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#381 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 03:57 AM

OK, PS, just to make sure everyone has this clear:



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Batman rules:
BAtman is a predator. he is very hard to kill and has numeorus powers to help him take down the recruiters.
if he is lynched, the executives may meddle and use "Dramatic Twist" to prolong the life of the show. Batman can designate a sucessor, Big-Ben/Gozer style. anyone who is not a recruiter may be a successor.
Once the Batman is killed 4 times, the ratings will plummet and show will be cancelled. The faction with the most members at the time of his death will be declared the winners.
NOTE: if Batman is killed during the night, the numbers will be based on next morning's numbers. IF he dies during the day, the numbers will be based on end-of day.


Now, this reads to me, Batman only gets the "Dramatic Twist" if he is LYNCHED. At which point he can designate a successor.

Is this an accurate reading? As in, if he is attacked at night, he has some other means of defense, like BPs, but if he is lynched - specifically - THEN he can designate a successor, up to four times? What's the correct layout on that? (Because the most basic reading is that it doens't matter whether he's killed day or night he gets to select a successor, but I'm just curious because I'm a pedantic bear and it doesn't read like that to me, y'know?)

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 03:57 AM

View PostEmurlahn, on 05 June 2012 - 03:31 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 05 June 2012 - 02:14 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 05 June 2012 - 01:53 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Ok, so I finally actually caught up.

Here are my thoughts.

If town needs to have more than any of the cults for a victory at bowel movement's time of death, then taking out one of the leaders wouldn't be a bad idea.

So we have joker pointing at Osseric as bowel movement. I don't see how Joker could have any idea who bowel movement is, so possibly A) Joker really does think that Oss is bowel movement and would like to see him taken down a life. B--) (Sorry for dashes, trying to avoid a smiley appearing instead) The Joker thinks that Oss is one of the other cult leaders and wants to toss some heat on him. C) The joker is actually Oss, and put his own name in there to throw townsfolk off (or just as a joke). And finally D) Oss is just a random-ass name that the joker threw in.

Thoughts anyone? I'm physically exhausted after reading/posting this. Ill check back later.


The reason I bit so fast is flavor. The Joker knew Batman was Bruce Wayne in the game.


Perhaps The Joker needs to "unmask" Batman. He was always seeking to do so in many story lines. I'm guessing the 4 Cult leaders would like to know Batman's identity as soon as possible, thus the basis for what we will see them attempt to do with these broadcasts. And at night they will recruit. I wish I had participated more before my name was mentioned like this, because maybe something I said or a direction I took might reveal something useful. As is, all my posts until I returned a bit ago were all made within the first two hours of the game starting, and we had no real substance what-so-ever. So this makes me think it's some random attempt at some sort of revealing process. We're cattle to them. All I can hope and suggest is that we do not make their game plan easier by ripping into each other like usual while leaving only a few good players left to handle the work load. Quit making a select few people do the job. This does not seem to me to be a game for subtlety, nor a game for layers and layers of mislead unless you are not part of the town. I'd be looking for players with aggression(with perhaps some exception given the nature of the informaton being acted on). The chances are highest that we lynch town, so I can't see how town would willingly remove a player from their faction when it seems to be so heavily needed without solid reason Just one less town is a large blow. So I suggest a higher level of Day 1 caution than normal by a factor 9000. We can agree to this before someone is thrown under the bus so it will not look like it is an attempt to symp that target. Proceed with caution, team. I'm chosing an early stance on this point, good or bad.


Why not vote for night why your at it?? You're suggesting a no lynch scenario which is WCS for town.


My biggest concern is actually how these broadcasts are choosing targets. If you were in my seat, you'd wonder the same. I have zero defense for why The Joker picked me. It makes me at least also consider the possibility that Penguin used the word 'mayor' to cast suspicion on Meanas. I'll even go as far as to say that if there is not some better information revealed soon, I'll gladly take a death for the team. I mean I've seen plenty of first day lynches based on almost nothing, but that 'nothing' usually stems from something the target said themselves.Not the case with me, for my death would be contributed to the whims of random chance. I can live with that. As it stands at least I can serve the purpose of showing The Joker to be liar with my death/reveal, and dent his credibility, and at the same time hopefully casting some suspicion your way. Because I still can't see out of my 5 or so posts how I would draw The Joker's attention, unless it has something to do with Eloth, which even I highly doubt at this point.

