[Emurlahn]

Ampelas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

I cannot vote Fener unfortunately. I received something saying that unless I pay 3 Worship every day until the end of the game I cannot vote for him.

[Emurlahn]

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

I think it's time to use something other than the iPad, Emur.

Yes indeed. Dragging my old MBP out in a bit.

[Tennes]

I'm back and seems not modkilled. Reading up now.

[Tennes]

Ampelas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

Fener is the lowest poster and has not contributed much. This is a guess but I think if we target Tellan he will make the place Sacrosanct again., I think he has left it open for us to lynch Karosis today but if we go for him he will create the Sacrosanct. I cannot vote Fener unfortunately. I received something saying that unless I pay 3 Worship every day until the end of the game I cannot vote for him.

I got the same thing. Did it also say something else right before that, claiming he is a _something_?

[Emurlahn]

Tennes, on 20 November 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

I cannot vote Fener unfortunately. I received something saying that unless I pay 3 Worship every day until the end of the game I cannot vote for him.

I got the same thing. Did it also say something else right before that, claiming he is a _something_?

[Anomandaris]

Someone made a rude gesture at me...

[Telas]

Anomandaris, on 20 November 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

Someone made a rude gesture at me...

What do you mean?
Are you drunk?

[Galain]

The bit with having to pay three worship to vote for Fener seems a bit harsh to me, but at the same time that is the reason I think that claim might actually be true.

[Galain]

Emurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 20 November 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 20 November 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 19 November 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 19 November 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

Ouch.
Ehm, the faction specific buildings are all intended to be unique.

So Karosis is Atif and is LP as long as he keeps an Honor Guard retainer around.

However, if Karosis is just a GoB member and has a one use building, he can be lynched now.

I propose a test. Let's go for a speed lynch and find out. If we can manage it in the next ~4 hours, we can have Day 5 before a Thanksgiving break. Once past that, we should treat it as Day 4 being our last before break.

Vote Karosis

I'm not okay with a speed lynch. The last day went by way too quickly as it is. Plus I just mentioned in a previous post that Karosis is damn near unlynchable probably.

I think Karosis wants us to think like that. I still think Fener is best choice for today.

@Ruse, i'm not paying him anything. If he continues to do it to other people though he will become unlynchable unless people pay him the worship then he can sacrosanct that shit up all over the place!

Until I see my faction allied with GoB, I think Karosis is a good target. If LP due to retainer, he is unlynchable. If due to the GoB specific building, that was a one use. If hiding on tile with sacro (Nepeth empire), it is not sacro yet today.
I think it is a safe bet that Fener is at the northern desert. It's been upgraded a fair bit. Slave camp, bazaar rights, and place of worship. It would be a waste of a lot of effort to leave that tile now.

So you are in the big alliance already? Otherwise wouldn't it be smarter to go for someone who is most likely in it aka presumably Tellan?

[Emurlahn]

Anomandaris, on 20 November 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

Someone made a rude gesture at me...

This they ask questions about.

Emurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

I cannot vote Fener unfortunately. I received something saying that unless I pay 3 Worship every day until the end of the game I cannot vote for him.

[Atrahal]

Emurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 20 November 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

Someone made a rude gesture at me...

This they ask questions about.

Emurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

I cannot vote Fener unfortunately. I received something saying that unless I pay 3 Worship every day until the end of the game I cannot vote for him.

Emur, is there something more than formatting going on with you? Are you not allowed to speak about something?

[Atrahal]

Something to do with Fener, that is.

[Emurlahn]

Galain, on 20 November 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

So you are in the big alliance already? Otherwise wouldn't it be smarter to go for someone who is most likely in it aka presumably Tellan?

I said that my faction is not allied with GoB.

I would like to know if Karosis was LP due to the single use building, was sitting on the Nepeth Empire tile with sacro, or is LP due to being Atif w/ Honor Guard. But I am aware that Karosis is not high enough on anyone's list to worth the time of pushing for a lynch today.

[Emurlahn]

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

Emur, is there something more than formatting going on with you? Are you not allowed to speak about something?

Good enough for me. I made the mistake of asking PS what I could say and was told "only if they ask you".

Yeah, Fener got me with the can't vote unless pay worship thing also.

[Emurlahn]

So there are at least three of us in that boat. If we pay the worship to be allowed to vote for him, all we'd be doing is funding his sacro.

