[Liosan]

After an extensive reread i can see why people would vote for him, especially on Day 1. So,

Vote Eloth

Meanas doesn't strike me as a Recruiter, if anything he's a new player, and Eloth appears to be the current favourite for a lynch, so i'll just tag along. 'tis Day 1 after all.

[Omtose]

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:

Suddenly voices are raised in rage and people are going at each others throat, intending to beat each other to death.
Then a shot falls and one of the men is lying on the floor not to ever get up again.

Sheltata Lore is dead. She was Shinrei and Solomon Grundy

It is Day 1. 4 hours and 33 minutes left

21 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

5 votes for Eloth (Karosis, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Galain, Rashan)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)
3 votes for Meanas (Spite, Eloth, D'riss)
1 vote for Emurlahn (Telas)

-Liz

I guess Two Face took out Shelly like he mentioned.

[Eloth]

Rashan, on 05 June 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

If I were a recruiter, my priority lynch list would be as follows: 1A) fellow recruiter. 1B) batman 2) recruit of fellow recruiter 3) townie. Because today's townie is tomorrow's minion.

That would be a priority list of anyone besides Batman, so I don't take that as a good argument. I think you're going after a townie, and I don't think it makes sense to go after a townie. It's suspicious, and seeing as there is pretty much no way we can figure out exactly who the cult leaders are, and because I still stand by my belief that Meanas is town, I still think you're the scummiest of the likely candidates. Thus, my vote stays.

Listen mate, it's your gut that tells you he's a townie. It's my gut that tells me he's scum who got away with not being lynched for now. What's the best defense for acting scummy? Saying you're playing to be recruited and show just enough regret to get away with it. It might be coincidence, but after their vow of reformation, they haven't been online either. My expectation is that they won't until the end of the day, whether by design (less chance to fan the flames) or by necessity.


So your view and mine are currently diametrically opposed views, but there's currently no definite proof either is wrong.

[Omtose]

Rashan, on 05 June 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

Another message from Two-Face:

Quote

I'm sure we can come to a mutually beneficial deal. SL and Emurlahn are mine.

What is this supposed to mean? I almost feel like we should be completely ignoring these messages. These guys are just trying to muddy the water and get us confused. More WIFOM.

That might be best, indeed.

That's what, two people saying we should ignore Cult Leader messages? Trying to distance yourselves, perhaps?

No, actually I just don't want to kill myself with WIFOM. After the Two Face message and Shelly kill though, I'm getting the opinion that Two Face wants us to NOT look at Emurlahn and Telas. This looks more like we are being herded to an Eloth lynch.

[Eloth]

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:

Suddenly voices are raised in rage and people are going at each others throat, intending to beat each other to death.
Then a shot falls and one of the men is lying on the floor not to ever get up again.

Sheltata Lore is dead. She was Shinrei and Solomon Grundy

It is Day 1. 4 hours and 33 minutes left

21 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

5 votes for Eloth (Karosis, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Galain, Rashan)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)
3 votes for Meanas (Spite, Eloth, D'riss)
1 vote for Emurlahn (Telas)

-Liz

I guess Two Face took out Shelly like he mentioned.

Funny. I read the original statement as a declaration of whom he would try and recruit, but was already wondering why he named 2 people instead of 3 or more as this would make a 50% chance of a cultist lynch tomorrow, so I dismissed it as wifom.

[Atrahal]

I really don't want to vote randomly, but there's just not much to go on at present, and the time limit is fast approaching. What do we know for certain?

* Joker has fingered Osseric (for whatever reason)
* Two-Face has claimed SL and Emurlahn
* Vig kill on SL, potentially in response to Two-Face's claim
* Meanas is, on balance, more likely to be Town than not
* I am unlikely to be Poison Ivy


Everything else is supposition. It's really not enough to go on, and surely not enough to make any deductions from. I'd expect that Emurlahn might be the next target of a kill as the only other known claimed player. Pointless to vote for him in that case, or not? I'd be tempted to vote for Emur to see what contingent actions might result.



Vote Emurlahn

[Rashan]

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

Rashan, on 05 June 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

If I were a recruiter, my priority lynch list would be as follows: 1A) fellow recruiter. 1B) batman 2) recruit of fellow recruiter 3) townie. Because today's townie is tomorrow's minion.

That would be a priority list of anyone besides Batman, so I don't take that as a good argument. I think you're going after a townie, and I don't think it makes sense to go after a townie. It's suspicious, and seeing as there is pretty much no way we can figure out exactly who the cult leaders are, and because I still stand by my belief that Meanas is town, I still think you're the scummiest of the likely candidates. Thus, my vote stays.