View PostEmurlahn, on 05 June 2012 - 03:20 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 05 June 2012 - 01:30 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 04 June 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

Should we make everyone say Osseric is Batman?


Osseric is Batman

I've almost caught up, but I didn't catch the part where what I said or did made me Batman, unless it was something to do with my very brief look at korv's criminal slip(or honest mistake) or Eloth. Back to reading.



I fail to believe you here. Everyone is talking about The Joker's broadcast and your implication in it and the post above yours also mentions it.



What do you not believe? That I can't find out of my 7 or 8 posts the place where I draw The Joker's attention? Please point it out for me. I'm actually quite curious. My thoughts so far are that the Cult Leaders are sowing deception, and you seem to be the only person assisting that so far. Go further with your reasoning. Follow through with a vote for me. You could possibly achieve both our deaths. I'll go down if you hold my hand on the way.It should be a fair trade in the scope of things.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:02 AM

View PostOsseric, on 05 June 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 05 June 2012 - 03:31 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 05 June 2012 - 02:14 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 05 June 2012 - 01:53 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Ok, so I finally actually caught up.

Here are my thoughts.

If town needs to have more than any of the cults for a victory at bowel movement's time of death, then taking out one of the leaders wouldn't be a bad idea.

So we have joker pointing at Osseric as bowel movement. I don't see how Joker could have any idea who bowel movement is, so possibly A) Joker really does think that Oss is bowel movement and would like to see him taken down a life. B--) (Sorry for dashes, trying to avoid a smiley appearing instead) The Joker thinks that Oss is one of the other cult leaders and wants to toss some heat on him. C) The joker is actually Oss, and put his own name in there to throw townsfolk off (or just as a joke). And finally D) Oss is just a random-ass name that the joker threw in.

Thoughts anyone? I'm physically exhausted after reading/posting this. Ill check back later.


The reason I bit so fast is flavor. The Joker knew Batman was Bruce Wayne in the game.


Perhaps The Joker needs to "unmask" Batman. He was always seeking to do so in many story lines. I'm guessing the 4 Cult leaders would like to know Batman's identity as soon as possible, thus the basis for what we will see them attempt to do with these broadcasts. And at night they will recruit. I wish I had participated more before my name was mentioned like this, because maybe something I said or a direction I took might reveal something useful. As is, all my posts until I returned a bit ago were all made within the first two hours of the game starting, and we had no real substance what-so-ever. So this makes me think it's some random attempt at some sort of revealing process. We're cattle to them. All I can hope and suggest is that we do not make their game plan easier by ripping into each other like usual while leaving only a few good players left to handle the work load. Quit making a select few people do the job. This does not seem to me to be a game for subtlety, nor a game for layers and layers of mislead unless you are not part of the town. I'd be looking for players with aggression(with perhaps some exception given the nature of the informaton being acted on). The chances are highest that we lynch town, so I can't see how town would willingly remove a player from their faction when it seems to be so heavily needed without solid reason Just one less town is a large blow. So I suggest a higher level of Day 1 caution than normal by a factor 9000. We can agree to this before someone is thrown under the bus so it will not look like it is an attempt to symp that target. Proceed with caution, team. I'm chosing an early stance on this point, good or bad.


Why not vote for night why your at it?? You're suggesting a no lynch scenario which is WCS for town.


My biggest concern is actually how these broadcasts are choosing targets. If you were in my seat, you'd wonder the same. I have zero defense for why The Joker picked me. It makes me at least also consider the possibility that Penguin used the word 'mayor' to cast suspicion on Meanas. I'll even go as far as to say that if there is not some better information revealed soon, I'll gladly take a death for the team. I mean I've seen plenty of first day lynches based on almost nothing, but that 'nothing' usually stems from something the target said themselves.Not the case with me, for my death would be contributed to the whims of random chance. I can live with that. As it stands at least I can serve the purpose of showing The Joker to be liar with my death/reveal, and dent his credibility, and at the same time hopefully casting some suspicion your way. Because I still can't see out of my 5 or so posts how I would draw The Joker's attention, unless it has something to do with Eloth, which even I highly doubt at this point.

View PostEmurlahn, on 05 June 2012 - 03:20 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 05 June 2012 - 01:30 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 04 June 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

Should we make everyone say Osseric is Batman?


Osseric is Batman

I've almost caught up, but I didn't catch the part where what I said or did made me Batman, unless it was something to do with my very brief look at korv's criminal slip(or honest mistake) or Eloth. Back to reading.



