[Tulas Shorn]

Ah, crossposting...

Galain, on 20 November 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

Emur, is there something more than formatting going on with you? Are you not allowed to speak about something?

Good enough for me. I made the mistake of asking PS what I could say and was told "only if they ask you".

Yeah, Fener got me with the can't vote unless pay worship thing also.

Since when is that happening to you? The question goes to all players who have to pay the worship.

Since dawn of Day 4. You have to pay at dawn.

[Ruse]

So that's 4 players claiming this? If that's all true this has to be some sort of "Once per game target 4 players of your choice" or so ability because if he's using this every day on a new player it is ludicrously strong.

[Galain]

Emurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

Galain, on 20 November 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

Emur, is there something more than formatting going on with you? Are you not allowed to speak about something?

Good enough for me. I made the mistake of asking PS what I could say and was told "only if they ask you".

Yeah, Fener got me with the can't vote unless pay worship thing also.

Since when is that happening to you? The question goes to all players who have to pay the worship.

Yesterday afternoon 3:25 EST

Was that also dawn day 4 like Tulas claims?
What I want to know is whether it is something that has been slowly built up or if everyone got that restriction at the same time.

[Ruse]

Ok and seriously? You don't have to repeat yourselves in the request thread! There's 5 Labourer requests in 7 lines. That's just stupid.

[Ruse]

Galain, on 20 November 2012 - 07:03 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

Galain, on 20 November 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

Emur, is there something more than formatting going on with you? Are you not allowed to speak about something?

Good enough for me. I made the mistake of asking PS what I could say and was told "only if they ask you".

Yeah, Fener got me with the can't vote unless pay worship thing also.

Since when is that happening to you? The question goes to all players who have to pay the worship.

Yesterday afternoon 3:25 EST

Was that also dawn day 4 like Tulas claims?
What I want to know is whether it is something that has been slowly built up or if everyone got that restriction at the same time.

The way Amp came out of nowhere with the claim today I'd say it's likely he wasn't affected by it until today either.

[Tulas Shorn]

Path-Shaper, on 20 November 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

With the anticipated arrival of the Golden Standard's armies, a shaman of a local horse tribe raised a war standard, making the call for his tribe to gather and match their steel against the Khanates. Within weeks, thirty thousand warriors had gathered, and more were coming. Each of them received a blessing, and a religious fervor woke in the army. When two more tribes allied themselves and declared that their pantheon would join the struggle, all hell broke lose. The Nepeth told me they'd happily solve the issue - in exchange for loosening my laws when it came to them. The House of Iron forwarded a contract price. The Golden Standard sent me two gilded skulls, as a show of intent. In the meantime, the craze that spread through the tribes increased, and for a few short months, the Northern Desert was called The Holy Sands by anyone who had a thing for tribal mysticism.

The Northern Desert is Sacrosanct.

Shit, more crossposting, missed this entirely. So I'm guessing Fener is doing this based on activity on thread... I am actually more interested in doubling up on a Karosis lynch to see if he really is LP two days in a row, but he could just be on the Northern Desert too. Sigh.

Remove Vote
Vote Karosis

I know I can't vote for Fener so I'm leaving my vote here for now.

[Atrahal]

Tulas Shorn, on 20 November 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

I don't have a ton of time but I will say that I can independently confirm this. I also cannot vote Fener because I refused to pay him 3 Worship at dawn today. The fact that multiple people are being targeted by him with this ability almost makes me wish I had paid the Worship so I could vote him. I still prefer a Karosis lynch overall but he was LP yesterday and I have doubts that Fener can also whip out an LP. Just to throw some WIFOM in the mix, if Fener starts picking up votes and then suddenly a new tile becomes Sacrosanct, if he's collecting Worship from people then he can probably afford that Tile Action and he may become LP at that point. The WIFOM is that it could just be anybody throwing up a Sacrosanct on any tile to discourage us from lynching Fener OR to encourage us to test the theory so they themselves avoid a lynch or have more time or anything. Mmmm, WIFOM. No guarantees in Mafia.

Just to test this, I'll

Remove Vote
Vote Fener

I better not get modkilled or anything like that for this....it's my understanding more that my votes for Fener don't count, rather than I actually can't "try" to vote him on thread or else I face immediate modkill for breaking this restriction. So I'm doing this to prove that in the next P-S update, my vote for Fener will not count because I did not pay him the Worship he wanted, which should be enough evidence that I'm not lying and neither is Amp and this is a pretty good reason for other people to vote Fener, since our previous targets (Tellan/Karosis) have been LP so far.