Listen mate, it's your gut that tells you he's a townie. It's my gut that tells me he's scum who got away with not being lynched for now. What's the best defense for acting scummy? Saying you're playing to be recruited and show just enough regret to get away with it. It might be coincidence, but after their vow of reformation, they haven't been online either. My expectation is that they won't until the end of the day, whether by design (less chance to fan the flames) or by necessity.


So your view and mine are currently diametrically opposed views, but there's currently no definite proof either is wrong.

And given that, there's no reason I should change my vote. You currently have the most votes and so seem like the most likely candidate, so if we manage to get a lynch on you, we'll find out if I was right.

[Ampelas]

Galain, on 05 June 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

OK, PS, just to make sure everyone has this clear:

Quote

Batman rules:
BAtman is a predator. he is very hard to kill and has numeorus powers to help him take down the recruiters.
if he is lynched, the executives may meddle and use "Dramatic Twist" to prolong the life of the show. Batman can designate a sucessor, Big-Ben/Gozer style. anyone who is not a recruiter may be a successor.
Once the Batman is killed 4 times, the ratings will plummet and show will be cancelled. The faction with the most members at the time of his death will be declared the winners.
NOTE: if Batman is killed during the night, the numbers will be based on next morning's numbers. IF he dies during the day, the numbers will be based on end-of day.

Now, this reads to me, Batman only gets the "Dramatic Twist" if he is LYNCHED. At which point he can designate a successor.

Is this an accurate reading? As in, if he is attacked at night, he has some other means of defense, like BPs, but if he is lynched - specifically - THEN he can designate a successor, up to four times? What's the correct layout on that? (Because the most basic reading is that it doens't matter whether he's killed day or night he gets to select a successor, but I'm just curious because I'm a pedantic bear and it doesn't read like that to me, y'know?)

That's how I read it, too - the dramatic twist only happens if he is lynched. I would assume he has several BPs since he is the predator, so it would take several vigs/town kills(/cult kills?) OR several lynches to eliminate him. LPs wouldn't be very useful - we'd just lynch him every day, so the successor mechanic saves him from that.

Would be good to get PS confirmation that it only applies to lynches, though.

[Emurlahn]

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:

Rashan, on 05 June 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

Another message from Two-Face:

Quote

I'm sure we can come to a mutually beneficial deal. SL and Emurlahn are mine.

What is this supposed to mean? I almost feel like we should be completely ignoring these messages. These guys are just trying to muddy the water and get us confused. More WIFOM.

That might be best, indeed.

That's what, two people saying we should ignore Cult Leader messages? Trying to distance yourselves, perhaps?

No, actually I just don't want to kill myself with WIFOM. After the Two Face message and Shelly kill though, I'm getting the opinion that Two Face wants us to NOT look at Emurlahn and Telas. This looks more like we are being herded to an Eloth lynch.

I'm more inclined to think that Eloth had posted that broadcast to cast suspicion towards me and SL and away from himself. Then SL goes and dies. I think the BM targetted SL due to either that message OR because SL had a hard on for me therefore casting suspicion on me for being the Batman. Basically from my view point the thread has exploded since we put a few votes on Eloth. Would there have been a day vig IF we didn't go for Eloth? Would that broadcast have been broadcast if Eloth wasn't gaining votes? I'm not sold on Eloth's defence as I think he is scrambling because we've caught a roled player. Whether Eloth turns out to be BM or CL that is for us to see.

[Eloth]

Rashan, on 05 June 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

Rashan, on 05 June 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

If I were a recruiter, my priority lynch list would be as follows: 1A) fellow recruiter. 1B) batman 2) recruit of fellow recruiter 3) townie. Because today's townie is tomorrow's minion.

That would be a priority list of anyone besides Batman, so I don't take that as a good argument. I think you're going after a townie, and I don't think it makes sense to go after a townie. It's suspicious, and seeing as there is pretty much no way we can figure out exactly who the cult leaders are, and because I still stand by my belief that Meanas is town, I still think you're the scummiest of the likely candidates. Thus, my vote stays.

Listen mate, it's your gut that tells you he's a townie. It's my gut that tells me he's scum who got away with not being lynched for now. What's the best defense for acting scummy? Saying you're playing to be recruited and show just enough regret to get away with it. It might be coincidence, but after their vow of reformation, they haven't been online either. My expectation is that they won't until the end of the day, whether by design (less chance to fan the flames) or by necessity.


So your view and mine are currently diametrically opposed views, but there's currently no definite proof either is wrong.

