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#221 Abyss

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:41 PM

Aptorius, on 13 November 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

As far as I recall, while Ghost Story was a return to strength from Changes which I did not like, the latest book also left me a little cold. It felt too safe and it didn't really do much in terms of setting up the future books.

It broke Harry away from most of his supporting cast and set him up in an entirely new status quo. How is that not set-up?

Hound, on 13 November 2012 - 12:40 PM, said:

I found Ghost Story to be a bit of a slower read than the other Dresden Files books, but I also think that was kind of necessary after Changes. I see it as the beginning of a new start for Harry and I also ~~think~~ know that COLD DAYS will be beyond awesome

Partly because CHAPTER 3 was all kinds of awesome: http://www.jim-butch...-days-chapter-3

Agreed on all points, esp re CD ch3. Which everyone here should go read. Immediately.

Salt-Man Z, on 13 November 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

Ghost Story rubbed me the wrong way. I thought it was pretty awesome to start with, but it irritated me when almost everything from the blurb eventually turned out to be false: "Oh, I'm not actually a ghost; oh look, I can actually use my magic if I try hard enough," Molly's craziness might have just been an act, etc. (I don't remember many of the details.) It seemed like after starting out as such a daring departure from the rest of the series, it too quickly reverted back to the status quo (new boss notwithstanding.)

It required Harry to learn patience, to accept his limits and to let go of most of what he held important. It challenged him in a way wholly different from CHANGES. I thought it worked on those levels.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:55 PM

Abyss, on 13 November 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

Aptorius, on 13 November 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

It broke Harry away from most of his supporting cast and set him up in an entirely new status quo. How is that not set-up?

Again, it's been a while since I read it and my memory is vague. I think I was annoyed that the story didn't have a wider scope other than a wizard ghost eating other ghosts. I wanted more information on the fish people I think. I think that angle should have been fleshed out more.

On the other hand as I think on the book more I remember the lesson the angel wanted to teach Dresden. About the repercussions of his actions and how his hot headed attitude and lack of attention to the big picture hurt the people around him. That was an important moment in Dresdens character development I think.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:51 PM

Aptorius, on 13 November 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

I wanted more information on the fish people I think. I think that angle should have been fleshed out more.

That fish people stuff, which is quasi-related to the Apocalypse, is coming up as a main event later. Maybe two books after Cold Days. Every fifth book is the Denarians, so the next book (the fifteenth) will have Nicodemus & Co. in it.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:13 PM

amphibian, on 13 November 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

Cold Days. Every fifth book is the Denarians, so the next book (the fifteenth) will have Nicodemus & Co. in it.

Is this a Word of Jim, or are you just going off the pattern so far? I'd like to see the Denarians more often, personally. Especially now that the Red Court is out.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:54 PM

End of Disc One, on 13 November 2012 - 09:13 PM, said:

Is this a Word of Jim, or are you just going off the pattern so far? I'd like to see the Denarians more often, personally. Especially now that the Red Court is out.

Actually, Blend picked up this pattern in his Dresdencrack thread and showed me how it's been confirmed elsewhere. Give all credit to him.

The fish people (I love this absurdly reductionist title for Formorians) have featured in a couple short stories now (Murph's Aftermath and Marcone's Even Hand). They are very obviously being prepared for an entrance into the main series as Big Bads, but their entrance will come as part of the Apocalypse set-up that Aptorius wants.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:22 PM

So about ch3.... which was more dresdencrack goodness that certain people are denyiing themselves to no good purpose....

Spoiler

SO psyched for the rest of this...

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:52 PM

We are only denying ourselves Chapter 1. In order to get to Ch.s 2 and 3, we'd have to go through Ch.1. So we're only denying ourselves one chapter, really.

If denying is even what we're doing. For me, at least, I'm savouring the anticipation. I don't need meagre dribbles of my chosen high in order to keep my interest at its zenith.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:04 AM

Two more weeks yo.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:28 PM

Use Of Weapons, on 13 November 2012 - 11:52 PM, said:

The above logic is so flawed that your eyes are brown.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:39 AM

Abyss, on 13 November 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:

So about ch3.... which was more dresdencrack goodness that certain people are denyiing themselves to no good purpose....

Spoiler

SO psyched for the rest of this...

I now have A Red Country, so it's not even like I'm denying myself anything.

To my fellow hold outs:

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“You all know the mission, and what is at stake.
I have come to trust each of you with my life -- but I have also heard murmurs of discontent. I share your concerns.
We are trained for espionage; we would be legends, but the records are sealed. Glory in battle is not our way.
Think of our heroes; the Silent Step, who defeated a nation with a single shot. Or the Ever Alert, who kept armies at bay with hidden facts.
These giants do not seem to give us solace here, but they are not all that we are.
Before the network, there was the fleet. Before diplomacy, there were soldiers!
Our influence stopped the rachni, but before that we held the line!
Our influence stopped the krogan, but before that, we held the line!
Our influence will stop Saren; in the battle today, we will hold the line!”

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:04 PM

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 09:10 PM

I won't give in, I'm on a six step program.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 09:20 PM

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:08 PM

Have thrown myself in with the Denialist movement. Not even the pretty blue of the links will make me click. THOU SHALT NOT TAKE ME!!

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:32 AM

+++++++++++++++++++++Dresdencrack Logs+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Day 479 since Ghost Story........

Salvation approaches. Our time draws ever nearer.

One almighty surge of Dresedencrack to see us through the next long, cold wait.

Pressure remains, from the weak willed, the enfeebled, those who gave in already. Their whispered temptations bespeak their own nature. They wish to have stayed true, as we have.

They failed. Their flaws are NOT ours.

We who stayed strong KNOW our time is coming.

Soon, the glorious day will dawn.......

And it will be magnificent

++++++++++++++++++++++Log Ends++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

meh. Link was dead :(

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:55 AM

Keepin it real. Still holding out.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 05:46 PM

I'm holding out also, mainly because I had no idea that there was an alternative. I guess I'll continue to hold out since I'm a stubborn bastard.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:16 PM

So I picked this up today, over a week early. Ain't no thang. You know, all in a days SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:50 PM

Fuuuuuckkk

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 09:40 PM

Y'know, the fact that it's hitting the street means all you 'don't read the promos' people are really just delaying the inevitable at this point.

I mean, you would effectively be reading what you're going to be reading any day now anyways.

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