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Mafia 93 - I spy a spy I them all!

#161 User is offline   Sorrit 

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:40 PM

Osseric said:

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Sorrit said:

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Makes me want to vote Olar Ethil. But he makes a compelling argument why he would be stupid to play that way as an FM.
There is still plenty of time yet though. Galain has me watching him too. It is day one. A bad case may be the only case we'll get.
Korvalain and Osseric make my radar blip just a bit due to them pointing fingers but mostly disappearing.


who have I pointed a finger at apart from a joke 'catch' on fener?


Here.

Osseric said:

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I think all the guys who are going over the top to be hard to copy are probably going to end up FM's




When you said that there were only three people "over the top"

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:49 PM

View PostOlar Ethil, on 22 October 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

A rather crude one when we were kids would have been...

Ippy Dippy dog's dicky inside out. When you press the red button shit flies out!

So in this scenario with 4 players playing say it would have landed on Telas but this time he would be out of the running to be "it". Then it'd go down to 3 players and it'd go (starting with the person after Telas)...


Ippy (Me), Dippy (Karosis), Dog's (Atrahal), Dicky (me), Inside (Karosis), out (Atrahal), when (me), you (Karosis), press (Atrahal), the (me), red (Karosis), button (Atrahal), shit (me), flies (Karosis), out (Atrahal)

That would mean that Atrahal is out of being "it". After another dip there would be one player called "Out", (in this scenario me), and that leaves the player that is "it" which is Karosis.



you know, just reading over the thread again, i think i'm starting to get what bothers me about oe. he seems to be living in his own fantasy world with his rhyming and yet is coherent elsewhere. i just get the feeling i'm being played by someone who knows too much. for example, in the above quote, why does he repeat those three names over and over (and if you want to get weird, start looking how often the number 3 comes up in his posts).

furthermore, i want to reiterate that with the presence of multiple FMs, the FM themselves don't want to be jumped into and I would expect higher posters to be the ones actively protecting themselves. town or FM, i doubt anyone is going to try jumping into oe, but i'd bet the farm that the oe alt will be dead tomorrow morning should he squeak out of a lynch.

also, in response to him bringing up last game, i remember one of the killers trying to lead the thread on day 1. just because he acts helpful doesn't mean he's RI.

Vote oe

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:56 PM

well i need to get some sleep, so in the interests of getting a lynch

vote OE

as he is the most suspicious one in my opinion

g'night folks

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:01 PM

Goodnight guys. I have no more time left for day one. If i'm the lynch you choose then fuck you all very much. When I started this game I thought my play would be the best defense against the FM's. I can see at least one FM going after the easy lynch today and you all lose someone that could help you later in the game. Fucking marvelous. Goodnight. I don't want to change to Emurlahn as I didn't get an FM vibe from him, that leaves Liosan as the next choice out there at the moment. If I'm here tomorrow then great i'll do my best to help catch the FM. I still think one of them is Korv. In fact, fuck you Korv...

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Vote Korvalian

For some of you saying I spam a lot just remove the poems from my posts and you get at least some content rather than fucking "i'll be back later posts". God the games gone by were we could actually spam as well as play the game. Haters!! I am too tired to fucking rage.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:25 PM

Galain said:

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Olar Ethil said:

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A rather crude one when we were kids would have been...

Ippy Dippy dog's dicky inside out. When you press the red button shit flies out!

So in this scenario with 4 players playing say it would have landed on Telas but this time he would be out of the running to be "it". Then it'd go down to 3 players and it'd go (starting with the person after Telas)...


Ippy (Me), Dippy (Karosis), Dog's (Atrahal), Dicky (me), Inside (Karosis), out (Atrahal), when (me), you (Karosis), press (Atrahal), the (me), red (Karosis), button (Atrahal), shit (me), flies (Karosis), out (Atrahal)

That would mean that Atrahal is out of being "it". After another dip there would be one player called "Out", (in this scenario me), and that leaves the player that is "it" which is Karosis.



you know, just reading over the thread again, i think i'm starting to get what bothers me about oe. he seems to be living in his own fantasy world with his rhyming and yet is coherent elsewhere. i just get the feeling i'm being played by someone who knows too much. for example, in the above quote, why does he repeat those three names over and over (and if you want to get weird, start looking how often the number 3 comes up in his posts).

furthermore, i want to reiterate that with the presence of multiple FMs, the FM themselves don't want to be jumped into and I would expect higher posters to be the ones actively protecting themselves. town or FM, i doubt anyone is going to try jumping into oe, but i'd bet the farm that the oe alt will be dead tomorrow morning should he squeak out of a lynch.

also, in response to him bringing up last game, i remember one of the killers trying to lead the thread on day 1. just because he acts helpful doesn't mean he's RI.