And given that, there's no reason I should change my vote. You currently have the most votes and so seem like the most likely candidate, so if we manage to get a lynch on you, we'll find out if I was right.

And if you're wrong about me, what then? You're not going to lynch yourself, are you... but are you going to re-examine Meanas, who you have all but VPI'ed... on DAY 1?

[Ampelas]

Korbas, on 05 June 2012 - 01:53 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Ok, so I finally actually caught up.

Here are my thoughts.

If town needs to have more than any of the cults for a victory at bowel movement's time of death, then taking out one of the leaders wouldn't be a bad idea.

So we have joker pointing at Osseric as bowel movement. I don't see how Joker could have any idea who bowel movement is, so possibly A) Joker really does think that Oss is bowel movement and would like to see him taken down a life. B--) (Sorry for dashes, trying to avoid a smiley appearing instead) The Joker thinks that Oss is one of the other cult leaders and wants to toss some heat on him. C) The joker is actually Oss, and put his own name in there to throw townsfolk off (or just as a joke). And finally D) Oss is just a random-ass name that the joker threw in.

Thoughts anyone? I'm physically exhausted after reading/posting this. Ill check back later.

The reason I bit so fast is flavor. The Joker knew Batman was Bruce Wayne in the game.

There could be some sort of thing in where the Joker knows Batman at first, but won't know the three successors, getting one easy-lynch in our of four?

But I don't think it's very likely, because from the thread messages it looks like the cult leaders all have the same abilities.

[Omtose]

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

Rashan, on 05 June 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

Rashan, on 05 June 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

If I were a recruiter, my priority lynch list would be as follows: 1A) fellow recruiter. 1B) batman 2) recruit of fellow recruiter 3) townie. Because today's townie is tomorrow's minion.

That would be a priority list of anyone besides Batman, so I don't take that as a good argument. I think you're going after a townie, and I don't think it makes sense to go after a townie. It's suspicious, and seeing as there is pretty much no way we can figure out exactly who the cult leaders are, and because I still stand by my belief that Meanas is town, I still think you're the scummiest of the likely candidates. Thus, my vote stays.

Listen mate, it's your gut that tells you he's a townie. It's my gut that tells me he's scum who got away with not being lynched for now. What's the best defense for acting scummy? Saying you're playing to be recruited and show just enough regret to get away with it. It might be coincidence, but after their vow of reformation, they haven't been online either. My expectation is that they won't until the end of the day, whether by design (less chance to fan the flames) or by necessity.


So your view and mine are currently diametrically opposed views, but there's currently no definite proof either is wrong.

And given that, there's no reason I should change my vote. You currently have the most votes and so seem like the most likely candidate, so if we manage to get a lynch on you, we'll find out if I was right.

And if you're wrong about me, what then? You're not going to lynch yourself, are you... but are you going to re-examine Meanas, who you have all but VPI'ed... on DAY 1?

In a cult game we have to re-examine everyone every day.

[Emurlahn]

Atrahal, on 05 June 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:

I really don't want to vote randomly, but there's just not much to go on at present, and the time limit is fast approaching. What do we know for certain?

* Joker has fingered Osseric (for whatever reason)
* Two-Face has claimed SL and Emurlahn
* Vig kill on SL, potentially in response to Two-Face's claim
* Meanas is, on balance, more likely to be Town than not
* I am unlikely to be Poison Ivy


Everything else is supposition. It's really not enough to go on, and surely not enough to make any deductions from. I'd expect that Emurlahn might be the next target of a kill as the only other known claimed player. Pointless to vote for him in that case, or not? I'd be tempted to vote for Emur to see what contingent actions might result.



Vote Emurlahn

Who voted for me? Sheltatha and Telas? I responded to Telas but he hasn't come on since. I ignored shelly because of his votes so far. I've committed myself to thinking that Meanas is town based on his opening post and have a good inkling of two other towns based on similar clues. I've tried to give a couple myself with "not the smartest cookie in the box" and something else. If you are playing the game and looking at what people have wrote then as of now you should know that i'm town. If not then that would cast suspicion your way as you don't understand the role of town OR you do but fail to pick up on the little clues thrown down.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 3 hours and 55 minutes left

21 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

6 votes for Eloth (Karosis, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Galain, Rashan, Liosan)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)
3 votes for Meanas (Spite, Eloth, D'riss)
2 vote for Emurlahn (Telas, Atrahal)

-Liz

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 05 June 2012 - 04:07 PM

[Eloth]

Emurlahn, on 05 June 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:

Rashan, on 05 June 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

Another message from Two-Face:

Quote

I'm sure we can come to a mutually beneficial deal. SL and Emurlahn are mine.

