sorry about that.

Fanderay, on 26 March 2013 - 11:22 PM, said:

Damn, day ended earlier than I had expected! I was hoping to get a response to my questions before I chose. Such is life.

I'll decide tonight who I want to prepare

Monok Ochem, on 27 March 2013 - 12:22 AM, said:

More that is interesting, Eloth was a role from the same game I was from. So some roles double dip in the same game.

Well yeah! 81 roles from only the 70 numbered games we have on this forum and the minis in-between? That'd be really hard to get only one role from any one game!

Monok Ochem, on 27 March 2013 - 02:24 AM, said:

Lol, don't have to get all worked up PS. I'm just mulling over the game. I think nothing less of you for double dipping.

I know!

Besides, there are many games that have several memorable roles and we wouldn't want to miss out on those!

Omtose, on 27 March 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

Fuck me - provisionals are important -

Night 2 stalk Shadow

Im an idiot.

Noted and dont worry it was just one night!

Ay Estos, on 26 March 2013 - 10:48 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 26 March 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

Here but not really.

V. Busy, having a shit day (dying didn't help), and phone dying.

Back in 3 hours

Uh oh, now the moment of truth. Gonna be furiously F5ing till he does something.

Ay Estos, on 27 March 2013 - 12:52 AM, said:

OMG, BEK, I FUCKING LOVE YOU!!!!!!!

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Bek Okhan, on 27 March 2013 - 12:31 AM, said:

much obliged

Bek Okhan, on 27 March 2013 - 12:46 AM, said:

Monok Ochem is Gust

Kilava is for sure dkt.



I need to find the Dude and extract vengeance.

Bek Okhan, on 27 March 2013 - 12:47 AM, said:

still not sure what to do about Eloth claiming to be me.



for now, i'm just gonna neither confirm nor deny.

Bek Okhan, on 27 March 2013 - 01:00 AM, said:

Denesmet was the first to point out I might be a jester.



DAYKILL DENESMET WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE

Noted!


Also, fyi, as you may have noticed since you have lost you don't get the Harlequin ability to chat with the Survivor. Because you could do awful mean things to him

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Silchas Ruin, on 27 March 2013 - 02:35 AM, said:

Why do all my old roles keep dying? Zahska, Tarrlok...

Hahaha, I guess it's good you have new roles then?

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Denesmet, on 27 March 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

Well this is fucking dumb. I just die with no hint as to who did it?

Bah. Bah I say.

As opposed to all the other mafia games where you are told...?

Path-Shaper, on 27 March 2013 - 02:45 AM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 27 March 2013 - 02:38 AM, said:

Makes me twitchy not knowing which of the three I am speaking too. Who's this?

Still D'rek. It's been me all day. Shin and Tapper are better at identifying themselves than me.

Path-Shaper, on 27 March 2013 - 02:55 AM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 27 March 2013 - 02:47 AM, said:

I figured. Just checking

Not for much longer though, it is almost my bedtime!

Monok Ochem, on 27 March 2013 - 03:01 AM, said:

Well, sweet dreams then. At least the deaths are starting to rack up. I was beginning to wonder...

Haha, yeah I'm happy about that too! Otherwise this'll last longer than Survivor...

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Denesmet, on 27 March 2013 - 03:05 AM, said:

I'm just frustrated I got killed day 2 before I could even participate. Which is stupid. The game should tell dead people who killed them, that would be awesome! kind of like getting into SH then being pulled back to your new alt after only finding out who did you in.

Too late to change it now, but it would be awesome none the less.

I'm also frustrated I got day vigged before I could use my only killing role

Well, consider in a regular game this could happen and you'd be out permanently now, and be happy you get to keep playing some more! Also, you might steal a kill ability as Locke, so not all hope is lost!

Silchas Ruin, on 27 March 2013 - 03:13 AM, said:

Is my number (4) indicative of my importance in the town or just an organization tool?

Mostly just an organization tool. It's pretty hard to predict what players will end up being more or less important, especially in the town.

Bek Okhan, on 27 March 2013 - 03:25 AM, said:

oh, well. I'll just do awful mean things to everyone else.



Especially Eloth, because they got lynched instead of me.

Skintick, on 27 March 2013 - 03:33 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 March 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

Quote

Passive Power: you will learn the identity of every single recruit (and non-recruits, essentially every player) in your faction, and you will know when they are recruited by another faction. You cannot be recruited by other factions.

The other Meyern players are:

Ryllandaras
Fanderay
Ay Estos

... OK, if Eloth became Ay Estos (seems moderately likely), didn't whoever played Eloth just completely fucking team-sabotage with this post?:

Quote

The worst part of this lynch train is that half my team are the ones who more or less started it.

Chew on that for a while.

Because the first two votes were ... Ryllandaras and Fanderay. WTF? If Ay Estos turns out to formerly be Eloth, I'm going to be seriously pissed about that post.

Actually, my whole team seems to determine to kill itself. Ryll and Fanderay (IIRC) both picked up heat on Day 1, and led the vote against Eloth. Maybe there's some off-thread comms going on in my team to explain it - Eloth being a sacrifice, or something. Or neither knows that Eloth was on our team, and Ryllandaras and Fanderay are really unlucky Lovers who chose the worst possible coordinated target. Because if Eloth/Ay Estos knows their entire team, they're probably the #1.

And I'm probably going to have to vote for Ay Estos if a train gets rolling, although this is a really easy game to lay low, but I certainly don't have a good argument against an obvious Day 2 lynch.

On the "lay low" note, Ryll and Fand don't seem to have caught on to the fact that low posters aren't obvious targets with such a large crowd. Scum can actually low post pretty safely, at least for now. The only real threat is from random NKs and DKs, more likely random vigs than anything.

Ay Estos, on 27 March 2013 - 03:30 AM, said:

So, if I give someone the ninja ability, they can technically use that at any time during the day or night right?

It is a night power (hence why it says "Night Power")

Ay Estos, on 27 March 2013 - 03:35 AM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 27 March 2013 - 03:29 AM, said:

sure you would. All it takes is looking who uses what to quote stuff.


more to the point, less snarky--we should lynch who we think is scum.

DO we think Michelle Paix (the Syndicate from Spycraft) was scum?

I fucking love Bek so much right now. I don't know for sure, but I think he just used Michelle Paix instead of Isabelle Paix on purpose to make it seem even more like he's not me.

That being said, I am worried that Bek might be using the confusion to hide as well, so I'm going to try to keep a good eye on him.

If I don't get lynched today, and the ninja ability is usable during the day, tonight I plan on giving myself the ninja ability. If I get close to a lynch tomorrow, I will ninja someone. If I don't, then I will give Longinus or Casca a BP tomorrow night, then ninja someone the following Day.

If the ninja ability cannot be used during the day, then the plan is to give the BP to one of my team mates tonight, then the ninja to me if I'm still alive tomorrow.