Vote oe



I had skipped over those posts completely. Probably he was just trying to have some fun and nobody else went with it. The probably is what is what is swaying me towards voting OE
Still 6 or 7 hours isn't there?

#166 User is offline   Sorrit 

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:31 PM

Olar Ethil said:

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Goodnight guys. I have no more time left for day one. If i'm the lynch you choose then fuck you all very much. When I started this game I thought my play would be the best defense against the FM's. I can see at least one FM going after the easy lynch today and you all lose someone that could help you later in the game. Fucking marvelous. Goodnight. I don't want to change to Emurlahn as I didn't get an FM vibe from him, that leaves Liosan as the next choice out there at the moment. If I'm here tomorrow then great i'll do my best to help catch the FM. I still think one of them is Korv. In fact, fuck you Korv...

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Vote Korvalian

For some of you saying I spam a lot just remove the poems from my posts and you get at least some content rather than fucking "i'll be back later posts". God the games gone by were we could actually spam as well as play the game. Haters!! I am too tired to fucking rage.



I can see being pissed off at the train forming on you. That's understandable.
But going all nostalgic for the good old days? Haters? And threatening to rage in a game with Veng lurking? Bah.

Vote OE

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 11:13 PM

Back and caught up.

The comments on OE are interesting. It does seem to me that the effort OE is putting in, not just with the spam but also with the content, would be at odds with the role of a FM. But then, it also occurred to me that FMs are going to get caught by jumping, so it makes sense to create a character that doesn't seem like a FM, and would discourage other FMs to jump into that alt. And people tend to be the most forgiving of spam on the first day. It's his exit post that really gets me, it screams "helpful little townie getting lynched", which always gets me suspicious.

For those of you talking about players with extra alts, there are 15 alts and 15 players in the sign up thread.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 11:17 PM

It is Day 1. 8 hours and 20 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Liosan ( Emurlahn )
5 Votes for Olar Ethil ( Korvalain, Telas, Galain, Osseric, Sorrit )
2 Votes for Emurlahn ( Atrahal, Karosis )
1 Vote for Korvalain ( Olar Ethil )

Players not voted: Fener, Liosan, Meanas, Spite, Tellan, Tulas Shorn
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 11:17 PM

ok im going to bed now, probably wont be on again before time out, so in the interest of a lynch and since i do think he could definitely be FM.

remove vote
vote Olar Ethil





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Posted 23 October 2012 - 11:17 PM

View PostLiosan, on 23 October 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

Back and caught up.

The comments on OE are interesting. It does seem to me that the effort OE is putting in, not just with the spam but also with the content, would be at odds with the role of a FM. But then, it also occurred to me that FMs are going to get caught by jumping, so it makes sense to create a character that doesn't seem like a FM, and would discourage other FMs to jump into that alt. And people tend to be the most forgiving of spam on the first day. It's his exit post that really gets me, it screams "helpful little townie getting lynched", which always gets me suspicious.

For those of you talking about players with extra alts, there are 15 alts and 15 players in the sign up thread.



I don't know, I think this is a mistake. I don't see an FM putting this much effort into being conspicuous, regardless of future plans or whatever.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 11:22 PM

It is Day 1. 8 hours and 15 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Liosan ( Emurlahn )
6 Votes for Olar Ethil ( Korvalain, Telas, Galain, Osseric, Sorrit, Karosis )
1 Vote for Emurlahn ( Atrahal )
1 Vote for Korvalain ( Olar Ethil )

Players not voted: Fener, Liosan, Meanas, Spite, Tellan, Tulas Shorn
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 11:50 PM

So Olar is the lynch du jour?

Can't say I really see it to be honest. Peoples problems with him are the poetry (the alleged spam) and some seem to buy into the idea that FMs are going to be the most aggressive on Day 1 because they're going to jump anyways.

The spam part of that doesn't really stand up, because he generated a lot of content over his posts as well. Why someone with lots of posts which contain actual stuff is worse than someone with few posts and a black hole for content is beyond me.

