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Game Thread: Tales of the Desert 1.0 The Crossroads of Ishktar

#1161 User is offline   Karosis 

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:43 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Vote Karosis

Because that seems the course of action most likely to get the requisite number of votes for a lynch right now.


Voting Tellan would be just as likely to get 'the requisite number of votes for a lynch' as voting for me does.

No worries though, I'll simply note that someone bought 6 worship real fast on the bazaar this morning.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:45 PM

View PostSilanah, on 20 November 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

What confuses me is this: why would Fener use his ability this dawn? A few people have publicly suspected him of being Qadi, but by using the ability he kinda made himself a target.


And Emur couldn't tell us about it unless asked specifically. Why could amp come out and tell us out of the blue?

This just stinks to me.


I debated whether to keep silent or not and let us go for tellan or Karosis but I didn't like that he did it, I got targeted by him which was a huge mistake, I wouldn't have went for him otherwise. It said Fener is a mage, you cannot vote for him yadda yadda yadda.

I do think he is on the northern desert tile. Which sucks.

Out of the there I believe Karosis to be the most vulnerable right now

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:47 PM

View PostKarosis, on 20 November 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Vote Karosis

Because that seems the course of action most likely to get the requisite number of votes for a lynch right now.


Voting Tellan would be just as likely to get 'the requisite number of votes for a lynch' as voting for me does.

No worries though, I'll simply note that someone bought 6 worship real fast on the bazaar this morning.


Lol oh that someone.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:53 PM

View PostRuse, on 20 November 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 20 November 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Vote Karosis

Because that seems the course of action most likely to get the requisite number of votes for a lynch right now.


Voting Tellan would be just as likely to get 'the requisite number of votes for a lynch' as voting for me does.

No worries though, I'll simply note that someone bought 6 worship real fast on the bazaar this morning.


Lol oh that someone.


He certainly is crafty.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:57 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 20 November 2012 - 07:45 PM, said:

...but I didn't like that he did it, I got targeted by him which was a huge mistake, I wouldn't have went for him otherwise. It said Fener is a mage, you cannot vote for him yadda yadda yadda.



ditto

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:00 PM

So we can't lynch Fener. We won't be able to lynch Karo because he grabbed up all that worship.

Did Tellan already make the Nepeth Empire sacrosanct again today?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:05 PM

View PostRuse, on 20 November 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

So we can't lynch Fener. We won't be able to lynch Karo because he grabbed up all that worship.

Did Tellan already make the Nepeth Empire sacrosanct again today?


If Karosis is forced to make a tile sacro, we learn two things. His location and that his LP is not coming from the Honor Guard. Which would mean he's not Atif.

Something Tellan said earlier leads me to believe that he won't make his tile sacro unless he is the target. (That is assuming that we actually are right in saying he's the one who made the Empire sacro in the first place. His lynch may have failed due to some other reason.)

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:06 PM

View PostRuse, on 20 November 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

So we can't lynch Fener. We won't be able to lynch Karo because he grabbed up all that worship.

Did Tellan already make the Nepeth Empire sacrosanct again today?


Not yet, thus why my vote is still there.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:08 PM

Ok I have a couple of minutes. I would just like to point out that you guys are missing a lot of blatant things. If I was a mage (which I am not) then it would stand to reason that I would generate magic. If a mage generates magic then he could turn it into worship via a

Prayer Shrine
Production Cost: 3 Sandstone, 2 Marble, 1 Monument, 2 Bricks, 1 Worship, 1 Livestock, 5000 dinar
Day only: 1 Gemstones → 1 Worship
Day only: 1 Magic → 1 Worship
Day only: 1 Slaves → 1 Worship

If a mage was on one of the tiles that is also a

A Place of Worship (2 Worship)Whenever a player produces Magic or Worship, he produces 1 extra Magic and/or Worship. This includes Magic/Worship generated by Retainers and Items.
NB: this goes once per action, so Dawn only: once per day/night cycle, produce 2 Magic (Mystic Altar) would produce 2+1 = 3 Magic.
Prayer Shrine on the other hand (Day only: 1 Magic --> 1 Worship) would produce 1 Magic --> 1+1 Worship = 2 Worship every single time 1 Magic gets converted.