I fail to believe you here. Everyone is talking about The Joker's broadcast and your implication in it and the post above yours also mentions it.



What do you not believe? That I can't find out of my 7 or 8 posts the place where I draw The Joker's attention? Please point it out for me. I'm actually quite curious. My thoughts so far are that the Cult Leaders are sowing deception, and you seem to be the only person assisting that so far. Go further with your reasoning. Follow through with a vote for me. You could possibly achieve both our deaths. I'll go down if you hold my hand on the way.It should be a fair trade in the scope of things.



Can you please not be so fatalistic? There aren't THAT many people out to vote you, and we really would rather not lose a townie on day one (despite the track record...) in a game where every townie counts and we have a 5/22 chance of hitting scum in this! If anything, your "willingness" to take one for the team is suspicious as it is obviously meant to make us think you're innocent and self-sacrificing. *sigh*

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:09 AM

I bet Ment and Liz are having A NICE BIG CHUCKLE right now. Ment/Liz how funny is it to you that I said in PM that I thought Emurlahn was The Batman then I get 'randomly' targetted by The Joker? :tongue: :D :Rodeo:

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:10 AM

Well, I'm off to work. So I'll see you all laterz. Have fun while I'm gone.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:11 AM

View PostGalain, on 05 June 2012 - 04:02 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 05 June 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 05 June 2012 - 03:31 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 05 June 2012 - 02:14 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 05 June 2012 - 01:53 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Ok, so I finally actually caught up.

Here are my thoughts.

If town needs to have more than any of the cults for a victory at bowel movement's time of death, then taking out one of the leaders wouldn't be a bad idea.

So we have joker pointing at Osseric as bowel movement. I don't see how Joker could have any idea who bowel movement is, so possibly A) Joker really does think that Oss is bowel movement and would like to see him taken down a life. B--) (Sorry for dashes, trying to avoid a smiley appearing instead) The Joker thinks that Oss is one of the other cult leaders and wants to toss some heat on him. C) The joker is actually Oss, and put his own name in there to throw townsfolk off (or just as a joke). And finally D) Oss is just a random-ass name that the joker threw in.

Thoughts anyone? I'm physically exhausted after reading/posting this. Ill check back later.


The reason I bit so fast is flavor. The Joker knew Batman was Bruce Wayne in the game.


Perhaps The Joker needs to "unmask" Batman. He was always seeking to do so in many story lines. I'm guessing the 4 Cult leaders would like to know Batman's identity as soon as possible, thus the basis for what we will see them attempt to do with these broadcasts. And at night they will recruit. I wish I had participated more before my name was mentioned like this, because maybe something I said or a direction I took might reveal something useful. As is, all my posts until I returned a bit ago were all made within the first two hours of the game starting, and we had no real substance what-so-ever. So this makes me think it's some random attempt at some sort of revealing process. We're cattle to them. All I can hope and suggest is that we do not make their game plan easier by ripping into each other like usual while leaving only a few good players left to handle the work load. Quit making a select few people do the job. This does not seem to me to be a game for subtlety, nor a game for layers and layers of mislead unless you are not part of the town. I'd be looking for players with aggression(with perhaps some exception given the nature of the informaton being acted on). The chances are highest that we lynch town, so I can't see how town would willingly remove a player from their faction when it seems to be so heavily needed without solid reason Just one less town is a large blow. So I suggest a higher level of Day 1 caution than normal by a factor 9000. We can agree to this before someone is thrown under the bus so it will not look like it is an attempt to symp that target. Proceed with caution, team. I'm chosing an early stance on this point, good or bad.


Why not vote for night why your at it?? You're suggesting a no lynch scenario which is WCS for town.


My biggest concern is actually how these broadcasts are choosing targets. If you were in my seat, you'd wonder the same. I have zero defense for why The Joker picked me. It makes me at least also consider the possibility that Penguin used the word 'mayor' to cast suspicion on Meanas. I'll even go as far as to say that if there is not some better information revealed soon, I'll gladly take a death for the team. I mean I've seen plenty of first day lynches based on almost nothing, but that 'nothing' usually stems from something the target said themselves.Not the case with me, for my death would be contributed to the whims of random chance. I can live with that. As it stands at least I can serve the purpose of showing The Joker to be liar with my death/reveal, and dent his credibility, and at the same time hopefully casting some suspicion your way. Because I still can't see out of my 5 or so posts how I would draw The Joker's attention, unless it has something to do with Eloth, which even I highly doubt at this point.

