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Ben Aaronovitch - Peter Grant urban fantasy series Rivers of London/Midnight Riot, Moon Over Soho, etc...

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Posted 14 November 2014 - 05:21 PM

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Posted 19 November 2014 - 09:43 PM

Generally I enjoyed Foxglove Summer. It wasn't what I expected it to be at all, but I did enjoy the story.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 06:15 AM

Noooooooooo, Amazon is telling me I can't get it till January :(
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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:40 AM

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Really? It seems to be how Butcher and many other urban fantasy writers seem to draw out some story elements over a couple of books, doing little or nothing with the most important part of the story to the reader. It's nearly part of the genre.
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Posted 20 November 2014 - 12:51 PM

True, but after the clusterfuck at the end of Broken Homes I wanted much more development. I find Aaronovitch much more gripping than Butcher, personally.
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Posted 20 November 2014 - 01:39 PM

Actually I agree some extra realism gives Aaronovitch's series a lot to like, which more kitchensink urban fantasy of Butcher occationally lacks. Also I found Foxglove Summer is a lot stronger then anything Butchers written since Changes at least.

Kinda found the situation at end of Broken Homes more or less mirrored one or two large dramatic stuff Butcher introduced and didn't take care of for a good while.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 09:29 PM

You're not wrong. But for some reason with Butcher I am happy to see him meander about not getting to the point, but with Aaronovitch I'm impatient for the main plot to develop. Possibly because the supporting characters like Nightingale and Lesley are more fleshed out than Dresden's? If that makes any sense, I care more what happens to them.
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Posted 20 November 2014 - 09:39 PM

Makes total sense.
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Posted 03 December 2014 - 10:22 AM

Just finished Whispers Under Ground. Good story and I love th idea of a species living under London. However I just felt this book was the weweakest of the 3 I've read so far. I dunno it seemed like a pretty underwhelming finish. I did like the last line though and it was good enough that I'm gonna keep reading.
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Posted 03 December 2014 - 05:04 PM

So I finished the first four books, and while I don't think (for me) it's quite as good as Dresden or Garrett, I'm certainly enjoying the series.

I, also, can't get book 5 until January, and I absolutely loved the end of book 4.
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Posted 03 December 2014 - 10:04 PM

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Just finished Whispers Under Ground. Good story and I love th idea of a species living under London. However I just felt this book was the weweakest of the 3 I've read so far. I dunno it seemed like a pretty underwhelming finish. I did like the last line though and it was good enough that I'm gonna keep reading.

3 is maybe the weakest... or at least a bit different to the others. Worry not, 4 will blow your face off!
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Posted 03 December 2014 - 10:53 PM

View PostObdigore, on 03 December 2014 - 05:04 PM, said:

So I finished the first four books, and while I don't think (for me) it's quite as good as Dresden or Garrett, I'm certainly enjoying the series.

I, also, can't get book 5 until January, and I absolutely loved the end of book 4.


Kindle it, no?

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Just finished Whispers Under Ground. Good story and I love th idea of a species living under London. However I just felt this book was the weweakest of the 3 I've read so far. I dunno it seemed like a pretty underwhelming finish. I did like the last line though and it was good enough that I'm gonna keep reading.

3 is maybe the weakest... or at least a bit different to the others. Worry not, 4 will blow your face off!


Agreed on both points. 3 was weak, 4 more than compensated.
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Posted 03 December 2014 - 11:54 PM

Kindle in the US doesn't release until January 6, apparently.
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Posted 04 December 2014 - 11:05 AM

Still if that was the weakest, it's still a pretty good read...
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Posted 05 January 2015 - 07:03 AM

Finished FOXGLOVE SUMMER. very solid addition to the series. Peter shines, Beverly gets some great scenes, I enjoyed the change of scene from London and the story worked very nicely. Low on action again but when it happened it was pretty awesome, and that sense of wonder that I so enjoy from this series was firmly in place....the magic felt important when it happened.
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Posted 05 January 2015 - 02:05 PM

What happened to the magical mojo at the top of the tower post Broken Homes? They did the para ride off and then nothing else was mentioned.

PG got no power up and neither did the Faceless Man.
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Posted 05 January 2015 - 07:11 PM

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What happened to the magical mojo at the top of the tower post Broken Homes? They did the para ride off and then nothing else was mentioned.

PG got no power up and neither did the Faceless Man.


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Posted 07 January 2015 - 08:13 AM

I really enjoyed Foxglove Summer.

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In fact, I like this series better than Dresden. There aren't any of the problematic aspects that bother me so much about Dresden (Yes! Please, tell us more about your apprentice's training bra!), it's less repetitive, and the characterisation is better. Peter feels like a real person, Harry is basically a collection of cliché and male power fantasy.

I like Dresden, but I love Peter Grant.
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Posted 07 January 2015 - 06:59 PM

I finished this last night at 4am, and although I really enjoyed it, I have a couple questions...

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 09:24 PM

I think the Nightingale is fully human. The Russian having the same un-aging process most likely means that it's not a Fae thing.

One of the reasons why I think that is because we saw the Fae in Foxglove Summer and honestly, they weren't much more powerful than Grant himself and he's kind of a baby compared to Nightingale, the Russian or the Faceless Man.

I think Molly is a princess and not a queen because if it were the latter, the Fae would have been looking non-stop for her. Future books could see a Queen die and Molly get bumped up to Queen-Unconfirmed.

As for what's being done with the two girls, I don't think Grant cares - and therefor Aaronovitch won't really tell us. He's stuck quite rigidly to limiting this series to Grant's observations and viewpoint.
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