As for the second bit, I think that that logic doesn't stand up to any sort of scrutiny. On day one at least, I believe FMs don't have to play any way in particular, any more than townies have to a particular way. There is no real reason for them to be more aggressive.

I will be around to vote off OE if necessary, because they lynch is more important than whether I love the choice or not.

My preference would be to vote someone who is making a drive by on an easy vote train. That seems more FM to me. Why stand out and possibly become a lynch target on day 1, the easiest day to hide in, if you're going to jump soon? Easier to just ensure the lynch happens and grab a snack.

Telas, Sorrit, Korvalain fit the bill for that IMO.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 11:57 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 23 October 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 23 October 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

Back and caught up.

The comments on OE are interesting. It does seem to me that the effort OE is putting in, not just with the spam but also with the content, would be at odds with the role of a FM. But then, it also occurred to me that FMs are going to get caught by jumping, so it makes sense to create a character that doesn't seem like a FM, and would discourage other FMs to jump into that alt. And people tend to be the most forgiving of spam on the first day. It's his exit post that really gets me, it screams "helpful little townie getting lynched", which always gets me suspicious.

For those of you talking about players with extra alts, there are 15 alts and 15 players in the sign up thread.



I don't know, I think this is a mistake. I don't see an FM putting this much effort into being conspicuous, regardless of future plans or whatever.


If it's the way the player generally posts though, then it wouldn't take much more effort to go a bit crazy and add some silly poetry.

I don't know. Jury is still out for me. I don't really like lynching a high-posting and helpful player, but I'm keeping an open mind.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:24 AM

8 hours to go and 3 straight with reservations. Besides, there is just a touch of omgusism in my reaction to his tantrum.
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Now show me a good case. Otherwise I go choochoo with the others.
Not trying to be an ass here. The Emurlahn case is even weaker though. Hell, let's go lynchless and see if we have Vigs.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:29 AM

A good, truly convincing case on day 1 is like a presidential debate with substance (topical!), it doesn't exist. Honestly, I think there's more chance of picking randomly from a group of 4 or 5 in the middle range of posters and getting an FM than there is in lynching Olar. But I'll be happy to be proved wrong.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:35 AM

Atrahal said:

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A good, truly convincing case on day 1 is like a presidential debate with substance (topical!), it doesn't exist.


Agree. But this one seems to be worse.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:39 AM

View PostKarosis, on 23 October 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

ok on my reread i can definitely see where people are coming from on the emurlahn thing. some of the "tips" he gave to fnms from jumping in to you are so wrong that it does make him look suspicious.

remove vote
vote Emurlahn


Wait, What?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:40 AM

Catching up... brb. saw the post above and was confused as it made no sense.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:45 AM

View PostKarosis, on 23 October 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

ok im going to bed now, probably wont be on again before time out, so in the interest of a lynch and since i do think he could definitely be FM.

remove vote
vote Olar Ethil






good lord, you are wishy washy. Play the game. Don't follow the crowd just for the sake of it.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:46 AM

View PostMeanas, on 23 October 2012 - 11:50 PM, said:

So Olar is the lynch du jour?

Can't say I really see it to be honest. Peoples problems with him are the poetry (the alleged spam) and some seem to buy into the idea that FMs are going to be the most aggressive on Day 1 because they're going to jump anyways.

The spam part of that doesn't really stand up, because he generated a lot of content over his posts as well. Why someone with lots of posts which contain actual stuff is worse than someone with few posts and a black hole for content is beyond me.

As for the second bit, I think that that logic doesn't stand up to any sort of scrutiny. On day one at least, I believe FMs don't have to play any way in particular, any more than townies have to a particular way. There is no real reason for them to be more aggressive.

I will be around to vote off OE if necessary, because they lynch is more important than whether I love the choice or not.

My preference would be to vote someone who is making a drive by on an easy vote train. That seems more FM to me. Why stand out and possibly become a lynch target on day 1, the easiest day to hide in, if you're going to jump soon? Easier to just ensure the lynch happens and grab a snack.

Telas, Sorrit, Korvalain fit the bill for that IMO.



Or Karosis as he has done it twice. Though with people leaving for the day, it doesn't look like we could swing the lynch.


remove vote

as no one seems to find the Liosan post as suspicious as I do.

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