So basically trying to lynch a mage who is one a tile with a place of worship is a complete and total waste of time. I am not a mage. I have no idea how you geniuses manged not to see this. Tellan is probably a mage.


Edit: because I hate html code in my posts.

This post has been edited by Fener: 20 November 2012 - 08:09 PM


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:08 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 20 November 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

So we can't lynch Fener. We won't be able to lynch Karo because he grabbed up all that worship.

Did Tellan already make the Nepeth Empire sacrosanct again today?


If Karosis is forced to make a tile sacro, we learn two things. His location and that his LP is not coming from the Honor Guard. Which would mean he's not Atif.

Something Tellan said earlier leads me to believe that he won't make his tile sacro unless he is the target. (That is assuming that we actually are right in saying he's the one who made the Empire sacro in the first place. His lynch may have failed due to some other reason.)


You're going on the assumption that I'm not the one who made the Northern Desert Sacrosanct, here. Careful with assumptions! :twoguns:

I can't see any reason why anyone else would have made the Nepeth tile Sacrosant. Tellan is the only one who was garnering heat when it happened, and he all but admitted that he did it again on the following day, if I remember correctly. I know it's another assumption, but there's a lot of evidence pointing that way.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:10 PM

Meh I don't care much about his location. If he is indeed a thief he probably doesn't mind moving around much (as opposed to say the Khans who probably want to camp out on the horse plains as much as possible) and so getting him to reveal his location won't do much good. I'd rather learn more from someone else so with that in mind.

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Vote Spite


because he hasn't done a damn thing on-thread all game as far as I'm concerned and as such is a complete cypher.

Plus he's a filthy low-poster.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:17 PM

View PostRuse, on 20 November 2012 - 08:10 PM, said:

Meh I don't care much about his location. If he is indeed a thief he probably doesn't mind moving around much (as opposed to say the Khans who probably want to camp out on the horse plains as much as possible) and so getting him to reveal his location won't do much good. I'd rather learn more from someone else so with that in mind.

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because he hasn't done a damn thing on-thread all game as far as I'm concerned and as such is a complete cypher.

Plus he's a filthy low-poster.


Seeing as Tellan is likely to throw up another Sacrosanct, and seeing as I obviously know a lynch on me is a waste, I'm willing to go this way.

remove vote
vote Spite


I can't really think of anything useful that Spite has said. I'm gonna go see if I can dig anything interesting up.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:20 PM

View PostFener, on 20 November 2012 - 08:08 PM, said:

Ok I have a couple of minutes. I would just like to point out that you guys are missing a lot of blatant things. If I was a mage (which I am not) then it would stand to reason that I would generate magic. If a mage generates magic then he could turn it into worship via a

Prayer Shrine
Production Cost: 3 Sandstone, 2 Marble, 1 Monument, 2 Bricks, 1 Worship, 1 Livestock, 5000 dinar
Day only: 1 Gemstones → 1 Worship
Day only: 1 Magic → 1 Worship
Day only: 1 Slaves → 1 Worship

If a mage was on one of the tiles that is also a

A Place of Worship (2 Worship)Whenever a player produces Magic or Worship, he produces 1 extra Magic and/or Worship. This includes Magic/Worship generated by Retainers and Items.
NB: this goes once per action, so Dawn only: once per day/night cycle, produce 2 Magic (Mystic Altar) would produce 2+1 = 3 Magic.
Prayer Shrine on the other hand (Day only: 1 Magic --> 1 Worship) would produce 1 Magic --> 1+1 Worship = 2 Worship every single time 1 Magic gets converted.


