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#2441 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:07 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

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View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 10:04 AM, said:

Do we think this is possible? Extremely lazy by Rashan here. I should be dead if what he says is true unless someone healed me which I don't know why they would. I was recruited by the Penguin so I can see why he may want me gone but who would Poison Ivy rather be lynched today? A recruit on an opposing team or BM?


Well, as far as I'm concerned, the only people who are off the plate are the CLs. If I had any indication that you were a CL I would change my vote, but as you have said that you're a Penguin recruit, it behooves me to reduce the opposing faction's numbers, thus making it easier for my faction to reach plurality.

That being said, you MAY have been a Penguin recruit previously, but I still smell flying rodent on you. Sure the case might be a little shaky, but I'm still going to follow my CLs' orders unless reasonably deduce that you are a CL. The Spite case wasn't much more solid, and the 1st BM case (I don't remember who it was, seems so long ago!) was even shakier. I think you're the Bat, so my vote stays.



Anyone else reading this?

You are going against the majority of what people want here and going for a recruit. I was recruited last night so what you say is wrong. PI could recruit me tonight and i'd be on your team, unless it takes two nights to recruit a recruit which would make more sense.



Gunning for a recruit is not the best option, no. But then again, you also MIGHT be the Batman, so from Rashan's point of view it's not a LOSS if you are, as you claim to be, a Penguin recruit. His logic is sound even if it goes against the desires of the thread; going for the Batman is a priority but for someone who is already recruited, I can't say as it is time-relevant. Bearing in mind Cults need time to recruit in order to have plurality once the Batman goes down...you can see why an admitted cultist would not be adverse to wasting a day on you, given the possibility that you're the Batman, and even if you aren't, his faction benefits?


Again, though, I see you trying to circumvent an entire argument with that empty claim. And now you're speculating mechanics like Fener was; two nights is a possibility, but an unlikely one considering that then the Cults would have almost zero chance of winning (remember: they need PLURALITY, and there were FOUR of them, one recruit every two nights just DOES NOT STACK, mathmatically speaking...). Game balance dictates that victory is a close thing, not a cake walk...

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:12 PM

View PostRashan, on 12 June 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

Seeing as there were apparently recruits after Night 1, that is not likely. I think you're just trying to confuse the thread. And besides, just because others think the only viable alternative is BM, doesn't make it true. As part of a cult, my goal is to not only kill BM, my cult has to have the most members when he dies. It makes sense to try to thin the other cults out.

That being said, I reiterated right after saying that that I was still fairly certain you were the bat. You're only digging your hold deeper by trying to turn the argument on me so clumsily.


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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:13 PM

View PostGalain, on 12 June 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

Well then 2 things Galain. First is I was recruited last night and Penguin will/should confirm this by Broadcast. Second is, I've had use of a cache before. Hence my shooting of Eloth. Take off the blinkers.



Herp the derp, you having seen a cache before changes nothing - I made clear allowances for that in my dissection of Fener's point. That point being that claiming to have seen a cache/chosen from it does not change your liklihood to be the Batman. The fact that we KNOW you've seen one before just makes your claim to have taken from the cache again even more empty as it is so easy for you to make. It's a very, very easy lie, and one that is not easily provable UNLESS we give you the benefit of the doubt, for which there is no current good reason to do so.


And for the third(?) bloody time: Until Penguin does confirm this (again: he should have already by my reckoning) it is an EMPTY defense. It's a claim with no backup. I could claim I was recruited by Ampelas or Eloth and have all the damn credibility your claim does. So stop using it like it's a be-all defense! ;)



As for "blinkers", I grow tired of seeing that term applied to people who actively push a case. Focus is bad if and only if it excludes other options and ignores facts. Otherwise it's called good pressuring and pursuit. I'll look elsewhere if I have the time (I don't; so I kind of expect other players to do that, yourself included) or IF you are cleared. And indeed, I am giving thought to other cases on thread, it's just that the only real one out there is Fener's case on Karosis which is marginal and very unconvincing; possibly due to intoxication of the author! XD

Other than that, we have what? Atrahal claiming that D'riss avoided death via NK? Yeah, again, if one was paying attention...and moreover it doesn't do anything to suggest he's the Batman TODAY, for obvious reasons.