View PostEmurlahn, on 05 June 2012 - 03:20 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 05 June 2012 - 01:30 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 04 June 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

Should we make everyone say Osseric is Batman?


Osseric is Batman

I've almost caught up, but I didn't catch the part where what I said or did made me Batman, unless it was something to do with my very brief look at korv's criminal slip(or honest mistake) or Eloth. Back to reading.



I fail to believe you here. Everyone is talking about The Joker's broadcast and your implication in it and the post above yours also mentions it.



What do you not believe? That I can't find out of my 7 or 8 posts the place where I draw The Joker's attention? Please point it out for me. I'm actually quite curious. My thoughts so far are that the Cult Leaders are sowing deception, and you seem to be the only person assisting that so far. Go further with your reasoning. Follow through with a vote for me. You could possibly achieve both our deaths. I'll go down if you hold my hand on the way.It should be a fair trade in the scope of things.



Can you please not be so fatalistic? There aren't THAT many people out to vote you, and we really would rather not lose a townie on day one (despite the track record...) in a game where every townie counts and we have a 5/22 chance of hitting scum in this! If anything, your "willingness" to take one for the team is suspicious as it is obviously meant to make us think you're innocent and self-sacrificing. *sigh*


Yes, it could only mean that. Emurlahn is just fishing for reaction. Can't I give one?

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:12 AM

Now that about half the thread has said "time for bed", I'm caught up.

Remove vote

Early shennanigans aside.

The only thing that stands out to me as possibly solid information is that Atrahal is not Poison Ivy, since he ridiculed the count in the message right away. Other than that, I haven't a clue. I'm reluctant to trust any sort of meta regarding when messages come out and who was on at the time - too many variables and possibilities for gross error.


As for Batman/BM/Bowel movement, I think he's priority one. Think about it, we get him ONCE, unless he's a goddam faceless man* we would now know who he is and we can keep killing the bastard at our whim.

I can see some interesting scenarios where we find batman that will really heat the faction game up - you could have members of cults who have lost members (thus believing they can't reach plurality) refusing to vote for him etc.,


*fearmonger!!!

edited to add the footnote

This post has been edited by Sheltatha Lore: 05 June 2012 - 04:13 AM


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Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:19 AM

View PostGalain, on 05 June 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

OK, PS, just to make sure everyone has this clear:



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Batman rules:
BAtman is a predator. he is very hard to kill and has numeorus powers to help him take down the recruiters.
if he is lynched, the executives may meddle and use "Dramatic Twist" to prolong the life of the show. Batman can designate a sucessor, Big-Ben/Gozer style. anyone who is not a recruiter may be a successor.
Once the Batman is killed 4 times, the ratings will plummet and show will be cancelled. The faction with the most members at the time of his death will be declared the winners.
NOTE: if Batman is killed during the night, the numbers will be based on next morning's numbers. IF he dies during the day, the numbers will be based on end-of day.


Now, this reads to me, Batman only gets the "Dramatic Twist" if he is LYNCHED. At which point he can designate a successor.

Is this an accurate reading? As in, if he is attacked at night, he has some other means of defense, like BPs, but if he is lynched - specifically - THEN he can designate a successor, up to four times? What's the correct layout on that? (Because the most basic reading is that it doens't matter whether he's killed day or night he gets to select a successor, but I'm just curious because I'm a pedantic bear and it doesn't read like that to me, y'know?)




@SL: The above are athe mechanics. He won't hop every night, but he'll eventually hop (/chooser his successor which I guess means the player won't have to try to imitate another one, which makes it harder to catch). How many times is I guess to be decided. He has to be killed 4 times, so how that plays into how many times he can hop I'm unsure.

I'm to bed.

Be back on tomorrow hopefully before lynch to vote.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:28 AM

wow, today really got away from me. and now there is 10 pages. I will have time to catch up tomorrow and with 17 hrs to lynch that should put me as being caught up right around lynch time. So, unless you lynch early, I will be on for lynch.

with that, I am off to bed.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 06:33 AM

Ahhh, the big ben jump. Well, that changes things. I actually remember reading that rule before I first started posting on thread, but for some reason that detail slipped my mind as I was making my post (above).

At least it is only a lynch which triggers that (unless I'm reading it wrong).