So basically trying to lynch a mage who is one a tile with a place of worship is a complete and total waste of time. I am not a mage. I have no idea how you geniuses manged not to see this. Tellan is probably a mage.


Edit: because I hate html code in my posts.


Well yes obviously but how does this do anything to disprove you are a mage? We've got two or three people saying they have information that says otherwise and here you are tooting a system that would make you very lynch resistant (though I imagine any mage also needs magic for their abilities and so has to choose between being LP and actually doing something).

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:21 PM

View PostSpite, on 19 November 2012 - 09:44 AM, said:

Checking up atm.

Atm the people weve got who are "outed" atm to my mind are Telann (with a few others i suspect) and Karosis.

Right now they both seem like we may not be able to lynch them. Telann because the same tile is sacrosanct again and Karosis because of his claim to be unlynchable.

My opinion right now is that Telann or possibly others on his tile have a pretty powerful worship producing ability to do the sacrosanct 2 days runnning so should probably be targeted quickly because we dont want to set a precedent that that one tile is sacrosanct always (and judging by the worship on the bazaar that could easily happen) but we cant lynch him so i think at the first opportunity we should aim that way
Karosis on the other hand im unsure about, he claims that a lynch on him wouldnt work but then he was guarded by PS for his reveal so its quite possible that right now he is in fact lynchable. If this is the case and he dooes have an ability to protect himself from lynch then it makes sense to lynch him now when he's guarded and might not be able to use it.

So for this reason im going to

Vote Karosis

because fuck revealing lynch proof :twoguns:


Unless I have missed something, this was Spite's last post.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:22 PM

View PostTapper, on 03 November 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

The Northern Desert. players on this tile can only be targeted by players who are also located on this tile.
Bazaar Rights: Until the end of the game, The Bazaar can now be used by players on this tile.
A Place of Worship: Whenever a player produces Magic or Worship, he produces 1 extra Magic and/or Worship. This includes Magic/Worship generated by Retainers and Items.
Slaver Camp: Until the end of the game, once per day, each player at this tile can produce 2 Slaves for free, or 1 good from the following list: Wood, Sandstone, Mud, Metal or Livestock, their choice.


@Fener

We are assuming that you are the one who put the bazaar rights on ND because it happened 15 minutes after you logged on.

People have recieved PMs from PS that say you are a mage.

ND got sacro a few hours ago just after you got a couple of votes.

Now you pop in and say

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So basically trying to lynch a mage who is one a tile with a place of worship is a complete and total waste of time. I am not a mage. I have no idea how you geniuses manged not to see this.


If you are not a mage, then why go to the effort of pointing out what a sweet position "somebody" on the ND tile is enjoying.

If somebody is framing you, it would mean they started on day 1. And they have an ability that prevents people from voting for you. And that said ability has the power to put your name in the PM from PS.

And you only pop up when people are talking about you. That alone is suspicious play.

So why do you wonder why we "geniuses" are picking on you? If it's a frame, it's a damn good one.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:26 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 03 November 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

The Northern Desert. players on this tile can only be targeted by players who are also located on this tile.
Bazaar Rights: Until the end of the game, The Bazaar can now be used by players on this tile.
A Place of Worship: Whenever a player produces Magic or Worship, he produces 1 extra Magic and/or Worship. This includes Magic/Worship generated by Retainers and Items.
Slaver Camp: Until the end of the game, once per day, each player at this tile can produce 2 Slaves for free, or 1 good from the following list: Wood, Sandstone, Mud, Metal or Livestock, their choice.


@Fener

We are assuming that you are the one who put the bazaar rights on ND because it happened 15 minutes after you logged on.

People have recieved PMs from PS that say you are a mage.

ND got sacro a few hours ago just after you got a couple of votes.

Now you pop in and say

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So basically trying to lynch a mage who is one a tile with a place of worship is a complete and total waste of time. I am not a mage. I have no idea how you geniuses manged not to see this.