What is this supposed to mean? I almost feel like we should be completely ignoring these messages. These guys are just trying to muddy the water and get us confused. More WIFOM.

That might be best, indeed.

That's what, two people saying we should ignore Cult Leader messages? Trying to distance yourselves, perhaps?

No, actually I just don't want to kill myself with WIFOM. After the Two Face message and Shelly kill though, I'm getting the opinion that Two Face wants us to NOT look at Emurlahn and Telas. This looks more like we are being herded to an Eloth lynch.

I'm more inclined to think that Eloth had posted that broadcast to cast suspicion towards me and SL and away from himself. Then SL goes and dies. I think the BM targetted SL due to either that message OR because SL had a hard on for me therefore casting suspicion on me for being the Batman. Basically from my view point the thread has exploded since we put a few votes on Eloth. Would there have been a day vig IF we didn't go for Eloth? Would that broadcast have been broadcast if Eloth wasn't gaining votes? I'm not sold on Eloth's defence as I think he is scrambling because we've caught a roled player. Whether Eloth turns out to be BM or CL that is for us to see.

Ehm, SL was the only guy who agreed I might be inno. If I am a cult leader and wanted to recruit him, would I call attention to him? There. Is. A. Hole. In. Your. Reasoning.
As for the thread exploding: only because I put up a defense and you people are clearly no longer used to that. Look at how lame justifications to throw down a vote have been - everyone's eager to make it to day 2.
If we were more used to defenses, I wouldn't have had to throw down 20 posts either, because others would step forward and contribute their own reasoning instead of seeing an affirmation of guilt in the fact I don't go out meekly like a lamb to the slaughter, or just saying "you have the most votes, I'm not certain, so down you go."

[Ampelas]

Korvalain, on 05 June 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

I have returned from sleep, and hopefully making more sense

I'm finding these statements from the criminal masterminds very interesting. Hopefully they will give us some clues about the masterminds and their suspects. Interesting this fascination they have for Osseric too.

I'm a bit torn over looking for Batman over the criminal masterminds. The cults, I think, are a more immediate threat to town, but the Batman issue is going to have to be addressed fairly early on as well.

Also, I am a wee bit confused as to why D'riss is feeling the need to quote largely irrelevant comments made by other people, with largely irrelevant comments of his own added to them.

This post looks so very, very forced-content-ish. It's just so formula.

Line 1: state you're back with a bit of boring flavour.

Line 2: Say that the most stand-out things on thread are "interesting" because you haven't really read the thread at all yet.

Line 3: Discuss town strategies that everyone has already gone into far more detail than you about, but don't make up your mind here because you don't want to get any heat from picking the worse option!

Line 4: Pick a random player that isn't getting any heat and point out something completely random as possible scummy behaviour, just so this post has some "unique" content.


Looks like total stay-hidden-but-don't-low-post coasting. Could easily be a lame townie, but I also think this is how a BM/CL might try to coast through the first few days to avoid taking any heat. Still have catching up to do, but for now:

Vote Korvalain

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 3 hours and 46 minutes left

21 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

6 votes for Eloth (Karosis, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Galain, Rashan, Liosan)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)
3 votes for Meanas (Spite, Eloth, D'riss)
2 vote for Emurlahn (Telas, Atrahal)
1 vote Korvalain (Ampelas)

-Liz

[Ampelas]

Catch-up done. I'm surprised all the suggestions of "strategy" so far have been either "go for the CLs" or "go for BM". Both, IMO, are shit.

Galain, on 05 June 2012 - 01:04 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 05 June 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

Hmm, I read it that BM nominates a successor, who's only informed of their change in role if BM kicks the bucket.

Well either way it won't be the same player playing BM the second time round. This makes the game a lot harder for us. We have to kill BM 4 times. 4 different alts and people. We then have to kill 4 recruiters and hopefully not be recruited ourselves if we stand any chance of winning. I hope those extra roles Ment said maybe in play are in our favour. I'm going to assume they are and they give us a better chance.

@Telas

Above my response to Ano's post was that in every scenario he gave we'd have to lynch Osseric. He didn't give another side to the argument. I wasn't agreeing with him there I was just pointing it out.

Wrong. If we kill the Batman four times, it is GAME OVER. We either win or lose at that point, we don't have to kill the four recruiters afterwards (I'm assuming it's nigh impossible for two factions to have plurality by that stage, if not...sudden death? Or something...). Once the Batman is dead, we've either won or lost at that point. The trick is to do it fast enough that the Cults cannot gain more members than town beforehand. We need only be the largest single faction at the end of the game.