That's the first time i've used the term blinkers in mafia. You are coming at me even though in my opinion i've given adequate answers to the charges levelled at me. You say my play has changed. Well on day one it was exactly the same. Then I had the rest of my honeymoon to contend with which meant my free time went rapidly down hill. I get back, i'm in work infront of a computer and I have all day to play. Therefore my posting times and amounts will increase.

If you are going of change in play then Telas and Korbas have said they'll be away from the thread for long period's of time. They have both been active high posters this game so why leave the thread. You can argue either RL issues again or that now they have the Batman role they don't want to slip up and lie low. That is what your basing your accusations at me on. That I am more active.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:14 PM

"going of change in play to going OFF change in play"

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:16 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

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The game will end when Batman is dead, or when he is victorious. If the game ends with Batman's death, the series is cancelled, and the faction that had plurality at the time of Batman's death is declared the winner.


This has always been the case from the beginning of the game regardless of faction so I don't see where you are coming from. When I was town the CL's posted the same threat as Batman if not more. Yes we'd need BM dead but if we didn't stop the recruiters then they'd get majority. Now i'm recruited i'm wary of the other faction but now see Batman as my factions biggest threat. The Penguin may have opted not to mention he recruited me to see who attacked me the hardest and if other of his recruits attacked me and followed PI's reasoning. That way he'd be able to tell somewhat if any of his recruits have turned. What do you say about PI's broadcast then about you being targetted?



*ahem*


Go here: Llink. Read the part of your post I've quoted. Then look back at the OP win conditions.

1. Lynch CL.

2. Lynch the Batman #3

3. Go after another CL.

Step four: Profit? No, step four is "Batman wins at this point".

Hummm.


See my problem? SEE IT!?!? You seem to be ignoring the fact that "when Batman is victorious" is when the CLs are dead.




Next: the Penguin didn't say that he did in fact recruit you (I believe this was before you claimed so on-thread...not that it matters) because he wanted to see if his own recruits had turned or not by whether they attacked you...dude. Are you new? I'm asking this seriously. 1. You're assuming that it makes sense for his own recruits to BELIEVE YOU. 2. You're assuming that his own recruits have some way to know you are a recruit without him telling them. 3. WHAT THE FUCK SORT OF LOGIC DO YOU THINK THE PENGUIN IS USING?! By the time they get back online you could have been lynched. That's just ludicrous logic all up in that shit.

And lastly, I've already covered the PI broadcast; I haven't lost a BP - I even double-checked with Ment. So either I was (for real this time?) healed, or, given you are still alive, more likely, Bane was Guarded. Simple. But guesswork.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:18 PM

View PostRashan, on 12 June 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

Anyone else reading this?

You are going against the majority of what people want here and going for a recruit. I was recruited last night so what you say is wrong. PI could recruit me tonight and i'd be on your team, unless it takes two nights to recruit a recruit which would make more sense.


Seeing as there were apparently recruits after Night 1, that is not likely. I think you're just trying to confuse the thread. And besides, just because others think the only viable alternative is BM, doesn't make it true. As part of a cult, my goal is to not only kill BM, my cult has to have the most members when he dies. It makes sense to try to thin the other cults out.

That being said, I reiterated right after saying that that I was still fairly certain you were the bat. You're only digging your hold deeper by trying to turn the argument on me so clumsily.


You are failing here.

One night one no one was already a recruit. Town may have been recruited yes but no one was a recruit already. day/night two you would have recruits. I mean for one CL to steal another CL's recruit it may take two nights. We've seen that in a few games previously.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:21 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 12 June 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

Well then 2 things Galain. First is I was recruited last night and Penguin will/should confirm this by Broadcast. Second is, I've had use of a cache before. Hence my shooting of Eloth. Take off the blinkers.



Herp the derp, you having seen a cache before changes nothing - I made clear allowances for that in my dissection of Fener's point. That point being that claiming to have seen a cache/chosen from it does not change your liklihood to be the Batman. The fact that we KNOW you've seen one before just makes your claim to have taken from the cache again even more empty as it is so easy for you to make. It's a very, very easy lie, and one that is not easily provable UNLESS we give you the benefit of the doubt, for which there is no current good reason to do so.