[Emurlahn]

Emurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

Galain, on 20 November 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

So you are in the big alliance already? Otherwise wouldn't it be smarter to go for someone who is most likely in it aka presumably Tellan?

I said that my faction is not allied with GoB.

I would like to know if Karosis was LP due to the single use building, was sitting on the Nepeth Empire tile with sacro, or is LP due to being Atif w/ Honor Guard. But I am aware that Karosis is not high enough on anyone's list to worth the time of pushing for a lynch today.

Oh. The reason I think that that knowledge is important is that the Mahesh Quarter building can be built by any GoB member. So, theoretically, they all have a one time LP.

[Galain]

Emurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

Emur, is there something more than formatting going on with you? Are you not allowed to speak about something?

Good enough for me. I made the mistake of asking PS what I could say and was told "only if they ask you".

Yeah, Fener got me with the can't vote unless pay worship thing also.

Since when is that happening to you? The question goes to all players who have to pay the worship.

[Emurlahn]

Emurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

Emur, is there something more than formatting going on with you? Are you not allowed to speak about something?

Good enough for me. I made the mistake of asking PS what I could say and was told "only if they ask you".

Yeah, Fener got me with the can't vote unless pay worship thing also.

For the record, the Fuck You Fener a few posts back was in reference to this. Not because he wanted an explanation for my absence. That was perfectly reasonable request.

[Emurlahn]

Galain, on 20 November 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 20 November 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

Emur, is there something more than formatting going on with you? Are you not allowed to speak about something?

Good enough for me. I made the mistake of asking PS what I could say and was told "only if they ask you".

Yeah, Fener got me with the can't vote unless pay worship thing also.

Since when is that happening to you? The question goes to all players who have to pay the worship.

Yesterday afternoon 3:25 EST

[Tulas Shorn]

Ampelas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Telas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 20 November 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:

Telas, on 20 November 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

I'm bored.
No one here?

I've just got here. So, who wants to make the first move?
The way I see it, we currently have two targets: Tellan and Karosis. Who you go for kinda depends on where you stand with the alliance, doesn't it?
There are actually a few more options on both sides, as several people have made it fairly plain where their allegiances lie, but these are the two most prominent members.

The way I see it,we have some info about both of them.So it would be better if we try and get info from someone other than these two,someone we mostly don't have any info on.Like Fener.

Ah, the third way. Of course, that poses the risk that you end up lynching someone in your own faction unknowingly. That will also be true for some with Karosis and Tellan too, of course, but at least it would be knowingly, and, most likely by that point, unavoidably.

Fener is the lowest poster and has not contributed much. This is a guess but I think if we target Tellan he will make the place Sacrosanct again., I think he has left it open for us to lynch Karosis today but if we go for him he will create the Sacrosanct. I cannot vote Fener unfortunately. I received something saying that unless I pay 3 Worship every day until the end of the game I cannot vote for him.

I don't have a ton of time but I will say that I can independently confirm this. I also cannot vote Fener because I refused to pay him 3 Worship at dawn today. The fact that multiple people are being targeted by him with this ability almost makes me wish I had paid the Worship so I could vote him. I still prefer a Karosis lynch overall but he was LP yesterday and I have doubts that Fener can also whip out an LP. Just to throw some WIFOM in the mix, if Fener starts picking up votes and then suddenly a new tile becomes Sacrosanct, if he's collecting Worship from people then he can probably afford that Tile Action and he may become LP at that point. The WIFOM is that it could just be anybody throwing up a Sacrosanct on any tile to discourage us from lynching Fener OR to encourage us to test the theory so they themselves avoid a lynch or have more time or anything. Mmmm, WIFOM. No guarantees in Mafia.

Just to test this, I'll

Remove Vote
Vote Fener

I better not get modkilled or anything like that for this....it's my understanding more that my votes for Fener don't count, rather than I actually can't "try" to vote him on thread or else I face immediate modkill for breaking this restriction. So I'm doing this to prove that in the next P-S update, my vote for Fener will not count because I did not pay him the Worship he wanted, which should be enough evidence that I'm not lying and neither is Amp and this is a pretty good reason for other people to vote Fener, since our previous targets (Tellan/Karosis) have been LP so far.

But I am so down for a Karosis lynch it's not even funny, for the same reasons as yesterday. If he's LP for days in a row, well, fuck that.