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:07 AM

Well, long day. Everyone removed all their votes for some reason. I will try to find out why in the morning.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:23 AM

View PostGalain, on 05 June 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

Also, why is everyone ignoring my post about the fact that the OP only states there are four, confirmed, cultists? :tongue:"


Reading as I catch up, expect more comments later.
For one, there is the sign up, where Ment mentions a 3 cult game for 16 players, and a 4 cult as a possibility. Absolute minimum = 16, = 1 batman, 3 cult leaders, 12 town (aka, town to cult relation = 1:4). That's already quite stretching it, with the 22 we have now we are at 1 BM, 4 cult-leaders, 17 town (aka 4.25 townies per cult leader). Those numbers are in line with the absolute minimum. To suspect extra hidden cults is inviting balance disaster.
See also below.

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I've done my best to make town fun to play on its own sans recruiting. the absolute minimum number I'm looking for is 16. if there's a lot of interest, it's easy to go as far as 24+. Your mods will be Lizra and myself. Game will run on 32 h days, 4 h nights. short of some thematic powers, and one or two experimental mechanics, it should be a fairly regular game. I'll say TMDI9+ to be on the safe side.



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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:40 AM

View PostMeanas, on 05 June 2012 - 02:13 AM, said:

I would point to the fact that lynching me does little for anyone. If I am a cult leader, I have to be the stupidest one in the game. Personally, it's fun baiting hot heads and dragging out dragonsecks, esp on day one. But if you want serious, here is some more (glasses pushed back up the nose, pipe adjusted, hearth still burning, check).

Cult has plurality in three days (WCS or BCS, pick your poison). So I ask, what the fuck can town do about it? Do we have a mayor who can convince the convicts to return to their normal thug status minus the Criminal Mastermind leader? once recurited, town is dead and the cultist arises.

My perspective, as a townie along for the ride, is embrace it. you will most likely be cult, or lose cruelly as one of the few townie specimens. thus, I'm not laying down an attack plan for any cult leader whatsoever until I actually have a team of sorts (not that an aptly placed recruitment wouldn't switch my allegences). This is a fluid game peeps!!! a game of chance and whim. BM is the only constant, and therefor must die. if you think you can find BM 4 times before cult has plurality, you are crazier than I seem to sound (that works right?)

argue that motherfuckers

Hahahahaaha, argue that?
Ok, here we go.

You slip (as I earlier pointed out) by writing a WCS for town and calling it BCS which it is for recruiters only. Throughout the day, you try and appear helpful by making lists that point in several directions based on very little and look supremely symp-like in nature. You basically have me wondering if you made a pyramid of your fingers and are lisping at the screen "yess, diversion, muhahaha" which is only emphasized by your little RP thingies of pushing back glasses, et cetera.
Now you go back to one of the oldest tricks in the book (Bent used them all the time) by saying "I can't be a recruiter, I would be the worst recruiter ever! So even if I am a recruiter, pweeeze, pweeeeeeeze let me live, I'm mostly harmless!" That is no defense, that's whining. The evil you know is no term in mafia. The evil you know is dead.

Secondly, your own opinion of having to be recruited is something Ment specifically tried to fight. Read below.
http://forum.malazan...ndpost&p=964740

So in fact, what you are saying, is you are playing against your own faction unless you are already a member of a cult faction, in which case, you make a lynch that no-one will object to.
If you are a member of a non-town faction, town and 4/5 (counting Batman as a non-townie too) won't object. The 1/5 that does, is you.
If you are town, well, you are basically screwing over your own side regardless of anything the mod said so far, so good riddance. The fact that you take pride in your stance and think it is unrefutable is unfortunate and is only reinforcing my opinion that we're better off without you.

Is that enough argument to deflate your balloon, change your tune?

Vote Meanas

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:44 AM

View PostMeanas, on 05 June 2012 - 02:15 AM, said:

oh, and rotfl about me slipping up. I say BCS because I expect to be on some cult team at some point (and if not, I will definitely lose in the anonymity of an unwanted thug... :tongue: )

You should have added that explanation then and there. Now it sounds like you're grasping for explanations. Which, imho, you are.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:50 AM

View PostKorbas, on 05 June 2012 - 02:34 AM, said:

View PostGalain, on 05 June 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

The four cults will be at best balanced - because they do NOT WIN AS ONE FACTION. So while town will (theoretically, no cult deaths) be drastically reduced, no cult will have won by day 3 if Batman dies.


Wow. I completely overlooked this. I was thinking of the cult as a single faction.