And for the third(?) bloody time: Until Penguin does confirm this (again: he should have already by my reckoning) it is an EMPTY defense. It's a claim with no backup. I could claim I was recruited by Ampelas or Eloth and have all the damn credibility your claim does. So stop using it like it's a be-all defense! ;)



As for "blinkers", I grow tired of seeing that term applied to people who actively push a case. Focus is bad if and only if it excludes other options and ignores facts. Otherwise it's called good pressuring and pursuit. I'll look elsewhere if I have the time (I don't; so I kind of expect other players to do that, yourself included) or IF you are cleared. And indeed, I am giving thought to other cases on thread, it's just that the only real one out there is Fener's case on Karosis which is marginal and very unconvincing; possibly due to intoxication of the author! XD

Other than that, we have what? Atrahal claiming that D'riss avoided death via NK? Yeah, again, if one was paying attention...and moreover it doesn't do anything to suggest he's the Batman TODAY, for obvious reasons.


That's the first time i've used the term blinkers in mafia. You are coming at me even though in my opinion i've given adequate answers to the charges levelled at me. You say my play has changed. Well on day one it was exactly the same. Then I had the rest of my honeymoon to contend with which meant my free time went rapidly down hill. I get back, i'm in work infront of a computer and I have all day to play. Therefore my posting times and amounts will increase.

If you are going of change in play then Telas and Korbas have said they'll be away from the thread for long period's of time. They have both been active high posters this game so why leave the thread. You can argue either RL issues again or that now they have the Batman role they don't want to slip up and lie low. That is what your basing your accusations at me on. That I am more active.



That you're more active - CONSIDERABLY so, and that you're making some serious mistakes for someone who was supposedly paying attention at the start of the game. That's the point. Sudden spike in activity is an indicator of someone becoming INTERESTED. While I'll grant you that people trying to lie low is also a possible sign of being the Batman, at least they try to excuse themselves beforehand: it's considered atrocious manners to claim RL when you do not in fact have RL issues, btw - it is not on the same vein as "I was inno, now I'm the Batman so LET'S PLAY". In other words, their change is more logical and explainable than your change. And your change has supporting minor misunderstandings which imply bored inno -> the Batman, whereas their changes suit with what they've claimed.
So it's not purely a quantity thing.



And as I say, youre "end-all" excuse of being recruited is untested, so is not sufficient response.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:23 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 12 June 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

Anyone else reading this?

You are going against the majority of what people want here and going for a recruit. I was recruited last night so what you say is wrong. PI could recruit me tonight and i'd be on your team, unless it takes two nights to recruit a recruit which would make more sense.


Seeing as there were apparently recruits after Night 1, that is not likely. I think you're just trying to confuse the thread. And besides, just because others think the only viable alternative is BM, doesn't make it true. As part of a cult, my goal is to not only kill BM, my cult has to have the most members when he dies. It makes sense to try to thin the other cults out.

That being said, I reiterated right after saying that that I was still fairly certain you were the bat. You're only digging your hold deeper by trying to turn the argument on me so clumsily.


You are failing here.

One night one no one was already a recruit. Town may have been recruited yes but no one was a recruit already. day/night two you would have recruits. I mean for one CL to steal another CL's recruit it may take two nights. We've seen that in a few games previously.



Uhm, bro? He says AFTER night one. That is to say, DAY TWO.


You are now strawmanning. And also backtracking on your speculation.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:25 PM

*Oh, and regards the "blinkers" thing, Emur: I wasn't meaning hearing it from YOU, just that it has been bandied about several times by several players this game, whenever people have pushed a case. It's starting to annoy me, is all, you're just the latest in the line to use it. ;)




Right, well, I've had a fairly long-ass day, so I'm going off to bed. I shall see you all in the morning.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:28 PM

View PostGalain, on 12 June 2012 - 01:23 PM, said:

Uhm, bro? He says AFTER night one. That is to say, DAY TWO.


You are now strawmanning. And also backtracking on your speculation.