If you are not a mage, then why go to the effort of pointing out what a sweet position "somebody" on the ND tile is enjoying.

If somebody is framing you, it would mean they started on day 1. And they have an ability that prevents people from voting for you. And that said ability has the power to put your name in the PM from PS.

And you only pop up when people are talking about you. That alone is suspicious play.

So why do you wonder why we "geniuses" are picking on you? If it's a frame, it's a damn good one.


And the sad alternative is that if it really is a frame then Fener has been low-posting and presumably doing almost nothing at all all game in which case it's probably not much of a loss even if he does turn out to be on my faction so where's the incentive to not lynch him? :twoguns:

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:27 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 03 November 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

The Northern Desert. players on this tile can only be targeted by players who are also located on this tile.
Bazaar Rights: Until the end of the game, The Bazaar can now be used by players on this tile.
A Place of Worship: Whenever a player produces Magic or Worship, he produces 1 extra Magic and/or Worship. This includes Magic/Worship generated by Retainers and Items.
Slaver Camp: Until the end of the game, once per day, each player at this tile can produce 2 Slaves for free, or 1 good from the following list: Wood, Sandstone, Mud, Metal or Livestock, their choice.


@Fener

We are assuming that you are the one who put the bazaar rights on ND because it happened 15 minutes after you logged on.

People have recieved PMs from PS that say you are a mage.

ND got sacro a few hours ago just after you got a couple of votes.

Now you pop in and say

Quote

So basically trying to lynch a mage who is one a tile with a place of worship is a complete and total waste of time. I am not a mage. I have no idea how you geniuses manged not to see this.


If you are not a mage, then why go to the effort of pointing out what a sweet position "somebody" on the ND tile is enjoying.

If somebody is framing you, it would mean they started on day 1. And they have an ability that prevents people from voting for you. And that said ability has the power to put your name in the PM from PS.

And you only pop up when people are talking about you. That alone is suspicious play.

So why do you wonder why we "geniuses" are picking on you? If it's a frame, it's a damn good one.


Oh it isn't only the ND it would be the Nepath too, both of those tiles are stacked but you guys seem to think that you can eventually lynch someone who can basically generate a ton of worship anytime they want. So to keep trying to lynch Tellan is a waste of time. I don't care if you want to pick on me. I barely have time to play. A lynch of me would probably do my team good. I haven't been much use to them so far. But since I am not allied with Tellan and I think that you are on his team my vote remains.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:31 PM

Just got back, trying to get my head round everything. My first thought is that as it doesnt look like Telann is currently sacrosanct he may be a good idea.

This whole thing with fener is very worrying and if it didnt look like he's probably sacrosancted himself i would say that he was probably the best choice, although the suspicious side of me is still wondering if this isnt some elaborate scheme by one faction to try and steer the lynch.

Atm Im very much in favour of lynching Telann or Emurlahn as it looks like they are probably in the big alliance.

Vote telann

but obviously i will be happy to change to anyone i feel might be in that block of factions

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:33 PM

View PostSpite, on 20 November 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

Just got back, trying to get my head round everything. My first thought is that as it doesnt look like Telann is currently sacrosanct he may be a good idea.

This whole thing with fener is very worrying and if it didnt look like he's probably sacrosancted himself i would say that he was probably the best choice, although the suspicious side of me is still wondering if this isnt some elaborate scheme by one faction to try and steer the lynch.

Atm Im very much in favour of lynching Telann or Emurlahn as it looks like they are probably in the big alliance.

Vote telann

but obviously i will be happy to change to anyone i feel might be in that block of factions

Tellan for the fucking love of fucking god.
Tellan.
Tellan.
NOT FUCKING TELANN.
I HATE FUCKING LURKERS.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:38 PM

Vote Spite.

I can't vote Fener and Tellan will just put up Sacro if we try to lynch him, and I have no idea where Spite stands, so as far as I can tell he is the best choice for today.

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