/facepalm.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:54 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 02:56 AM, said:

View PostGalain, on 05 June 2012 - 02:54 AM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 05 June 2012 - 02:47 AM, said:

I doubt that meanas is anything other then a towny. Cult like scum don't want to make waves like that. I have no idea how much longer is left in the day. But I need to go to bed. Later



Then he should be modkilled. As he hasn't been, I can only assume he is not town. OR Ment is being VERY LENIENT considering this issues was ALREADY BROUGHT UP ONCE SO MEANAS HAS NO EXCUSE. YOU LISTENING, MENT?!?! :tongue:


yes I am. I dislike modkilss, and generally try to avoid them bar role PM reveals.

I'll consult with Lizra once she gets on.

in the meantime, heave a vote count

It is Day 1. 17 hours and 4 minutes left

22 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Sheptatha Lore, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

2 votes for Omtose (Sheltatha Lore, Karosis)
1 vote for Fener ( Rashan)
1 vote for Eloth (Galain)
1 vote for Spite (Emurlahn)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)
5 votes for Meanas (Spite, Korbas, Omtose, Galain, Rashan)

-ment

Well, that kind of invalidates all the energy I put in piling pressure on Meanas. The risk of doing a dkt, I suppose. The fact remains however that their defense is no defense, but just whining and grasping for straws. Usually, that's a case of where there is smoke, there is fire. Even if they're town, it is a good object lesson in how to put together a defense and how to play.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:59 AM

View PostOmtose, on 05 June 2012 - 03:24 AM, said:

View PostGalain, on 05 June 2012 - 03:00 AM, said:

Righteo then. Glad that's sorted.


Though the fact that you're discussing it means he's town. XD



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Yep.
I thought I might have had something with the way he was acting, and no one else said "mayor" not even PS.
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Actually, Galain brought up the idea of a town-sided (de-)recruiter, Meanas put a label to it.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:17 AM

And as someone else said on this page, the Joker also mentioned a mayor. Now, there can be an interesting correlation there... did Meanas named the de-recruiter a mayor by accident or random choice, did he name a mayor because he read in the Penguin message and it stuck (by accident or deliberately), or did he post the Penguin message and then later capitulated on it? Am I correct in assuming that the Penguin post was before Meanas mentioned a mayor? Because that would eliminate the chance that the Penguin is digging Meanas an extra comfy snug deep grave through his message.

Despite my own fixation on the whole Meanas thing (he just rubs me the wrong way, seems extremely scummy and in addition to that there are plenty of quotes that support that feelingno matter whether or not there will be a modkill), I am quite satisfied so far with day 1.
The Osseric = BM/Joker thing can be wifom, but I bet it will be tested at some point, probably if we fail to lynch a CL/BM in the first 2-3 days, which is going to make Osseric a quite valuable asset for further analysis - if he's a dead man walking, cult may not want to touch him, BM won't jump into him and we will know who or what he was and how to read his statements.
That aside, we have several other statements, a good few quote posts, some active posting, little spam, and generally decent activity.

And now I'm out for a while.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 10:19 AM

View PostEloth, on 05 June 2012 - 09:17 AM, said:

And as someone else said on this page, the Joker also mentioned a mayor. Now, there can be an interesting correlation there... did Meanas named the de-recruiter a mayor by accident or random choice, did he name a mayor because he read in the Penguin message and it stuck (by accident or deliberately), or did he post the Penguin message and then later capitulated on it? Am I correct in assuming that the Penguin post was before Meanas mentioned a mayor? Because that would eliminate the chance that the Penguin is digging Meanas an extra comfy snug deep grave through his message.

Despite my own fixation on the whole Meanas thing (he just rubs me the wrong way, seems extremely scummy and in addition to that there are plenty of quotes that support that feelingno matter whether or not there will be a modkill), I am quite satisfied so far with day 1.
The Osseric = BM/Joker thing can be wifom, but I bet it will be tested at some point, probably if we fail to lynch a CL/BM in the first 2-3 days, which is going to make Osseric a quite valuable asset for further analysis - if he's a dead man walking, cult may not want to touch him, BM won't jump into him and we will know who or what he was and how to read his statements.
That aside, we have several other statements, a good few quote posts, some active posting, little spam, and generally decent activity.

And now I'm out for a while.


Joker = Penguin. I did it correct in all the other sentences.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 10:22 AM

Morning! What'd I miss?

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