Like I said, just keeps digging his hole deeper and deeper. I am more and more comfortable with my vote by the post.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:30 PM

View PostGalain, on 12 June 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

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The game will end when Batman is dead, or when he is victorious. If the game ends with Batman's death, the series is cancelled, and the faction that had plurality at the time of Batman's death is declared the winner.


This has always been the case from the beginning of the game regardless of faction so I don't see where you are coming from. When I was town the CL's posted the same threat as Batman if not more. Yes we'd need BM dead but if we didn't stop the recruiters then they'd get majority. Now i'm recruited i'm wary of the other faction but now see Batman as my factions biggest threat. The Penguin may have opted not to mention he recruited me to see who attacked me the hardest and if other of his recruits attacked me and followed PI's reasoning. That way he'd be able to tell somewhat if any of his recruits have turned. What do you say about PI's broadcast then about you being targetted?



*ahem*


Go here: Llink. Read the part of your post I've quoted. Then look back at the OP win conditions.

1. Lynch CL.

2. Lynch the Batman #3

3. Go after another CL.

I WAS GOING TO SAY AT THIS POINT THERE'D BE NO MORE RECRUITMENT AND THEREFORE TOWN WOULD KILL BATMAN AND WIN BUT I FORGOT BATMAN'S WIN CONDITIONS!! I DO SEE YOUR POINT AND THAT WAS FAIL ON MY PART!!

Step four: Profit? No, step four is "Batman wins at this point".

Hummm.


See my problem? SEE IT!?!? You seem to be ignoring the fact that "when Batman is victorious" is when the CLs are dead.




Next: the Penguin didn't say that he did in fact recruit you (I believe this was before you claimed so on-thread...not that it matters) because he wanted to see if his own recruits had turned or not by whether they attacked you...dude. Are you new? I'm asking this seriously. 1. You're assuming that it makes sense for his own recruits to BELIEVE YOU. 2. You're assuming that his own recruits have some way to know you are a recruit without him telling them. 3. WHAT THE FUCK SORT OF LOGIC DO YOU THINK THE PENGUIN IS USING?! By the time they get back online you could have been lynched. That's just ludicrous logic all up in that shit.

And lastly, I've already covered the PI broadcast; I haven't lost a BP - I even double-checked with Ment. So either I was (for real this time?) healed, or, given you are still alive, more likely, Bane was Guarded. Simple. But guesswork.


Bane must have been guarded which I said earlier as a possible solution.

The Penguin wouldn't have told people he recruited me straight out, why would he? Even with a few votes that's still okay. Now that i've come out and said it he should confirm and once he does you'd back off, true?

Not saying PI's team will back off, a couple of them will follow her, maybe.

What allegiance are you Galain? Town? Recruited? BM?

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:33 PM

View PostGalain, on 12 June 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 12 June 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

Well then 2 things Galain. First is I was recruited last night and Penguin will/should confirm this by Broadcast. Second is, I've had use of a cache before. Hence my shooting of Eloth. Take off the blinkers.



Herp the derp, you having seen a cache before changes nothing - I made clear allowances for that in my dissection of Fener's point. That point being that claiming to have seen a cache/chosen from it does not change your liklihood to be the Batman. The fact that we KNOW you've seen one before just makes your claim to have taken from the cache again even more empty as it is so easy for you to make. It's a very, very easy lie, and one that is not easily provable UNLESS we give you the benefit of the doubt, for which there is no current good reason to do so.


And for the third(?) bloody time: Until Penguin does confirm this (again: he should have already by my reckoning) it is an EMPTY defense. It's a claim with no backup. I could claim I was recruited by Ampelas or Eloth and have all the damn credibility your claim does. So stop using it like it's a be-all defense! ;)



As for "blinkers", I grow tired of seeing that term applied to people who actively push a case. Focus is bad if and only if it excludes other options and ignores facts. Otherwise it's called good pressuring and pursuit. I'll look elsewhere if I have the time (I don't; so I kind of expect other players to do that, yourself included) or IF you are cleared. And indeed, I am giving thought to other cases on thread, it's just that the only real one out there is Fener's case on Karosis which is marginal and very unconvincing; possibly due to intoxication of the author! XD

Other than that, we have what? Atrahal claiming that D'riss avoided death via NK? Yeah, again, if one was paying attention...and moreover it doesn't do anything to suggest he's the Batman TODAY, for obvious reasons.