But I am so down for a Karosis lynch it's not even funny, for the same reasons as yesterday. If he's LP for days in a row, well, fuck that.

Yeah, you'll probably have to wait a long while for the next update, as PS has gone away.

The amount of people this has happened to - all at the same time it seems - is surprising, and worrying.

I'm torn. I think Fener is the one who did the Sacro in the Northern Desert, because he was the likeliest one to be lynched off at the time. I think Tellan is likely to do the same thing if the votes start piling up on him. Karosis claims he can beat off being lynched again.

For me, it's between Fener and Karosis right now. Fener because this can't vote thing could escalate really quickly, and Karosis because of the three I think he is the most vulnerable and therefore the one we have the highest chance of lynching. As a GoB member, I don't think he has access to the same amount of resources as others.

I want to know - do others think that Fener put up that Sacro in the Northern Desert?

[Ruse]

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

I want to know - do others think that Fener put up that Sacro in the Northern Desert?

Absolutely

[Emurlahn]

Tulas Shorn, on 20 November 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Telas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:

Telas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

I'm bored.
No one here?

I've just got here. So, who wants to make the first move?
The way I see it, we currently have two targets: Tellan and Karosis. Who you go for kinda depends on where you stand with the alliance, doesn't it?
There are actually a few more options on both sides, as several people have made it fairly plain where their allegiances lie, but these are the two most prominent members.

The way I see it,we have some info about both of them.So it would be better if we try and get info from someone other than these two,someone we mostly don't have any info on.Like Fener.

Ah, the third way. Of course, that poses the risk that you end up lynching someone in your own faction unknowingly. That will also be true for some with Karosis and Tellan too, of course, but at least it would be knowingly, and, most likely by that point, unavoidably.

Fener is the lowest poster and has not contributed much. This is a guess but I think if we target Tellan he will make the place Sacrosanct again., I think he has left it open for us to lynch Karosis today but if we go for him he will create the Sacrosanct. I cannot vote Fener unfortunately. I received something saying that unless I pay 3 Worship every day until the end of the game I cannot vote for him.

I don't have a ton of time but I will say that I can independently confirm this. I also cannot vote Fener because I refused to pay him 3 Worship at dawn today. The fact that multiple people are being targeted by him with this ability almost makes me wish I had paid the Worship so I could vote him. I still prefer a Karosis lynch overall but he was LP yesterday and I have doubts that Fener can also whip out an LP. Just to throw some WIFOM in the mix, if Fener starts picking up votes and then suddenly a new tile becomes Sacrosanct, if he's collecting Worship from people then he can probably afford that Tile Action and he may become LP at that point. The WIFOM is that it could just be anybody throwing up a Sacrosanct on any tile to discourage us from lynching Fener OR to encourage us to test the theory so they themselves avoid a lynch or have more time or anything. Mmmm, WIFOM. No guarantees in Mafia.

Just to test this, I'll

Remove Vote
Vote Fener

I better not get modkilled or anything like that for this....it's my understanding more that my votes for Fener don't count, rather than I actually can't "try" to vote him on thread or else I face immediate modkill for breaking this restriction. So I'm doing this to prove that in the next P-S update, my vote for Fener will not count because I did not pay him the Worship he wanted, which should be enough evidence that I'm not lying and neither is Amp and this is a pretty good reason for other people to vote Fener, since our previous targets (Tellan/Karosis) have been LP so far.

But I am so down for a Karosis lynch it's not even funny, for the same reasons as yesterday. If he's LP for days in a row, well, fuck that.

Mine (and I assume they all had the same wording) says "may not".

[Anomandaris]

When I said someone made a rude gesture at me I meant that I got a PM from PS saying "someone made a rude gesture at you".

[Emurlahn]

Ruse, on 20 November 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

I want to know - do others think that Fener put up that Sacro in the Northern Desert?

Absolutely

Ditto

[Tulas Shorn]

Ruse, on 20 November 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

I want to know - do others think that Fener put up that Sacro in the Northern Desert?

Absolutely

Yeah, I just said this above, but I agree. No proof but it seems likely.

[Atrahal]

Anomandaris, on 20 November 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

When I said someone made a rude gesture at me I meant that I got a PM from PS saying "someone made a rude gesture at you".

Hmm. That sounds to me like possibly the start of someone's ability - a first-stage targetting?

[Silanah]

What confuses me is this: why would Fener use his ability this dawn? A few people have publicly suspected him of being Qadi, but by using the ability he kinda made himself a target.