Additionally, Batman is trying to kill the Cult Leaders too. So hopefully his action reduces the rate of recruitment on town.

^^Yes, it is important to remember the game ends as soon as batman is dead. From the OP, that is either after we lynch the 3rd successor OR if he gets NK'd (presumably after many BPs, if this is even possible). At that time we need to be the biggest faction, so going for BM now while we are big makes sense. BUT, there's no way we can lynch him 4 times and still be the largest faction unless we are very, very lucky with the cult blocking each other and/or recruiting each others' recruits, plus BM killing cultists instead of town.

IMO, there has to be some way for us to get back those recruited by the cults. A decoder role would be possible, but not very effective against 4 cults. More likely, I think recruits turn back into town when a CL dies. It makes sense for the theme (the gang dissolves when the leader dies and the cultists become regular unorganized criminals, aka town, again) and it is effective at giving town back our townies.

So we go for the CLs then?

No. Batman needs to kill the CLs to win, right? If we hunt and kill 2 of them, but then still have to lynch batman four times, he has four nights to kill the other 2 CLs and win before we can. IMO, the best strategy is to go for BM until he has been lynched twice. If, at that point, there are still 4 CLs, we go for them to build back up the town, then we finish off BM. If after BM has died twice there are only 2 CLs left already, we just keep hunting BM.

Basically, we need to balance how much life BM has left versus how many townies we have. Otherwise we face killing BM without being able to get majority town in time, or the CLs dying before we can finish off BM.

[Eloth]

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

Rashan, on 05 June 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

Rashan, on 05 June 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

If I were a recruiter, my priority lynch list would be as follows: 1A) fellow recruiter. 1B) batman 2) recruit of fellow recruiter 3) townie. Because today's townie is tomorrow's minion.

That would be a priority list of anyone besides Batman, so I don't take that as a good argument. I think you're going after a townie, and I don't think it makes sense to go after a townie. It's suspicious, and seeing as there is pretty much no way we can figure out exactly who the cult leaders are, and because I still stand by my belief that Meanas is town, I still think you're the scummiest of the likely candidates. Thus, my vote stays.

Listen mate, it's your gut that tells you he's a townie. It's my gut that tells me he's scum who got away with not being lynched for now. What's the best defense for acting scummy? Saying you're playing to be recruited and show just enough regret to get away with it. It might be coincidence, but after their vow of reformation, they haven't been online either. My expectation is that they won't until the end of the day, whether by design (less chance to fan the flames) or by necessity.


So your view and mine are currently diametrically opposed views, but there's currently no definite proof either is wrong.

And given that, there's no reason I should change my vote. You currently have the most votes and so seem like the most likely candidate, so if we manage to get a lynch on you, we'll find out if I was right.

And if you're wrong about me, what then? You're not going to lynch yourself, are you... but are you going to re-examine Meanas, who you have all but VPI'ed... on DAY 1?

In a cult game we have to re-examine everyone every day.

That's not what I am talking about.

[Omtose]

Emurlahn, on 05 June 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:

Rashan, on 05 June 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

Another message from Two-Face:

Quote

I'm sure we can come to a mutually beneficial deal. SL and Emurlahn are mine.

What is this supposed to mean? I almost feel like we should be completely ignoring these messages. These guys are just trying to muddy the water and get us confused. More WIFOM.

That might be best, indeed.

That's what, two people saying we should ignore Cult Leader messages? Trying to distance yourselves, perhaps?

No, actually I just don't want to kill myself with WIFOM. After the Two Face message and Shelly kill though, I'm getting the opinion that Two Face wants us to NOT look at Emurlahn and Telas. This looks more like we are being herded to an Eloth lynch.

I'm more inclined to think that Eloth had posted that broadcast to cast suspicion towards me and SL and away from himself. Then SL goes and dies. I think the BM targetted SL due to either that message OR because SL had a hard on for me therefore casting suspicion on me for being the Batman. Basically from my view point the thread has exploded since we put a few votes on Eloth. Would there have been a day vig IF we didn't go for Eloth? Would that broadcast have been broadcast if Eloth wasn't gaining votes? I'm not sold on Eloth's defence as I think he is scrambling because we've caught a roled player. Whether Eloth turns out to be BM or CL that is for us to see.

You know that does make the most sense. The heat gets put on Eloth and so then we get the day vig. With only a few hours left in the day, we're all then going to try and scramble and figure out why the vig takes place, taking attention away from Eloth. So scrambling CL or BM with a life to lose?

vote Eloth