That's the first time i've used the term blinkers in mafia. You are coming at me even though in my opinion i've given adequate answers to the charges levelled at me. You say my play has changed. Well on day one it was exactly the same. Then I had the rest of my honeymoon to contend with which meant my free time went rapidly down hill. I get back, i'm in work infront of a computer and I have all day to play. Therefore my posting times and amounts will increase.

If you are going of change in play then Telas and Korbas have said they'll be away from the thread for long period's of time. They have both been active high posters this game so why leave the thread. You can argue either RL issues again or that now they have the Batman role they don't want to slip up and lie low. That is what your basing your accusations at me on. That I am more active.



That you're more active - CONSIDERABLY so, and that you're making some serious mistakes for someone who was supposedly paying attention at the start of the game. That's the point. Sudden spike in activity is an indicator of someone becoming INTERESTED. While I'll grant you that people trying to lie low is also a possible sign of being the Batman, at least they try to excuse themselves beforehand: it's considered atrocious manners to claim RL when you do not in fact have RL issues, btw - it is not on the same vein as "I was inno, now I'm the Batman so LET'S PLAY". In other words, their change is more logical and explainable than your change. And your change has supporting minor misunderstandings which imply bored inno -> the Batman, whereas their changes suit with what they've claimed.
So it's not purely a quantity thing.



And as I say, youre "end-all" excuse of being recruited is untested, so is not sufficient response.


nothing will be until he does though.

You can keep on and I can keep answering honestly but you'll think i'm trying to be slippery because honesty is not trusted this is mafia after all. You are on the attack though and could easily be the BM trying to take me out in the hopes that you get to live another day and weasel your way out of a lynch tomorrow also. Instead of looking for the BM I keep having to reply to you. What questions would you like answered?

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 01:39 PM

View PostGalain, on 12 June 2012 - 01:23 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 12 June 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

Anyone else reading this?

You are going against the majority of what people want here and going for a recruit. I was recruited last night so what you say is wrong. PI could recruit me tonight and i'd be on your team, unless it takes two nights to recruit a recruit which would make more sense.


Seeing as there were apparently recruits after Night 1, that is not likely. I think you're just trying to confuse the thread. And besides, just because others think the only viable alternative is BM, doesn't make it true. As part of a cult, my goal is to not only kill BM, my cult has to have the most members when he dies. It makes sense to try to thin the other cults out.

That being said, I reiterated right after saying that that I was still fairly certain you were the bat. You're only digging your hold deeper by trying to turn the argument on me so clumsily.


You are failing here.

One night one no one was already a recruit. Town may have been recruited yes but no one was a recruit already. day/night two you would have recruits. I mean for one CL to steal another CL's recruit it may take two nights. We've seen that in a few games previously.



Uhm, bro? He says AFTER night one. That is to say, DAY TWO.


You are now strawmanning. And also backtracking on your speculation.



Galain stop.

He says there were recruits after night one which I agree with. That is not my point at all. Your being dense.

A recruiter couldn't have recruited a recruit night one as there were town, Batman and the CL's. No recruits existed on day one that we know of.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 02:01 PM

Just for shits and giggles can someone please indicate why you'd think Spite would pick me as a successor? What have I done that would make me such a good choice?

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 02:10 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 12 June 2012 - 01:23 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 12 June 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

Anyone else reading this?

You are going against the majority of what people want here and going for a recruit. I was recruited last night so what you say is wrong. PI could recruit me tonight and i'd be on your team, unless it takes two nights to recruit a recruit which would make more sense.


Seeing as there were apparently recruits after Night 1, that is not likely. I think you're just trying to confuse the thread. And besides, just because others think the only viable alternative is BM, doesn't make it true. As part of a cult, my goal is to not only kill BM, my cult has to have the most members when he dies. It makes sense to try to thin the other cults out.

That being said, I reiterated right after saying that that I was still fairly certain you were the bat. You're only digging your hold deeper by trying to turn the argument on me so clumsily.