And Emur couldn't tell us about it unless asked specifically. Why could amp come out and tell us out of the blue?

This just stinks to me.

[Galain]

Anomandaris, on 20 November 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

When I said someone made a rude gesture at me I meant that I got a PM from PS saying "someone made a rude gesture at you".

Does that gesture has consequences for you?

[Anomandaris]

Galain, on 20 November 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 20 November 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

When I said someone made a rude gesture at me I meant that I got a PM from PS saying "someone made a rude gesture at you".

Does that gesture has consequences for you?

I have no clue

[Atrahal]

Ruse, on 20 November 2012 - 07:03 PM, said:

Ok and seriously? You don't have to repeat yourselves in the request thread! There's 5 Labourer requests in 7 lines. That's just stupid.

Yeah, I saw that The funny thing is, there ARE labourers for sale on the market.

[Ruse]

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 20 November 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

When I said someone made a rude gesture at me I meant that I got a PM from PS saying "someone made a rude gesture at you".

Hmm. That sounds to me like possibly the start of someone's ability - a first-stage targetting?

A Duel a la slapping someone with a glove?

[Atrahal]

Silanah, on 20 November 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

What confuses me is this: why would Fener use his ability this dawn? A few people have publicly suspected him of being Qadi, but by using the ability he kinda made himself a target.


And Emur couldn't tell us about it unless asked specifically. Why could amp come out and tell us out of the blue?

This just stinks to me.

I'm thinking Ampelas did have to do it the same way as Emur, but forgot to do so.

As for your other question, I don't know. Part of me thinks it's not Fener at all who did it, but someone wanting to protect/frame him.

[Tulas Shorn]

Emurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 20 November 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Telas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:

Telas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

I'm bored.
No one here?

I've just got here. So, who wants to make the first move?
The way I see it, we currently have two targets: Tellan and Karosis. Who you go for kinda depends on where you stand with the alliance, doesn't it?
There are actually a few more options on both sides, as several people have made it fairly plain where their allegiances lie, but these are the two most prominent members.

The way I see it,we have some info about both of them.So it would be better if we try and get info from someone other than these two,someone we mostly don't have any info on.Like Fener.

Ah, the third way. Of course, that poses the risk that you end up lynching someone in your own faction unknowingly. That will also be true for some with Karosis and Tellan too, of course, but at least it would be knowingly, and, most likely by that point, unavoidably.

Fener is the lowest poster and has not contributed much. This is a guess but I think if we target Tellan he will make the place Sacrosanct again., I think he has left it open for us to lynch Karosis today but if we go for him he will create the Sacrosanct. I cannot vote Fener unfortunately. I received something saying that unless I pay 3 Worship every day until the end of the game I cannot vote for him.

I don't have a ton of time but I will say that I can independently confirm this. I also cannot vote Fener because I refused to pay him 3 Worship at dawn today. The fact that multiple people are being targeted by him with this ability almost makes me wish I had paid the Worship so I could vote him. I still prefer a Karosis lynch overall but he was LP yesterday and I have doubts that Fener can also whip out an LP. Just to throw some WIFOM in the mix, if Fener starts picking up votes and then suddenly a new tile becomes Sacrosanct, if he's collecting Worship from people then he can probably afford that Tile Action and he may become LP at that point. The WIFOM is that it could just be anybody throwing up a Sacrosanct on any tile to discourage us from lynching Fener OR to encourage us to test the theory so they themselves avoid a lynch or have more time or anything. Mmmm, WIFOM. No guarantees in Mafia.

Just to test this, I'll

Remove Vote
Vote Fener

I better not get modkilled or anything like that for this....it's my understanding more that my votes for Fener don't count, rather than I actually can't "try" to vote him on thread or else I face immediate modkill for breaking this restriction. So I'm doing this to prove that in the next P-S update, my vote for Fener will not count because I did not pay him the Worship he wanted, which should be enough evidence that I'm not lying and neither is Amp and this is a pretty good reason for other people to vote Fener, since our previous targets (Tellan/Karosis) have been LP so far.

But I am so down for a Karosis lynch it's not even funny, for the same reasons as yesterday. If he's LP for days in a row, well, fuck that.

Mine (and I assume they all had the same wording) says "may not".

I'm not going to discuss publicly the wording of what P-S said to me, but I imagined it would work like being guarded; you submit an action, it just doesn't go through because of someone else's action on you. But I already removed my vote, so if any shit goes down because of my vote, I will be quite unhappy, as I would not have even bothered to try it if I had seen that more than just Amp had received the same notice. Stupid crossposting.