You are failing here.

One night one no one was already a recruit. Town may have been recruited yes but no one was a recruit already. day/night two you would have recruits. I mean for one CL to steal another CL's recruit it may take two nights. We've seen that in a few games previously.



Uhm, bro? He says AFTER night one. That is to say, DAY TWO.


You are now strawmanning. And also backtracking on your speculation.



Galain stop.

He says there were recruits after night one which I agree with. That is not my point at all. Your being dense.

A recruiter couldn't have recruited a recruit night one as there were town, Batman and the CL's. No recruits existed on day one that we know of.


Are you intentionally trying not to make sense? No-one has said anything about there being recruits on Day 1 but you. No-one. You are forcefully trying to make a point that nobody disagrees with instead of trying to follow the real issues. We'll see whether the Penguin claims you, but this isn't a defence that inspires any confidence in you.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 02:18 PM

View PostKarosis, on 12 June 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 12 June 2012 - 01:23 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 12 June 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

Anyone else reading this?

You are going against the majority of what people want here and going for a recruit. I was recruited last night so what you say is wrong. PI could recruit me tonight and i'd be on your team, unless it takes two nights to recruit a recruit which would make more sense.


Seeing as there were apparently recruits after Night 1, that is not likely. I think you're just trying to confuse the thread. And besides, just because others think the only viable alternative is BM, doesn't make it true. As part of a cult, my goal is to not only kill BM, my cult has to have the most members when he dies. It makes sense to try to thin the other cults out.

That being said, I reiterated right after saying that that I was still fairly certain you were the bat. You're only digging your hold deeper by trying to turn the argument on me so clumsily.


You are failing here.

One night one no one was already a recruit. Town may have been recruited yes but no one was a recruit already. day/night two you would have recruits. I mean for one CL to steal another CL's recruit it may take two nights. We've seen that in a few games previously.



Uhm, bro? He says AFTER night one. That is to say, DAY TWO.


You are now strawmanning. And also backtracking on your speculation.



Galain stop.

He says there were recruits after night one which I agree with. That is not my point at all. Your being dense.

A recruiter couldn't have recruited a recruit night one as there were town, Batman and the CL's. No recruits existed on day one that we know of.


Are you intentionally trying not to make sense? No-one has said anything about there being recruits on Day 1 but you. No-one. You are forcefully trying to make a point that nobody disagrees with instead of trying to follow the real issues. We'll see whether the Penguin claims you, but this isn't a defence that inspires any confidence in you.


My point here you moron is that Rashan wants to vote for me because i'm a recruit on another team. I said up above that Poison Ivy could recruit me tonight and we'd be on the same team. UNLESS IT WOULD TAKE TWO NIGHTS TO PRY ME AWAY FROM PENGUIN. How is this not relevant. My intitial post said as much you dickbag!

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 02:19 PM

Out of all i've said the last few pages you stick to one point. Maybe i'm the easy fucking lynch but that doesn't mean its the right one. The right one for most people would be Batman. I'm not Batman which Penguin should let you know in due course.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 02:21 PM

Remove Vote

Vote Karosis

Your the Batman.


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Posted 12 June 2012 - 02:24 PM

It is Day 6. 14 hours and 47 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Liosan, Omtose, Rashan, Telas

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Karosis ( Fener, Emurlahn )
3 Votes for Emurlahn ( Korbas, Rashan, Galain )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Atrahal, D'riss, Karosis, Liosan, Omtose, Telas

-Liz
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 02:27 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

My point here you moron is that Rashan wants to vote for me because i'm a recruit on another team. I said up above that Poison Ivy could recruit me tonight and we'd be on the same team. UNLESS IT WOULD TAKE TWO NIGHTS TO PRY ME AWAY FROM PENGUIN. How is this not relevant. My intitial post said as much you dickbag!


That's not at all true, Emurlahn. I said that I think you're Batman, but that even if you weren't, lynching someone on an opposing faction wouldn't be a great loss for MY faction. Stop trying to put words in my mouth, it only makes you look more guilty.

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 June 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Karosis

Your the Batman.



Where's your explanation for this? Seems to have come out of nowhere...

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